[QUOTE=mrpuente]aah damn should i buy a ps3 for this game?[/QUOTE]
Just buy it for the 360 if you have one.
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[QUOTE=mrpuente]aah damn should i buy a ps3 for this game?[/QUOTE]
Just buy it for the 360 if you have one.
[QUOTE=Kensta]Just buy it for the 360 if you have one.[/QUOTE]
yeh thats probably whats gonna happen. it comes out the 9th anyone getting it that day?
[QUOTE=mrpuente]yeh thats probably whats gonna happen. it comes out the 9th anyone getting it that day?[/QUOTE]
i am. then gow3 week after that, man what a geat 2 weeks...
[QUOTE=mrpuente]aah damn should i buy a ps3 for this game?[/QUOTE]
From an ign preview:
[I]As a quick note for owners of multiple platforms, I strongly recommend getting this game on the PS3. The 360 version seems to run well enough, but it's noticeably less sharp and is spread across three discs. [/I]
I am a lifetime Final Fantasy fan. I started in '92 with Final Fantasy IV, and have played every numbered Final Fantasy since then, barring the pay to play online garbage that was known as FF11. Anyways, I do have high hopes for FF13, as it looks very well done from what I have seen. I have prereserved it, so I will play it right away and let people know what I think. Since it's the first game for the new system, they will probably make it somewhat revolutionary. (Square has a pattern of this. FF4, SNES was revolutionary for its time.. FF7, PS1 was Revolutionary.. FFX , PS2 was revolutionary but somewhat crappy.)
Hopefully the character development and story is excellent, because that's really what I look for in a Final Fantasy.
I am sure many have seen this, but Gamespot gave it an 8.5. The 'critics' so far have given it a 7.9.
The bad comments include "Exceedingly linear exploration and character progression".
Question, I haven't played FF since the PS2....I don't remember the numbers etc. Would those games have been classified as 'linear'? I am not a massive gamer, so I am not sure what they mean by that. Like I would consider Gears of War super linear......but what about Assassin's Creed 2....is that? What about GTA IV? You can do a bunch of side stuff...but all games have to move forward in the main story. So what is linear in video games?
[QUOTE=RapsFan]I am sure many have seen this, but Gamespot gave it an 8.5. The 'critics' so far have given it a 7.9.
The bad comments include "Exceedingly linear exploration and character progression".
Question, I haven't played FF since the PS2....I don't remember the numbers etc. Would those games have been classified as 'linear'? I am not a massive gamer, so I am not sure what they mean by that. Like I would consider Gears of War super linear......but what about Assassin's Creed 2....is that? What about GTA IV? You can do a bunch of side stuff...but all games have to move forward in the main story. So what is linear in video games?[/QUOTE]
That score is skewed due to TeamXbox giving it a score of 50% in a review that was so retarded that they have already retracted it.
But it's still not what most people expected.
The mean linear in the most literal sense. There is no exploration. The game takes place completely on a tightly set path.
Picking the game up tonight at Gamestop midnight release.
I have actually no qualms about an rpg being too linear. This only means that I'm following a story, and if the story is awesome enough, I'd enjoy the ride.
Final Fantasy 6, which IMO is the best, is something you would call linear. Especially during the first half in the world of balance, you follow your party as they chug along, and the story takes you to different places and you carry on. This is actually where RPG's should show their strength in character development.
I remember the whole Edgar / Sabin sequence when they introduced the two brothers and their relationship and on who should be king. That was awesome storytelling.
Same as character progression being linear. If someone was supposed to be a mage then let em be a mage.
Played the game a few hours today and I liked it. The story line in Linear, but I am enjoying it. I think the replay will suffer because of the gameplay style but it is a fun game on the first play through.
What I did not like is they WoWed down the game mechanics, and they way to simple now.
Graphics and storyline are amazing.
After about 2 hours the gameplay really opens up with paradigms and magic.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Graphics and storyline are amazing.
After about 2 hours the gameplay really opens up with paradigms and magic.[/QUOTE]
yup, im really loving the game so far. awesome graphics and gameplay. story is also good so far
why everyone hating on it being linear, thats what its supposed too be imo.
I'm now about 6 hours in and I must say I'm impressed. As long as you are open to all the changes they made, the quality is very impressive.
I'm still in the supposedly "slow start" part of the game, but it's obvious this is easily the best Final Fantasy of the last 10 years.
[QUOTE=mrpuente]why everyone hating on it being linear, thats what its supposed too be imo.[/QUOTE]
maybe an action game.
not an RPG.
a good RPG offers up many choices on how to go about accomplishing various tasks and often will have branching storylines
[QUOTE=LJJ]That score is skewed due to TeamXbox giving it a score of 50% in a review that was so retarded that they have already retracted it.
But it's still not what most people expected.
The mean linear in the most literal sense. There is no exploration. The game takes place completely on a tightly set path.[/QUOTE]
no, its getting bad and mediocre reviews elsewhere too. Edge Magazine also gave it a 50, Wired gave it a 60 and there are a surprising number of 70 range reviews. I would actually be more wary of the extremely high reviews like Games Radar and Playstation Magazine's scores of 100.
Game is getting better and better the deeper I get. It honestly took about 6 hours of gametime before the game really opens up.
I wonder if all these 'game reviewers' really put 6 hours into the game before making their reviews.
My GF has been watching me play, and she keeps wanting me to push forward so she can learn more of the story. This is the first game she's ever wanted me to wait to play when she's home.
[QUOTE=kentatm]maybe an action game.
not an RPG.
a good RPG offers up many choices on how to go about accomplishing various tasks and often will have branching storylines
no, its getting bad and mediocre reviews elsewhere too. Edge Magazine also gave it a 50, Wired gave it a 60 and there are a surprising number of 70 range reviews. I would actually be more wary of the extremely high reviews like Games Radar and Playstation Magazine's scores of 100.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, let's use Edge scores as a measure of a games quality. :rolleyes:
IGN and 1up scored it a 89-90. The 85-90 range is probably where it should be.
Your notion on RPGs is, quite frankly, completely false. That's a stylistic choice that has nothing to do with quality.
[QUOTE=kentatm]a good RPG offers up many choices on how to go about accomplishing various tasks and often will have branching storylines[/QUOTE]
Can you give an example of what a good RPG is?
Played it for a couple hours last night and my paradigms and crystaruim. I can't wait to get home after work to play it. This is the best FF since FFVII IMO.
Got my summon Gestalt mode tonight. All I can say is..... woah. :eek:
[QUOTE=mrpuente]why everyone hating on it being linear, thats what its supposed too be imo.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm saying, since when has Final Fantasy not been linear?
If people want non-linear go play Oblivion :confusedshrug: .
gonna go get this tomorrow! can't wait wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Played about 5 hours tonight with my GF. She keeps telling me to go faster so we can uncover more of the story. :oldlol:
I'm just trying to stay alive! Still learning the best way to use my paradigm shifts with different combinations of characters.
So far, this is easily the worst Final Fantasy I've ever played.
[QUOTE]That's what I'm saying, since when has Final Fantasy not been linear? [/QUOTE]
This game takes being linear to whole new level.
There's not even a minigame like Blitzball or a card game if you want a break from the story.
So far, I haven't been to a town where you can just chill, talk to people, visit shops etc ...
Every level is like a long and narrow corridor. Don't play this game if you're claustrophobic ...
And Lightning seems to be the only interesting character, and you only control her for like half the time, great move Square :applause: :applause: :applause:
I guess Snow is OK, but after that ? Meh.
Final Fantasy XIV comes out next year, and will me an online MMORPG.
Then you can sit around town talking to people for hours ala World of Warcraft.
I personally like the direction they took with this game... but I haven't played FF in years, so my opinion on the franchise doesn't mean much I guess.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Final Fantasy XIV comes out next year, and will me an online MMORPG.
Then you can sit around town talking to people for hours ala World of Warcraft.
I personally like the direction they took with this game... but I haven't played FF in years, so my opinion on the franchise doesn't mean much I guess.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention Final Fantasy XI is still rolling out new content & updates.
Final Fantasy in general has definitely been trying to cater to a more broad audience since FFX. I have a couple friends who are primarily FPS gamers, who bought FFXIII because of all the hype surrounding it, and they have enjoyed it so far.
For old school RPG fans, there are still plenty of franchises out there that haven't really strayed far from the basic formula(Wild Arms, Suikoden, Star Ocean, Dragon Quest, Tales Series etc.)
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]So far, this is easily the worst Final Fantasy I've ever played.
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Well, forget I said anything. I thought the 1st ten hours or so were horrible but it really gets better after that.
Or maybe I just got used to it.
Is the game really that good? I hear the graphic on PS3 is way more better than Xbox360. One of the main reason I want to play is because of the graphic performance. Any ways, I hate how they made the game so linear. Still thinking whether I should spend 55 bucks on that game.
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]Well, forget I said anything. I thought the 1st ten hours or so were horrible but it really gets better after that.
Or maybe I just got used to it.[/QUOTE]
The game starts REALLY slow. It takes a good 10 hours before you can even use most of the basic abilities.
I'm about 20 hours in... and although the game is extremely linear, it's probably the best story in a game I've ever played. It probably helps that the graphics on my 46" Sony Bravia 1080p HD make the game look breathtaking... but the characters personalities and emotions are incredible.
This is the first game my GF has ever watched me played 100%. She even banned me from playing when she isn't home... which kind of sucks, hah.
[QUOTE=gasolina]Can you give an example of what a good RPG is?[/QUOTE]
Chrono Trigger
[QUOTE=kentatm]Chrono Trigger[/QUOTE]
Chrono Trigger is pretty linear. You can only choose where you want to go once you get the Wings of Time.
Chrono Trigger rules though. I wish they made a proper sequel instead of that confusefest Chrono Cross.
[QUOTE=gasolina]Chrono Trigger is pretty linear. You can only choose where you want to go once you get the Wings of Time.
Chrono Trigger rules though. I wish they made a proper sequel instead of that confusefest Chrono Cross.[/QUOTE]
Never played Chrono Trigger but Chrono Cross was legit.
Ok, so my first impression of this game was "... what the shit is going on?" then I started reading the Database stuff and more of it made sense and as the story progressed it became clear (I'm the Crystal Lake ATM... just beat that big Machine dude). It was very confusing at the beginning tho. The Paradigm stuff seemed like it was going to be really confusing, but took me only a battle to grasp. I find them quite entertaining because you are always doing something. In XII you could let the gambits do the work for and simply survey the situation... which was cool, but I like having to constantly be alert. I love the fact that HP replenishes after battles and no MP is cool... I'll miss seeing "Ether" in my item list though lol (unless it's used for something else now and I just haven't gotten one yet).
As for the characters... I like the black dude (can't spell his name yet lol but I love the chocobo fro) and I like Snow (he looks like a G). Lighting I'm on the fence... she is interesting but man she is such a biotch to Snow. Vanille annoys me so far but she ain't bad on the eye... and Hope is just sort of there ATM and hasn't been developed much so far. The other girl hasn't come into play yet but she looks like a hard ass.
Overall my experience has been great and I'd give it a 9/10 so far. I'm interested in the story so far and the gameplay is fun to me... I'm excited to play it. I just need to buy myself a nice ass TV so I can truly appreciate the graphic beauty.
[QUOTE=kentatm]Chrono Trigger[/QUOTE]
Lol. Chrono Trigger doesn't fit your previous description of what a good RPG must conform to at all.
I just bought the game, and I have no idea why. Anyways, I'll be playing my Pokemon HeartGold first.
Good game. I got the ps3 version and my bro got the xbox version, cant say Im disappointed.
Im prob in that 20 hour mark as well, and have unlocked all the Gestaults but one. Trying to build my characters at this point, in a level I can actually explore more to do so.
hmmm...cant decide between this or God of War 3...
Game is fantastic. I'm on Chapter 8 already. Soooo goood :applause:
Ff 6, 7, 8, 10 > Ff 13
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]Ff 6, 7, 8, 10 > Ff 13[/QUOTE]
I love FF7. I am little bit disappointed in FF13 but I am still have fun and it doesn't have replay value.
[QUOTE=konex]Game is fantastic. I'm on Chapter 8 already. Soooo goood :applause:[/QUOTE]
I'm on Chapter 9....almost 10.