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[QUOTE=cotdt]Does Lebron make you feel insecure? I hope Lebron continues to act like a winner, and carry on that prima donna attitude ala Kobe. We don't need any more boring Howard-type personalities in the NBA, people who smile too much so that fans would like them.[/QUOTE]
What the f*ck are you talking about? You're easily the dumbest poster on ISH.
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]Mo Williams game log:
5-14 35.7%
8-13 61.5%
1-11 9.1%
9-14 64.3%
7-12 58.3%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
4-11 36.4%
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
[B]Mo Williams shot under 50%[/B] in 9 out of 14 games. Great offense. What a sidekick![/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll:
1. didn't MJ shoot 48% in the playoffs...for his career!!! (which is quite good).
2. only 5 guards IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE, who score at least 15ppg, shot over 50%.
Perimeter players don't average 50%.
[QUOTE=cotdt]Does Lebron make you feel insecure? I hope Lebron continues to act like a winner, and carry on that prima donna attitude ala Kobe. We don't need any more boring Howard-type personalities in the NBA, people who smile too much so that fans would like them.[/QUOTE]
act like a winner :oldlol:
Threads like this are why people hate kobe, his fans are idiots. Ya boy won a championship people, who cares if he's been superseded as the best player in the game.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]:roll: :roll:
1. didn't MJ shoot 48% in the playoffs...for his career!!! (which is quite good).
2. only 5 guards IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE, who score at least 15ppg, shot over 50%.
Perimeter players don't average 50%.[/QUOTE]
Mo Williams played terrible in key games, I guess you don't understand that, and you obviously didn't watch the playoffs.
Mo Williams in the first 4 games of the Magic series:
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
By the way, Jordan had numerous seasons and playoff runs shooting over 50%.
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]Mo Williams game log:
5-14 35.7%
8-13 61.5%
1-11 9.1%
9-14 64.3%
7-12 58.3%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
4-11 36.4%
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Mo Williams shot under 50% in 9 out of 14 games. Great offense. What a sidekick![/QUOTE]
You want stats ?
Orlando's offense in that series :
103.7 points
48.2 FG%
40.8 3P%
10.3 three point baskets per game
That's why we lost.
Compare that to our regular season numbers :
91.4 points (1st in the league)
43.1 FG% (1st in the league)
33.3 3P% (1st in the league)
5.9 three point baskets per game (7th in the league)
It's so simple to blame the loss on Mo Williams because he couldn't find his shot. Our defense was the real problem.
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]Dude, I disagree 100%. LeBron creates shots for his teammates all night long. You must not watch many Cavs games.
[U][I][B]Your re-education starts here:[/B][/I][/U]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UguTCRRfekM&feature=PlayList&p=071923CAD2E4936B&index=0&playnext=1[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XKBCNTbAXM&feature=PlayList&p=D149D39D4E816EC3&index=0&playnext=1[/url]
You are wrong in so many ways. I'm not even gonna take time to entertain this false information other than post visual proof why you are wrong.[/QUOTE]
I watched a huge number of Cavs games this year actually, and I'm not disagreeing that he was creating shots for them. However, during the year, though he dominated the ball an awful lot, it wasn't nearly to the extent that he did it in the Cavs-Magic series. Literally there wasn't a posession in the 2nd half of some games in that series that didn't run through his hands. You can't expect his teammates to just sit there and not touch the ball for a 2-3 minute stretch, and then when Lebron kicks it to them have them hit the shot. It just won't happen.
If you notice in the first half of games 1 and 2 when they built those big leads, every Cav on the floor was being allowed to create; they played team ball. In the second half however, it degenerated into give it to Lebron and let him do something. This also goes back to the defense aspect, because whether you like it or not when a person's offense is flowing their effort on defense increases.
:oldlol: at the precedence of a good game being an arbritrary 50 FG% mark.
Guess Lebron was horrible in the Magic series as he only shot over 50% in 2 of the 6 games. Not saying Mo Williams played well, but the stats you throw up on here are meaningless as hell.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]:roll: :roll:
1. didn't MJ shoot 48% in the playoffs...for his career!!! (which is quite good).
2. only 5 guards IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE, who score at least 15ppg, shot over 50%.
Perimeter players don't average 50%.[/QUOTE]
But they should shoot better than 41% from the field in the playoffs, or at least step up their production in other areas, especially if people want to pass them off as quality sidekicks
LET'S ALL SING...LEBRON JAMES...OVERRATED OVERRATED...
DOMINIQUE JR DOMINQUE JR DOMINQUE JR...
I'M A STAT WHORE I'M A STAT WHORE I'M A STAT WHORE...
THE DUDE IS ONE BIG EGOMANIACAL STAT STUFFING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!
STATS MEAN $HIT IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS...JUST ASK FAT BOY CHUCK BARKLEY...OH THAT'S RIGHT HE'S GREAT TOO...
BARKLEY NEVER HAD ANY GOOD PLAYERS EITHER...MOSES MALONE, DR. J., MO CHEEKS, ANDREW TONEY, HAKEEM, AINGE, KEVIN JOHNSON, DAN MARJLE...YEP NOT A DECENT PLAYER IN THE BUNCH...:roll:
[QUOTE=KOBERAMBIS]LET'S ALL SING...LEBRON JAMES...OVERRATED OVERRATED...
DOMINIQUE JR DOMINQUE JR DOMINQUE JR...
I'M A STAT WHORE I'M A STAT WHORE I'M A STAT WHORE...
THE DUDE IS ONE BIG EGOMANIACAL STAT STUFFING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!
STATS MEAN $HIT IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS...JUST ASK FAT BOY CHUCK BARKLEY...OH THAT'S RIGHT HE'S GREAT TOO...
BARKLEY NEVER HAD ANY GOOD PLAYERS EITHER...MOSES MALONE, DR. J., MO CHEEKS, ANDREW TONEY, HAKEEM, AINGE, KEVIN JOHNSON, DAN MARJLE...YEP NOT A DECENT PLAYER IN THE BUNCH...:roll:[/QUOTE]
So are you criticizing lebron or chuck, I can't really tell.
[QUOTE=inclinerator]no the problem is lebron hid his team failure well when he was doing everything the 1st 2 rounds, but the matter of fact is the entire team other than him was playing horrible those 1st two rounds so dont say all that 66 wins excuse and coach of the year crap because i wouldnt be surprised if they lost to the detroit in the 1st round without lebron.[/QUOTE]
Everyone knows that COTY is a joke.
[QUOTE=BIG FURB]So are you criticizing lebron or chuck, I can't really tell.[/QUOTE]
They both get a pass from the media because their teammates weren't any good and it's a joke...especially in barkley's case...Just annoyed that excuses are used for some players in the league but not others.
[QUOTE=DuMa]assumptions. the making of a fine ass.[/QUOTE]
You're getting predictable now...
By the way, I find his shirts kind of amusing...why not let his achievements speak for themselves?
[QUOTE=BIG FURB]But they should shoot better than 41% from the field in the playoffs, or at least step up their production in other areas, especially if people want to pass them off as quality sidekicks[/QUOTE]
true that.
41% is too low.... but 50% is also too high to expect of a perimeter player.
mang, lebron is a moron..he's obviously owned the nba and owned these ex-jordan fans..let the douche do whatever he wants..
lebron douchey is taking off weight of kobe..lebron will soon be the most hated and sh!tted on..
acting like a douche, running off court, no hand shake, look at me t-shirt, cocky, arrogant, low-life, loser, cry baby, biting nails, etcs..
[QUOTE=Bodhi]Everyone knows that COTY is a joke.[/QUOTE]
WTF ? He's the main reason, after LeBron, that we've been so successfull. Before that series against Orlando, how many times did he get outcoached ? Maybe once, by Popovich in the Finals. But that Spurs team was clearly better than ours. It's no surprise a one-legged Larry Hughes couldn't keep up with Tony Parker. Or that Drew Gooden couldn't contain Duncan. On the other end, the Spurs played really smart and shut down LeBron, but we had no legit second option. Who was supposed to step up ? Z ? Boobie ? Pavlovic ? So I don't know if you can say Brown got outcoached. He didn't have the personel to contend with that Spurs team.
Don't forget how great he was when he faced the Pistons for example. He always made Billups look like an ordinary player. Prince was horrible for one of those series. And Flip Saunders could never adjust to what the Cavs were doing defensively. We took them out of their comfort zone, big time.
Just like the Celtics a year ago. On paper, it shouldn't have been close. But Ray Allen had like the most horrible series of his career. He didn't score a single point in the 1st game. And was pretty much horrible for the rest of the series. Paul Pierce was horrible too. He was 2-14 in the 1st game. He had 3 games in that series where he had more turnovers than field goals. Three. Almost half of the series ... But of course, that was just because they were cold, why would someone give credit to Mike Brown ?
It's really easy to say "well anybody could be coach of the year if they had LeBron", but that's not true. While LeBron obviously played a big part in our winning 66 games, he's not the reason the Cavs finished 1st in opp ppg, opp FG% and opp 3P%. That would be Mike Brown. And he didn't have the luxury to have a great big man in the middle like all great defensive teams do. No KG. No Dwight. No Duncan. And we were still elite defensively. Even worse, we had some horrible defensive players on that team. Wally Szczerbiak was always a defensive liability. Mo Williams was viewed as a poor defender when he was a Buck. And Big Z, he has great length but he has the mobility of a 45 year old.
Even before this season, we always were a good defensive team even though we had guys like the mentally-challenged Drew Gooden as our starting PF, Damon Jones, Flip Murray or Donyell Marshall. You can say what you want about Mike Brown, but don't act like he's not a defensive genius. He had one bad series, true, but don't forget how brilliant he's been before that. I'm sure he'll rebound from that and learn from his mistakes.
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]You want stats ?
Orlando's offense in that series :
103.7 points
48.2 FG%
40.8 3P%
10.3 three point baskets per game
That's why we lost.
Compare that to our regular season numbers :
91.4 points (1st in the league)
43.1 FG% (1st in the league)
33.3 3P% (1st in the league)
5.9 three point baskets per game (7th in the league)
It's so simple to blame the loss on Mo Williams because he couldn't find his shot. Our defense was the real problem.[/QUOTE]
[B]While I do agree, that the defense didn't step up, here's what the offense did....[/B]
Game logs NBA playoffs:
Mo Williams:
5-14 35.7%
8-13 61.5%
1-11 9.1%
9-14 64.3%
7-12 58.3%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
4-11 36.4%
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Delonte West:
5-8 62.5%
7-12 58.3%
0-7 0.0%
5-10 50%
5-11 45.5%
5-10 50%
4-8 50%
7-13 53.9%
4-13 30.8%
4-7 57.1%
5-11 45.5%
7-15 46.7%
6-13 46.2%
9-19 47.4%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
5-12 41.7%
5-12 41.7%
6-13 46.2%
4-8 50.0%
2-9 22.0%
3-6 50.0%
6-9 66.7%
6-13 46.2%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
Wally Szczerbiak
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-2 50.0%
2-4 50.0%
7-9 77.8%
0-2 0.0%
3-4 75.0%
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Daniel Gibson
2-3 66.7%
1-7 14.3%
2-5 40.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-3 66.7%
0-3 0.0%
0-3 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Daniel Gibson in the Magic Series:
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Mo Williams in the Magic series:
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Wally Szczerbiak in the Magic series:
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the Magic series:
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
[B]Between Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Wally Szczerbiak and Big Z they shot 38.6% in the Orlando Magic series, I thought that was a big reason why they lost?[/B]
Delonte West played alright, for his own standards, and so did Anderson Varejao. Even though Anderson at his best is still not as good as about half the power forwards in the league.
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]Mo Williams played terrible in key games, I guess you don't understand that, and you obviously didn't watch the playoffs.
Mo Williams in the first 4 games of the Magic series:
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
By the way, Jordan had numerous seasons and playoff runs shooting over 50%.[/QUOTE]
actually, it was a response to your ill-advised post reference "[B]50%[/B]".
yes, MJ shot over 50% many times. correct me if I'm wrong, but his career playoff avg is 48% (which is very good)...thus, showing you, again, that 50% is an unrealistic benchmark.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]actually, it was a response to your ill-advised post reference "[B]50%[/B]".
yes, MJ shot over 50% many times. correct me if I'm wrong, but his career playoff avg is 48% (which is very good)...thus, showing you, again, that 50% is an unrealistic benchmark.[/QUOTE]
Daniel Gibson in the Magic Series:
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Mo Williams in the Magic series:
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Wally Szczerbiak in the Magic series:
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the Magic series:
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
[B]Between Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Wally Szczerbiak and Big Z they shot 38.6% in the Orlando Magic series, I thought that was a big reason why they lost?[/B]
Delonte West played alright, for his own standards, and so did Anderson Varejao. Even though Anderson at his best is still not as good as about half the power forwards in the league
[IMG]http://king1876.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/shhh_cb2.jpg[/IMG]
Its Official Lebron is a clown
[QUOTE=bruceblitz][B]While I do agree, that the defense didn't step up, here's what the offense did....[/B]
Game logs NBA playoffs:
Mo Williams:
5-14 35.7%
8-13 61.5%
1-11 9.1%
9-14 64.3%
7-12 58.3%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
4-11 36.4%
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Delonte West:
5-8 62.5%
7-12 58.3%
0-7 0.0%
5-10 50%
5-11 45.5%
5-10 50%
4-8 50%
7-13 53.9%
4-13 30.8%
4-7 57.1%
5-11 45.5%
7-15 46.7%
6-13 46.2%
9-19 47.4%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
5-12 41.7%
5-12 41.7%
6-13 46.2%
4-8 50.0%
2-9 22.0%
3-6 50.0%
6-9 66.7%
6-13 46.2%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
Wally Szczerbiak
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-2 50.0%
2-4 50.0%
7-9 77.8%
0-2 0.0%
3-4 75.0%
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Daniel Gibson
2-3 66.7%
1-7 14.3%
2-5 40.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-3 66.7%
0-3 0.0%
0-3 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Daniel Gibson in the Magic Series:
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Mo Williams in the Magic series:
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Wally Szczerbiak in the Magic series:
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the Magic series:
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
[B]Between Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Wally Szczerbiak and Big Z they shot 38.6% in the Orlando Magic series, I thought that was a big reason why they lost?[/B]
Delonte West played alright, for his own standards, and so did Anderson Varejao. Even though Anderson at his best is still not as good as about half the power forwards in the league.[/QUOTE]
Now, can someone give me LeBron's Post game 1 %!?
[QUOTE=bruceblitz][B]Between Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Wally Szczerbiak and Big Z they shot 38.6% in the Orlando Magic series, I thought that was a big reason why they lost?[/B][/QUOTE]
So what ? Our offense, as a whole, was fine. LeBron made up for that with his play. We scored more than enough points to let our defense win games. But we were never able to get a defensive stop. That's what killed us.
I didn't have that big of a problem with him not shaking hands or talking to the media and really I'm not too bothered by this. Is it really as bad as David Robinson stat padding on the last day of the season with playoff position set against the Los Angeles Clippers so he could win the scoring title? Or is it really as bad as Wilt passing up shots so he could lead the league in assists? They weren't criticized for that. Superstars care about stats, but I don't think Lebron puts stats above winning. It's just a shirt, no big deal in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]So what ? Our offense, as a whole, was fine. LeBron made up for that with his play. We scored more than enough points to let our defense win games. But we were never able to get a defensive stop. That's what killed us.[/QUOTE]
Good to see a Cavs fan be unbias and not sniff LeBron's white Powder all the time!
Its sad that he does stuff like this...no matter what he means its tacky
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]You are trying to say that Rodman was in his prime with my Chicago Bulls?
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
They wouldn't win as many as Jordan did, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]
Who says LeBron/Kobe wouldn't win as many rings as Jordan with that Pippen/Rodman team (talking about second 3-peat since first 3-peat was a slightly different team)?? That Bulls team got 72 wins in 96 - it is not like Jordan carried the Bulls on his back in all 72 wins during that regular season and then the playoffs during the entire 2nd 3-peat.
-Rodman won like his 4th or 5th straight rebounding title that season so it wasn't like Rodman's game was finished when he was traded to Bulls. You can make the argument that his prime was from the 91-92 season going into 97-98 season. He is easily the greatest rebounder of the 90's, and you can make the case that he is the greatest rebounder of all time (considering that people like Wilt, Russell, etc were the tallest guys on the court in their era with the average height much lower than 6 feet so they would be able to out-rebound everyone around them. Rodman out-rebounded guys MUCH bigger than him). He was a better rebounder than what LeBron/Kobe had throughout their careers (yes, Rodman is better rebounder and man-on-man defender than Shaq). If you had a player averaging 16+ RPG (he would often get 20+ rebounds in a single game), you already have 1 very consistent variable. Rodman did not have too many off nights with his rebounding. We have not even talked about how good of a defender he was.
-Do I really have to say anything about Pippen? He is a top 5 SF of all time (I personally think he is the 3rd best SF of all time after Bird/LeBron). One of the most versatile players of all time, one of the top defenders of all time, etc etc etc. He is a much more consistent and better defensive version of today's Lamar Odom.
-They had Steve Kerr, who was probably the 2nd best 3pt-shooter of the 90's. I would say he was a better version of Mo Williams today from 3pt line. He is a better 3pt shooter than what LeBron/Kobe have today.
If you don't think that LeBron/Kobe would also have gotten a 3-peat during that 96-98 years (or MINIMUM of 2 rings) then you are completely delusional.
It's not a big deal. Have you guys ever heard the saying, "Check my tats" or ,"Check out my tats"? It's just a play off that and they put a $ in front.
"Check My Stat Whoring"!
[QUOTE=bladefd]Who says LeBron/Kobe wouldn't win as many rings as Jordan with that Pippen/Rodman team (talking about second 3-peat since first 3-peat was a slightly different team)?? That Bulls team got 72 wins in 96 - it is not like Jordan carried the Bulls on his back in all 72 wins during that regular season and then the playoffs during the entire 2nd 3-peat.
-Rodman won like his 4th or 5th straight rebounding title that season so it wasn't like Rodman's game was finished when he was traded to Bulls. You can make the argument that his prime was from the 91-92 season going into 97-98 season. He is easily the greatest rebounder of the 90's, and you can make the case that he is the greatest rebounder of all time (considering that people like Wilt, Russell, etc were the tallest guys on the court in their era with the average height much lower than 6 feet so they would be able to out-rebound everyone around them. Rodman out-rebounded guys MUCH bigger than him). He was a better rebounder than what LeBron/Kobe had throughout their careers (yes, Rodman is better rebounder and man-on-man defender than Shaq). If you had a player averaging 16+ RPG (he would often get 20+ rebounds in a single game), you already have 1 very consistent variable. Rodman did not have too many off nights with his rebounding. We have not even talked about how good of a defender he was.
-Do I really have to say anything about Pippen? He is a top 5 SF of all time (I personally think he is the 3rd best SF of all time after Bird/LeBron). One of the most versatile players of all time, one of the top defenders of all time, etc etc etc. He is a much more consistent and better defensive version of today's Lamar Odom.
-They had Steve Kerr, who was probably the 2nd best 3pt-shooter of the 90's. I would say he was a better version of Mo Williams today from 3pt line. He is a better 3pt shooter than what LeBron/Kobe have today.
If you don't think that LeBron/Kobe would also have gotten a 3-peat during that 96-98 years (or MINIMUM of 2 rings) then you are completely delusional.[/QUOTE]
Steve Kerr better version of Mo Williams? Steve Kerr averaged 8 points per gamer during that timespan. You obviously didn't watch those Bulls teams. [B][I]Have you ever heard of Glen Rice or Reggie Miller?[/I][/B]
Secondly, Rodman was a huge liability on offense, he couldn't create his own shot, but yes, he could rebound and play defense and no he wasn't in his prime.
If you think you would place LeBron/Kobe on that 3 peat team, and they would have won 3 championships, you are high... this is the [B]%'s of the team's points[/B] they would have needed to score in the Finals alone:
Michael Jordan
1991: 30.8% (W)
1992: 34.6% (W)
1993: 38.3% (W)
1996: 29.4% (W)
1997: 36.8% (W)
1998: 38.1% (W)
So while you give all of that credit to the team, Jordan scored over 35% of his team's points in the 6 title runs. Which is a lot to ask of any player.
[B][U]LeDouche Bronze[/U][/B]
[IMG]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YODg65nll_o/SYDRcjAfjNI/AAAAAAABapQ/wNnEorYCmGk/s800/lebron-james-tattoo-001-back-chosen-one-small.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Obviously, his ego is larger than life...[/B]
[B]He ain't no choosen one..!! He's a big ass douche who plays football on a basketball court..Plowing through players like a running back..He's lucky the refs bail him out on every play..All those offensive fouls sending him to the line for 2s free throws..[/B]
i guess it is a reply to the outrage he got after wearing the ME=MVP shirt.
it is like
lebron wears "LJB MVP" shirt
everything slams lbj
lebron responce by wearing "Check my $tats" shirt
Wtf is he.. 12?
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]Fatal9, I wish they would have kept you banned.
Fatal9 = LeBron James HATER / Kobe Bryant LOVER[/QUOTE]
BruceBlitz's brain capacity:
Hatred for Kobe 90%
Love for MJ 9%
Love for Lebron 1%
Brucey how my ass taste?
[QUOTE=miles berg]Mo Williams?
ROFL
Ok, Mo Williams ranks right up there with other great sidekicks of the modern era like Worthy, Kareem, Pippen, Kobe, Paul Pierce, & Gasol.
Right there on the same page![/QUOTE]Mo Williams may not be as good as some of those players but at one point i think Mo + LeBron was the highest duo in the League.
Players who led the league in 3pt fg% in the 90's:
Dell Curry
Dale Ellis
Glen Rice
Tim Legler
Tracy Murray
Chris Mullin
Dana Barros
Jim Les
Steve Kerr
Players who lead the league in 3pt fg's made in the 90's:
Vernon Maxwell
Dan Majerle
Reggie Miller
John Starks
Dennis Scott
Wesley Person
Dee Brown
You have Kerr ranked 2cnd out of all these shooters?
Steve Kerr isn't anywhere near most of those guys let alone John Stockton, Mark Price and Jeff Hornacek.
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its funny how you guys just ignore what lefthook said and still continue to bash him :oldlol:
Ever heard the saying "check my tats"?
Well since he's a b-ball player, it's "check my stats".
You guys are making such a big deal outta nothin.
[B]You knew the Kobe apostles would be all over this thread...[/B]
Anyways, so LeBron can't wear a shirt that says check my stats, which is usually a reference to someone's living status and not their basketball production....
So what would we say about a UFC fighter who wears this:
[IMG]http://morphinelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/osu-t-shirt.jpg[/IMG]
This is just another tastless moment by an overrated basketball player (when we judge him by Jordan standards) who hasn't even won anything yet. Instead of worrying about people checking his "$tats", he should worry about checking his jumper and his will to win a game. Also, check his stats in that game 6 where his team needed a victory and he went scorless in the 2nd quarter and was held to 6pts in the 4th (4pts scored when the game was in the balance). Also basically in 4 out of the 6 games, he was a no show in the 4th overal, so I think Prince James should check those things.
[QUOTE=miles berg]I doubt he is truly worried about it. Everyone and their dog knows that he is the best player in the NBA now that Tim Duncan has taken a step down. There really is no competition for him at the top spot. Duncan, Kobe, CP3, Wade, Dirk, & Dwight are all really great players but LeBron is the best player and he knows it. I mean, he isnt out there playing with Pau Gasol or Paul Pierce as his 2nd options, he has Mo Williams. Huge difference.
Give the guy a sidekick and he would be winning title after title.[/QUOTE]
Yet earlier in the year when things were going well for us and how everyone was saying how we finally had the perfect cast around Lebron you didn't say anything. It's only after we epic failed in the playoffs that his teammates are suddenly inadequate.