Some advice for basketball players

School just started and it's getting tougher to get to a gym, my local rec center's closed for 2 weeks, my parents won't drive me to the Celtics practice facility (even though I got a free membership there), the town tore up the courts for rebuilding, so I've been doing some shoot around on my hoop outside. It's pretty crap, the backboard's plastic and too forgiving and the rim is pretty forgiving as well. I'll definitely hit up the Celtics facility this weekend though, tomorrows my last day of school before a long weekend.

One thing I wanted to remember to share was something I got from Point Guard College and I remember thinking about it as I was wrapping up my summer reading before school started.

LIFE ISN'T FAIR.

That was the truth they tried to pound into us by deliberately making terrible calls, cutting no slack and making us do stuff we'd think was pointless. And in reality, I'd probably still be on my couch trying to read a book and complaining at the same time. Here's what I mean:

A lot of people really just don't care about your basketball dreams and goals. I know for a fact my teachers and parents don't care that all the work they assigned bit into my time in the gym. Kids who want to run a pickup game and take up the only baskets at your local court don't care that you want to shoot around and actually improve.

Life isn't fair but you have to accept that. Try and stop complaining about anything: just like in a basketball game, complaining about something that happens WON'T change the call. What happened just happened and the best way to recover from that is to stay on your grind.

Don't waste time and energy complaining or trying to feel sorry for yourself, take action and make it happen. Learn to be unstoppable so that no matter what happens, whether it's pouring out or you have to read 50 pages by tomorrow that you do it and you still have time to train. No one is going to tell you you're free from working and you can knock yourself out training for basketball. You have to do that yourself!

yes yes we just need to focus on our goals and have the right state of mind.

By the way, what do you think is the ultimate basketball training program to do in 1 hour? My time is getting used up by school now. First day of school and I'm aleady coming home at 4 pm without any extra classes(joining basketball prob next week). I could stretch it to a max of 2 hours though.

Yea I know I need to work on my attitude. I am kind of a toot to my own horn kind of guy... so I like doing things myself. Obv I don't know everything tho. I also have a bad attitude if I'm missing shots in practice. I feel like I should make dam near everything if nobody is guarding me. Life indeed isn't fair and when things go array it's all about how you respond. It's better to have a good attitude and move on.

Update from yesterday: Shot 50 3's. I was planning to make 50 but I realized it would've been counter intuitive because after a while I was getting fatigued and form was getting sloppier. I had just lifted so I focused on getting good form in and if the shots went in, great.

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]yes yes we just need to focus on our goals and have the right state of mind.

By the way, what do you think is the ultimate basketball training program to do in 1 hour? My time is getting used up by school now. First day of school and I'm aleady coming home at 4 pm without any extra classes(joining basketball prob next week). I could stretch it to a max of 2 hours though.[/QUOTE]

1 hour: What are you trying to get better at? I'd pick one or two skills you feel you really should improve and just hit those hard. It's alot more efficient than trying to do everything for too little time.

For example, if you chose shooting and passing, I'd spent 35-40 minutes shooting and 20 minutes passing, emphasizing the left hand. Have an 80/20 split working your offhand for passing/ball handling because when you work your left you also work your right subconsciously.

Don't forget to warm up and stretch when finished.

Ya know it's hard to say with practice cus I'm still trying to find out how to do it best. I'm still not practicing, but with my friend, it seems like just working on 1 or 2 things for about 60-90 minutes works the best. He's not the most natural player so he really has to do things over and over again if he doesn't get the move from the beginning. For example, on Thursday I showed him this move: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y580jXnbp4I[/url] and it wasn't coming naturally to him at first.... Quite a few times he went behind his back instead cus that's what felt natural. It took him about 20 minutes to get it where I felt like it would actually work... then for the next 20 he just kept practicing that move and pulling up for a jumper... then I had him do that move, go under his legs again, go right, and then finish with a layup... then the move and cross over left and finish with either pull up jumper or a lefty layup. That took up about 65 minutes, and then for the next 15 minutes he just did the move and then did whatever he wanted to ... so either pull up, cross over, cross over to spin... anything.

So yea that took about 80 minutes... and the whole time he was doing one move and then counter moves based off that move... and to me it was necessary and a great practice session. Now he has a new move that he can continue to practice and then use in games.

So yea I honestly think that just getting in some warm up shooting and ball handling, and then picking 1 or 2 moves that you really want to hit hard might be the best way to do it. Once you feel completely comfortable with the move, then you can take it to 1 on 1 with a buddy, and then a game.

I'm going to start training with the pro I met who plays in Germany. It's going to be hard cause I got to pay for the sessions myself but whatever, it's not like that money will be spent on a better purchase.

Still trying to save for a car though, my parents hate driving me to the gym and I need to go.

Side note: is there a reason why every time I try to jump higher when I shoot, I put more arc on the ball and subsequently lose range? It's pretty annoying because I can't add range. It seems like the higher I jump the more I lean back. My normal shot is pretty low, I jump around 4 inches I'm guessing. I use my arms more on my shot than my legs, because my range w/o jumping is around the same as it is jumping. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=carpevicis]I'm going to start training with the pro I met who plays in Germany. It's going to be hard cause I got to pay for the sessions myself but whatever, it's not like that money will be spent on a better purchase.

Still trying to save for a car though, my parents hate driving me to the gym and I need to go.

Side note: is there a reason why every time I try to jump higher when I shoot, I put more arc on the ball and subsequently lose range? It's pretty annoying because I can't add range. It seems like the higher I jump the more I lean back. My normal shot is pretty low, I jump around 4 inches I'm guessing. I use my arms more on my shot than my legs, because my range w/o jumping is around the same as it is jumping. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]

alright good luck, tell us how it goes. Even though you're probably better than me, I think it's supposed to be all about your legs. I used to use 50% arms and 50% legs. Now I use 25% wrist, 5% arm, 65% legs, 5% everything else. I think you should just train to get more vertical jump, so you can naturally jump higher. I'm 5'6 and I can touch the rim of a 10,0 hoop I'm guessing(just need about 5 more inches on my vertical TO DUNK YEA and hopefully basketball training can do that).

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]alright good luck, tell us how it goes. Even though you're probably better than me, I think it's supposed to be all about your legs. I used to use 50% arms and 50% legs. Now I use 25% wrist, 5% arm, 65% legs, 5% everything else. I think you should just train to get more vertical jump, so you can naturally jump higher. I'm 5'6 and I can touch the rim of a 10,0 hoop I'm guessing(just need about 5 more inches on my vertical TO DUNK YEA and hopefully basketball training can do that).[/QUOTE]

Damn dude you get up there. I'm 5'7" and have around a 30" max vertical but still can't even touch 9'6", it's because my standing reach is under 7'.

It's not my jumping ability that's a problem, but something else. My jump shot utilizes almost no jump and when I try and add some I end up adding more arc for some reason.

Definitely try and improve your athleticism, but remember not to over-emphasize dunking. I remember you said you were pressed for time so do what I do: instead of buying a vertical jump program, just incorporate some basic strength exercises in your workout. Squats, deadlifts at max effort and some box jumps.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]Damn dude you get up there. I'm 5'7" and have around a 30" max vertical but still can't even touch 9'6", it's because my standing reach is under 7'.

It's not my jumping ability that's a problem, but something else. My jump shot utilizes almost no jump and when I try and add some I end up adding more arc for some reason.

Definitely try and improve your athleticism, but remember not to over-emphasize dunking. I remember you said you were pressed for time so do what I do: instead of buying a vertical jump program, just incorporate some basic strength exercises in your workout. Squats, deadlifts at max effort and some box jumps.[/QUOTE]

What the hell man. When I jump straight up as hard as I can, it only seems like my vertical is 2-5 inches. When I jump with my knees to the chest
it becomes like 45-50 inches.

Hmm, I don't know what the problem, because I'm not a pro in basketball experience. Right now though, I'm training in using more arc. I shoot 2 feet away from the basket and emphasize the basketball going up 4 feet over the rim. I'm slowly going out(at 5 feet lol. hopefully by winter will be close to 3 point line).

Yeah, I stopped going to my local gym because school started. The basketball practice involves hitting the gym every practice(2 practices a week for now, will probably increase.) It exhausts my legs(practiced yesterday and still sore like crazy, I couldn't shoot right today and had to use my arms which lead to a lot of hitting the backboard then the rim and going out).

Well the goodluck to you

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]What the hell man. When I jump straight up as hard as I can, it only seems like my vertical is 2-5 inches. When I jump with my knees to the chest
it becomes like 45-50 inches.

Hmm, I don't know what the problem, because I'm not a pro in basketball experience. Right now though, I'm training in using more arc. I shoot 2 feet away from the basket and emphasize the basketball going up 4 feet over the rim. I'm slowly going out(at 5 feet lol. hopefully by winter will be close to 3 point line).

Yeah, I stopped going to my local gym because school started. The basketball practice involves hitting the gym every practice(2 practices a week for now, will probably increase.) It exhausts my legs(practiced yesterday and still sore like crazy, I couldn't shoot right today and had to use my arms which lead to a lot of hitting the backboard then the rim and going out).

Well the goodluck to you[/QUOTE]

We're talking box jumps right? Where you tuck the knees and it measures the height from floor to landing spot? Because I got a little doubt when you said 45" vert.

For me, the further I go out the less arc I have to use. It makes it trickier because you have to be more precise but it gives me more power.

How did you season start already? For my school it's fall sports season and basketball doesn't start until late November/early December. 2 practices a week is great, it gives you more time to focus on individual development. The school team for me practices 5-6 times a week. The local rec center closed so I've been moving around going to every court available in town. It's pretty cool to shoot on different hoops and really see the differences.

Good luck to your season, and definitely keep us informed on how it goes!

[QUOTE=carpevicis]
Side note: is there a reason why every time I try to jump higher when I shoot, I put more arc on the ball and subsequently lose range? It's pretty annoying because I can't add range. It seems like the higher I jump the more I lean back. My normal shot is pretty low, I jump around 4 inches I'm guessing. I use my arms more on my shot than my legs, because my range w/o jumping is around the same as it is jumping. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]

Don't try to jump higher on your jump shots unless it's absolutely necessary. It makes for a less consistent shot.

It looks impressive to get higher off the floor on jumpers, but it's not needed. Watch Paul Pierce or Manu. They both have no hops but get any shot they want.

[QUOTE=scm5]Don't try to jump higher on your jump shots unless it's absolutely necessary. It makes for a less consistent shot.

It looks impressive to get higher off the floor on jumpers, but it's not needed. Watch Paul Pierce or Manu. They both have no hops but get any shot they want.[/QUOTE]

Makes sense, but how do you get that extra range? I tried shooting some 3's today and as much legs as I used I couldn't get that kind of range. My shot efficiency drops as soon as I step past the 3 point line, the percentage drops significantly whereas right in front of it I can hit pretty consistently. Any idea how to add some range? Besides the legs?

Just got back from the Y, that was pretty cool. It was only the 2nd time I've ever been to a Y.

Did some drills involving spot up shooting and some finishing moves using pads, where someone hits me with the pad and I have to finish. Then did some cutting and screen work with some dude. He was D3 and was looking for people to train and it was great to have someone who wanted to do drills in a pickup environment. His shot was fire too.

My range wasn't too nice today though, I'll try scm5's advice tomorrow on the court.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]We're talking box jumps right? Where you tuck the knees and it measures the height from floor to landing spot? Because I got a little doubt when you said 45" vert.

For me, the further I go out the less arc I have to use. It makes it trickier because you have to be more precise but it gives me more power.

How did you season start already? For my school it's fall sports season and basketball doesn't start until late November/early December. 2 practices a week is great, it gives you more time to focus on individual development. The school team for me practices 5-6 times a week. The local rec center closed so I've been moving around going to every court available in town. It's pretty cool to shoot on different hoops and really see the differences.

Good luck to your season, and definitely keep us informed on how it goes![/QUOTE]

Oh man, I didn't know you were talking about that. I thought you meant vertical as in how high I jump. I didn't know you were talking about the [U]distance[/U] I jump. Maybe I got vertical testing wrong :O I thought it was your actual vertical jump from the height of your feet to the ground. I believe mine is around 30-35 if we're talking about that though.

Yeah, I'm still learning also. I believe they're are perfect angles for every situations, so I'm trying to learn them.

It's been pretty hard. A rush of freshmen have joined who only know how to shoot(1/4 of them are only good at shooting..and out of those 1/3 have handles and it gets lower and lower). The training coach pushes us too hard though. He makes us completely exhausted to the point of where we can't move at all for 30 seconds to minute.

Edit:Can you clarify for me again? Just tried testing what you said. It's between 48 inches-56 inches. I guess I was wrong again.

[QUOTE=scm5]Don't try to jump higher on your jump shots unless it's absolutely necessary. It makes for a less consistent shot.

It looks impressive to get higher off the floor on jumpers, but it's not needed. Watch Paul Pierce or Manu. They both have no hops but get any shot they want.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="Sienna"]I agree, you dont need to jump higher to add range, just put some more legs into it[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]Oh man, I didn't know you were talking about that. I thought you meant vertical as in how high I jump. I didn't know you were talking about the [U]distance[/U] I jump. Maybe I got vertical testing wrong :O I thought it was your actual vertical jump from the height of your feet to the ground. I believe mine is around 30-35 if we're talking about that though.

Yeah, I'm still learning also. I believe they're are perfect angles for every situations, so I'm trying to learn them.

It's been pretty hard. A rush of freshmen have joined who only know how to shoot(1/4 of them are only good at shooting..and out of those 1/3 have handles and it gets lower and lower). The training coach pushes us too hard though. He makes us completely exhausted to the point of where we can't move at all for 30 seconds to minute.

Edit:Can you clarify for me again? Just tried testing what you said. It's between 48 inches-56 inches. I guess I was wrong again.[/QUOTE]

I should clarify: when I say box jumps and "measure the height from floor to landing spot", I meant the height of the box. When testing vertical you don't measure height of feet to ground, which is a box jump. This is because like you said, you can tuck your feet in and technically add a couple inches to your jump. To get a true test, measure your standing reach, then measure your maximum reach point off any kind of jump, running or standstill (a true vertical is off a standstill). The highest point you get off that jump with your hand is the number you take, then subtract your standing reach.

How many teams does your school have? Mine has freshman, JV and varsity so rarely do freshman move up levels. I kind of prefer it that way.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]Makes sense, but how do you get that extra range? I tried shooting some 3's today and as much legs as I used I couldn't get that kind of range. My shot efficiency drops as soon as I step past the 3 point line, the percentage drops significantly whereas right in front of it I can hit pretty consistently. Any idea how to add some range? Besides the legs?[/QUOTE]

first, practice 3's more. sounds like you're just not used to it. and when you do practice, think and try to feel the connection between your arm down to your leg. they need to be in sync for the better range. when you release at the ideal moment there should be an increase in range. lot of times when a shooter don't shoot long distance shots often enough they tend to release it slightly too late and miss the benefit of the leg power. it should be in one smooth motion.

ps, i think it should be helpful to practice right where your range threshold is and build it a one feet at a time. keep on doing it until your body/brain has a good imprint of the body mechanic needed...

Worked out with the dude yesterday and his friend who did work with the Celtics, got some shots up and did some work on entry passes and cutting.

Best part was probably that I now have a plan I can follow for the next couple of weeks and see some improvements.

Also went over my desire to play in college with my parents, they kind of went with it so a great day overall.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]Worked out with the dude yesterday and his friend who did work with the Celtics, got some shots up and did some work on entry passes and cutting.

Best part was probably that I now have a plan I can follow for the next couple of weeks and see some improvements.

Also went over my desire to play in college with my parents, they kind of went with it so a great day overall.[/QUOTE]

Nice, care to tell us the workout schedule? :D/ Yeah man! Follow your dreams.

Yeah, same for my school, Freshmen/JV/Varsity. I guess I'll just stay with the freshmen team. They need alot of help...

It also turned out that I'm 5,7(guess I grew an inch). Well, I don't know about my vertical. When I do touch the 10,0 rim, my calfs just get pulled and I fall back down, because it hurts. It only works about 3/4 of the times too. When I don't strain myself, I get about 9,0 in the air. Oh yeah, strange this is that I can touch a 10,0 rim at a 24 gym/ school gym but I can't dunk a 8,0 rim(my basketball hoop at home is stretchable between 7,0 to 10,0).

Went back to the gym today with the plan to stop leaning back while shooting. The guys I worked with said it'll help with range if I stopped leaning so I focused on shooting straight up and yeah, range improvements just like that. I started dropping major threes, without worrying about jumping high. This is very good.

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]Nice, care to tell us the workout schedule? :D/ Yeah man! Follow your dreams.

Yeah, same for my school, Freshmen/JV/Varsity. I guess I'll just stay with the freshmen team. They need alot of help...

It also turned out that I'm 5,7(guess I grew an inch). Well, I don't know about my vertical. When I do touch the 10,0 rim, my calfs just get pulled and I fall back down, because it hurts. It only works about 3/4 of the times too. When I don't strain myself, I get about 9,0 in the air. Oh yeah, strange this is that I can touch a 10,0 rim at a 24 gym/ school gym but I can't dunk a 8,0 rim(my basketball hoop at home is stretchable between 7,0 to 10,0).[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'll post the workout tomorrow, I'm about to go to bed for school tomorrow then I got driver's ed afterwards so later in the night.

I'm 5'7" but I can't get rim (yet). I can dunk on 8'6" but I've been laying low on jump training to get some strength. That's weird though, you can't dunk on 8' but you can get rim? Something must be up.

Basically the workout was some ball handling, followed by 2 ball Mikan drills.

Then spot up shooting from 7 spots close range, then mid range, making sure I hit at least 6/10 from each spot or I had to shoot all of them again. Afterwards move out to mid range and repeat.

For passing we did 2 ball passing and entry passes, then entry passes with a cut followed by a layup or a shot.

Then back to spot up shooting, except this time I would run into the pass, 7 spots make 5 each.

End workout with a full court spot up catch and shoot drill followed by 5 free throws made in a row.

In between each drill I'd have to shoot free throws and they had to be perfect swishes, normal makes didn't count and misses were -1. They set a number I had to get to and I'd have to reach it.

I'm doing this everyday, I might do it twice a day but my schedule is pretty full after school with driver's ed and a job so I'll probably just do it once before school and twice once I have more time.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]Basically the workout was some ball handling, followed by 2 ball Mikan drills.

Then spot up shooting from 7 spots close range, then mid range, making sure I hit at least 6/10 from each spot or I had to shoot all of them again. Afterwards move out to mid range and repeat.

For passing we did 2 ball passing and entry passes, then entry passes with a cut followed by a layup or a shot.

Then back to spot up shooting, except this time I would run into the pass, 7 spots make 5 each.

End workout with a full court spot up catch and shoot drill followed by 5 free throws made in a row.

In between each drill I'd have to shoot free throws and they had to be perfect swishes, normal makes didn't count and misses were -1. They set a number I had to get to and I'd have to reach it.

I'm doing this everyday, I might do it twice a day but my schedule is pretty full after school with driver's ed and a job so I'll probably just do it once before school and twice once I have more time.[/QUOTE]

ooh it sounds like a nice schedule. it would be great if you had videos of you playing(I must find people to model my game after. I only have tony parker, steve nash, and maybe a couple more. I don't know any overseas ones but I'm finding them out.) Oh yeah, I finally found my final shooting form. I just have to get used to it, so I can automatically do it without thinking.

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]ooh it sounds like a nice schedule. it would be great if you had videos of you playing(I must find people to model my game after. I only have tony parker, steve nash, and maybe a couple more. I don't know any overseas ones but I'm finding them out.) Oh yeah, I finally found my final shooting form. I just have to get used to it, so I can automatically do it without thinking.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's alright but it's kind of tough to get boards cause it makes repetition shooting harder. Sorry I don't have any videos though, I don't have any kind of filming device and for the most part, I practice alone so unless someone's secretly posting vids of me on youtube, you probably won't see me.

Good work on the shooting form though, once you pick it just stick to it. In all honesty it's probably easier to master shooting the way you do instead of always tweaking it. I'm quite form conscious so it bothers me but for the most part I've been getting my form down.

What's your playing style by the way? I think you might've said but I forgot.

I don't know who I play like anymore though. I'm trying to find a person that plays like me in the nba but having a hard time(maybe a person overseas plays like me). They all pretty much have unique styles.

I like focusing on primarily one area before switching to another one. Some games I might just have about 10 alley oops to someone if they're able to beat the person guarding them easily(Most people call it cheap lol. Most of them are assists and several jump shots.). Some games I might just stand at the 3 point line and be a sort of last option(if my teammates are doing their thang, I'll just shoot 3 pointers if they have to dish it out). If I know I could beat all the other players in speed, I sort of become semi derrick rose and penetrate through all of them(just sprinting and a bunch of offensive moves including behind the back/crossover/spin/and the usual stuff).

Edit: I guess I'm just trying to find myself in basketball. The good thing is that I'm finding myself out before it's too late(A lot of people I knew that are older and play basketball started to find themselves in sophomore and junior).

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]I don't know who I play like anymore though. I'm trying to find a person that plays like me in the nba but having a hard time(maybe a person overseas plays like me). They all pretty much have unique styles.

I like focusing on primarily one area before switching to another one. Some games I might just have about 10 alley oops to someone if they're able to beat the person guarding them easily(Most people call it cheap lol. Most of them are assists and several jump shots.). Some games I might just stand at the 3 point line and be a sort of last option(if my teammates are doing their thang, I'll just shoot 3 pointers if they have to dish it out). If I know I could beat all the other players in speed, I sort of become semi derrick rose and penetrate through all of them(just sprinting and a bunch of offensive moves including behind the back/crossover/spin/and the usual stuff).

Edit: I guess I'm just trying to find myself in basketball. The good thing is that I'm finding myself out before it's too late(A lot of people I knew that are older and play basketball started to find themselves in sophomore and junior).[/QUOTE]

Same here. For the most part I'll stay around the perimeter and either make a quick move to the basket or get the ball off me. It's not that I don't like the ball on me, but I try to be as efficient as possible without wasting time. Usually if I'm with better players, I get them the ball hopefully after drawing an extra defender and let them make a move using the extra time I gave them. Then if the ball comes back to me I'll either spot up or drive and finish/dish.

It's the same for me. I found the passion mid-sophomore year. I always loved to play, but I never thought about working at it. I'll probably tell the whole story another time.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]Basically the workout was some ball handling, followed by 2 ball Mikan drills.

Then spot up shooting from 7 spots close range, then mid range, making sure I hit at least 6/10 from each spot or I had to shoot all of them again. Afterwards move out to mid range and repeat.

For passing we did 2 ball passing and entry passes, then entry passes with a cut followed by a layup or a shot.

Then back to spot up shooting, except this time I would run into the pass, 7 spots make 5 each.

End workout with a full court spot up catch and shoot drill followed by 5 free throws made in a row.

In between each drill I'd have to shoot free throws and they had to be perfect swishes, normal makes didn't count and misses were -1. They set a number I had to get to and I'd have to reach it.

I'm doing this everyday, I might do it twice a day but my schedule is pretty full after school with driver's ed and a job so I'll probably just do it once before school and twice once I have more time.[/QUOTE]

It really goes to show you in basketball you really need the "it" factor to be a very skilled or great player. I know many people who do drills like this. It goes to show you even the the best like your coach all did the basic fundamentals to get where they are.

[QUOTE=Birmingham1955]It really goes to show you in basketball you really need the "it" factor to be a very skilled or great player. I know many people who do drills like this. It goes to show you even the the best like your coach all did the basic fundamentals to get where they are.[/QUOTE]

So true. A quote I like is "People don't differ in their desire for success. People differ in the price they're willing to pay to be successful."

Everyone does basketball drills, and many people do the same ones. I know people who exclusively do workouts they see pros doing. But to me, I don't think just doing the drills is enough. My view is if I'm going to commit to getting better, I better go all out. So I just try and do as much as I can, learning and applying. Small things, like maybe walking up stairs at a time to improve balance, maybe use my offhand when I brush my teeth.

Then just doing more than other people. Waking up before school to workout, having a strict diet, getting studying done, I'm not sure if that's why you mean when you say the "it" factor, but the way I interpreted it is the desire to improve no matter what. In all honesty, it's not even as painful as people make it out to be. If you get used to waking up early and eating healthier foods, they seem pretty normal after a while. But yeah, I agree with you in that there's a certain characteristic of successful players/people compared to the common person.

Does anyone know where I can get some game tape of select NBA players? I don't watch the games but I'm trying to find some game footage of point guards so I can try and note their habits.

If anyone has clips of people like Kyle Lowry, Russell Westbrook, Jameer Nelson, Monta Ellis, Rondo, Derrick Rose, George Hill or others, could you share them?

There's lots of highlight videos on youtube but those only show highlight plays (obviously), so I'm looking for more actions over the course of a game.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]Does anyone know where I can get some game tape of select NBA players? I don't watch the games but I'm trying to find some game footage of point guards so I can try and note their habits.

If anyone has clips of people like Kyle Lowry, Russell Westbrook, Jameer Nelson, Monta Ellis, Rondo, Derrick Rose, George Hill or others, could you share them?

There's lots of highlight videos on youtube but those only show highlight plays (obviously), so I'm looking for more actions over the course of a game.[/QUOTE]

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yes always so helpful :D Does anyone know where to get full game basketball clips though? Just like you said, only highlights on youtube and other websites.

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]yes always so helpful :D Does anyone know where to get full game basketball clips though? Just like you said, only highlights on youtube and other websites.[/QUOTE]

In the sites that i posted you can find full games, :confusedshrug:

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