Where are the Hornets gonna move to? Seattle or Vegas?

[QUOTE=Showtime]WTF does compensation have to do with staying in NO?


You are a dumbass. How the hell do they "have a place to live" IF EVERYTHING THEY HAD IN NO WAS WIPED OUT? Just because they own some land doesn't mean they have to build a home again on it. Some people lost EVERYTHING. You saying they are going back "home" is moronic because there are people who had NOTHING to go back to, and therefore no reason to rebuild in NO.[/QUOTE]

They do not give you compensation unless you are going to live in their state, cuz compensation is hardly ever through straight cash. You either get a new house there (that's if you are lucky as hell) or you get a FEMA trailer until enough federal funding comes. You obviously don't know how FEMA and the rest of the restoration corps work.

What about people who didn't lose EVERYTHING but had parts of their properties damaged? do you think anyone would buy any of theirs for more than a hundred bucks? So how do they sell anything?

it's obvious that you don't understand why some people have no other choice.

[QUOTE=Showtime]WTF does compensation have to do with staying in NO?


You are a dumbass. How the hell do they "have a place to live" IF EVERYTHING THEY HAD IN NO WAS WIPED OUT? Just because they own some land doesn't mean they have to build a home again on it. Some people lost EVERYTHING. You saying they are going back "home" is moronic because there are people who had NOTHING to go back to, and therefore no reason to rebuild in NO.[/QUOTE]

This cannot be understood unless you've been there. The vast majority of people there are so poor that they literally could barely afford to be homeless in bigger, safer cities.

[QUOTE=JordanL]This cannot be understood unless you've been there. The vast majority of people there are so poor that they literally could barely afford to be homeless in bigger, safer cities.[/QUOTE]
Homeless in another city
Homeless back in NO, with a high chance of the same thing happening again every year.

Hmmmm tough choice.

[QUOTE=Showtime]Homeless in another city
Homeless back in NO, with a high chance of the same thing happening again every year.

Hmmmm tough choice.[/QUOTE]
after all i just posted you still don't get it. i'm done

[QUOTE=nosurrender]after all i just posted you still don't get it. i'm done[/QUOTE]
So, they get compensation if they return to NO, and the lucky ones get a new house, only to have their lives destroyed the following season. They repair their damaged homes, only to hope it's still standing next year. Apparently, you still don't get it.

Just because the supposed relief seems better in the short term, it doesn't matter if they remain in the same situation for it to happen all over again in a few months.

[QUOTE=Showtime]Homeless in another city
Homeless back in NO, with a high chance of the same thing happening again every year.

Hmmmm tough choice.[/QUOTE]

What an arrogant ass. Some people have to choose between eating and safety of property.

**** you and your pompous ego.

[QUOTE=JordanL]What an arrogant ass. Some people have to choose between eating and safety of property.

**** you and your pompous ego.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm an arrogant ass by making a simple point.

seatlle would be good just bring some winning back to that city after they had 2 put up with ray allens injured ass and rashard lewis aswell. they could use a little bit of chris paul 2 remind them of the days of the glove, and with such a good team like the hornets seattle will be pumping and prove to david stern that hes a ****ing moron.

[QUOTE=Vendetta]If you're truly fleeing for your life get the **** off the internet.[/QUOTE]


Im sorry that you dum sh**s didnt know that laptops were portable and some of us got out early because we learned from Katrina. I am supposed to crawl under the bed or something?? No sports, and sports talk are a great distraction. I come on ISH and see this bullsh**. I didnt get owned by an atheist. What atheist dont know when things are inappropriate to say?


As far as living in New Orleans goes, yes weve had our share of bad storms. Its dangerous living in the gulf coast during Hurricane season in general. But these are our homes that were talking about. Our lives, excuse me if its not that easy to just pick up and leave. Every part of the nation has certain weather problems that they will have to face. Whether it be hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, flooding, snowstorms etc .

[QUOTE=cookiemonster]Maybe the flying spaghetti monster will save new orleans with his noodley appendage =)[/QUOTE]

Being an atheist doesn't give you carte blanche for being an a[I]s[/I]shole.

I for one feel terrible for the poor people in New Orleans.

good luck new orleanians i hope your homes and fellow neighbors are ok and that the Hornets don't have to move

Here's to the people of New Orleans, on behalf of ISH, I wish you the best. My heart goes out to you.

[QUOTE=Manute for Ever!]Here's to the people of New Orleans, on behalf of ISH, I wish you the best. My heart goes out to you.[/QUOTE]

me too.

some people on this board really lack empathy.

[QUOTE=playtetris]me too.

some people on this board really lack empathy.[/QUOTE]

It truly is sickening. Kids (not all, just venting and generalising) are messed up and these people are going to be running things one day. It scares the sh!t out of me.

[QUOTE=Showtime]Go back home...to what? A flood damaged house that is STILL smack dab in the middle of hurricanes EVERY damn year? If I had all my property destroyed, I WOULDN'T GO BACK AND REBUILD IN SAME DAMN SPOT. I can either have nothing and start over in another location, or go back "home" with nothing and put myself in the same situation as before. Start over somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

You really don't get it. Hurricanes are unpredictable. If this happened "every year" New Orleans would have been abandoned long ago. Before Katrina no storm of that power had hit in New Orleans in centuries. I don't live in NO but down here in eastern NC our whole eastern 1/3 of our state was covered in water about 10 years ago because of Hurricane Floyd, causing us to miss 3-4 weeks of school and cause hundreds of thousands of people to lose their homes. So in situations like these where a once in a generation storm comes to an area you propose to just pack everything up and move to a different area? Grow the f[I]u[/I]ck up.

[QUOTE=Vendetta]If you're truly fleeing for your life get the **** off the internet.[/QUOTE]

Ignorant comment. The guy said he's fleeing for his life meaning that he's leaving New Orleans. I really don't see what that has to do with being online, the storm won't be here for a day at least he has time to get out of there.

[QUOTE=lovethetriangle]Close thread[/QUOTE]

Agreed. This thread is filled with young dumbf[I]u[/I]cks who think everything is a joke. People dying and/or losing everything is not funny.

[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]Agreed. This thread is filled with young dumbf[I]u[/I]cks who think everything is a joke. People dying and/or losing everything is not funny.[/QUOTE]

:applause: :cheers:

[QUOTE=NOHCP3]Thread should be closed. Horrible timing. People are fleeing for their lives(including me) and the first thing you can think of is where are our pro teams gonna go AFTER this storm wipes us off the face of the map? Get a life dude. How bout you pray for New Orleans before you plot its downfall[/QUOTE]

You're fleeing for your life yet you can think of is to post on ISH?

Showtime are you b/w the age of 14 and 18?

Simple yes or no question.

[QUOTE=Meticode]You're fleeing for your life yet you can think of is to post on ISH?[/QUOTE]
umm it's not like in the movies like Day After Tomorrow type "flee for your lives." Did you think maybe he might already be out.

[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]You really don't get it. Hurricanes are unpredictable. If this happened "every year" New Orleans would have been abandoned long ago.[/quote]

I said there's the same risk of it happening every year. NO is even worse because of the city's levy system and it being below sea level. And we have seen in the past few years how the number and severity of these storms are on the rise.

[quote]Before Katrina no storm of that power had hit in New Orleans in centuries. I don't live in NO but down here in eastern NC our whole eastern 1/3 of our state was covered in water about 10 years ago because of Hurricane Floyd, causing us to miss 3-4 weeks of school and cause hundreds of thousands of people to lose their homes. So in situations like these where a once in a generation storm comes to an area you propose to just pack everything up and move to a different area? Grow the f[I]u[/I]ck up.[/quote]

Once in a generation...and a level 3 storm is projected to effect NO soon. You said Floyd was a rare occurrence, yet the Carolinas get hit with storms every year, but not necessarily of that magnitude. The risk is the same every year, because there's always that chance another Floyd may come along. What you DO know is that the gulf and southeastern coast is prime real estate for hurricanes. I'm not saying pack and leave the southeast, I'm just saying that when somebody has lost everything, and they choose to go back to the same spot where there's a chance of that happening again every year, at some point I don't feel sorry for their situation.

I compared it to the situation of homes being destroyed in Tornado Alley. Some people have had to rebuild several times. At that point, I stop having empathy for the people in that situation.

[QUOTE=ElPigto]Showtime are you b/w the age of 14 and 18?

Simple yes or no question.[/QUOTE]
No. Mid 20's.

I hope New orleans will escape this one, that city and their people DO NOT DESERVE to go through something like this again. I hope the government has taken all the precautions to get people out safely even if it means leaving there things behind.

P.S some of you on here don't understand what the concept of "HOME" is to someone, many of those people would have lived in that city their entire life, possibly generations of family did before them so to simply say pack up your things and move is something easy to say but hard to do.

Showtime I really hope you never have to experience something like this as do anyone else on here.

[QUOTE=step_back]P.S some of you on here don't understand what the concept of "HOME" is to someone, many of those people would have lived in that city their entire life, possibly generations of family did before them so to simply say pack up your things and move is something easy to say but hard to do.

Showtime I really hope you never have to experience something like this as do anyone else on here.[/QUOTE]
I hope so too. I knew people from Houston that dealt with the flooding there. I live in an area where flooding is a real possibility, even though it's never happened yet. It's not something I wish on people. I think some here think I'm writing off everybody there, and that's not what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=TakitoEspanoza]Im athiest so who do you suggest I pray to? The Hurricane god? :hammerhead:

This is purely an NBA topic on where the Hornets will move too.[/QUOTE]

If it really is just a topic, which I doubt, then it is too soon to ask it.

Let's see what happens with the hurricane and the more important aspects of the impact before worrying about if/when the Hornets need to move.

sorry ive been in the dark for the past 3 days, when is the storm gonna hit?

Showtime has to be a teenager. There is simply no other explanation for his words.

No comment on the Team situation. Unqualified sympathy for the families that are about to have there lives ripped apart.

And for the couple ignorant pricks bagging on the residents of New Orleans that can't leave: I hope you never have to chose between feeding your children, or having them starve somewhere safer. It's an impossible situation, and one that deserve empathy, not smug second guessing from a position of privilege.

[QUOTE=Showtime]I hope so too. I knew people from Houston that dealt with the flooding there. I live in an area where flooding is a real possibility, even though it's never happened yet. It's not something I wish on people. I think some here think I'm writing off everybody there, and that's not what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]

problem is on forums it's difficult to tell what context it's in, you can't tell peoples tone or manner. people just have to be weary when typing and make the commitment to think rationally and coherently.

[QUOTE=miles berg]Showtime has to be a teenager. There is simply no other explanation for his words.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to disappoint. You can disagree with my viewpoint, and that's fine. But this isn't an issue to be "right" or "wrong" on, because I'm talking about the limits of my own personal empathy. I honestly don't think you even understand what my viewpoint is.

[QUOTE=Valliant13]No comment on the Team situation. Unqualified sympathy for the families that are about to have there lives ripped apart.

And for the couple ignorant pricks bagging on the residents of New Orleans that can't leave: I hope you never have to chose between feeding your children, or having them starve somewhere safer. It's an impossible situation, and one that deserve empathy, not smug second guessing from a position of privilege.[/QUOTE]
I haven't read anybody bagging on the people who are unable to leave. Who was doing that?

I get your viewpoint, Im not accusing you of being immature. I am just saying you must be a teenager, or rich, because most people can't just decide to pull up their roots and move. And the percentage of those people that can goes down significantly when you factor in that the likely only source of equity they have, their house, no longer has any value. Insurance companies rarely cover more than what is actually owed, if they even cover that. And with the amount of claims that come with a natural disaster, the time that a homeowner has to wait for their insurance to pay is going to be longer than an isolated incident (a fire or something along those lines) takes to pay.

Long story short, unless someone has family they can move in with that is away from New Orleans, the odds of that person being able to afford to move because of a natural disaster are very small.

[QUOTE=miles berg]I get your viewpoint, Im not accusing you of being immature. I am just saying you must be a teenager, or rich, because most people can't just decide to pull up their roots and move. And the percentage of those people that can goes down significantly when you factor in that the likely only source of equity they have, their house, no longer has any value. Insurance companies rarely cover more than what is actually owed, if they even cover that. And with the amount of claims that come with a natural disaster, the time that a homeowner has to wait for their insurance to pay is going to be longer than an isolated incident (a fire or something along those lines) takes to pay.

Long story short, unless someone has family they can move in with that is away from New Orleans, the odds of that person being able to afford to move because of a natural disaster are very small.[/QUOTE]
I understand your point about staying being the only short term option for some people. They have nothing. For those that lost everything, all they had left was their property, which suddenly was worthless. They had nothing. Some got checks, some got new homes, and a lot got stuck in FEMA trailers. I'm not bagging on anybody. All I'm saying is that those that lost everything but had options: they chose to stay. They chose, for the relative short term, to stick it out and try to rebuild. Now they are facing a level 3 hurricane once again.

So I will ask you: at what point is enough enough? If I lost my home, and my property value went down the tubes, and I had nothing left with no family or money, I would probably take the trailer and try to rebuild. But if I was in a situation where I was facing that prospect every year, and I had other options, I probably wouldn't.

There are people who DO have family, and there are people who do have options. Not everybody who lost everything was dirt poor. For the people who had nowhere else to go, I can understand them picking the trailer. For those that could relocate, and didn't, and are now facing the same prospect of losing everything yet again, I have little empathy.

the hornets are not going anywhere, and you really should not have made this thread because it is pointless when the sotrm is not even here yet nor do we know for sure its impact. IDIOT

Showtime must not have any friends, business contacts, family, love interests or nostalgic memories if he thinks its that easy to pack up and leave your home after ONE drastic occurence. The U.S. has been hit by terrorists and there's very real chances of this reoccuring in the future, will it be hard for you to have sympathy for people living in big cities potentially being targeted because they didn't learn from 9/11? You're a coward and an elitist *********

[QUOTE=macmac]Showtime must not have any friends, business contacts, family, love interests or nostalgic memories if he thinks its that easy to pack up and leave your home after ONE drastic occurence. The U.S. has been hit by terrorists and there's very real chances of this reoccuring in the future, will it be hard for you to have sympathy for people living in big cities potentially being targeted because they didn't learn from 9/11? You're a coward and an elitist *********[/QUOTE]
You obviously don't understand what my opinion is, and I can gather that by this post. So, since your comments don't have any relation to my opinion, it's really not even worth addressing. Your analogies aren't even accurate because they are too broad. You can call me a coward or elitist, but that just proves you don't comprehend what I'm saying. I wasn't talking about everybody. I was expressing my viewpoint of a select group of people in a very specific circumstance. I also wasn't criticizing or demeaning anybody. I simply said my empathy has limitations. Get over it.

[QUOTE=72-10]Maybe you should be mad at global warming instead.[/QUOTE]
Being mad about certain does not solve it.

I understand Showtime 100% and I see his view on things anybody that doesn't clearly is on a lower comprehension level or just wants to argue with him for the sake of having a "bad guy" in the thread.

he is saying that no one should live in NO because it's below sea level and there is a danger of hurricane perennially. that's a very strong and extreme opinion. it's too idealistic of a view

[QUOTE=nosurrender]he is saying that no one should live in NO because it's below sea level and there is a danger of hurricane perennially. [B]that's a very strong and extreme opinion. it's too idealistic of a view[/B][/QUOTE]

lol i don't know what "strong" means here.

and is it too idealistic? part of being alive is adapting to changing conditions. new orleans wasn't like this twenty years ago, but it is now...some thought should be given to the practicality of evacuating every year.

[QUOTE=SourGrapes]lol i don't know what "strong" means here.

and is it too idealistic? part of being alive is adapting to changing conditions. new orleans wasn't like this twenty years ago, but it is now...some thought should be given to the practicality of evacuating every year.[/QUOTE]

So let me ask you this. Places like Detroit, Newark, Gary, Flint, New Orleans also, etc etc are fairly well known for high crime rates, poverty, violence, and poor economies. Why are any of these cities inhabited at all? Shouldn't they all just get out of that situation? And adapt?

Is it that simple?

[QUOTE=nosurrender]he is saying that no one should live in NO because it's below sea level and there is a danger of hurricane perennially. that's a very strong and extreme opinion. it's too idealistic of a view[/QUOTE]
Incorrect. That wasn't what I was saying.