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[QUOTE=oh the horror]Dont the Knicks have enough gaurds?[/QUOTE]
Um....what? The Knicks have NO GUARDS past 2010 right now. As of right now, only Gallinari, Chandler, Curry, and Jeffries are signed passed this year. None of them guards.
I'm praying Knicks get top 3 pick, because they could use Rubio. It sounds like Curry will a great shooter in the league, but picking him 8 or 9 sounds like a stretch.....
Just his last name gives me the willys........shuddering...........
On the bright side, they should just give him Eddy's number so no one has to buy another jersey. In these economic times, its nice the Knicks are being efficient. Also, Lebron will be taking Jerome James' number as well.
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Itd be an interesting fit for D'antoni, but this likely a smokescreen especially with the lottery not even occuring yet
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This is just for the 2010 sweepstakes.
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If we choose Curry at #8 then I'll be pissed. If the Knicks trade down for him then I guess that would be OK. I still don't see how he's miles ahead of someone like J.J Redick. Redick's not bad but he shouldn't have been picked in the lottery.
With all that said this article is probably bullsh[COLOR="Black"]it[/COLOR] because of this:
[QUOTE=FireMcFailPlease]Itd be an interesting fit for D'antoni, but this likely a smokescreen especially with [B]the lottery not even occuring yet[/B][/QUOTE]
Teams have moved from #8 into the top three in the past. Giving a kid a promise before the lottery has even taken place would be asinine.
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[QUOTE=FireMcFailPlease]Itd be an interesting fit for D'antoni, but this likely a smokescreen especially with the lottery not even occuring yet[/QUOTE]
It could be their attempt to get someone else ahead to take him huh? I think Curry will be a totally solid NBA player. I dunno what his ceiling is but lesser players have been all stars. Either way, if you pick a solid player with the 8'th pick and you're pretty sure he'll be taht, isn't that better then a player who might be more, but you're less sure about?
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[QUOTE=Knuck the Ficks]If we choose Curry at #8 then I'll be pissed. If the Knicks trade down for him then I guess that would be OK. I still don't see how he's miles ahead of someone like J.J Redick. Redick's not bad but he shouldn't have been picked in the lottery.[/QUOTE]
Hmm... Reddick was a great college shooter but I don't think his footwork was really the same. He was on an amazing team run by an amazing coach. I think Curry is more clutch too honestly. JJ had huge games but I don't think he had the same drive game. Or Curry's ability play point which should improve.
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[QUOTE=Knuck the Ficks]
Teams have moved from #8 into the top three in the past. Giving a kid a promise before the lottery has even taken place would be asinine.[/QUOTE]
Chicago only had a 1.7% chance of getting top pick last year, so it happens.
Knicks have a 10% chance of moving into top 3 spot. Need a little Patrick Ewing luck.....
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[quote=indiefan23]I really do wish we were friends, cuz in 5 years I'll have insta-smack to go to any time you want to disagree with me. "yea, remember when you said Stephen Curry shouldn't be drafted in the top 10 of a brutally weak draft year, was a smaller Robert Vaden and wasn't much different then all the shooters who go undrafted?" "yea?" "Well, same thing." "Hey, you know his father sank more 3's in a season then anyone and had a 15 year career, right?" "yea, I knew that" "just checking"
It'd be great to bring up every time Curry sinks a dagger vs some team that didn't fight through a screen after a double team on their star during some huge playoff moment. That's beyond the fact that he's most likely capable of backing up PG too. Anyway...[/quote]Stephen is not his father. They also do not have the same style jumper. The Robert Vaden comparison is apt. They are both streaky shooters who are mediocre to below average in every other aspect of the game.
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]How can't you be crazy about him? He's undersized but his footwork is better then almost all NBA players and he can shoot the lights out. His passing game has gotten way better this year.
He's 6'3" which is the [B]same as Eric Gordon, plays the same game and already played it better last year then EG[/B]. Even if Curry's ceiling is shooter off the bench how don't you want that on your team? He 'will' win big games for you so if you draft him and he's just a shooter, you get dibs on a low cost assassin from long range. You win.[/QUOTE]
Your kidding me right? Gordon is light years ahead of Curry. Gordon is more than just a shooter, he slashes and attacks and knows how to use his body. Also look at Gordon's body compared to Curry's. Gordon is way stronger than Curry is.
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I smell Shawn Respert. Anyone remember him? Undersized great shooter who couldn't get his shot off in the NBA.
KNICKS FAN AND DO NOT WANT! Of course it's asking too much for f*cking Dantoni to wanna play defense. Makes me miss Oakley and Starks :(
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Eric Gordon - Wilson Chandler - Blake Griffin...
Would have been a fun core to build around.
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[quote=Kombo]Eric Gordon - Wilson Chandler - Blake Griffin...
Would have been a fun core to build around.[/quote]
so basically it's just wilson chandler the knicks are building around?
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[QUOTE=Kombo]Eric Gordon - Wilson Chandler - Blake Griffin...
Would have been a fun core to build around.[/QUOTE]
Knicks won lottery and are getting Griffin? HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote=Dasher]Stephen is not his father. They also do not have the same style jumper. The Robert Vaden comparison is apt. They are both streaky shooters who are mediocre to below average in every other aspect of the game.[/quote]
Vaden's a pretty good defender. At least he used to be, have no idea what he became after being the go to scorer for UAB.
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Great. Another player to throw around in the rotation. We don't need more 3 point shooters. What this team lacks is a PG that can control the tempo and a low-post scoring threat. QRich is not exactly a franchise low-post player.
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[QUOTE=gencbiba]Great. Another player to throw around in the rotation. We don't need more 3 point shooters. What this team lacks is a PG that can control the tempo and a low-post scoring threat. QRich is not exactly a franchise low-post player.[/QUOTE]
Well apparently Stephen and Lebron James are friends, from what I've read. This is probably part of motivation.
Also, after this year, Knicks have no guards signed. Gallo, Chandler, Eddy Curry, and Jeffries only players signed in 2010. Add David Lee to that most likely.
So Knicks need guards: Cuttino is retired, Duhon, Hughes are expirers, and Nate might be let go or traded. I can easily see Knicks taking PG or combo guard in draft. I just don't know if Curry is best available.
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The Knicks need to hope and pray that The T-Wolves fall in love with someone at 8, and want to make a deal. If they are jonesing for a player to play the Barbosa role, they can get him in Tony Douglass much later in the draft. I would also have my eye on Eric Maynor, Johnny Flynn, and Earl Clark if I can't move.
Also The Knick's promise has to be taken with a grain of salt. Teams often make promise-like statements to goad players into entering the draft. Teams benefit from there being more prospects in the draft. Also if Stephen does not measure well, or perform well during athletic drills, whatever they told him will be rescinded.
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[QUOTE=Dasher]Stephen is not his father. They also do not have the same style jumper. The Robert Vaden comparison is apt. They are both streaky shooters who are mediocre to below average in every other aspect of the game.[/QUOTE]
How can a guy who hits 45% of his 3's as the primary scorer on his team in any context be streaky? Try again. I love how when someone's a good shooter and you want to hate on him you just call him 'streaky'. Even if he was 'streaky' shooters are a great asset. You think Eddie House coming into a game and immediately hitting 4 3's does not help your team?
Like, are you trying to say he's a bad shooter? That's just stupid. He is not.
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Going 1-12 only to heat up late in the game makes you streaky. I don't think you watched him play enough. He would often shoot his team out of games by going cold in the first half.
Last year he had games of 2-13, 4-16, 2-12, 2-9, 1-8, 2-8, 3-16, 2-11, and 2-13. His vision is poor, and it takes little ball pressure for him to be forced to pick up his dribble. His passes lack snap, and tend to float. The kid's lack of core strength and balance makes it easy to knock him off balance when driving. These flaws in his game will make it difficult for him to thrive in the NBA when coupled with the fact that he has a set shot.
Torching Furman, App State, and Elon to boost up his numbers is not impressive to me.
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[QUOTE]How can a guy who hits 45% of his 3's as the primary scorer on his team in any context be streaky?[/QUOTE]How does that make him ineligible from being streaky? All that number is a percentage.
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]How does that make him ineligible from being streaky? All that number is a percentage.[/QUOTE]
A streak shooter is inconsistent... if you're inconsistent you don't hit almost half your distance shots. People streak up to appear better then they are, nto downto appear worse. He's shooting as the focal point of the defense too. You don't think he could play off of Lebron? You're just hating on him.
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[QUOTE]People streak up to appear better then they are[/QUOTE]Exactly!
Look, I'm not saying that Curry is a bad shooter. I'm just pointing out a hole in your argument that you've presented by throwing his % out there as an end-all.
[QUOTE]You don't think he could play off of Lebron?[/QUOTE]He [I]could[/I]. Sure.
[QUOTE]You're just hating on him.[/QUOTE]I'm not hating on the kid at all. Thinking someone might not be a good pro isn't hating on them. I probably have the same concern that a lot of scouts have. I'm just not in love with the kid. You clearly are, and that's fine with me. I just don't like him as a big-time prospect or anything higher than a late 1st round pick.
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I don't want him. Allan Houston without toughness and worse shot.
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]Exactly!
Look, I'm not saying that Curry is a bad shooter. I'm just pointing out a hole in your argument that you've presented by throwing his % out there as an end-all.
He [I]could[/I]. Sure.
I'm not hating on the kid at all. Thinking someone might not be a good pro isn't hating on them. I probably have the same concern that a lot of scouts have. I'm just not in love with the kid. You clearly are, and that's fine with me. I just don't like him as a big-time prospect or anything higher than a late 1st round pick.[/QUOTE]
That's fair enough. I just see him as either a semi-star or a low cost killer. Even if he's streaky and remains so for the rest of his career (I don't really see how he is) he's still fully capable of playing that Eddie House role on a team. And Eddie House is a fully capable playoff assassin. In a good offense Curry can be huge. If Jarren Jackson can be a killer for the Spurs theres no reason at all to expect less from Curry.
In this years draft are you really going to do better? Seriously, why draft a likely bust only on potential when you can draft a guy who's a likely solid role player with a ceiling well beyond that? Killer Instinct is one of the few unteachable traits in the NBA and Curry has it in spades. I think that alone puts him higher. Is it just me that sees that?
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]How does that make him ineligible from being streaky? All that number is a percentage.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I just realized bubbles was your avatar. I'm not going to argue with you anymore... but instead make obscure quotes from my fave hometown show.
Now where did I put my Freedom 35?:rockon:
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I just don't see this guy living up to the hype. he's a steaky shooter playing in a weak conference.his court vison is horrible and his handles are below average.at best he'll put up dajuan wagner numbers.(rookie year)
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wagneda02.html[/url].as for his 3pt% theres a huge difference in getting open looks versus zones and soft man to man college d (horrible rotations).then physical nba d (crisp rotations) and quick close outs on the perimeter.(better athletes higher b-ball iq).
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]I'm sorry, I just realized bubbles was your avatar. I'm not going to argue with you anymore... but instead make obscure quotes from my fave hometown show.
Now where did I put my Freedom 35?:rockon:[/QUOTE]That show is teh awesome.
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[QUOTE=Jay-Hoops]I just don't see this guy living up to the hype. he's a steaky shooter playing in a weak conference.his court vison is horrible and his handles are below average.at best he'll put up dajuan wagner numbers.(rookie year)
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wagneda02.html[/url].as for his 3pt% theres a huge difference in getting open looks versus zones and soft man to man college d (horrible rotations).then physical nba d (crisp rotations) and quick close outs on the perimeter.(better athletes higher b-ball iq).[/QUOTE]
There is also a huge, huge difference between being the focal point of the offense and receiving scouted defenses trying to stop you and playing off another player who's able to create open looks for you. Why do you think Curry won't be getting open looks in the NBA. If Bruce Bowen's corpse gets open looks, Curry can. If he's playing off a 20/10 inside threat, say Big Al, or say Lebron, you don't think he'll put up great numbers? I despise this 'streaky shooter' thing. The guy was the whole offense in college. If he hit a team that defended him better he didn't shoot as well. That in no way makes him 'streaky' but means he's on a crappy team. Which makes sense: they went to the NIT while having one of the best college players. Right?
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]That show is teh awesome.[/QUOTE]
Yep, one of the most original and best on TV. They filmed parts of the movie on my street. Its coolness. I think I need to eat 7 tins of ravioli, have a donair and piss in a jug I'll throw up in a tree. Rock!
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Look, we all know why the Knicks are taking Stephen Curry....isn't it obvious?
In this economy, any way to save money helps. Knicks are trying to land players with same last names as former Knick players to save money on printing jerseys. Eddy Curry will be gone soon, so Stephen will simply take his jersey. I hope Stephen likes #34.
Why do you think Knicks are going after Lebron JAMES.....Jerome JAMES.....Lebron JAMES........hello??????????
You people are so stupid.....:hammerhead:
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[QUOTE=Jay-Hoops]I just don't see this guy living up to the hype. he's a steaky shooter playing in a weak conference.his court vison is horrible and his handles are below average.at best he'll put up dajuan wagner numbers.(rookie year)
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wagneda02.html[/url].as for his 3pt% theres a huge difference in getting open looks versus zones and soft man to man college d (horrible rotations).then physical nba d (crisp rotations) and quick close outs on the perimeter.(better athletes higher b-ball iq).[/QUOTE]
In a nice recollection bump after Curry's 36/13/10 7 3's game, or his 24/15/6 game... all of you who stated Stephen Curry was going to be an NBA bust are invited for a nice lunch of crow, 3 pointer style. He's going to be an all star, no doubt.
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]In a nice recollection bump after Curry's 36/13/10 7 3's game, or his 24/15/6 game... all of you who stated Stephen Curry was going to be an NBA bust are invited for a nice lunch of crow, 3 pointer style. He's going to be an all star, no doubt.[/QUOTE]
So wehre are ya j hoops? Still think he'll be Wagner? ;0
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:roll:
bump of the year..
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]In a nice recollection bump after Curry's 36/13/10 7 3's game, or his 24/15/6 game... all of you who stated Stephen Curry was going to be an NBA bust are invited for a nice lunch of crow, 3 pointer style. He's going to be an all star, no doubt.[/QUOTE]
He has Starbury written all over him and you know it.
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[QUOTE=Bandito]He has Starbury written all over him and you know it.[/QUOTE]
Did we mistake Stephen for Brandon Jennings?
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Oh wait you were right :lol
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]In a nice recollection bump after Curry's 36/13/10 7 3's game, or his 24/15/6 game... all of you who stated Stephen Curry was going to be an NBA bust are invited for a nice lunch of crow, 3 pointer style. He's going to be an all star, no doubt.[/QUOTE]
Not with the Knicks though...:roll:
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Curry is really fun to watch. He's gonna be a great player.
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[QUOTE=enayes]Curry is really fun to watch. He's gonna be a great player.[/QUOTE]
He's the sole reason Warriors fans haven't engaged in a mass suicide.