PS3 vs. 360 debate. Which to get?

[QUOTE=Pharcyde]Probably because they know 90% of the kids report because you call them a ****** or kill them.
If kids report you enough for the same thing, you get suspended. It's not going to be a one and done thing, because it would get abused.


Also, kind of funny how you made this thread asking why there's debates.... then as soon as someone says anything about their preference of xbox over PS3 you jump argue with them..[/QUOTE]

Suspended just to come back a week later on the same account doing the same hacks/glitches. Anyway...

On to the last point, of course I'm going to question unusual opinions. If I made a topic about why people are constantly comparing Kobe vs. LeBron then someone comes in and say LeBron is a better 3PT shooter, of course I'm going to question it. Also by debating, I didn't necessarily mean comparing pros & cons of each system... I meant mainly attacking the other system, or turning a topic about something completely different into a debate why one system is better. For ex:

OP: Great, the new Gran Turismo 5 is coming out next week! Is anyone else getting it?
Reply: Finally? after 5 yrs? Forza 2 came out 2 yrs ago, and Forza 3 is coming out soon too... that's why the Xbox is so much better.

:wtf:

I wish gran turismo 5 would come out some day....

[QUOTE=beasted86]You do realize Netflix from your home PC/Mac is also $8 a month, right?[/QUOTE]


I thought Netflix was streaming exclusively to the XBox Live.

Since PSN has a browser, you're saying I can just go to the Netflix sight, and stream straight from there onto my tv?

That makes a lot of sense.

[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]I thought Netflix was streaming exclusively to the XBox Live.

Since PSN has a browser, you're saying I can just go to the Netflix sight, and stream straight from there onto my tv?

That makes a lot of sense.[/QUOTE]

I'm fairly certain that's incorrect. The ps3 isn't licensed to use software that the pc and 360(ms) use for streaming. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_DRM"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_DRM[/URL]

Sony isn't going to destroy their current model of the PSN store with netflix compatibility. If this were to happen, the psn would no longer be a free service.

[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]I thought Netflix was streaming exclusively to the XBox Live.

Since PSN has a browser, you're saying I can just go to the Netflix sight, and stream straight from there onto my tv?

That makes a lot of sense.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if it's compatible... but you can definitely stream from your PC to your TV if you have the right video card w/outputs.

[QUOTE=beasted86]I don't know if it's compatible... but you can definitely stream from your PC to your TV if you have the right video card w/outputs.[/QUOTE]

and a few posts ago...

[QUOTE] @ this clown. He thinks I take it personally or care whether HE likes the Playstation or not.

I honestly don't care whether you like it or not. I was just trying to get some well put together opinions in this thread, something you can't seem to do.

Reason I started this topic in the first place was to hear why people like you in general attack either system whether it be 360 or PS3, and turn a general topic about something completely irrelevant about either system into a debate why one is better than the other.[/QUOTE]

You rip on Pain of Thought, but you're clearly redirecting Thorpe to the ps3 with this irrelevant argument. If you bothered to read into his post further than "Netflix...", it would be apparent why the feature looked appealing to him. Same principle as the bundled blu-ray player in the ps3.

Guess what? I can stream blu ray content from my pc too. Blu-ray drives for the pc are cheaper than the ps3! See how I diminished the ps3 with the functionality of a pc? Clever, right?

[QUOTE=beasted86]Suspended just to come back a week later on the same account doing the same hacks/glitches. Anyway...
[/QUOTE]

Again, it gets abused. Kids will continually file a complaint just because they don't like you. If it's a huge problem for you that kids use glitches, which the majority don't (We're not talking 60/40, more like 98/2) then go complain on an e-mail to xbox.

[QUOTE=intrinsic]I'm fairly certain that's incorrect. The ps3 isn't licensed to use software that the pc and 360(ms) use for streaming. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_DRM"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_DRM[/URL]

Sony isn't going to destroy their current model of the PSN store with netflix compatibility. If this were to happen, the psn would no longer be a free service.[/QUOTE]


You can partition the PS hardrive and install another OS. I'm guessing Windows isn't compatible, but you can probably install something that would get you basic webbrowsing, then maybe you could stream straight from the sight.

I really though the Netflix deal was 360 exclusive. But it seems like it would be hard to work around since PS does have internet access. Maybe that's why it hasn't been advertised as hard as I thought it would've been.

I'm confused. I'll have to look into it some.

[URL="http://www.themediamall.com/playon"]http://www.themediamall.com/playon[/URL]

That should be what you're looking for, i think.
[URL="http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/03/playon-media-server-is-out-of-beta-14-days-to-decide-if-netflix/"]http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/03/playon-media-server-is-out-of-beta-14-days-to-decide-if-netflix/[/URL]

[QUOTE=intrinsic]and a few posts ago...



You rip on Pain of Thought, but you're clearly redirecting Thorpe to the ps3 with this irrelevant argument. If you bothered to read into his post further than "Netflix...", it would be apparent why the feature looked appealing to him. Same principle as the bundled blu-ray player in the ps3.

Guess what? I can stream blu ray content from my pc too. Blu-ray drives for the pc are cheaper than the ps3! See how I diminished the ps3 with the functionality of a pc? Clever, right?[/QUOTE]
Exactly... standalone $99 blu-ray + Xbox $199 package = $299 PS3
I have no problem admitting this. Both systems have their selling points that can be offsetted somehow.

I guess until I own both again people wont realize I'm completely unbiased against either of the two. I really have no problem with people who choose a PS3 over a 360 or 360 over a PS3... what I do find funny though is people who already have one system who constantly go out of their way to attack the other system... and mainly out of that select group, really find especially interesting the ones who attack the system without ever having owned one or played consistently on the other system.

Most of the time when people let their bias affect their decision to choose one system over the other, they come out with comments like 'the servers are crappy on the ... in comparison' or 'the graphics are better' or '... system doesn't break as often', etc... mostly uninformed opinions. Really both systems have their advantages and selling points, and you're biased if you can't see that.

I'll be getting the PS3 here very soon (was awaiting the price-drop). I know it's pros and cons, again I have friends who own a PS3 and only a PS3, and they come to my crib to chill and play some 360 from time to time... everyone is in unison that Xbox-Live is light years ahead of the yes Gaystation Network. I've seen the PSN live, used it live, and spent at least a good 12+ hours navigating it, playing live games on it, web browsing it, etc. It's garbage compared to XBL. That's not fanboy talk, that's real talk.

If there was no such things as an Xbox or XBL, and just say Nintendo and Sony in the game, sure the PSN would be cool, if that's the only real option you have. Unfortunately, Microsoft is leaps and bounds ahead in terms of online playability and capability. So yes, I'm going to call it like I see it. XBL > PSN even considering the PSN is free. There's a reason why the PSN is free. I'll just leave it at that.

I'm not a fanboy. Like I said again, of the three console platforms last generation, the XBox was my least favorite.

I've pointed out numerous points as to why the 360 > PS3. Much of this could be considered my own opinion... but surely it's quite evident the exclusive games on 360 > PS3. Surely it's quite evident XBL > PSN. These are the two biggest selling points of the respective systems... which is why 360 > PS3 in terms of market share. The numbers don't lie.

I'll be getting a PS3 for the Blu-Ray player and some exclusive titles. Nothing more, nothing less. Any game with online capability I will be getting the 360 version for obvious reasons.

LOL @ the whole fanboy perspective.

The OP is the one who should be considered the fanboy, not me. Ironic, no?

[QUOTE=Pain of Thought]
LOL @ the whole fanboy perspective.

The OP is the one who should be considered the fanboy, not me. Ironic, no?[/QUOTE]

I like you as a poster and generally agree with your gaming pov. With that said, your posts in this thread have been slanted towards the 360. Does that make you a fanboy? Not really (well maybe a little). Using terminology like "gaystation" doesn't help your case though:oldlol:

[QUOTE=beasted86]Exactly... standalone $99 blu-ray + Xbox $199 package = $299 PS3
I have no problem admitting this. Both systems have their selling points that can be offsetted somehow.

I guess until I own both again people wont realize I'm completely unbiased against either of the two. I really have no problem with people who choose a PS3 over a 360 or 360 over a PS3... what I do find funny though is people who already have one system who constantly go out of their way to attack the other system... and mainly out of that select group, really find especially interesting the ones who attack the system without ever having owned one or played consistently on the other system.

Most of the time when people let their bias affect their decision to choose one system over the other, they come out with comments like 'the servers are crappy on the ... in comparison' or 'the graphics are better' or '... system doesn't break as often', etc... mostly uninformed opinions. Really both systems have their advantages and selling points, and you're biased if you can't see that.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say you're completely unbiased, but your intentions are good. After reading through the thread, I don't think there's any question which console you favor. You know something? There's absolutely nothing wrong with that aside from the unnecessary personal attack on scifi gamers. (stick to criticism of the games, not the ppl who play them)

You haven't deliberately trashed one system to make a point about the other, and that's what this thread was about -- i think.

[QUOTE=intrinsic]I like you as a poster and generally agree with your gaming pov. With that said, your posts in this thread have been slanted towards the 360. Does that make you a fanboy? Not really (well maybe a little). Using terminology like "gaystation" doesn't help your case though:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

This is true... perhaps my Gaystation (to be fair, I only referring to the PSN) claim could be a red flag for homerism, but honestly speaking I have used both systems extensively enough to draw logical conclusions of the victor.

The one true wild-card in all this is the failure rate of the 360. That alone is almost enough to make you jump ship.

I have nothing against the PS3 personally, I just know the 360 experience > PS3. This is of course my opinion... but also take note I've been presenting facts that are practically indisputable (such as which online network is more superior, exclusive titles, etc).

Beasted first posting he is unbiased, but then going on a triple post rampage as soon as the PS3 gets dogged was a fun read.

Dude is like a window pretending to be a brick wall.

[QUOTE=KeylessEntry]I wish gran turismo 5 would come out some day....[/QUOTE]
:roll: I am still waiting for Gran Turismo mobile. I have been waiting since 2005.

I gotta go with 360 all the way!!!!!! but i wa a huge PS2 nerd! i neer wanted to get rid of it but it was worth it for the 360!

[QUOTE=Pain of Thought]This is true... perhaps my Gaystation (to be fair, I only referring to the PSN) claim could be a red flag for homerism, but honestly speaking I have used both systems extensively enough to draw logical conclusions of the victor.

The one true wild-card in all this is the failure rate of the 360. That alone is almost enough to make you jump ship.

I have nothing against the PS3 personally, I just know the 360 experience > PS3. This is of course my opinion... but also take note I've been presenting facts that are practically indisputable (such as which online network is more superior, exclusive titles, etc).[/QUOTE]
So my final question to you would be what online titles have you played on both systems... and of those games what made the same title better on the 360?

If you've played games online on both systems (for example: COD4, or Madden, etc) play out all the pros for the XBL experience which makes it better. Individual games.

This is way off topic, but do any PS3 users here play(or have played) Grand Theft Auto 4 online? I'm curious if it has Free Mode on it. My nephew loves playing the GTA IV free mode on my 360 online and he just got a PS3. I was wondering if the PS3 version also has Free Mode, because if it doesn't, I'll just get him a different game for his birthday.

[QUOTE=Undisputed]This is way off topic, but do any PS3 users here play(or have played) Grand Theft Auto 4 online? I'm curious if it has Free Mode on it. My nephew loves playing the GTA IV free mode on my 360 online and he just got a PS3. I was wondering if the PS3 version also has Free Mode, because if it doesn't, I'll just get him a different game for his birthday.[/QUOTE]
What is free mode?

I only played the online version of GTA4 a couple times (maybe 2-3), but I think they have co-op mode, deathmatch, capture the flag (chains?), etc.. I don't know what else because it's hazy... I traded that game in about 2 weeks after I beat the single player mode wiht no intention of getting into the online modes.

[QUOTE=beasted86]What is free mode?

I only played the online version of GTA4 a couple times (maybe 2-3), but I think they have co-op mode, deathmatch, capture the flag (chains?), etc.. I don't know what else because it's hazy... I traded that game in about 2 weeks after I beat the single player mode wiht no intention of getting into the online modes.[/QUOTE]

Free Mode is an online mode for GTA4 that makes the whole Liberty City your playground with up to 16 players online.

[QUOTE=Undisputed]Free Mode is an online mode for GTA4 that makes the whole Liberty City your playground with up to 16 players online.[/QUOTE]
Well yes, it has online 16 player modes.

PS3 has the best exclusive games, 100% free PSN, better hardware, better operating system, and RELIABLE HARDWARE(something Microsoft knows nothing about, since over 1/3rd of Xbox 360's randomly die for no reason).

List of notable 360 exclusives, past and future(notice the "variety"... yeah):

Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Halo Wars
Gears Of War 2
Forza 2
Forza 3
Crackdown
Crackdown 2
Fable 2
Fable 3
Alan Wake
Banjo And Kazooie: Nuts And Bolts
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes Of Liberty City
Kameo


List of PS3 notable PS3 exclusives, past and future:

Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Resistance
Resistance 2
Ratchet And Clank: Tools Of Destruction
Ratchet And Clank: A Crack In Time
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Demon's Souls
inFamous
Metal Gear Solid 4
The Last Guardian
Heavy Rain
Valkirya Chronicles
God Of War 3
Yakuza 3
Gran Turismo 5
Agent
MAG
Warhawk
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
Mod Nation Racers
MLB:O9
Final Fantasy Versus 13
Heavenly Sword
Twisted Metal PS3

The 360 just has a whole bunch of Halo sequels and a few other good games, but not much coming out for the future. Also note how the 360 doesn't have any games that will go down in history as greatness.

The PS3 on the other hand has one two of the best games of all time, according to game reviewers(Uncharted 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4), and a game that revolutionized creativity on consoles(LittleBigPlanet). And let's note that the PS3 is just getting started. A lot of those games on the PS3 list aren't even out yet, so it still has a lot of the juice in the tank while the 360 is running on empty with only a few exclusives coming out at all in the future.

So yeah, the PS3 wins. Sorry 360 people, but you might want to buy a PS3 if you want to expirence the best gaming has to offer these days.

[QUOTE=wagexslave]
So yeah, the PS3 wins. Sorry 360 people, but [B]you might want to buy a PS3 if you want to expirence the best gaming has to offer these days[/B].[/QUOTE]
No thanks. I'm perfectly content with my X-Box 360 and I am getting the best gaming that's offered these days. The PS3 controller sucks and their exclusives are nothing special to me, except Uncharted 2 because that's a great game. I'll happily pay for my X-Box Live account. Fifty dollars a year for X-Box Live is well worth it and not expensive at all. If $50 seems like a whole lot of money to you, get a job.

Have fun with your PS3.

I don't get whats the point with xbox vs. ps3 debate. you aren't going to change any faboys minds. and even if you do its not like micorsoft or sony is giving you commission :lol

[QUOTE=wagexslave]PS3 has the best exclusive games, 100% free PSN, better hardware, better operating system, and RELIABLE HARDWARE(something Microsoft knows nothing about, since over 1/3rd of Xbox 360's randomly die for no reason).

List of notable 360 exclusives, past and future(notice the "variety"... yeah):

Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Halo Wars
Gears Of War 2
Forza 2
Forza 3
Crackdown
Crackdown 2
Fable 2
Fable 3
Alan Wake
Banjo And Kazooie: Nuts And Bolts
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes Of Liberty City
Kameo


List of PS3 notable PS3 exclusives, past and future:

Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Resistance
Resistance 2
Ratchet And Clank: Tools Of Destruction
Ratchet And Clank: A Crack In Time
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Demon's Souls
inFamous
Metal Gear Solid 4
The Last Guardian
Heavy Rain
Valkirya Chronicles
God Of War 3
Yakuza 3
Gran Turismo 5
Agent
MAG
Warhawk
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
Mod Nation Racers
MLB:O9
Final Fantasy Versus 13
Heavenly Sword
Twisted Metal PS3

The 360 just has a whole bunch of Halo sequels and a few other good games, but not much coming out for the future. Also note how the 360 doesn't have any games that will go down in history as greatness.

The PS3 on the other hand has one two of the best games of all time, according to game reviewers(Uncharted 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4), and a game that revolutionized creativity on consoles(LittleBigPlanet). And let's note that the PS3 is just getting started. A lot of those games on the PS3 list aren't even out yet, so it still has a lot of the juice in the tank while the 360 is running on empty with only a few exclusives coming out at all in the future.

So yeah, the PS3 wins. Sorry 360 people, but you might want to buy a PS3 if you want to expirence the best gaming has to offer these days.[/QUOTE]

im not a sony or xbox fanboy or anything but most of those ps3 titles you posted dont have longevity. yea you can play em for a couple of weeks and beat the game but then what? xbox greatest strength is its online. thats why for cross system online games like mw 2 for example the real competition and online gaming is on xbox. the ps3 is nice to have for single player i guess and to make your living room look nice.

PS3 has easily beaten the 360 since 08 and it looks like it's going to stay that way with titles like:

God of War 3
Final Fantasy Versus
Final Fantasy XIV
Heavy Rain
The Last Guardian
Gran Turismo 5
MAG
etc

The only 360 exclusives I care about are all the RPGs, no variety.

Some AAA PS3 exlusive titles since 08

Metal Gear Solid 4
Killzone 2
Infamous
Uncharted 2
Valkyrie Chronicles

I only play online with 1-2 games so the fact that PS3 online is free is nice. Bluray is a plus too. You can browse the internet and is a media poowerhouse.

Real talk, the ony reason I bought the 360 was for the rpgs.

[QUOTE=Anton Chigurh]im not a sony or xbox fanboy or anything but most of those ps3 titles you posted dont have longevity. yea you can play em for a couple of weeks and beat the game but then what? xbox greatest strength is its online. thats why for cross system online games like mw 2 for example the real competition and online gaming is on xbox. the ps3 is nice to have for single player i guess and to make your living room look nice.[/QUOTE]

:applause: I agree with this and I own a ps3. I only got the ps3 for exlusives like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Demon

why 360 >>> PS3

[img]http://japan.gamespot.com/story_media/20369388/2b001.jpg[/img]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Mushihime-sama_Futari.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.shopncsx.com/images/products/detail/death_smiles_x360_regular.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.akibatoday.com/cms/archives/news/2009/07/02/photo/2008/090702_01.jpg[/img]

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[QUOTE=glidedrxlr22]:applause: I agree with this and I own a ps3. I only got the ps3 for exlusives like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Demon

[QUOTE=wagexslave]PS3 has the best exclusive games, 100% free PSN, better hardware, better operating system, and RELIABLE HARDWARE(something Microsoft knows nothing about, since over 1/3rd of Xbox 360's randomly die for no reason).[/QUOTE]

This sounds awfully familiar... Oh that's right, these arguments were made in support of the original xbox vs ps2. Funny how that works


[QUOTE]List of notable 360 exclusives, past and future(notice the "variety"... yeah):

Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Halo Wars
Gears Of War 2
Forza 2
Forza 3
Crackdown
Crackdown 2
Fable 2
Fable 3
Alan Wake
Banjo And Kazooie: Nuts And Bolts
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes Of Liberty City
Kameo


List of PS3 notable PS3 exclusives, past and future:

Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Resistance
Resistance 2
Ratchet And Clank: Tools Of Destruction
Ratchet And Clank: A Crack In Time
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Demon's Souls
inFamous
Metal Gear Solid 4
The Last Guardian
Heavy Rain
Valkirya Chronicles
God Of War 3
Yakuza 3
Gran Turismo 5
Agent
MAG
Warhawk
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
Mod Nation Racers
MLB:O9
Final Fantasy Versus 13
Heavenly Sword
Twisted Metal PS3

The 360 just has a whole bunch of Halo sequels and a few other good games, but not much coming out for the future. Also note how the 360 doesn't have any games that will go down in history as greatness. [/QUOTE]

Hi, we are Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead. You may have missed the 2 threads dedicated to these titles on the front page of this forum.

[QUOTE]The PS3 on the other hand has one two of the best games of all time, [B]according to game reviewers[/B](Uncharted 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4), and a game that revolutionized creativity on consoles(LittleBigPlanet). And let's note that the PS3 is just getting started. A lot of those games on the PS3 list aren't even out yet, so it still has a lot of the juice in the tank while the 360 is running on empty with only a few exclusives coming out at all in the future.

So yeah, the PS3 wins. Sorry 360 people, but you might want to buy a PS3 if you want to expirence the best gaming has to offer these days.[/QUOTE]


Bold: It's a well known fact game reviews are bought. Both good games, but saying for certain they are two of the best games of all time is a matter of opinion.

I like the part about the ps3 just getting started though. How long have you been waiting on GT5?

The best advice is what SonicR has repeated in these threads. Whatever system your friends use is the one you're going to enjoy the most. Single player offline content is dying on the console.

:oldlol: just read this whole thread, the idiotic statements from LoJ are hilarious.

"360 has better first party games"

:roll: how can you even argue this? the strength in the xbox is the 3rd party support, and online multiplayer

[QUOTE=wagexslave]PS3 has the best exclusive games, 100% free PSN, better hardware, better operating system, and RELIABLE HARDWARE(something Microsoft knows nothing about, since over 1/3rd of Xbox 360's randomly die for no reason).

List of notable 360 exclusives, past and future(notice the "variety"... yeah):

Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Halo Wars
Gears Of War 2
Forza 2
Forza 3
Crackdown
Crackdown 2
Fable 2
Fable 3
Alan Wake
Banjo And Kazooie: Nuts And Bolts
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes Of Liberty City
Kameo




So yeah, the PS3 wins. Sorry 360 people, but you might want to buy a PS3 if you want to expirence the best gaming has to offer these days.[/QUOTE]

uhhhhh, i think you forgot a few:

dead rising
gears of war
shadow complex
mass effect
mass effect 2
lost odyssey
blue dragon
left 4 dead
left 4 dead 2

talk about a blatant fanboy....

the whole "exclusive titles" argument is a wash. both consoles have plenty of great exclusives and if you are saying that one set is better than the other you are basically just a fanboy.

360

[QUOTE=lazerface]uhhhhh, i think you forgot a few:

dead rising
gears of war
mass effect
mass effect 2
lost odyssey
left 4 dead
left 4 dead 2

talk about a blatant fanboy....[/QUOTE]

these don't count due to the fact they are also on the pc

[QUOTE=Al Thornton]these don't count due to the fact they are also on the pc[/QUOTE]

Lost Odyssey is on pc?

[QUOTE=Al Thornton]these don't count due to the fact they are also on the pc[/QUOTE]

But not Playstation 3. Of course they count.

I've had a 360, and I got a PS3 for Christmas...

I like the PS3 soo much better. My xbox broke, which was really frustrating, but it's not what makes the PS3 better for me. The PS3 just seems like a more grown-up system. The start menu looks so much cleaner and classy, plus free wireless online play. The only thing that sucks, is that I still have to buy a mic, also I don't get a few cool games.

[QUOTE=Sonic R]Lost Odyssey is on pc?[/QUOTE]

pretty sure

[QUOTE=Undisputed]But not Playstation 3. Of course they count.[/QUOTE]

if you're talking strictly exclusives you can't call them that, but I see what you're saying as far as a debate between the two