Ten Most Important People in Hip-Hop History?

Jackass going apeshit mode. LOL. Sorry, you redneck cracker white trash beech, stay out of these debates - you Wu Tang wi66er worshipin' yet think you know something about this shit wnen you just don't Mfer.

Just fall back...

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]Jackass going apeshit mode. LOL. Sorry, you redneck cracker white trash beech, stay out of these debates - you Wu Tang wi66er worshipin' yet think you know something about this shit wnen you just don't Mfer.

Just fall back...[/QUOTE]


zing!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tHqsuY7R00[/url]

[QUOTE=Ass Dan]zing!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tHqsuY7R00[/url][/QUOTE]

OK... now I know you J ...

LOL, nice find.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]No order ...


-Russell Simmons
-Run-DMC
-NWA (Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Eazy-E)
-The Fresh Prince/Will Smith
-Queen Latifah
-Tupac Shakur
-Puff Daddy
-Master P
-Jay-Z
-James Brown and George Clinton


Anyone agree?[/QUOTE]
Not at all.

KRS-One
Grandmaster Flash
Rakim
Grand Wizzard Theodore
RUN DMC
Russell Simmons
Kool Herc
Afrika Bambaataa
2Pac
Rock Steady Crew (Crazy Legs)


*Special shout out to James Brown

[QUOTE=SEEBASS1234]You can't have Tupac without having Biggie mentioned[/QUOTE]
I have .Diddy so his whole Bad Boy camp goes along with it. But I don't think I hae Suge on the list.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]Not at all.

KRS-One
Grandmaster Flash
Rakim
Grand Wizzard Theodore
RUN DMC
Russell Simmons
Kool Herc (yeah him too)
[SIZE="6"][B]Afrika Bambaataa[/B][/SIZE]
2Pac
Rock Steady Crew (Crazy Legs)


*Special shout out to James Brown[/QUOTE]

I can respect that.

:cheers:

[QUOTE=Al Thornton]groups = people?

:oldlol: no Rakim? The most influential MC of all time?[/QUOTE]

I've arrived at the conclusion Lkizzle is a poor man's Rasheed1's opinion in these type of threads. Kid is off his rocker.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]Not at all.

KRS-One
Grandmaster Flash
Rakim
Grand Wizzard Theodore
RUN DMC
Russell Simmons
Kool Herc
Afrika Bambaataa
2Pac
Rock Steady Crew (Crazy Legs)


*Special shout out to James Brown[/QUOTE]
I feel your list but most of them are pioneers. Kool Herc and Theodore, no one has Joe Fulks or Bob Davies in a top ten NBA list. Now Bambaataa and Flash yeah.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]I didn't know what to put, I was gonna put artist, but Russ Simmons isn't an artist ...[/QUOTE]

*edited*

Still no KRS to be found... Dunn101 (or whatever that cats name was?) is that you?

The dude who only post here like once a year these days about music? LOL, that is straight up LKizzle here in this thread.

I am so dissapoint.

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]*edited*

Still no KRS to be found... Dunn101 (or whatever that cats name was?) is that you?

The dude who only post here like once a year these days about music? LOL, that is straight up LKizzle here in this thread.

I am so dissapoint.[/QUOTE]
Lol the dude that makes thos threads about Ashanti vs Aretha Franklin, naw son.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]I feel your list but most of them are pioneers. Kool Herc and Theodore, no one has Joe Fulks or Bob Davies in a top ten NBA list. Now Bambaataa and Flash yeah.[/QUOTE]


My man, Herc influenced people to put break beats in their song.

You said important names.

Check him out:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dj_kool_herc[/url]

And Wizzard Theodore is credited with creating "scratching" you gotta put him on there. I think Grandmaster Flash is the most important DJ so he has to be on there as well.

DJ's don't get enough respect in hip-hop imo.

OP has yet to acknowledge KRS ... surefire /thread from the start. No real head will argue KRS or Rakim GOAT, but they will damn sho mention them in the 'importance' ... 'influetial' ... 'significance' dept.

Yet... OP did none of the above. Yikes. Rap muisic opinion stock value drops mega i-LL points.

Damn.

:facepalm

KRS 1 and Rakim and Kane are all important to this hip hop world, I never said they were not. If we add those names adKool Herc, who drops out? NWA, Will Smith, queen Latifah, Diddy?

People fail to acknowledge the b-boys much..Rock Steady Crew has taken break dancing (and with it hip-hop) global.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]KRS 1 and Rakim and Kane are all important to this hip hop world, I never said they were not. If we add those names adKool Herc, who drops out? NWA, Will Smith, queen Latifah, Diddy?[/QUOTE]

Diddy is influential but in the grand scheme of hip-hop is he important? Where is he really without the Biggie?

Will Smith and Queen Latifah are big names as well and I can't knock you for choosing them I just think that the people who were blessed to be there first and actually [I]create[/I] styles and conventions are [I]most[/I] important.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]Diddy is influential but in the grand scheme of hip-hop is he important? Where is he really without the Biggie?

Will Smith and Queen Latifah are big names as well and I can't knock you for choosing them I just think that the people who were blessed to be there first and actually [I]create[/I] styles and conventions are [I]most[/I] important.[/QUOTE]
You mean where would Big be without Diddy right? Diddy already made a name for himself with Uptown Records. And I feel you on the creators but if we go that rout the top ten would be included with names all before 1984 right?

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]No order ...


-Russell Simmons
-Run-DMC
-NWA (Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Eazy-E)
-The Fresh Prince/Will Smith
-Queen Latifah
-Tupac Shakur
-Puff Daddy
-Master P
-Jay-Z
-James Brown and George Clinton


Anyone agree?[/QUOTE]

Wow... just wow. I understand if some may not consider Eminem a GOAT MC but to leave him off a top 10 most important list is insane! Even guys like Rakim have spoken about the impact he's had on the game. The bridge he's created for whites to find hip hop. He's BY FAR the most IMPORTANT rapper of all time if you talk about the impact he had on the game and how he changed perception and the fanbase. Only close rapper is Tupac. Can't believe you have Master P, P Diddy Queen Latifah on the list etc. What a joke.

[QUOTE=talkingconch]DJ Kool Herc
Beastie Boys
RUN-DMC
2pac
NAS
Biggie
the roots
NWA
RAKIM
Eminem

..there's too many to list[/QUOTE]

MUCH more respectable list :cheers: . Top 10 is always debatable but at least half of your list is undisputed. Can't believe a list had Latifah, Master P in the place of greats like NAS, Eminem, KRS and Rakim.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]You mean where would Big be without Diddy right?[/QUOTE]

+1

Diddy could have made someone else into biggie.

Also, raekwon should get a hon mention for launching the don style biggie and others copied, which dominated the scene for a while.

[QUOTE=FourthTenor]+1

Diddy could have made someone else into biggie.

Also, raekwon should get a hon mention for launching the don style biggie and others copied, which dominated the scene for a while.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Raekwon deserving a mention but saying Diddy could of make someone else Biggie is complete BULLSH**! You guys got it twisted. BIG made Puff, not the other way around. He really put Bad Boys on the map.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hbwdAOogBw[/url]

Was before he was signed dude. He's got God given talent and is a GOAT level rapper and you want to give the credit to Puff when Biggie was ripping people up in his teens? It's sad and makes me wonder if you get all of your information from MTV.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]MUCH more respectable list :cheers: . Top 10 is always debatable but at least half of your list is undisputed. Can't believe a list had Latifah, Master P in the place of greats like NAS, Eminem, KRS and Rakim.[/QUOTE]
Dude has 9 MCs and a DJ. Might as well be a top ten MC list. Em should be on the list tho.

All lists not mentioning Too $hort fail

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]No order ...


-Russell Simmons
-Run-DMC
-NWA (Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Eazy-E)
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"]-The Fresh Prince/Will Smith[/COLOR]
-Queen Latifah
-Tupac Shakur
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"]-Puff Daddy[/COLOR]
-Master P
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"]-Jay-Z[/COLOR]
-James Brown and George Clinton


Anyone agree?[/QUOTE]
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Rick Rueben with Russell Simmons which should be attached to Run DMC, Ice T (NWA), Real Roxanne (Salt N Peppa/MC Lyte), LL, GrandMaster Flash, I would put Jazzy Jeff (who influenced more hip hop dj's than fresh prince/will smith did for anyone in hiphop on here before Fresh Prince, Rakim Allah/Krs-1[/COLOR][/B]

top 10?

1.Run DMC
2.Rakim
3.Grand Master Flash
4.Russell Simmons
5.Rick Rubin
6.Puff Daddy
7.Dr.Dre
8.Easy E
9.Dj Red Alert
10.Dj Marly Marl


^each one of them dudes did something or were involved in something that changed the whole game...big shifts happened when these guys were successful

I think it is easier to name events then singular people

honorable mention

*Queen Latifah
*Chuck D - Public Enemy
*Tribe called quest
*BDK
*Biggie
*2pac
*Nas
*JayZ
*WuTang
*IceT
*Geto Boys
*Uncle Luke
*Dj Cash Money
*Dj Jazzy Jeff

how about the worst hip hop artists

*Vanilla Ice
*PM Dawn
*soulja boy
*whoever invented that f*cking auto tune bullsh*t


I'll think of more in a minute

[QUOTE=moe94]Thread should have been deleted at the first mention of Diddy making BIG. Why couldn't he make another BIG? He tried. Shyne. It worked out horribly. Since then, his artists have failed time and time again. Diddy ate off BIG and that's the end of that.:facepalm[/QUOTE]

Truth. Exactly dude. BIG made Diddy, not the other way around. If there was no BIG Bad Boy wouldn't of risen to the level it was in the 90's and early 00's PERIOD.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Truth. Exactly dude. BIG made Diddy, not the other way around. If there was no BIG Bad Boy wouldn't of risen to the level it was in the 90's and early 00's PERIOD.[/QUOTE]
Puff already had a career producing for Mary J, Jodeci and doin other things with Heavy D, Craig Mack ect

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]Puff already had a career producing for Mary J, Jodeci and doin other things with Heavy D, Craig Mack ect[/QUOTE]


exactly... puff was already known for other groups and was a rising star with Uptown before he ever met Biggie...

Mary J was huge when she came out and biggie used small spots with her to heard initially

[QUOTE=moe94]You guys are missing the point. Diddy had a career, sure, but Biggie turned him into THAT guy. Talents like BIG would have been heard regardless of anything. If Diddy passed him, someoned else would have jumped on it quick. It's like you think Eminem would have been nothing without Dre. If someone stumbles upon bag full of cash, it's not like they had anything to do with it being there. They just take it and run with it and thank god every chance they get.[/QUOTE]


Biggie was a loud yelling battle rapper when he came out... His lyrics were nice but he wasnt polished at all and he didnt become polished until Puff worked with him and helped him carve a style that better fit his talent...

you can assume Biggie would have been big anyway if you want to, but that isnt what happened... Puff deserves credit for what he did...

[QUOTE=moe94]You guys are missing the point. Diddy had a career, sure, but Biggie turned him into THAT guy. Talents like BIG would have been heard regardless of anything. If Diddy passed him, someoned else would have jumped on it quick. It's like you think Eminem would have been nothing without Dre. If someone stumbles upon bag full of cash, it's not like they had anything to do with it being there. They just take it and run with it and thank god every chance they get.[/QUOTE]
Mary J made him into THAT GUY. Look up "What's the 411."

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]Jackass going apeshit mode. LOL. Sorry, you redneck cracker white trash beech, stay out of these debates - you Wu Tang wi66er worshipin' yet think you know something about this shit wnen you just don't Mfer.

Just fall back...[/QUOTE]

If that's all you got, then you need to just retire. Acting like a retarded 16 year old on the Internet is what's cool these days, nahmean? Redneck? You biting ignorance from Starface now?

This emo thinks it's cool to try and get everyone to hate him when it's just kind of sad. Don't worry, I don't hate ya. Try harder?

[B]Sean "Puffy" Combs[/B]


[B]Mary J Blige: What's The 411 - 1992[/B]
Topped the R&B/Hip Hop charts / Number 6 Pop

[B]Notorious B.I.G.: Ready To Die - 1994[/B]
Number 3 R&B/Hip-Hop charts / Number 15 Pop


Biggie made Puffy??

When did people really know about Puffy?

[QUOTE=Jackass18]When did people really know about Puffy?[/QUOTE]
Since 1991. He had a hand in Jodeci and bringing Mary J to Uptown Records (who he was a record exec for.) Did lots of stuff with Heavy D and other Uptown Artist in the early 90s.

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Biggie was a loud yelling battle rapper when he came out... His lyrics were nice but he wasnt polished at all and he didnt become polished until Puff worked with him and helped him carve a style that better fit his talent...

you can assume Biggie would have been big anyway if you want to, but that isnt what happened... Puff deserves credit for what he did...[/QUOTE]

That's ridiculous. Sure Puff deserves a little credit... but NOT as much as Biggie himself.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]That's ridiculous. Sure Puff deserves a little credit... but NOT as much as Biggie himself.[/QUOTE]

whats your point? that somehow Puff doesnt belong? he's the one who got Biggie to stop hustling and take this rap sh*t serious... Puff and biggie together created a formula for alot of groups that followed in the future...

Rappers wasnt talking about poppin crystal and being a don king of new york type before these 2.. Biggie and puff were a team and you cant really slight puff when giving Biggie credit..

puff was the one who had biggie doing joints like 'one more chance' and 'juicy'.. a rapper like biggie blowing with those type songs is a big part of the reason people had so much respect for him...

I just think its silly to try and say puffy didnt have big hand in developing biggie to become what he did....


biggie's talent was always there..Im a big biggie fan.. but Puff helped him mold into the goat rapper he became ... you can even hear the difference in the songs on ready to die.... some songs like 'gimme the loot' he was yellin and real giving off the regular MC vibe at that time... but on other songs throughout the album you could hear his delivery changing... he even talked about puff influence on him his self..


nobody is saying he deserves more credit for big's talent than big... but to anyone who remembers, puff did alot more work than just biggie

diddy got nice shades, sprinkles a few good lines here and there, then goes off to sell suits or cologne

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wiz khalifa
drizzy
tyga
mac miller

ahaha jk trollin :pimp:

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]Since 1991. He had a hand in Jodeci and bringing Mary J to Uptown Records (who he was a record exec for.) Did lots of stuff with Heavy D and other Uptown Artist in the early 90s.[/QUOTE]

I'm talking about listeners. He seemed to be in the background for a while and then later came out in the forefront later on.