K Mart is right next to Artest on the list of humans on earth NOT to mess with.
I don't dislike Cuban, but this was a really stupid move.
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K Mart is right next to Artest on the list of humans on earth NOT to mess with.
I don't dislike Cuban, but this was a really stupid move.
I think it would be hilarious if Kenyon did confront Cuban... and Cuban whooped his a$$.
You never know, Cuban could be training MMA behind closed doors... he does promote MMA events under HDNET.
His mother should have shut the **** up in a first place.
[QUOTE=CroqueMort]His mother should have shut the **** up in a first place.[/QUOTE]I don't see any evidence that she actually said anything.
What a jerk. I appreciate his passion as an owner, but this was a really stupid thing to get involved with. I could tell he was pissed when he was leaving the court. He had every right to be angry, but as the owner of a multi-million dollar corporation, he needs to conduct himself in a professional manner. Stuff like this is absolute horsesh!t.
Cuban is a spoiled flamboyant gay man, leave him be.
Handle your business Kenyon, just try not to get suspended from any games. :oldlol:
There are times when you love Mark Cuban.. this is not one of them.
it is always a beautiful thing seeing dallas go home, but i would rather them win and see cuban get his ass whooped..
[QUOTE=Toizumi]Lol nah it's just a strange sentence
and that was when he said: "that includes your son"
... I didnt get it either at first..
Gotta show some respect to mothers. :rant I think that was pretty fckn low by Cuban..[/QUOTE]
Good catch.
I though K-Mart's mom was yelling it.
That makes much more sense now but it was dumb of him to say it.
Mark Cuban has some major problems.
[QUOTE=niko][B]I just thought the whole thing was a lot of fake anger on Dallas's part, because honestly,[/B] i would be pissed at Antoine Wright cause he went out of his way to make it look like he DID NOT FOUL (he also didn't tell the refs the team planned to foul, no one did) and then they got all upset, and then after the game all the hysterical bull**** they pulled, it was ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
+11
The more I heard them complain, the less I cared.
And I welcome getting to see this freakin face again:
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:cheers:
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this is hilarious. the ref's weren't responsible for playing D.
Mark Cuban......an example of a classless owner.
Cuban said the honest truth.
But really, this is just a bad matchup for the Mavs. KMart is a fake tough guy and a punkassbeyotch, but if a team beats you 7-0 in one season, they got your number.
Kmart is in an awkward spot. He definitely wants to beat his ass in a bad way but there is no way to do it without it becoming public.
Cuban deserves whatever he gets.
I still can't believe Cuban gets away with all the **** he does. No other owner is this moronic.
Cuban. What a classic, gay man.
Homosexual.
Update from the TNT crew: Cuban says Kenyon's mom can sit next to him any time she wants.
[QUOTE=Solid Snake]Cuban. What a classic, gay man.
Homosexual.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Big#50]Cuban is a spoiled flamboyant gay man, leave him be.[/QUOTE]
lol:oldlol:
im pretty sure he said "happy mother's day" after his homo speech.
[quote=StroShow4]Update from the TNT crew: Cuban says Kenyon's mom can sit next to him any time she wants.[/quote]
Like they were saying, Cuban needs to man up and apologize. Whether you agree with what he said or not, you don't say that to the dude's mom, especially not in the way he did by pointing a finger in her face. I'd have no problem with it if Martin knocked him out.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Like they were saying, Cuban needs to man up and apologize. Whether you agree with what he said or not, you don't say that to the dude's mom, especially not in the way he did by pointing a finger in her face. I'd have no problem with it if Martin knocked him out.[/QUOTE]
well said.
[QUOTE=niko]I just thought the whole thing was a lot of fake anger on Dallas's part, because honestly, i would be pissed at Antoine Wright cause he went out of his way to make it look like he DID NOT FOUL (he also didn't tell the refs the team planned to foul, no one did) and then they got all upset, and then after the game all the hysterical bull**** they pulled, it was ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree I think it was out of anger but more so towards the refs and the fact they lost the game in such a tough manner. I mean if the NBA came out and said the officials made a mistake I think it's safe to say he fouled him.
Second, I think once Wright saw the ref wasn't going to call the foul he put his hands up so he didn't get called for a 3 shot shooting foul and just hope melo would miss the shot. And you don't tell the refs, they know you have a foul to give and with Carlisle standing there yelling "get him get him" or whatever, I think the refs should know what was going on. Yes it sucks for them and I guess he should have fouled harder but I don't understand the hysterical bull**** they pulled, I mean they were upset on the court who wouldn't be? If your not upset you shouldn't be playing. If you hear Carlisle he took it well all things considered. Again, the league came out admitting a mistake so I don't understand why you think the Mavericks aren't going to be upset. That's their season right there.
[URL="http://blogmaverick.com/2009/05/12/an-apology-to-kenyon-martins-mom-2/"]Cuban's apology[/URL]
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski][URL="http://blogmaverick.com/2009/05/12/an-apology-to-kenyon-martins-mom-2/"]Cuban's apology[/URL][/QUOTE]
that nice of him to finally man up..
[QUOTE]When the series comes back to Dallas, your family, and the family of other Nuggets players are welcome to stay in my suite, with my family.[/QUOTE]
lol he's so sure that the series is coming back to dallas.. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski][URL="http://blogmaverick.com/2009/05/12/an-apology-to-kenyon-martins-mom-2/"]Cuban's apology[/URL][/QUOTE]
Great. Now if only Big Baby will do the same.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Oakley is never called a thug tho on this site. How is Oakley not a punk nor a thug. But Kmart is. I'm lost. People embrace the days of the Bad Boys. Featuring dirty players. Yet when todays players mimick it they are punks and thugs? Why couldnt they be considered the same things you called Oakley and guys of his caliber back then. Lets keep in mind Oakley couldnt do what he did in todays game. He took would have to have some form of resistence given consequences, punishments.
Just curious.
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The same reason Charles Barkley is able to spit on a 8 or 10(?) year old child/fan,spoke of generally hating white people,whine about his contract/money,etc., ......but people just laugh at the old chuckster. Now let any post 80's/Dream Team star try & get away with half the stuff(except Shaq)many of the troubled stars of the 80's got away with.
There is this sickening media/fanboy love affair with the 80's & the Magic/Bird era & an unending outpouring of goodwill which is also apparent here on the ISH. In general it seems 'most'(not all) NBA stars of that era can get away with behavior that today's players can't & that goodwill has evaporated as evidenced by outright hostility towards the 2004 Olympic team.
We all know the spitting incident, and that he aimed another jackass but unfortunately spat on that little girl. They say that they have a good relation now.
Anyway it was a good decision from Mark Cuban to apologyze, even if He was not guilty at 100%.
[QUOTE=yeaaaman]Yes I agree I think it was out of anger but more so towards the refs and the fact they lost the game in such a tough manner. I mean if the NBA came out and said the officials made a mistake I think it's safe to say he fouled him.
Second, I think once Wright saw the ref wasn't going to call the foul he put his hands up so he didn't get called for a 3 shot shooting foul and just hope melo would miss the shot. And you don't tell the refs, they know you have a foul to give and with Carlisle standing there yelling "get him get him" or whatever, I think the refs should know what was going on. Yes it sucks for them and I guess he should have fouled harder but I don't understand the hysterical bull**** they pulled, I mean they were upset on the court who wouldn't be? If your not upset you shouldn't be playing. If you hear Carlisle he took it well all things considered. Again, the league came out admitting a mistake so I don't understand why you think the Mavericks aren't going to be upset. That's their season right there.[/QUOTE]
no, you are wrong. it is not the ref's responsibility to track number of fouls, the number of fouls should not impact a call. and it is an established nba tradition to let the refs know you are fouling intentionally, so they call it quicker and don't think you are trying to rough someone up when you grab them. so basically, i am speaking from fact and you are speaking from what you think.
i don't care what anyone says, two hands up in the air like the cops are pointing a gun at you is not a sign for I FOULED, it's a sign for NOT ME.
Well, Kenyon Martin is a thug. So is half of Denver's roster. Martin can get all pissy but his momma must be somewhat f'd up herself to raise kenyon to be who is today which is an overgrown ten year old with wack tats and a thug mentality. you can take the thug out the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the thug. sadly, you see this with a TON of nba players today.
on a side note, cuban doesn't look the same. he looks like a mutant clone compared to how he did 3 years ago. I think he's had a face lift and some other gay sheet done.
[QUOTE=niko]no, you are wrong. it is not the ref's responsibility to track number of fouls, the number of fouls should not impact a call. and it is an established nba tradition to let the refs know you are fouling intentionally, so they call it quicker and don't think you are trying to rough someone up when you grab them. so basically, i am speaking from fact and you are speaking from what you think.
[B]i don't care what anyone says, two hands up in the air like the cops are pointing a gun at you is not a sign for I FOULED, it's a sign for NOT ME[/B].[/QUOTE]
:applause: First thing I thought when I saw that play. Terribly stupid by Wright. I just dont get it, I know he was trying to foul.. but it just looks like he's throwing his hands up as a way of saying: no foul here, I didnt touch him :wtf:
[QUOTE=John Smith]Well, Kenyon Martin is a thug. So is half of Denver's roster. Martin can get all pissy but his momma must be somewhat f'd up herself to raise kenyon to be who is today which is an overgrown ten year old with wack tats and a thug mentality. you can take the thug out the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the thug. sadly, you see this with a TON of nba players today.
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First of all, why would you continue to support/care about these 'tons' of 'thugs' in the NBA?
Funny how David Stern & I rarely hear the term 'thugs' thrown around at clowns like Roger Clemens & MLB Players who routinely get into brawls.
And people still foolishly/naively wonder why the League has cracked down on the hard fouls(which leads to fights/brawls).:confusedshrug:
This guy represents what Stern feels many people feel about his Players.
[QUOTE=32jazz]First of all, why would you continue to support/care about these 'tons' of 'thugs' in the NBA?
Funny how David Stern & I rarely hear the term 'thugs' thrown around at clowns like Roger Clemens & MLB Players who routinely get into brawls.
And people still foolishly/naively wonder why the League has cracked down on the hard fouls(which leads to fights/brawls).:confusedshrug:
This guy represents what Stern feels many people feel about his Players.[/QUOTE]
I liked the NBA when there wasn't the thug/rap mentality. You know, before Biggie. Before every nba baller thought they could rap too (yeah you ron artest). i'm not going to quit watching the game because of a few bad apples.
Roger Clemens is not a thug. He may cheat but he keeps his mouth shout and doesn't act all fugazy on the field. He went about his business with respect for his opponents. Unlike the big headed kenyon martin. When the Nugz had Camby and no Billups, they were 100% thugz. I guarantee George Karl blows blunts with Melo and the Birdman.
[QUOTE=John Smith]I liked the NBA when there wasn't the thug/rap mentality. You know, before Biggie. Before every nba baller thought they could rap too (yeah you ron artest). i'm not going to quit watching the game because of a few bad apples.
Roger Clemens is not a thug. He may cheat but he keeps his mouth shout and doesn't act all fugazy on the field. He went about his business with respect for his opponents. Unlike the big headed kenyon martin. When the Nugz had Camby and no Billups, they were 100% thugz. I guarantee George Karl blows blunts with Melo and the Birdman.[/QUOTE]
Again why still watch/support these millionaire thugs? I would never knowingly support anyone I have that big of an issue with.:confusedshrug:
Roger Clemen's menacing on the mound & throwing broken bats at the heads of his opponenents is him just being a good old boy right:rolleyes: So Martin running his mouth is a problem for you although trash talk has been part of the NBA since forever ,(especially in the 80's/90's with Bird/MJ/Payton,Barkley,etc.....) ,but I have never seen him assault anyone.
The posters who get on here & whine about the NBA's crack down on hard fouls & fights(Flagrant fouls/ejections) have people who think like Joh Smith to thank.
So Denver now represents the entire NBA? My team doesn't have thugs. And I support my city and my city's teams no matter how bad they may be. Always have, always will. I don't go to the games, I don't buy jerseys with other men's names on the back. I don't support the NBA, I just watch it. I'll DVR the games and then watch them later. So i can fast forward through the commercials, free throws, etc. and just watch the final two minutes of each quarter or just fast forward the entire game if it is super boring like the last Cavs game.
Get this...[B]I want Denver to win it all[/B]. I like Chauncey Billups. He represents what is good with the NBA and pro sports as a whole. I just call a spade a spade or in this case a thug a thug.
[QUOTE=John Smith]So Denver now represents the entire NBA? My team doesn't have thugs. And I support my city and my city's teams no matter how bad they may be. Always have, always will. I don't go to the games, I don't buy jerseys with other men's names on the back. I don't support the NBA, I just watch it. I'll DVR the games and then watch them later. So i can fast forward through the commercials, free throws, etc. and just watch the final two minutes of each quarter or just fast forward the entire game if it is super boring like the last Cavs game.
Get this...[B]I want Denver to win it all[/B]. I like Chauncey Billups. He represents what is good with the NBA and pro sports as a whole. I just call a spade a spade or in this case a thug a thug.[/QUOTE]
Supporting one team is doing your part in supporting the Leagus as a whole. :applause:
Interesting how Clemens meanacing players on the mound & throwing broken(sharp edged) bats at other players heads is overlooked by you & those of your ilk. He is defensible ,but a few trashtalking NBA players(in the mold of Bird/Barkley/MJ/Payton,etc....) are instant 'thugs' yet you don't personally know these people.
Thanks for helping to prove what David Stern feels many in the general public think about his players. The more you post the more you prove my point why the NBA is justified in getting rid of the physical garbage that was once played by teams of the blindly beloved late 80's/90's(Bad Boys/Knicks) which had begun to infect the entire League & ruin the game.
Glad the League decided to bring that nonsense to a end.
Kenyon Martin I'm sure thanks you for your support.
Your obvious hate for Roger Clemens has no place in this thread or on this board, you boston red sox fan you. #1 he is white. How many white thugs do you know? seriously, stats don't lie like % of the prison population. #2, clemens doesn't walk around with a terrible disposition/body language. #3, Clemens actually knows how to use the english language when 99% of thugs do not know anything besides ebonics (white ones too/if you grow up in the gutter you are going to talk like you are from the gutter). and #4, Clemens isn't tatted up like most thugs/kenyon martin is. it really is foolish of you to bring up clemens. take your red sox hat off already...
[QUOTE=John Smith]Your obvious hate for Roger Clemens has no place in this thread or on this board, you boston red sox fan you. #1 he is white. How many white thugs do you know? seriously, stats don't lie like % of the prison population. #2, clemens doesn't walk around with a terrible disposition/body language. #3, Clemens actually knows how to use the english language when 99% of thugs do not know anything besides ebonics (white ones too/if you grow up in the gutter you are going to talk like you are from the gutter). and #4, Clemens isn't tatted up like most thugs/kenyon martin is. it really is foolish of you to bring up clemens. take your red sox hat off already...[/QUOTE]
How would you define thug?
Thug: A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.
Hoodlum: A gangster; a tough, often aggressive or violent youth
Being tatted up doesn't mean you are a thug.
Trash talking doesn't mean you are a thug.
Ebonics doesn't mean you are a thug.
Being black doesn't mean you are a thug.
A "terrible disposition/body language" doesn't mean you are a thug.
I hate when people try to say "____ is a thug" when really, unless there has been publicly announced crimes or something to that effect, people have no clue. We don't know these players personally, all we can do is make assumptions based on their looks; but then again, I'm sure everybody's heard "you can't judge a book by it's cover".
I'm not necessarily referring to K-Mart in this, I'm just saying in general.