Spurs have dropped more change on crap bench players than Michael J Fox drops trying to feed a parking meter.
:rolleyes:
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Spurs have dropped more change on crap bench players than Michael J Fox drops trying to feed a parking meter.
:rolleyes:
we should be better than last year (with a healthy and motivated parker, more acclimated players in jefferson and blair, further improvement from hill, and hopefully our new guys catch on) and i think we overachieved last year considering the shaky season we had.
no one had us beating dallas. especially after the butler/haywood trade.
everyone had us beating phoenix last year and heading right back to the WCF to meet up with LA again (this time with a healthy ginobili playing 20/5/5 ball). we ran into a buzz saw that doesn't exist anymore though.
overall not too much has changed out west this offseason. some teams kinda stood pat. some arguably got worse. it'll be another one of those down to the wire seasons and the spurs'll be right in the thick of it - provided they can stay healthy.
still, hard to say we're ready to play with LA though. that, imo, depends on the kinda player splitter can be.
[QUOTE=Jon101]It doesn't matter. As long as the Lakers continue to dominate with their current group, SA is never getting out of the west. Expect more early exits for the next 3 to 4 years at least.[/QUOTE]
lol??? lakers will fall apart age wise faster then the spurs. the lakers will be irrelevant soon
[QUOTE=DixieNourmous]Spurs have dropped more change on crap bench players than Michael J Fox drops trying to feed a parking meter.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
besides bonner which crap bench player are you talkin about?
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]lol??? lakers will fall apart age wise faster then the spurs. the lakers will be irrelevant soon[/QUOTE]
youre trying too hard bro :roll:
What constitutes "sleeping" on the spurs? Not acknowledging them as strong title contenders
theyre not strong title contenders
[QUOTE=macpierce]theyre not strong title contenders[/QUOTE]
that's my point, i think we all recognize they are very good, but a bit past their prime, and an extreme longshot for the title (like at the level of Dallas or Denver, where so many things would have to break right it's not really worth considering...)
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]lol??? lakers will fall apart age wise faster then the spurs. the lakers will be irrelevant soon[/QUOTE]
you're irrelevant
It's pretty obvious the Spurs are a good team but they're in the same tier as the Mavs or OKC at this point. Duncan or Manu won't be getting any younger. They are however very well coached and their peak is likely a WCF exit like 2008.
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]lol??? lakers will fall apart age wise faster then the spurs. the lakers will be irrelevant soon[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
[QUOTE=macpierce]youre trying too hard bro :roll:[/QUOTE]
Do some research and you won't look so stupid.
[QUOTE=indiefan24]you're irrelevant[/QUOTE]
Like all of your posts.
[QUOTE=niko]that's my point, i think we all recognize they are very good, but a bit past their prime, and an extreme longshot for the title (like at the level of Dallas or Denver, where so many things would have to break right it's not really worth considering...)[/QUOTE]
I don't think they're as much of a longshot as everyone here (with nearly zero insight at all) seem to think. ISH posters seem to have this overall very bogus menality that is rarely the case.
"Teams that have been good for a long time MUST drop off, and cannot win without horrible seasons". <<< This is false. Spurs have won 4 titles without a losing season over the course of about 10 years.
"Young teams with a good core of young talent have a lot of 'upside' and will improve every year and be contenders for years!" <<< This is ALSO false. It rarely happens. It does happen, but rarely.
ISH posters, and NBA fans in general like to "guess" with no insight and try to pretend they're intelligent and plugged in if it pans out. Fact is, in this case, they have no idea. Spurs had tons of injuries and still won 50, and still knocked off a strong team in the playoffs. At the end of the season they were considered a strong threat to get past the Lakers (everyone forgets this). Yeah they lost to the Suns. . .but they're bench players were red hot from three in a few of those close games. It happens.
Spurs will be one of the top 8 in power rankings this coming season. Most likely top 5. If their chances of winning a titles are somehow "done" while they will be rated so high, I'm not sure exactly what people here expect, #1 or #2 to "have a chance"? Gimmie a break.
Oh, note: Last season the Spurs were power ranked at #5 overall before the season started (ESPN), and #2 right before the playoffs after the season ended. Yes, numer two.
[QUOTE=SinJackal]Agreed.
Do some research and you won't look so stupid.
Like all of your posts.
I don't think they're as much of a longshot as everyone here (with nearly zero insight at all) seem to think. ISH posters seem to have this overall very bogus menality that is rarely the case.
"Teams that have been good for a long time MUST drop off, and cannot win without horrible seasons". <<< This is false. Spurs have won 4 titles without a losing season over the course of about 10 years.
"Young teams with a good core of young talent have a lot of 'upside' and will improve every year and be contenders for years!" <<< This is ALSO false. It rarely happens. It does happen, but rarely.
ISH posters, and NBA fans in general like to "guess" with no insight and try to pretend they're intelligent and plugged in if it pans out. Fact is, in this case, they have no idea. Spurs had tons of injuries and still won 50, and still knocked off a strong team in the playoffs. At the end of the season they were considered a strong threat to get past the Lakers (everyone forgets this). Yeah they lost to the Suns. . .but they're bench players were red hot from three in a few of those close games. It happens.
Spurs will be one of the top 8 in power rankings this coming season. Most likely top 5. If their chances of winning a titles are somehow "done" while they will be rated so high, I'm not sure exactly what people here expect, #1 or #2 to "have a chance"? Gimmie a break.[/QUOTE]
People need to stop with arguing something may happen as it being
"possible". Anything is possible. It's not LIKELY though unless they make some sort of change to their team. THeir main problem is the age/frailty of their stars, and every year older does not make that situation better. Yes, SA CAN win the title next year. To do that, they'd need to jump over LA and possibly MIA in the finals. Who realistically (not pie in the sky but a decent chance) sees that happening?
So if you are saying SA has a small chance to win the title, like 3-5% then i'm not sleeping on them because i agree.
[QUOTE=niko]People need to stop with arguing something may happen as it being
"possible". Anything is possible. It's not LIKELY though unless they make some sort of change to their team. THeir main problem is the age/frailty of their stars, and every year older does not make that situation better. Yes, SA CAN win the title next year. To do that, they'd need to jump over LA and possibly MIA in the finals. Who realistically (not pie in the sky but a decent chance) sees that happening?[/QUOTE]
Last season the Spurs were power ranked at #5 overall before the season started (ESPN), and #2 right before the playoffs after the season ended. Yes, numer two.
People need to get over this boring idea that there's a guarantee it's going to be a Lakers/Heat finals. Don't forget the top ranked Lakers for a 4 peat chance got smashed out of the playoffs by SA before. Last time the Heat won a title, they lost in the first round the next season.
The odds LA and Heat are both #1 seeds and make the finals are barely 5%. 5% is probably even too high. 2% maybe. I'm not saying SA is definitely winning a title, but to think they have nearly NO shot is ludicrous. Spurs have a better chance of getting to the conf finals or finals than every other team besides maybe 3-4. The only teams with better chances are Magic and Celtics (due to being in the east only), and Heat and LA.
Who else has a better chance when the Spurs obviously have the tools to get past any team? Jazz if Jefferson works out? Being #3-6 overall isn't a low chance. . .that's an incredible position to be in.
[QUOTE=SinJackal]Last season the Spurs were power ranked at #5 overall before the season started (ESPN), and #2 right before the playoffs after the season ended. Yes, numer two.
People need to get over this boring idea that there's a guarantee it's going to be a Lakers/Heat finals. Don't forget the top ranked Lakers for a 4 peat chance got smashed out of the playoffs by SA before. Last time the Heat won a title, they lost in the first round the next season.
The odds LA and Heat are both #1 seeds and make the finals are barely 5%. 5% is probably even too high. 2% maybe. I'm not saying SA is definitely winning a title, but to think they have nearly NO shot is ludicrous. Spurs have a better chance of getting to the conf finals or finals than every other team besides maybe 3-4. The only teams with better chances are Magic and Celtics (due to being in the east only), and Heat and LA.
Who else has a better chance when the Spurs obviously have the tools to get past any team? Jazz if Jefferson works out? Being #3-6 overall isn't a low chance. . .that's an incredible position to be in.[/QUOTE]
i don't think we disagree, i think the OP just has a higher opinion of the spurs than is realistic. We went through this pre playoffs, "WHY IS EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE SPURS?" - because nobody felt strongly they could get through. Close is not through. Close is close. I think the difference between the spurs now and then is now, we'd be suprised if they won, and before, we were suprised they lost.
[QUOTE=niko]i don't think we disagree, i think the OP just has a higher opinion of the spurs than is realistic. We went through this pre playoffs, "WHY IS EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE SPURS?" - because nobody felt strongly they could get through. Close is not through. Close is close. I think the difference between the spurs now and then is now, we'd be suprised if they won, and before, we were suprised they lost.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I see what you're saying. I agree with you then. They aren't favorites or anything, but of a team that isn't LA or Miami, I don't think any team has a legitimate argument for having a better shot without saying "my team's in the east, so we have a better shot at the finals". That doesn't really mean it's a better team though :P imo anyway.
But it looks like we don't disagree after all. :P Senisible person on here for once.
the spurs uh!!! well wake me up after the first round exit.
[QUOTE=SinJackal]Agreed.
Do some research and you won't look so stupid.
Like all of your posts.
I don't think they're as much of a longshot as everyone here (with nearly zero insight at all) seem to think. ISH posters seem to have this overall very bogus menality that is rarely the case.
"Teams that have been good for a long time MUST drop off, and cannot win without horrible seasons". <<< This is false. Spurs have won 4 titles without a losing season over the course of about 10 years.
"Young teams with a good core of young talent have a lot of 'upside' and will improve every year and be contenders for years!" <<< This is ALSO false. It rarely happens. It does happen, but rarely.
ISH posters, and NBA fans in general like to "guess" with no insight and try to pretend they're intelligent and plugged in if it pans out. Fact is, in this case, they have no idea. Spurs had tons of injuries and still won 50, and still knocked off a strong team in the playoffs. At the end of the season they were considered a strong threat to get past the Lakers (everyone forgets this). Yeah they lost to the Suns. . .but they're bench players were red hot from three in a few of those close games. It happens.
Spurs will be one of the top 8 in power rankings this coming season. Most likely top 5. If their chances of winning a titles are somehow "done" while they will be rated so high, I'm not sure exactly what people here expect, #1 or #2 to "have a chance"? Gimmie a break.
Oh, note: Last season the Spurs were power ranked at #5 overall before the season started (ESPN), and #2 right before the playoffs after the season ended. Yes, numer two.[/QUOTE]
lol idiot
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]you better just hope the suns even make the playoffs this year. how do you think a spurs vs suns outcome would fair without amare?? LOL i cant WAIT[/QUOTE]
funny because spurs fans are always saying amare sucks.
[QUOTE=SinJackal]Don't forget the top ranked Lakers for a 4 peat chance got smashed out of the playoffs by SA before.[/QUOTE]
look at the lakers' roster from the 2002-2003 and tell me if they had anyone outside of shaq and kobe.
[QUOTE=SinJackal]
The odds LA and Heat are both #1 seeds and make the finals are barely 5%. 5% is probably even too high. 2% maybe. [/QUOTE]
ha how do you come up with this calculation? of course the *purs have a chance, every team in the NBA has a chance no matter how minuscule it is.
I love no matter how some of you try, you just can't say something nice about the Spurs. A bunch of Bill Walton's. :lol
But anyways, The regular season has never mattered to the Spurs, as long as they get a spot in the playoffs, whether its high or low. It is true the top 3aren't what they were years ago. But give them some credit. Don't take away their Championship hopes yet. We have a alot of players that are under the radar and haven't made a splash yet. I really think the Spurs are gonna go big this year.
We aren't trading Parker, despite rumors. I'd give him another two years before that is really considered.
We aren't trading Manu, heard him say he wants to focus on this year with us.
And we wouldn't dream of trading Timmy, you know his ass is retiring with us.
So the big 3 is here to stay with the rest of our underrated team.
[QUOTE=highwhey]funny because spurs fans are always saying amare sucks.[/QUOTE]
he does suck at rebounding and blocking out and pretty much everything but scoring lol but his scoring is wild and hard to stop and the dunks he provides are momentum builders or momentum stoppers. im definately happy to see amare out of the west but hes definately not a player i would want he doesnt know how to play the game
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]11 Straight 50 win seasons so what makes you ish morons think there wont be another 50 win season after 11 straight?? ooo the old arguement?? cant use the old arguement anymore because we are younger then ever.. so what will the excuse this year be?? I had to make this thread because there is still ISH rejects thinking the spurs are absolutely done and old. morons keep sleepin on them another 50+ win season is coming to a tv near you.
2009-10 San Antonio 50 32 .610 2nd Southwest Division 4 6 .400 Lost West Conf Semis
2008-09 San Antonio 54 28 .659 1st Southwest Division 1 4 .200 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
2007-08 San Antonio 56 26 .683 2nd Southwest Division 9 8 .529 Lost West Conf Finals
2006-07 San Antonio 58 24 .707 2nd Southwest Division 16 4 .800 Won NBA Finals
2005-06 San Antonio 63 19 768 1st Southwest Division 7 6 .538 Lost West Conf Semis
2004-05 San Antonio 59 23 .720 1st Southwest Division 16 7 .696 Won NBA Finals
2003-04 San Antonio 57 25 .695 2nd Midwest Division 6 4 .600 Lost West Conf Semis
2002-03 San Antonio 60 22 .732 1st Midwest Division 16 9 .640 Won NBA Finals
2001-02 San Antonio 58 24 .707 1st Midwest Division 4 6 .400 Lost West Conf Semis
2000-01 San Antonio 58 24 .707 1st Midwest Division 7 6 .538 Lost West Conf Finals
1999-00 San Antonio 53 29 .646 2nd Midwest Division 1 3 .250 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
The true BIG 3 are out for blood this year.[/QUOTE]
of course they will win 50 games nxt yr thats the only way u can go to the playoffs in the western conf. :roll:
anyways they are always a threat but they're no longer the alpha male anymore and this nxt season might be their last chance at a run at the title :violin:
Sorry, I'm LMFAO at this thread........WTF are you thinking......geez, Who gives a crap about the Spurs, they are too old and are flat out DONE.
Aren't you the same guy who said getting Jefferson made you the team to beat last year..:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Fk that boring azz team!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They'll be a strong team again this year, I'd put them as probably the 3rd best team in the west. I just can't see them beating out the Lakers in a playoff series.
If Splitter comes in and is a stud like advertised he can take time off of Timmy and if Anderson is good enough maybe he can take time off of Manu's legs.
And then if everything comes together then we can make quite a run in the playoffs because Tim Duncan is still Tim Duncan.
But those are two huge as ifs. I think 50 wins is gonna happen and I think playoffs are happening but I think Tiago is two years too late.
:sleeping Spurs front office is sleeping on themselves. :sleeping
Look at all the free agents already gone to other teams.
What is the plan for the Spurs? Go with what they got + Splitter?
Bet the ranch Spurs will fail again this year, they have not even tried to compete. :sleeping
[quote=spursdynasty420]11 Straight 50 win seasons so what makes you ish morons think there wont be another 50 win season after 11 straight?? ooo the old arguement?? cant use the old arguement anymore because we are younger then ever.. so what will the excuse this year be?? I had to make this thread because there is still ISH rejects thinking the spurs are absolutely done and old. morons keep sleepin on them another 50+ win season is coming to a tv near you.
2009-10 San Antonio 50 32 .610 2nd Southwest Division 4 6 .400 Lost West Conf Semis
2008-09 San Antonio 54 28 .659 1st Southwest Division 1 4 .200 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
2007-08 San Antonio 56 26 .683 2nd Southwest Division 9 8 .529 Lost West Conf Finals
2006-07 San Antonio 58 24 .707 2nd Southwest Division 16 4 .800 Won NBA Finals
2005-06 San Antonio 63 19 768 1st Southwest Division 7 6 .538 Lost West Conf Semis
2004-05 San Antonio 59 23 .720 1st Southwest Division 16 7 .696 Won NBA Finals
2003-04 San Antonio 57 25 .695 2nd Midwest Division 6 4 .600 Lost West Conf Semis
2002-03 San Antonio 60 22 .732 1st Midwest Division 16 9 .640 Won NBA Finals
2001-02 San Antonio 58 24 .707 1st Midwest Division 4 6 .400 Lost West Conf Semis
2000-01 San Antonio 58 24 .707 1st Midwest Division 7 6 .538 Lost West Conf Finals
1999-00 San Antonio 53 29 .646 2nd Midwest Division 1 3 .250 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
The true BIG 3 are out for blood this year.[/quote]
whatever pills you're taking, cut the dose to half
sorry i can't take them seriously with Jefferson on the team
Well whatever :facepalm I guess if you want to sleep on them, its quite alright. I see we have some things to prove.
Duncan and Ginobili are already in their mid 30's. The Spurs had regressed defensively last season. Splitter is a good addition.
if the suns face the spurs again in the playoffs suns can bench all players and leave dragic out there to finish them off
Imagine actually sleeping on the Spurs. It would probably be uncomfortable. Shit would be all lumpy and smelly. You'd have Tim Duncan's elbow in your back or you'd wake up in the middle of the night and Manu would be millimeters away from your face breathing too heavily and gently poking you with his huge nose.
An unpleasant night's sleep, I reckon.
[QUOTE=Scoooter]Imagine actually sleeping on the Spurs. It would probably be uncomfortable. Shit would be all lumpy and smelly. You'd have Tim Duncan's elbow in your back or you'd wake up in the middle of the night and Manu would be millimeters away from your face breathing too heavily and gently poking you with his huge nose.
An unpleasant night's sleep, I reckon.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
[QUOTE=indiefan24]ha how do you come up with this calculation? of course the *purs have a chance, every team in the NBA has a chance no matter how minuscule it is.[/QUOTE]
How many times have two teams everyone predicted would meet in the finals, has that actually happened? How often have they both been #1 seeds at the end of the year? And I'm talking about teams that were already proven. . .the Heat are not. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where those odds come from. They're very low.
[QUOTE=alanLA92]this nxt season might be their last chance at a run at the title :violin:[/QUOTE]
Not really. They have 3 years left. Less of a chance each year, but they'll still have a better chance than 2/3rds of the league over those 3 years.
[QUOTE=DKLaker]Sorry, I'm LMFAO at this thread........WTF are you thinking......geez, Who gives a crap about the Spurs, they are too old and are flat out DONE.
Aren't you the same guy who said getting Jefferson made you the team to beat last year..:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Fk that boring azz team!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Sounds like you're living in the past. Spurs haven't been "too old" since they stopped resigning Finley and Horry. They only have 3 players who are over 30. One of those three is a bench player. Everyone else is 25 and under besides one player who's 28. You clearly don't know shit about that team.
[QUOTE=CelticsFan34]They'll be a strong team again this year, I'd put them as probably the 3rd best team in the west. I just can't see them beating out the Lakers in a playoff series.[/QUOTE]
I agree. They either have to be fortunate and hope the Lakers have at least a minor injury to Gasol or Kobe. . .or they have to be on fire and 100% healthy in the WCF and also have had players like Splitter and Jefferson pan out properly. Or an outburst series from Blair.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Duncan and Ginobili are already in their mid 30's. The Spurs had regressed defensively last season. Splitter is a good addition.[/QUOTE]
Manu was 32 last season, and Duncan was 33. . .how is that mid 30s? Isn't that early 30s? >_> McDyess is mid 30s though. He's the only truly "old" player on the team. Everyone else was under 30 last year. Most 25 or under.
Spurs regressed defensively ever since Bowen left and they for some insane reason stopped signing centers who could play D'. They finally addressed that issue this offseason. . .though I guess they were just hoping Splitter would stop playing in Spain the whole time. They stopped signing centers right around when they drafted Splitter. Things might've looked differently the last couple seasons if Splitter signed with SA right away. 12/8 with good D' wouldn't have been bad rather than Matt Bonner.
Losing Bowen + having Bonner on the floor is what killed their defense. Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker (especially Ginobili) are still very good defensively.
I do think Manu's broken nose stopped their run last year. They looked great against Dallas. Manu was balling and bam...
Splitter should help out that frontline. Parker will be healthy. One more run is all they have. But in no way are they the titans from before. Duncan is older.
[QUOTE=Big#50]I do think Manu's broken nose stopped their run last year. They looked great against Dallas. Manu was balling and bam...
Splitter should help out that frontline. Parker will be healthy. One more run is all they have. But in no way are they the titans from before. Duncan is older.[/QUOTE]
Manu's performance did drop a little in the games after the broken nose, but I don't want to make excuses. The Suns' red hot bench was the main reason the Spurs couldn't win. Several Spurs struggled at various times. Blair wasn't getting enough playing time (maybe he had minor injuries), Bonner was getting too much playing time. Things just seemed to unravel for 'em.
A healthy Parker (who isn't playing internationally for once. . .), a center they badly needed, a relaxed Jefferson, and hopefully a healthy Duncan/Manu/Blair, and Spurs fans really have no reason to think they don't have a good shot this year. Not as good of a shot as LA or Miami. . .but other than them. . .I can't really say there are any teams that I'd put money on over SA to win this year.
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]11 Straight 50 win seasons so what makes you ish morons think there wont be another 50 win season after 11 straight?? ooo the old arguement?? cant use the old arguement anymore because we are younger then ever.. so what will the excuse this year be?? I had to make this thread because there is still ISH rejects thinking the spurs are absolutely done and old. morons keep sleepin on them another 50+ win season is coming to a tv near you.
2009-10 San Antonio 50 32 .610 2nd Southwest Division 4 6 .400 Lost West Conf Semis
2008-09 San Antonio 54 28 .659 1st Southwest Division 1 4 .200 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
2007-08 San Antonio 56 26 .683 2nd Southwest Division 9 8 .529 Lost West Conf Finals
2006-07 San Antonio 58 24 .707 2nd Southwest Division 16 4 .800 Won NBA Finals
2005-06 San Antonio 63 19 768 1st Southwest Division 7 6 .538 Lost West Conf Semis
2004-05 San Antonio 59 23 .720 1st Southwest Division 16 7 .696 Won NBA Finals
2003-04 San Antonio 57 25 .695 2nd Midwest Division 6 4 .600 Lost West Conf Semis
2002-03 San Antonio 60 22 .732 1st Midwest Division 16 9 .640 Won NBA Finals
2001-02 San Antonio 58 24 .707 1st Midwest Division 4 6 .400 Lost West Conf Semis
2000-01 San Antonio 58 24 .707 1st Midwest Division 7 6 .538 Lost West Conf Finals
1999-00 San Antonio 53 29 .646 2nd Midwest Division 1 3 .250 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
The true BIG 3 are out for blood this year.[/QUOTE]
this guy knows where it's at
[QUOTE=SinJackal]I can't really say there are any teams that I'd put money on over SA to win this year.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. No one can really match them
Why did Spursdynasty420 get banned anyway?
He wasn't any worse than several other trolls on here.
Or is it because he was a Spurs troll, and not a Knicks, Lakers, or Celtics troll? :confusedshrug: