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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=adamcz]Paul put up 16.1 ppg (43%), 7.8 apg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 spg
Lebron put up 20.9 ppg (42%), 5.9 apg, 5.5 rpg, 1.6 spg
Jennings so far 25.5 ppg (48%), 5.5 apg, 4.3 rpg, 1.1 spg
His stats are right in that same tier with the superstars, and the competition is a lot different. Jennings doesn't have to beat Lebron or CP3 in any way - he has to beat Rondo, Rose, Arenas, VC.[/QUOTE]
Please name the last rookie to make the All-Star team.
The OP isn't asking whether or not Jennings would deserve it. He is asking whether or not he will actually make it. I don't think so simply because he is a rookie.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
So you don't think he's a legit 25 ppg scorer? Defenses focus in on guys like Michael Redd, Kevin Martin, Jamal Crawford, Ben Gordon... there are lots of non-superstars who can put up those type of points even with the defense well aware of their tendancies. Why isn't Jennings one of those players?
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=adamcz]Paul put up 16.1 ppg (43%), 7.8 apg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 spg
Lebron put up 20.9 ppg (42%), 5.9 apg, 5.5 rpg, 1.6 spg
Jennings so far 25.5 ppg (48%), 5.5 apg, 4.3 rpg, 1.1 spg
His stats are right in that same tier with the superstars, and the competition is a lot different. Jennings doesn't have to beat Lebron or CP3 in any way - he has to beat Rondo, Rose, Arenas, VC.[/QUOTE]
Do you really believe that Jennings' numbers are going to look like that at the end of the season?
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Let's not forget Redd coming back which is sure to take away some of Jennings shot attempts.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=tontoz]Please name the last rookie to make the All-Star team.[/QUOTE]
Why? No rookies from other years are going to time travel to the present to compete with Jennings for the 2010 eastern conference backup guard spot. The only important question is who deserves the spot more amongst Jennings, Arenas, Rose, Rondo, Nelson, Carter, Allen, Johnson.
Really doesn't matter what Lebron, or Paul, or Stockton, or Bob Cousy did as rookies.
I bet you the coaches of the Warriors and Nuggets are going to think long and hard about giving him a vote already. Maybe the list will keep growing.
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[QUOTE=Knicks101]Do you really believe that Jennings' numbers are going to look like that at the end of the season?[/QUOTE]
Of course not....they'll be better than that!!!!
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=adamcz]Why? No rookies from other years are going to time travel to the present to compete with Jennings for the 2010 eastern conference backup guard spot. The only important question is who deserves the spot more amongst Jennings, Arenas, Rose, Rondo, Nelson, Carter, Allen, Johnson.
Really doesn't matter what Lebron, or Paul, or Stockton, or Bob Cousy did as rookies.
I bet you the coaches of the Warriors and Nuggets are going to think long and hard about giving him a vote already. Maybe the list will keep growing.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think that the only issue at hand here is whether or not he deserves it?
Ever heard of rookies not getting the benefit of calls? Ever heard of rookies being forced to do embarrasing things by the team simply because they are rookies?
If he was a second year player then it would be just a question of merit but he isn't a second year player.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]Of course not....they'll be better than that!!!![/QUOTE]
How much better? Give me his stats.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
If Jennings continues to play at this level, it would be too hard to ignore, rookie or not. I doubt he would get voted in by the fans though. That would probably go to VC and D-Wade.
When LBJ was a rookie he was putting up good stats but out of the guards that got voted by the coaches(which LBJ was initially), they generally did better than the rookie LBJ. Baron was playing well, it was Michael Redd's career year and don't have to explain J-Kidd. And LBJ struggled initially when he first came into the NBA because Paul Silas played him at PG and he kept getting burnt on defence, especially at PG. e was a mediocre defender back then if you don't know. LBJ did much better after the all star break, particularly since he got moved to SG and hence achieving 20-5-5 by season's end. There was a much bigger fuss though about Kirilenko getting picked over rookie Carmelo.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=tontoz]You are the only idiot here. Just because you don't have the mental capacity to understand that coaches are highly unlikely to pick a rookie for the All-Star game doesn't mean that isn't the truth.
Lebron averaged 21 ppg, 5.5 rebounds and 6 assists his rookie year and didn't get in.
You probably aren't aware than Jennings hot start also means defense will be paying a little more attention to him after his 55 pt game, making it harder to maintain his average.[/QUOTE]
No, you're the idiot. What the hell does LeBron James, Chris Paul or any other star that didn't make the allstar in their rookie season have to with Brandon Jennings? Huh moron? LeBron James wasn't the best SF in the eastern conference during his rookie season. Paul wasn't the best PG in the WC either. Jennings is putting up some of the best numbers in the league, let alone any eastern conference PG. Your point is moot.
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[QUOTE=tontoz]Do you really think that the only issue at hand here is whether or not he deserves it?
Ever heard of rookies not getting the benefit of calls? Ever heard of rookies being forced to do embarrasing things by the team simply because they are rookies?
If he was a second year player then it would be just a question of merit but he isn't a second year player.[/QUOTE]
One of the stupidest posts I've ever read on ISH.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=dallaslonghorn]Keep in mind ... there have been 10-12 games so far this season. So really it's to early to tell. Teams are just getting correct scouting reports on this guy.
Does he DESERVE to make it if we were doing All-Stars for this early in the season? Yes. WILL he end up making it in February? Maybe, that depends a lot on politics and which teams have the most wins, since coaches seem wedded to the idea of rewarding good teams w/absurd picks (see Mo Williams last year).
After watching him play the Mavs last night, he reminds me a lot of Steve Nash. He's a great shooter who can pull-up or shoot a floater in the lane at will, yet he hardly ever forces the action and looks to get his teammates involved. Really at 20 years old the only holes in his game are on defense, some of which will be fixed through experience, some of which will haunt him his whole career (small and slight frame).[/QUOTE]
bucks have only played in 8 games
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=tontoz]Please name the last rookie to make the All-Star team.[/QUOTE]
Please name the last rookie to score 55 points in a game.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
At this rate hes playing ..why not? Especially if at the break the Bucks are in playoff contention than he should defenitely be in the ASG
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=B-Diddy=2Easy]One of the stupidest posts I've ever read on ISH.[/QUOTE]
you are obviously an idiot. if you don't have the mental capacity to understand that there is a bias against picking rookies for the All-Star team then that is your problem, not mine. Do you really think All-Stars are picked solely on credentials? :oldlol:
Not only is there a bias against rookies there is also a bias against first timers. It is obvious that you need to have much better credentials to make the All-Star team the first time than to be a returning All-Star. Just look at how hard it was for Melo to make it the first time.
However there have been so many cases of underserving returning All-Stars it is a joke. I am a Hawks fan and JJ is my favorite player but i was stunned when he made it last year since he was in a major slump.
I would have no problem with it if Jennings did make it but i think it is far more likely that an underserving veteran would make it over a deserving rookie. I think Mo Williams has a far better chance of making it than Jennings because he has made it before.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
As far as i can tell the last rookie to make the All-Star team was Tim Duncan.
The closest comparison to Jennings would be Iverson. he averaged 23.5/7.5 in his rookie year and didn't make the All-Star team. However Joe Dumars did averaging 14.7/4.0. And lets not forget the immortal Terrell Brandon.
BDiddy do you think Brandon and Dumars deserved to make it over Iverson?
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
wow 8 games and the guy is already talked about as an ALL-STAR great :wtf:
[B][SIZE="5"]8 GAMES[/SIZE][/B]
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[QUOTE=Knicks101]How much better? Give me his stats.[/QUOTE]
I was obviously being sarcastic...but as you wish.
28/7/6
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[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]I was obviously being sarcastic...but as you wish.
28/7/6[/QUOTE]
I know that you were being sarcastic. I expected you to say 40/15/13.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=Jasper]wow 8 games and the guy is already talked about as an ALL-STAR great :wtf:
[B][SIZE="5"]8 GAMES[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]
Well, the voting has started already.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
definitely false
he will become an all-star but not in his rookie season
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]Well, the voting has started already.[/QUOTE]
rookie all-star team , that is it.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
Anyone still want to vote true? :oldlol:
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
This must be another one of those old dead threads that got stuck over here from the general board.
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Re: True or False: Brandon Jennings 2010 All-Star
[QUOTE=tontoz]Anyone still want to vote true? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
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