NBA has suspended Gilbert Arenas indefinitely until investigation ends

[QUOTE=bokes15]But Wizards general manager Ernie Grunfeld, who allegedly was the one to report Arenas' firearms to NBA security, may have another option -- one he's seriously considering should Arenas be charged with a crime: void his contract.

The move, which would free the Wizards of any financial obligation and instantly remove Arenas' salary from their books, is complicated but not unprecedented. The NBA's collective bargaining agreement clearly states that a contract can be voided if a player "at any time, fails, refuses, or neglects to conform his personal conduct to standards of good citizenship, good moral character (defined here to mean not engaging in acts of moral turpitude, whether or not such acts would constitute a crime), and good sportsmanship ..." It could be argued that any criminal charges leveled against Arenas would constitute a failure in personal conduct.

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Wizards statement: "We fully endorse the decision of the NBA to indefinitely suspend Gilbert Arenas."

Wizards: "Gilbert's recent behavior & statements, including his actions & statements last night in Philadelphia, are unacceptable."

[QUOTE=RaininThrees]"There are moral clauses written into most contracts, giving the team the option of voiding a contract for actions considered detrimental or embarrassing to the organization if publicized.""

You don't think this is an embarassment to a team that had to change its name from the "Bullets"... one that might want to get a massive contract off its books?[/QUOTE]

actually its perfect irony and the best thing that could've happened to the Wizards. They were going nowhere with the Wiz being all about Gilbert getting back to his old chucking self. Wiz were good when Gilbert was hurt where they played more team oriented ball. Now they might be able to void Gilberts contract. Its definitely better than having to be on the leash for a $100mill to someone who makes your team worse.

You also have to think about how much he is spending on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis... Car payments, mortgages, child support (?), etc... You know missing any amount of games (without pay) is going to hurt... Hell, the reason all this happened (supposedly) was because he didn't want to pay up in a card game, and that was what less than 1% of his income?

[QUOTE=paperstreet]IMO, stern should have waited until the investigation ends[/QUOTE]
He bought guns to a NBA facility....I'm surprised he hadn't been suspended already.

[QUOTE=RaininThrees]Wizards statement: "We fully endorse the decision of the NBA to indefinitely suspend Gilbert Arenas."

Wizards: "Gilbert's recent behavior & statements, including his actions & statements last night in Philadelphia, are unacceptable."[/QUOTE]


they also from what i heard condemned the action of his teammates going along with it.

this is like when a bunch of lil kids get in trouble for being lil kids. pretty sad.

[QUOTE=Poodle]actually its perfect irony and the best thing that could've happened to the Wizards. They were going nowhere with the Wiz being all about Gilbert getting back to his old chucking self. Wiz were good when Gilbert was hurt where they played more team oriented ball. Now they might be able to void Gilberts contract. Its definitely better than having to be on the leash for a $100mill to someone who makes your team worse.[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what I mean. They were probably looking for way out of it and ol' Gil handed them one.

[QUOTE=GOBB]There is no but. No wealthy human being is ok with losing that kind of money.[/QUOTE]

No doubt. $10M is a lot to lose....to anybody. But, when have we ever heard about a contract being voided? Not Stephen Jacksons,Tinsleys, not Monta Ellis...no one. What is the Wizards argument anyway?

I'm saying it right now. His contract won't get voided. If I'm wrong I'll use a ****ing Laker avatar for the rest of the season:roll:

Good. Gil always struck me as a guy who cared more about his image than winning. He tried to force himself in the public as to make it seem he was above the league, and It's blown up in his face.

Good riddance. He's probably going to be suspended for the rest of the season, [I]at the very least[/I].

[QUOTE=thejumpa]No doubt. $10M is a lot to lose....to anybody. But, when have we ever heard about a contract being voided? Not Stephen Jacksons,Tinsleys, not Monta Ellis...no one. What is the Wizards argument anyway?
[B]I'm saying it right now. His contract won't get voided. If I'm wrong I'll use a ****ing Laker avatar for the rest of the season[/B]:roll:[/QUOTE] for historic purposes...lol

[QUOTE=thejumpa]No doubt. $10M is a lot to lose....to anybody. But, when have we ever heard about a contract being voided? Not Stephen Jacksons,Tinsleys, not Monta Ellis...no one. What is the Wizards argument anyway?

I'm saying it right now. His contract won't get voided. If I'm wrong I'll use a ****ing Laker avatar for the rest of the season:roll:[/QUOTE]

you're probably right. the team of lawyers you can buy with that much money at stake probably isn't even worth the litigation costs in fighting to void it. who knows tho :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Poodle]actually its perfect irony and the best thing that could've happened to the Wizards. They were going nowhere with the Wiz being all about Gilbert getting back to his old chucking self. Wiz were good when Gilbert was hurt where they played more team oriented ball. Now they might be able to void Gilberts contract. Its definitely better than having to be on the leash for a $100mill to someone who makes your team worse.[/QUOTE]

Very well put, this should be the Wizards front office right now

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I REALLY hope that they can get his contract voided. It would set a great precedent.

My guess is that the players union will fight like crazy to avoid this, and once it becomes apparent that there is a good chance the Wiz can prove breach of contract, the PU will broker some kind of buyout to avoid the precedent of a voided contract.

I can't decide whether commisioner Stern is a genius or a moron......On the one hand suspending him now makes him look like he is going after Arenas just because he criticized him. Not suspending Arenas is bad for the image of the league.

I really have no idea on this one.

[QUOTE=pete's montreux]Good. Gil always struck me as a guy who cared more about his image than winning. He tried to force himself in the public as to make it seem he was above the league, and It's blown up in his face.

Good riddance. He's probably going to be suspended for the rest of the season, [I]at the very least[/I].[/QUOTE]


Quoting Adrian Woj.: "Stern feels like he's been taunted by (Arenas)," NBA source says. "He's done for the year....at the very least."

Wow i wonder if the wizards knew this yesterday thats why they were so out of it in the 1st half.

Man....

Big Agent Zero fan...but WTF? Oh well.........

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[QUOTE=thejumpa]No doubt. $10M is a lot to lose....to anybody. But, when have we ever heard about a contract being voided? Not Stephen Jacksons,Tinsleys, not Monta Ellis...no one. What is the Wizards argument anyway?

I'm saying it right now. His contract won't get voided. If I'm wrong I'll use a ****ing Laker avatar for the rest of the season:roll:[/QUOTE]
Jackson and Tinsley were never really talked about as far as having their contracts voided. Ellis and Radmonavich actually probably could have had their contracts voided, especially Radman, but their teams didn't try to do it. Arenas is in a whole other situation.

With Ellis they wanted to wait and see if he could come back and play at a high level - he has and all is forgiven. Arenas has come back and hasn't been good, the team is horrible and he had the most (maybe 2nd most after Brand) untradeable contract in the NBA. What's the worst that can happen if they try to void his contract and don't succeed? It's not like the Wizards can get much worse or he'll lower his trade value.

The verbage is in his contract, so they have a good shot at voiding the contract if he's convicted of anything. The difference between Gil and the other situations you mentioned is simply that the Wiz have no reason to NOT attempt voiding his contract.

"There is, of course, plenty of risk. If the Wizards do void Arenas' contract and lose a court fight with the union, they would be stuck with a player they don't want (and who knows he isn't wanted) and forced to either buy out his deal (highly unlikely considering how much money is involved) or trade him for anything they can get.

Still, this is a chance for Washington to start from scratch. The Arenas-Jamison-Butler core is not going to win a championship, and it may not even get the Wizards into the playoffs. Arenas' latest run-in is Washington's chance to change all that, to get the franchise back on track. That is, if the Wizards welcome the opportunity."

[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]Just saw on MSNBC. I can only imagine his pre-game antics didn't help matters.

Here is the statement from the NBA: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=5234[/url][/QUOTE]

They did the right thing. They weren't too hasty, but they didn't let this drag on. Ironically, we're still only at the beginning of all of this. We still don't really know what happened.

[QUOTE=RaininThrees]Quoting Adrian Woj.: "Stern feels like he's been taunted by (Arenas)," NBA source says. "He's done for the year....at the very least."[/QUOTE]

Wow. I believe Adrian, he has legit sources. At least with the Rockets, he has not been wrong yet.

[QUOTE=Poodle]you're probably right. the team of lawyers you can buy with that much money at stake probably isn't even worth the litigation costs in fighting to void it. who knows tho :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Not only that, but assuming he didn't pull out and point any pistols, and the other dude didn't either, what is the argument other than him having unloaded guns in his locker? A fine and suspension is what he deserves...

It's sad to see him go down this path, though. His care-free personality seems to have bit him in the ass. Crazy to think he used to be thought of as being good for the NBA. Still isn't too late to make all this go away, though.

[QUOTE=Im so nba'd out]So why hasnt Delonte "Rambo" West been suspended?[/QUOTE]

Not to mention Delonte West is bi-polar... that helps a lot.

I dont think it will happen, but the best thing for the Wizards organization is that Gils contract gets voided. That would be bigger than the Lakers getting Gasol for Kwame. Imagine having Gil off the cap. Man, the Wizards would love that

[QUOTE=ElPigto]Wow. I believe Adrian, he has legit sources. At least with the Rockets, he has not been wrong yet.[/QUOTE]

He's the best reporter in the NBA, IMO.

Gilbert Arenas is just plain dumb. I hope Washington can somehow get of his contract. It's bad enough he is injured all the time, for him to completely disrupt what little focus his team had just shows you he isn't capable of leading a team.

He made the statement yesturday that he now understands the topic of guns isn't a joking matter, yet he goes out in the player introduction and makes a fool of himself. Just... Plain... Dumb!

happy birthday agent zero my brother...no really, happy birthday :lol.

[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]i bet he is kicking himself in the ass[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. He seems kind of delusional about this whole thing.

A blessing in disguise. The Wizards don't have to pay his awful contract for the time being, and they could possibly void the whole thing. Plus, it's not as if the Wizards were looking like playoff hopefuls anyways. I feel bad for Gilbert though, he seems like a nice enough guy, a bit dumb though.

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And calling Stern "mean." What NOT to do when your season is hanging by a thread :banghead:[/QUOTE]


did they really do the fall down after Gilbert shot at them like in the Replacements? looks like some of them are kind of doing it but its hard to tell.

that's why they call them Washington Bullets...crazy team

Niko.....get us some unlicensed firearms
Knicks101......Find out combination to Eddy Curry's locker
Bano.......Hack into MSG's servers and gain access to card key duplicates
ALBaller......Distract Curry outside MSG so we time to manuever..



Let's move people!!!!! The future of the NYK organization depends our mission......[I]giving Knicks secret salute.......Mission Impossible music plays..........[/I]

[QUOTE=bagelred]Niko.....get us some unlicensed firearms
Knicks101......Find out combination to Eddy Curry's locker
Bano.......Hack into MSG's servers and gain access to card key duplicates
ALBaller......Distract Curry outside MSG so we time to manuever..



Let's move people!!!!! The future of the NYK organization depends our mission......[I]giving Knicks secret salute.......Mission Impossible music plays..........[/I][/QUOTE]

Distracting him won't be too hard, there's a Mcdonalds within a block of MSG.

:oldlol:

[quote=bagelred]Niko.....get us some unlicensed firearms
Knicks101......Find out combination to Eddy Curry's locker
Bano.......Hack into MSG's servers and gain access to card key duplicates
ALBaller......Distract Curry outside MSG so we time to manuever..



Let's move people!!!!! The future of the NYK organization depends our mission......[I]giving Knicks secret salute.......Mission Impossible music plays..........[/I][/quote]The sad thing is that after going to all that trouble, you would break in and find 3 guns already in the locker.

[QUOTE=ALBballer]Distracting him won't be too hard, there's a Mcdonalds within a block of MSG.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

......[I].slapping ALBaller..[/I]........Do you understand the seriousness of our mission? Huh? DO YOU!!!!!!.........Look alive, Private NYK34293 or you'll be banished to New Jersey!!!!............

[QUOTE=bagelred]Niko.....get us some unlicensed firearms
Knicks101......Find out combination to Eddy Curry's locker
Bano.......Hack into MSG's servers and gain access to card key duplicates
ALBaller......Distract Curry outside MSG so we time to manuever..



Let's move people!!!!! The future of the NYK organization depends our mission......[I]giving Knicks secret salute.......Mission Impossible music plays..........[/I][/QUOTE]

It would be easier to just start giving out guns as happy meal toys. He'd have 15 guns by the end of the week.

Pure stupidity. What did he think was going to happen? This is probably dumber than when Griffin crashed his car while jerking off to porn.

everyone is juz hatin' on gilbert :mad:

[QUOTE=Clocian-IGN]happy birthday agent zero my brother...no really, happy birthday :lol.[/QUOTE]


LOL. I had to look this up. What a present from Mr. Stern.

How the f-ck is GA suspended and Delonte West DIDN'T get suspended....or did he? Now i'm confused......