[QUOTE=kap]looks like he's literally taking a **** on the kobster[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=kap]looks like he's literally taking a **** on the kobster[/QUOTE]
:lol
[QUOTE=TMac&Luther]What the hell does Posey have to do with this.....um Battier was on that team too :hammerhead: But let me guess, that glue guy gets props, but Battier is just a bum. Must be, because Posey dunks huh?
Also Gasol played 60 games during that train wreck of a season.....still doesn't explain having the worst record in the league after being in the playoffs the year before. If Rudy Gay was half as good as you're trying to make him, his talent would've picked up the other 20 games.
Rudy Gay puts up empty #s.......THOSE PLAYERS are easy to find. I haven't regretted that trade one single day since it happened. Rudy Gay is not a winner, he's Tmac with healthy - the elite scoring ability. All flash, no substance. Who the fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]k cares about a player who puts up empty stats on a s[COLOR="Black"]h[/COLOR]itty team year in and year out? I'll take the "stiff" that plays on a winning team year in and year out, even if he goes unnoticed by people who act like you have to be able to dunk a ball to be good in this league.
I could really care less about Rudy Gay.....honestly, you would've been better served bringing up any player except him. I have never liked that guy....he's a natural born loser.[/QUOTE]
dude Rudy is in his 3rd year. Rockets have more veteran talent than Memphis. Gay is playing with Mayo, Conley, Gasol and Thabeek all young players and they are pretty competitve right now for a young team.
so how many wins does Battier add to that 22 win team? hmm
Rudy is relevant because that's who he was traded for.
I brought up Posey because he was more crucial to that team than Shane.
hey cool if Shane's your guy, I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=kap]looks like he's literally taking a **** on the kobster[/QUOTE]
Kobe's not even paying attention as if play has stopped.
championship caliber glue guys:
Rick Fox
Ron Harper (in his later years)
Gary Payton
James Posey
Tayshaun Prince
Michael Cooper
Joe Dumars
Bobby Jones
Bruce Bowen
Dennis Johnson
Don Chaney
Dennis Rodman
Scottie Pippen (glue and then some)
Maurice Cheeks
Walt Frazier (great on both ends)
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Still doesn't negate the fact that I haven't been infactuated with everything "dunk" related since I was six, seven, and MAYBE eight years old.
It's such a miniscule aspect to the game.[/QUOTE]
I agree that Shane Battier is a pretty darn good player considering his role and I agree it's not necessary by any means that he dunk to justify his ability.
However, I must admit that I am much older than eight and I still absolutely love the dunk. For me, it's one of my favorite moments in all of sports and a big part of what makes basketball so entertaining.
[QUOTE=HighFlyer23]don't got a vid but here's a pic
[img]http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Houston+Rockets+v+Los+Angeles+Lakers+Game+-qkLLLTMalul.jpg[/img]
another 1
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:lol
Kobe's like "Dayum! That cracker can dunk?!?"
Well, in all seriousness, yes, he can, as answered by a lot of the other posters here. When you're 6'8 and have a standing reach of 8'9, you don't need too much vert to be able to dunk the ball in. Dunking is said to be pretty tiring, although with all the people he's tasked to defend, I doubt he's too tired. It's probably just not his style to do so.
I'm used to seeing Kobe hate, Lebron hate, Dwight hate, Nash hate, KG hate, etc. on here, but... freaking Shane Battier? Of all the players in the league, you decide to hate on one of the most likable players currently playing. This one just puzzles me.
[QUOTE=Apocalyptic0n3]I'm used to seeing Kobe hate, Lebron hate, Dwight hate, Nash hate, KG hate, etc. on here, but... freaking Shane Battier? Of all the players in the league, you decide to hate on one of the most likable players currently playing. This one just puzzles me.[/QUOTE]
yeah you're right. my bad. he's mr. nice guy. mr. hustle yada yada.
those guys are future HOFers BTW. not to be mentioned in the same breath. even AC Green yoked one every now and then. and he was virgin. geesh.
found this on youtube:
zaleenbaba (8 months ago)
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i didn't know that he can dunk. he doesn't do that in the nba
anyway this started for me when I heard he was another Grant Hill. I kept watching and waiting and realized this guy couldn't hold G. Hill's jockstrap.
I know he "can" dunk but refuses to go in hard on PFs and Cs or anyone. I just want him to pull one back and put his nuts in somebody's face JUST ONCE!
[QUOTE=NotYetGreat]Kobe's like "Dayum! That cracker can dunk?!?"[/QUOTE]
When Battier can't dunk, he's white.
When Battier's a great defender, he's black.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget
I think this should put the debates regarding his athleticism and his dunking ability to rest:
via [URL="http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062301aac.html"]http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062301aac.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]"Shane has gotten better in his career and he will continue to get better on using the dribble to get shots," Drum added. [B]"There is some rap about what kind of athlete he is. Well, he's not a Vince Carter or a Corey Maggette type of athlete, but he's good enough and he's better than a lot of athletes in this league." [/B]
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[B]Battier's individual workouts may have changed the opinions of some general managers. In Atlanta, Battier beat Michigan State underclassman Jason Richardson in a "Superman" drill, dunking the ball 70 straight times without missing or quitting. [/B]
At the other end of the court, Richardson dunked 63 times before falling to the floor from exhaustion.
[B]"I could have kept going but I messed up my footing and missed a dunk," Battier said. "After that I turned to the GM and said, `I guess I'm a little more athletic than you thought, huh?' He smiled and walked away." [/B]
The feat "doesn't surprise me at all," Drum said. "In a lot of ways that's not pure athleticism, it's that mentally he is tougher and more prepared than anyone in this draft."
[/QUOTE]
Granted this was done around 2001, but considering that he hasn't suffered any major injuries, he couldn't have fallen off too hard...
So the answer is yes.
I've seen Shane Battier block Brandon Roy from behind when Roy had the ball above the rim.
I would be anything that he can dunk.
[QUOTE=allball]Outstanding? dude he hasn't averaged more than 10 a game since his rookie year. he shot .410 last year and is shooting .400 this year. he's an 8 PPG 4 reb playoff performer for his career.
the Rockets gave up Rudy Gay for this stiff who is a good defender but doesn't do nearly enough to be called outstanding.
Scottie Pippen was outstanding. Grant Hill was outstanding. Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis are very good. Shane is the definition of an average role player. yeah he plays d but this guy was a college player of the year and a number 6 pick.
a 6'8" wing who won't throw it down for his team cause it's not his style? that's a disgrace.[/QUOTE]
Stupidest thing I've read all day.
You had (maybe) valid points for most of that post, but the last line is basically "he's a disgrace because he doesn't dunk"
how is he a disgrace for not dunking?
I never would have guessed that even a quiet, professional player like Battier has haters.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]I never would have guessed that even a quiet, professional player like Battier has haters.[/QUOTE]
As long as there are children who follow the NBA, it will happen.
One other thing is that dunking also takes more energy, -wasted- energy, to dunk unnecessarily. And let's face it, many dunks are unnecessary but they're still spectacular displays of athleticism to enjoy. But why waste your legs trying to dunk when you've got to chase around your opponent's best scorer all night? That's not his job. He doesn't have anything to prove, he doesn't get caught up in juvenile ego and headgames, he's not concerned with padding stats or getting on posters, he just plays to win. It's not flashy, it's not pretty, it doesn't fill up the stat sheet, but he also isn't a detriment to his own team. Every team needs a guy like Battier. He's an intelligent, hard working, easy to please glue guy, what team wouldn't want him?
I guess I could write another 10,000 words about how pathetic, ignorant and clueless it is to equate dunking and scoring with being a great NBA player, and to eschew both means you suck, regardless of how good you are at other things or how important you are to team chemistry and winning. But even the majority of people here on ISH already know this and supports this point of view. We all recognize that it is an immature, juvenile point of view that will evolve and eventually mature with time and experience.
OP is right. I mean WTF is Shane doing in the league. Cant dunk, cant create his own shot, never has averaged double digits points in a season. Heck, Gerald fuc king green is easily a better player than Shane. Forget that bull**** hand in the face crap that doesnt work, at the end of the day people want to see highlights. Highlights=winning games.
Houston without Shane= 20 win season
Houston with Shane = 40 win season.
:violin:
[QUOTE=ZOMG]When Battier can't dunk, he's white.
When Battier's a great defender, he's black.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Yessir!
........
Okay, you got me there. :roll:
[QUOTE=JalenRawley]As long as there are children who follow the NBA, it will happen.
One other thing is that dunking also takes more energy, -wasted- energy, to dunk unnecessarily. And let's face it, many dunks are unnecessary but they're still spectacular displays of athleticism to enjoy. But why waste your legs trying to dunk when you've got to chase around your opponent's best scorer all night? That's not his job. He doesn't have anything to prove, he doesn't get caught up in juvenile ego and headgames, he's not concerned with padding stats or getting on posters, he just plays to win. It's not flashy, it's not pretty, it doesn't fill up the stat sheet, but he also isn't a detriment to his own team. Every team needs a guy like Battier. He's an intelligent, hard working, easy to please glue guy, what team wouldn't want him?
I guess I could write another 10,000 words about how pathetic, ignorant and clueless it is to equate dunking and scoring with being a great NBA player, and to eschew both means you suck, regardless of how good you are at other things or how important you are to team chemistry and winning. But even the majority of people here on ISH already know this and supports this point of view. We all recognize that it is an immature, juvenile point of view that will evolve and eventually mature with time and experience.[/QUOTE]
Juvenile? hardly. been watching this game a LONG time and never seen a guy with Shane's length and body type who won't throw it down hard on a big. show me where nice 6' 8" guys that don't dunk (including defensive stoppers) win ships in this league. I appreciate intangibles as much as the next guy. I could go on about great defenders and rebounders you probably never even heard of but this a man's game not the WNBA.
Has nothing to do with him being an intelligent player. he just doesn't have the explosiveness.
"Throw it down young man. throw it down"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG49uVLoVUk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1p46_uc7Q[/url]
OP had me for a quick second.
I could see duke 1/2-having a moral aversion to dunking....on some "It's unecessary" type sh!t.:lol
[QUOTE=allball]Juvenile? hardly. been watching this game a LONG time and never seen a guy with Shane's length and body type who won't throw it down hard on a big. show me where nice 6' 8" guys that don't dunk (including defensive stoppers) win ships in this league. I appreciate intangibles as much as the next guy. I could go on about great defenders and rebounders you probably never even heard of but this a man's game not the WNBA.
Has nothing to do with him being an intelligent player. he just doesn't have the explosiveness.
"Throw it down young man. throw it down"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG49uVLoVUk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1p46_uc7Q[/url][/QUOTE]
You are either a troll, a 10 yr old, or simply retarded. How are you going to evaluate a player and even bring championships into the conversation based on ones dunking ability? Battier is an excellent defender and one of the top role players in the league. Try searching for an article, a coach, or a player bashing Battier. A little more playing time, a little less computer time. Please.
I know this is a random bump, but I was at my little brother's basketball clinic this weekend hosted by Shane Battier and during Q & A one of the little ones asked if he could dunk (likely a poster on Insidehoops) and it instantly reminded me of this thread.
Rest assured, even after standing still for 20 minutes and wearing warmup pants and cross-trainers, Shane could still take one step and dunk (though it wasn't a hammer - it hit some iron). As others have said in this thread, sometimes it takes some frame of reference. I mean, he may seem average sized in the NBA but in truth, he's a slender, relatively long-armed 6'8''. He stated his first dunk came in 7th grade when he was 6'4''.
Finally, in the obvious statement of the century, Shane is a very affable guy. In terms of talking to athletes, I can usually take it or leave it. But he seems legitimately cool. Also, fun fact: I asked him a super random question about a game he had against an area team in high school, and he confirmed he did indeed once score 16 points, grab 25 rebounds, and draw 6 charges in the same game. Is that not the ultimate essence of Shane Battier?