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[QUOTE=Resurrection]Out of the players who played major minutes, Dwight Howard was the least impressive and IMO was exposed for being grossly overrated. Had Bynum been healthy, he would have been a much better fit than Howard. No question about it.[/QUOTE]
You got any other hobbies apart from jacking off to your Lakers? And hating Lebron, of course?
Most of the people in this thread are [I]f[/I]ucking retarded. Someone blew a defensive assignment and he was able to get past Howard. Howard could have easily let him dunk it and not looked bad but instead he tried to block it and you're faulting him for that? Get the [I]f[/I]uck out of here.
While a nice dunk, it isn't ON Dwight Howard. I'd need to see the full play to see what happened, but it looks like Howard got caught in a mismatch and got beat off the dribble.
rudy ain't even got a fraction of prime ginobili's athleticism, yet he punked on dwight like that.
i don't care if dwight was late. he should had gotten that swat but fool looked like yao ming in that sequence.
i dont see how this is a dunk on when DH was coming from behind and had a step:rolleyes:
but what ever floats your boats...:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Vendetta]Most of the people in this thread are [I]f[/I]ucking retarded. Someone blew a defensive assignment and he was able to get past Howard. Howard could have easily let him dunk it and not looked bad but instead he tried to block it and you're faulting him for that? Get the [I]f[/I]uck out of here.[/QUOTE]
true. give all the credit to rudy, but don't mock on howard just for doing the effort to block it, it's so childish. and I'm from spain and I don't even like howard.
The responses in this thread lead me to call this play the most over-rated thing of the entire Olympics.
Rudy Fernandez has a full step and a half on Dwight Howard. Howard jumped in hopes that Fernandez would either go for a layup or **** it back before slamming it. Fernandez did neither leaving Howard with absolutely no chance at making a play.
Second point, Fernandez is NOT guaranteed to be a good NBA player. Has the tools needed to be quality but it is not a lock to happen.
That play just happened on the replay. They gave him a ludicrous and one. Kobe overplayed it and laid Howard out to dry.
Does Kobe know how to play Defense?
Rudy blew by him almost every single time.
If someone actually D'ed up Rudy better...game wouldn't have been close.
Should have put Wade on Rudy.
[SIZE="5"]STF^ Centers and PF get dunked on all the time.Stop acting like this is the first time a center got dunked on.Hakeem Got dunked on shaq got dunked on.Stop act like retards[/SIZE]
[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]Dwight Howard is overrated.[/QUOTE]
You say that just because he got dunked on? He's an amazing inside defender, his rebounding and blocking numbers are top of the NBA, he has mad hops for a 7 footer and he's probably the strongest player in the world...
Great dunk, but I still find Rudy's dribble to be really awkward. It doesn't seem right.
[QUOTE=wang4three]Great dunk, but I still find Rudy's dribble to be really awkward. It doesn't seem right.[/QUOTE]
It's not just you homie. Honestly I can't think of a single instance of him beating a defender clean off a skilled offensive move and not a defensive error.
[QUOTE=wang4three]Great dunk, but I still find Rudy's dribble to be really awkward. It doesn't seem right.[/QUOTE]
it doesnt seem right because he broke Kobe n co ankles? :roll:
i hope ur satisfied with Ricky Rubio's ankle breakers thou :applause:
[quote=Da KO King]The responses in this thread lead me to call this play the most over-rated thing of the entire Olympics.
Rudy Fernandez has a full step and a half on Dwight Howard. Howard jumped in hopes that Fernandez would either go for a layup or **** it back before slamming it. Fernandez did neither leaving Howard with absolutely no chance at making a play.
Second point, Fernandez is NOT guaranteed to be a good NBA player. Has the tools needed to be quality but it is not a lock to happen.[/quote]
/agreed
This was in no way Howards fault if anything this thread should be named Rudy walking past Kobe gif (though the dunk seemed impressive). And if Rudy was a lock to be a good player why would have he had fallen to the 2nd round. Yes NBA teams make mistakes and let players fall, but there are very few players from the Second round who make a significent impact (NBA scouts are very impressive). Every year a secound round player does something to impress us we then overate him and when he plays poorly people think he fails when in reality he was doomed to play that way anyways.
[QUOTE=anchoa]true. give all the credit to rudy, but don't mock on howard just for doing the effort to block it, it's so childish. and I'm from spain and I don't even like howard.[/QUOTE]
I have a lot of problems with Howard's total game, but this was just a great and unexpected play by Fernandez- and people are foolish for looking down at Howard for being part of this play. The big men on my team- Randolph and Curry would have been standing by- feet on the floor- admiring the shot.
[B]Actually reminds me of Starks dunk on Horace Grant and Jordan in the 1993 playoffs:[/B]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMXuEGs_3kA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMXuEGs_3kA[/URL]
What makes both dunks special is[I] when [/I]they took place, not necessarily the dunk itself.
Fernandez now has his place in Olympic History, but I am sure he would give up this shot for Gold.
man that was a sick dunk! glad i got to see it live! :D
[QUOTE=Godfather]/agreed
This was in no way Howards fault if anything this thread should be named Rudy walking past Kobe gif (though the dunk seemed impressive). And if Rudy was a lock to be a good player why would have he had fallen to the 2nd round. Yes NBA teams make mistakes and let players fall, but there are very few players from the Second round who make a significent impact (NBA scouts are very impressive). Every year a secound round player does something to impress us we then overate him and when he plays poorly people think he fails when in reality he was doomed to play that way anyways.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I think the Rudy Fernandez love has to do with the "it boy" status of Kevin Pritchard. Right now people think of him as an infallible executive so for Fernandez not to suck means "the genius in Portland" found a gem again.
In reality, Fernandez is a good foreign player who has the athleticism to play in the NBA. We will see if his game can stand up to the league.
[quote=Da KO King]Honestly I think the Rudy Fernandez love has to do with the "it boy" status of Kevin Pritchard. Right now people think of him as an infallible executive so for Fernandez not to suck means "the genius in Portland" found a gem again.
In reality, Fernandez is a good foreign player who has the athleticism to play in the NBA. We will see if his game can stand up to the league.[/quote]
The pick being made by kevin pritchard has nothing to do with anything. It's the fact that Rudy was the best player in Europe by far and has received just about every accolade he can get.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]It's not just you homie. Honestly I can't think of a single instance of him beating a defender clean off a skilled offensive move and not a defensive error.[/QUOTE]
Did you actually watch the game this morning?? He was using behind the back moves like our guys use crossover dribbles.
There was a lot to criticize about his game in the finals, but ball handling is not one of them.
So when someone you don't like does something good, it is not through any kind of skill on his part, but because the other guy made a mistake.
Interesting...you ever think that Rubio just [I]might[/I] have the ability to cause people to make mistakes?
[QUOTE=kumquat]The pick being made by kevin pritchard has nothing to do with anything. It's the fact that Rudy was the best player in Europe by far and has received just about every accolade he can get.[/QUOTE]
:lol at the "best player in europe" comment.
Rudy Fernandez was a taken #24 overall by Phoenix and then traded to Portland in 2007. Not a peep was heard about Fernandez until this past draft when everyone hopped on Pritchard's sack because he "tricked" the league into "allowing" Jerryd Bayless to fall into his lap. After that people began talking about Fernandez as though he was going to be a NBA all star.
EDIT: apparently the rolleyes icon doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Godfather]/agreed
This was in no way Howards fault if anything this thread should be named Rudy walking past Kobe gif (though the dunk seemed impressive). [B]And if Rudy was a lock to be a good player why would have he had fallen to the 2nd round.[/B] Yes NBA teams make mistakes and let players fall, but there are very few players from the Second round who make a significent impact (NBA scouts are very impressive). Every year a secound round player does something to impress us we then overate him and when he plays poorly people think he fails when in reality he was doomed to play that way anyways.[/QUOTE]
He was 24th pick and that ain't second round...
[quote=jamal99]He was 24th pick and that ain't second round...[/quote]
You are right my mistake :banghead:
[QUOTE=Paladin55]Did you actually watch the game this morning?? He was using behind the back moves like our guys use crossover dribbles.
There was a lot to criticize about his game in the finals, but ball handling is not one of them.
So when someone you don't like does something good, it is not through any kind of skill on his part, but because the other guy made a mistake.
Interesting...you ever think that [B]Rubio[/B] just [I]might[/I] have the ability to cause people to make mistakes?[/QUOTE]
Rubio???
Making a defender make a mistake through a move is not a mistake on the defender's part. It's getting beat. A defensive error are things like overplays on screens, guarding to force to help when there is no help, etc.
Also because a guy uses a behind the back move does not mean his ball handling skill isn't limited.
Dwight sucks because Rudy dunked while he was ahead of him? Dwight would of blocked the **** out of that ball if Rudy diddnt push Dwights arm out before he dunked.
There was no way in hell Rudy could of dunked that if Dwight was infront of him.
nice clear out....
As has already been mentioned Rudy was a first round pick.Rudy also fell to the 24th because his buyout clause the first year was quite high and he was earning very good money in Europe(he is taking a pay cut to come over this year).If it weren't for the buyout and the good money he was already getting paid he would have been a lottery pick and likely a high lottery pick at that
I don't know where this "no one started talking about Fernandez until this year's draft" stuff is coming from, but a lot of Blazer fans have been talking about and excited about him since we traded $$$ to the Suns for him. :confusedshrug:
Lot of us were hoping that he'd be on last year's squad.
This is the second European talent we've 'bought' from the Suns - the other being Sergio Rodriguez - ironically, both are Spaniards. Sergio has had his ups and downs - but he's our 3rd point guard.
I think most Blazers fans are interested in their potential and to them being good 'fits' for our team as opposed to thinking that they're going to come in and lead us to a championship...........
[QUOTE=blazerjimmy]I don't know where this "no one started talking about Fernandez until this year's draft" stuff is coming from, but a lot of Blazer fans...[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the non-Blazer fan public and how Fernandez went from being a good foreign talent to getting hype to the point that people think he'll come to the NBA and move Brandon Roy from his SG into the PG just so Fernandez can get starting minutes.
[quote=Kobe24]Fact.[/quote]
LMAO. You're an idiot and should be "banned for that comment"
Sounds like everyone is overloading the Rudy bandwagon.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Rubio???
Making a defender make a mistake through a move is not a mistake on the defender's part. It's getting beat. A defensive error are things like overplays on screens, guarding to force to help when there is no help, etc.
Also because a guy uses a behind the back move does not mean his ball handling skill isn't limited.[/QUOTE]
My mistake- I blanked out- for some reason I saw Rudy and thought Rubio.:banghead:
And your comment about Fernandez as a ball handler has some merit.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Honestly I think the Rudy Fernandez love has to do with the "it boy" status of Kevin Pritchard. Right now people think of him as an infallible executive so for Fernandez not to suck means "the genius in Portland" found a gem again.
In reality, Fernandez is a good foreign player who has the athleticism to play in the NBA. We will see if his game can stand up to the league.[/QUOTE]
Dude, what the fu[i]c[/i]k is your problem. Even when a thread is not about the Blazers, you continually make it about how overrated you think the Blazers are.
Don't use your irrational hatred for the Blazers as a way to take away from Rudy's talent/accomplishment. He's a damn fine player no matter where he's playing.
[quote=JordanL]Dude, what the fu[I]c[/I]k is your problem. Even when a thread is not about the Blazers, you continually make it about how overrated you think the Blazers are.
Don't use your irrational hatred for the Blazers as a way to take away from Rudy's talent/accomplishment. He's a damn fine player no matter where he's playing.[/quote]
Don't get angry over a valid point made. He is rationally showing the overrated nature of international players in their entirety and how they always have trouble transitioning to the NBA.
Rudy Fernanadez is the biggest actor. He just runs directly into people try to draw the foul and then falls. The Best Dunk was Wang ZHi ZHi on Lebron or Dwight
[QUOTE=Da KO King]I was referring to the non-Blazer fan public and how Fernandez went from being a good foreign talent to getting hype to the point that people think he'll come to the NBA and move Brandon Roy from his SG into the PG just so Fernandez can get starting minutes.[/QUOTE]
Oh - gotcha...I've heard some talk about Roy possibly playing minutes at PG, but it was more in reference to getting Bayless more touches/time at SG - I can't imagine Nate moving Roy there to give a starting position to a guy who hasn't even played with any of his Blazer teammates......
Honestly, when I saw the dunk I got really excited and then I kind of groaned, thinking of how much potential for one dunk to get totally over blown in the media.........and on here..........
[QUOTE=JordanL]Dude, what the fu[i]c[/i]k is your problem. Even when a thread is not about the Blazers, you continually make it about how overrated you think the Blazers are.
Don't use your irrational hatred for the Blazers as a way to take away from Rudy's talent/accomplishment. He's a damn fine player no matter where he's playing.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: You're either insane or just waking up from a hang over because no place have I bad mouthed the Blazers. Only time I called the Blazers over-rated was when people start touting them as "next" because of a bunch of guys [I](Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez, and Jerryd Bayless)[/I] who NEVER stepped foot on a NBA court. All I've done in this thread is speak on the brewing love affair with Fernandez.
Seriously, un-bunch you panties and actually read what was typed. No place on here have I been "anti-Blazer".
Kobe set him up though. That was sick dunk.
Funny how some guys go off like fricking fireworks if people somehow [I]dare[/I] to criticise their heroes, be it individual players or (more uncommon) teams.
Hey folks, your mancrushes are grown up adults. They could defend themselves if they gave a rat's ass about what other people say about them. They don't need underage kids stepping up for them on internet boards.
And most of all... they wouldn't ever lift a finger to aid you in any way whatsoever. Heck, they probably wouldn't even stop to give you the time of day. So get your collective heads out of your ass and engage in grown-up conversation instead of getting out your e-balls every time you think someone disrespects the guy of your dreams.
[QUOTE=stewen12]Rudy Fernanadez is the biggest actor. He just runs directly into people try to draw the foul and then falls. The Best Dunk was Wang ZHi ZHi on Lebron or Dwight[/QUOTE]
Can you give me a link to this?
[QUOTE=fiad06]Dwight sucks because Rudy dunked while he was ahead of him? Dwight would of blocked the **** out of that ball if Rudy diddnt push Dwights arm out before he dunked.
There was no way in hell Rudy could of dunked that if Dwight was infront of him.[/QUOTE]
Ahh... there is no way he would even try to dunk over Howard if Howard had position- he is probably too intelligent to make a direct frontal attack on a superior foe with a height advantage. (Check out [I]The Art of War[/I], by Sun Tzu)
There is no shame in what happened to Howard on that play- you are the guys who make the in "your face" "posterized" dunks more important than they are, and see them as some kind of absolute determiner for deciding who the best players are.
Fernandez is going to be a nice complimentary player on a team that [I]could[/I] be great at some point. He rose to the occasion in a big game on a world stage, and made the most spectacular shot in the Olympics this year. Doesn't mean he will be a superstar, but you have to give the guy some credit for coming up big when it counted.