First 50 point game goes to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Best player in the world

Ben mathurin had 17 foul shots in the same game and he's a nobody. He doesn't get near the touches that Shai does.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15039359]yeah but just because he nets x amount of points from free throws, doesn't reflect the true damage that having the benefit of the whistle has on his game. i.e he would not be as inclined to drive in or make a risky offensive play if he knew the whistle would be fair and not biased towards him. in other words, the impact of the whistle is not easily determined based on his FTA/FTs made. it also gives false confidence that can translate into defensive plays. the measure of how beneficial that whistle is cannot be quantified. not to mention the momentum changing whistles at key moments during a close game.[/QUOTE]

Sure but that's true of most scorers. Last season he averaged 8.8 free throw attempts per game. That's not outrageously high. By comparison Doncic averaged 7.9.

It's weird how much SGA triggers people when he's not even close to the most egregious flopper or foul baiter. Not even top ten. He's just one of the craftiest players in the league as far as footwork, feinting, changes of pace, unpredictability in his movements, etc. As a result, his defenders foul him a lot.

[QUOTE=Full Court;15039384]It's weird how much SGA triggers people when he's not even close to the most egregious flopper or foul baiter. [B][I][U][SIZE=5]Not even top ten.[/SIZE][/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE]

Delete your account.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039217]He took 26 free throw attempts you stupid bitch. You'd have to be as dishonest as SGA to suggest he doesn't routinely play for the foul instead of attempting to make a basket.[/QUOTE]

Watch the games, not the stat sheet, moron. The league has seen worse.

I hate when Harden does it, and I hate when SGA does it. It’s just not entertaining.

[QUOTE=Chick Stern;15039393]I hate when Harden does it, and I hate when SGA does it. It’s just not entertaining.[/QUOTE]
Luka also does it.

[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld;15039394]Luka also does it.[/QUOTE]

the difference is SGA anchors his offense around foul bating, much like Harden did and people criticized Harden at the time because he was so egregious with it.

Luka doesn't score with the intention of going to the free throw line.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039388]Delete your account.[/QUOTE]

This is one of those morons who get triggered by SGA that I was talking about. :lol

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15039363]Sure but that's true of most scorers. Last season he averaged 8.8 free throw attempts per game. That's not outrageously high. By comparison Doncic averaged 7.9.[/QUOTE]

And Doncic had a much higher Free Throw Rate on the Lakers than SGA did for last year, smaller sample size but he was also out of shape and sharing the offense with Lebron and Reaves.

Lebron in his prime years also had a similar FTr, actually higher in most of his prime/peak years than SGA did last year. Lebron's Playoff FTr career average is higher than SGA's Regular Season FTr was last year.

SGA isn't anywhere near as bad as prime/peak Embiid or Harden when it comes to foul baiting, he just does it very efficiently so people get pissed about it.

The SGA foul- baiting is WAY overblown. He consistently puts pressure on defenses and takes the ball to the rim.

What he does is not even in the same league as Harden, who often times completely tailored his game and skillset on drawing fouls without attempting to score. SGA is trying to score, he’s just crafty and gets people out of position. That KD foul at the end of the first game is a good example. If he doesn’t bite on that series of moves then SGA just pulls up and takes an 18 footer that he makes more often than not. Harden didn’t have that in his bag.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15039360]Ben mathurin had 17 foul shots in the same game and he's a nobody. He doesn't get near the touches that Shai does.[/QUOTE]

Mathurin also had a higher FTR than SGA in the playoffs last year, and all he does is run into people.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15039411]The SGA foul- baiting is WAY overblown. He consistently puts pressure on defenses and takes the ball to the rim.

[B]What he does is not even in the same league as Harden, who often times completely tailored his game and skillset on drawing fouls without attempting to score.[/B] SGA is trying to score, he’s just crafty and gets people out of position. That KD foul at the end of the first game is a good example. If he doesn’t bite on that series of moves then [B]SGA just pulls up and takes an 18 footer that he makes more often than not. Harden didn’t have that in his bag[/B].[/QUOTE]

This this this, thank you!

FYI folks, Kobe had 5 seasons with higher free throw rates than SGA had last year.

The amount of retards in this thread that think that SGA doesn't foul bait is alarming. How does society even function with these people? Holy shit.

I'm not talking about the occasional flop. Unfortunately pretty much every player does that.

I'm talking about the fact that it is a quintessential part of his game.

I'm talking about the fact that he will actively hunt a foul and decide for the ref rather than try to make a difficult play and let the ref decide.

He is a dishonest player and so are the people in this thread that claim he isn't or they're retarded. No in between.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039417]The amount of retards in this thread that think that SGA doesn't foul bait is alarming. How does society even function with these people? Holy shit.

I'm not talking about the occasional flop. Unfortunately pretty much every player does that.

I'm talking about the fact that it is a quintessential part of his game.

I'm talking about the fact that he will actively hunt a foul and decide for the ref rather than try to make a difficult play and let the ref decide.

He is a dishonest player and so are the people in this thread that claim he isn't or they're retarded. No in between.[/QUOTE]



You just don't know how to read. Please quote anyone who said he doesn't foul bait. You cant.

We just think people focusing on his foul grifting are exaggerating. He isnt as bad as other some other guys.