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Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=mrhoopfan]One of the biggest myths on tape. i recored over 200 NBA games this year that I watch repeatedly......not true.[/QUOTE]
Of course it is true. NBA teams and players have the most insanely and absurdly ridiculously inflated stats. There is virtually no defense in the NBA regular season. None.
If a player even attempts to play defense he is called "lock down defender". That means he plays defense, not that he is actually even a decent defender. In fact, you can be a horrible defender in the NBA and just by waving a hand up make the all defense team.
The NBA is an entertainment show. The rules, the refs, the league are all designed to encourage that no one plays any defense. In the NBA the Spurs are considered a good defensive team, or the Celtics, teams like that.
In the Euroleague they would be considered below average defensively.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]It's a good idea, but not practical. Navarro has probably the best floater in the history of the game. Ever since Navarro was about 18 he was just a scoring machine at ever level he ever played at. Rubio on the other hand is one of the worst scorers playing in the Euroleague. I don't think he has the agility, nor the eye hand coordination to even learn La Bomba.[/QUOTE]
You think Navarro has a better floater than Tony Parker?
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[QUOTE=UNCNY]Lakas shut up already. I've been lurking around the boards for a few weeks now,and all I see that is you are a clear troll.[/QUOTE]
lol. Welcome to ISH :cheers:
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Of course it is true. NBA teams and players have the most insanely and absurdly ridiculously inflated stats. There is virtually no defense in the NBA regular season. None.
If a player even attempts to play defense he is called "lock down defender". That means he plays defense, not that he is actually even a decent defender. In fact, you can be a horrible defender in the NBA and just by waving a hand up make the all defense team.
The NBA is an entertainment show. The rules, the refs, the league are all designed to encourage that no one plays any defense. In the NBA the Spurs are considered a good defensive team, or the Celtics, teams like that.
In the Euroleague they would be considered below average defensively.[/QUOTE]
Can you show me some clips of euroleague players playing defense and tell me how it is different from the NBA?
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[QUOTE=UNCNY]Lakas shut up already. I've been lurking around the boards for a few weeks now,and all I see that is you are a clear troll.[/QUOTE]
How so?
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[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]You think Navarro has a better floater than Tony Parker?[/QUOTE]
Parker has the second best one. Navarro can hit his running floater from 3 point range.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Of course it is true. NBA teams and players have the most insanely and absurdly ridiculously inflated stats. There is virtually no defense in the NBA regular season. None.
If a player even attempts to play defense he is called "lock down defender". That means he plays defense, not that he is actually even a decent defender. In fact, you can be a horrible defender in the NBA and just by waving a hand up make the all defense team.
The NBA is an entertainment show. The rules, the refs, the league are all designed to encourage that no one plays any defense. In the NBA the Spurs are considered a good defensive team, or the Celtics, teams like that.
In the Euroleague they would be considered below average defensively.[/QUOTE]
Then why can't the international teams guard the NBA players? Derrick Rose can blow by his man every time, Durant can score at will, they get more fastbreaks than any other Euro team, and just beat down teams by 20. And this is the second rate USA team.
And I'll bet you money, that if they're giving full effort, that the Spurs, Celtics, and Lakers could shut down and dominate the FIBA teams.
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[QUOTE=KG5MVP]All this guy can do is pass, he can't shoot, he can't penetrate, he can't score.
It's delicious watching Rubio completely useless in the final minutes of the game.
And there were people comparing him to Steve Nash and Pistol Pete, LOL.[/QUOTE]
He is compared to Pete mostly because of kindof looking exactly like him and playing like him with his flashy passing at similar size and position.... But thats about it, he aint no Pete and he aint at Petes level at all considering he cant score like him, aint clutch like him and so on.
I dont see the similarity between Ricky and Nash though? Besides both being white pointguards that like to pass?
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Parker has the second best one. Navarro can hit his running floater from 3 point range.[/QUOTE]
Video please?
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[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]Can you show me some clips of euroleague players playing defense and tell me how it is different from the NBA?[/QUOTE]
Do you really believe that NBA scores are serious and not fake? 120-109 and all those scores................
It would never happen even once in any league that played defense.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]How so?[/QUOTE]
Hmmm I don't know maybe when someone makes a rational argument that you can't answer to we see this"You're on NBA fan,you know nothing about basketball"
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[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]Can you show me some clips of euroleague players playing defense and tell me how it is different from the NBA?[/QUOTE]
The defense seems worse to me. Especially in that Spain-USA game.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Do you really believe that NBA scores are serious and not fake? 120-109 and all those scores................
It would never happen even once in any league that played defense.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe it's because the game is nearly 25% longer dumbshit.
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[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Then why can't the international teams guard the NBA players? Derrick Rose can blow by his man every time, Durant can score at will, they get more fastbreaks than any other Euro team, and just beat down teams by 20. And this is the second rate USA team.
And I'll bet you money, that if they're giving full effort, that the Spurs, Celtics, and Lakers could shut down and dominate the FIBA teams.[/QUOTE]
LOL...............unbelievable.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Do you really believe that NBA scores are serious and not fake? 120-109 and all those scores................
It would never happen even once in any league that played defense.[/QUOTE]
So all the games in the euroleague are close games?
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[QUOTE=whatever666]He is compared to Pete mostly because of kindof looking exactly like him and playing like him with his flashy passing at similar size and position.... But thats about it, he aint no Pete and he aint at Petes level at all considering he cant score like him, aint clutch like him and so on.
I dont see the similarity between Ricky and Nash though? Besides both being white pointguards that like to pass?[/QUOTE]
I've said it here a hundred times. Rubio is the Spanish version of Rondo. He has no similarity to Nash and he is the 180 degree polar opposite of Maravich. The reason he is compared to Nash and Maravich is because of the idiot writers at Sports Illustrated, SLAM Magazine, and ESPN, claiming he was as good as them.
They do that because the NBA pays them to. Part of NBA hype and marketing in order to make a big splash in the Latino market. Rubio is a fake, manufactured "star", just like LeCon is.
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[QUOTE=UNCNY]Hmmm I don't know maybe when someone makes a rational argument that you can't answer to we see this"You're on NBA fan,you know nothing about basketball"[/QUOTE]
I am just stating what is true. Don't call me a troll, for calling it like it is. If anything the fan boys here are the trolls.
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[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]The defense seems worse to me. Especially in that Spain-USA game.[/QUOTE]
Since when was Spain versus USA friendly game a Euroleague game? Since when does it have anything to do with a Euroleague game? Apparently you do not even know what the Euroleague is.
Rubio's easiest games are when he plays against Team USA because the US cannot play any defense. Rubio in FIBA, or Euroleague has never been a good offensive player.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Do you really believe that NBA scores are serious and not fake? 120-109 and all those scores................
It would never happen even once in any league that played defense.[/QUOTE]
So wait, are you saying that the Euro's leauge defense is better than the defense of the past? Because they put up those numbers back then as well. Before the removal of handchecking and the addition of the 3 seconds in the lane rule. And that's when they put a bunch of effort into defense. I surely don't see any defenders busting their ass like Charles Oakley, Dennis Rodman, Bruce Bowen, Ben Wallace, Kurt Rambis, Dave Debusschere, or just plain dominant on D like Bill Russell, Hakeem, D-Rob, Garnett, Jordan, Payton, or Stockton.
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[QUOTE=barbaroi]Or maybe it's because the game is nearly 25% longer dumbshit.[/QUOTE]
No. It's because in the NBA there is no defense. That is a fact.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Since when was Spain versus USA friendly game a Euroleague game? Since when does it have anything to do with a Euroleague game? Apparently you do not even know what the Euroleague is.
Rubio's easiest games are when he plays against Team USA because the [B]US doesn't put any effort into[/B] defense. Rubio in FIBA, or Euroleague has never been a good offensive player.[/QUOTE]
Fixed.
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Important notice:
LakasFanYo is simply making propaganda to make people hate international basketball, and piss you off. He doesn't know a single thing about NBA [B]nor[/B] international basketball. Don't let him get his way.
There, my 2 pennies for ISH.
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[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]So all the games in the euroleague are close games?[/QUOTE]
Brandon Jennings could barely even make a basket in the Euroleague. With barely any NBA experience he scored 55 in a game. The defense in the Euroleague is vastly superior to the defense in the NBA.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]LOL...............unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
How so? I actually want to hear the full explanation that Euroleauge players are more skilled at defense than the Americans.
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[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]How so? I actually want to hear the full explanation that Euroleauge players are more skilled at defense than the Americans.[/QUOTE]
His reason is in the NBA there are blowouts.
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[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]So wait, are you saying that the Euro's leauge defense is better than the defense of the past? Because they put up those numbers back then as well. Before the removal of handchecking and the addition of the 3 seconds in the lane rule. And that's when they put a bunch of effort into defense. I surely don't see any defenders busting their ass like Charles Oakley, Dennis Rodman, Bruce Bowen, Ben Wallace, Kurt Rambis, Dave Debusschere, or just plain dominant on D like Bill Russell, Hakeem, D-Rob, Garnett, Jordan, Payton, or Stockton.[/QUOTE]
How do I have to explain it to you? The NBA plays no defense. It never has, except for that 90s era. Why do you think that EVERY NBA fan that is American repeats the same EXACT catch phrase?
"Euros can't defend"? Why is that universal amongst all American NBA fans as a belief?
It's because you are told it endlessly, over and over, by NBA related media and marketing for years now. It is a never ending NBA marketing gimmick. And the reason why it is such an enormous point of emphasis is because that the NBA does not play defense and is designed that way.
It's an entertainment show and not a serious sports competition. The only time that defense is allowed even is during the playoffs. That's why only certain kinds of Americans are ever able to play in big clubs in Europe.
It's a very select and certain type of American player. The typical American players that cannot play any defense and don't even know how, simply cannot play in the high level in Europe. But in the NBA they can even have excellent careers. Because they can jump high, they can dunk, etc. It;s what the NBA wants.
The NBA is about ratings. The Euroleague is about competition. It's that simple and the fact that most NBA fans have not yet figured that out is actually rather pathetic.
It's amazing to watch say an NFL game and then an NBA game and to think that most sports fans in the US can't seem to see the difference. NFL is a competition, NBA is sports entertainment, just one small step above the WWE.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]How do I have to explain it to you? The NBA plays no defense. It never has, except for that 90s era. Why do you think that EVERY NBA fan that is American repeats the same EXACT catch phrase?
"Euros can't defend"? Why is that universal amongst all American NBA fans as a belief?
It's because you are told it endlessly, over and over, by NBA related media and marketing for years now. It is a never ending NBA marketing gimmick. And the reason why it is such an enormous point of emphasis is because that the NBA does not play defense and is designed that way.
It's an entertainment show and not a serious sports competition. The only time that defense is allowed even is during the playoffs. That's why only certain kinds of Americans are ever able to play in big clubs in Europe.
It's a very select and certain type of American player. The typical American players that cannot play any defense and don't even know how, simply cannot play in the high level in Europe. But in the NBA they can even have excellent careers. Because they can jump high, they can dunk, etc. It;s what the NBA wants.
The NBA is about ratings. The Euroleague is about competition. It's that simple and the fact that most NBA fans have not yet figured that out is actually rather pathetic.
It's amazing to watch say an NFL game and then an NBA game and to think that most sports fans in the US can't seem to see the difference. NFL is a competition, NBA is sports entertainment, just one small step above the WWE.[/QUOTE]
Just wondering what country are you from?
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]How do I have to explain it to you? The NBA plays no defense. It never has, except for that 90s era. Why do you think that EVERY NBA fan that is American repeats the same EXACT catch phrase?
"Euros can't defend"? Why is that universal amongst all American NBA fans as a belief?
It's because you are told it endlessly, over and over, by NBA related media and marketing for years now. It is a never ending NBA marketing gimmick. And the reason why it is such an enormous point of emphasis is because that the NBA does not play defense and is designed that way.
It's an entertainment show and not a serious sports competition. The only time that defense is allowed even is during the playoffs. That's why only certain kinds of Americans are ever able to play in big clubs in Europe.
It's a very select and certain type of American player. The typical American players that cannot play any defense and don't even know how, simply cannot play in the high level in Europe. But in the NBA they can even have excellent careers. Because they can jump high, they can dunk, etc. It;s what the NBA wants.
The NBA is about ratings. The Euroleague is about competition. It's that simple and the fact that most NBA fans have not yet figured that out is actually rather pathetic.
It's amazing to watch say an NFL game and then an NBA game and to think that most sports fans in the US can't seem to see the difference. NFL is a competition, NBA is sports entertainment, just one small step above the WWE.[/QUOTE]
Okay break down how to play defense and tell us how NBA players can't do it, you probably don't have a clue of how to play the game.
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[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]How so? I actually want to hear the full explanation that Euroleauge players are more skilled at defense than the Americans.[/QUOTE]
You don't listen. NBA is a league where you are not supposed to play defense. There is a handful of players that defend in the whole league. In a lot of European clubs, like say Greek or Adriatic ones, most NBA players would be benched, or cut within a week.
Because they don't defend and it's not allowed. If LeBron took off a play on defense in Europe he would be benched and then the press and fans would be mad at him. In the NBA if the coach did that he would probably be fired the next day.
It has nothing to do with "defensive skills". You are just imagining nonsense and making things up. It's simply that the NBA is a league that emphasizes not to play defense.
It's not just good FIBA level, or good European leagues either. It's most leagues other than the NBA. And it's also NCAA. NCAA plays way harder defense and more physical game than what you see in the NBA.
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[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]His reason is in the NBA there are blowouts.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and it's ironic when many of the games so far have been blowouts.
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[QUOTE=UNCNY]Just wondering what country are you from?[/QUOTE]
I'm Basque. And yes, I think the ACB has the worst defense of all the important leagues in Europe.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]You don't listen. NBA is a league where you are not supposed to play defense. There is a handful of players that defend in the whole league. In a lot of European clubs, like say Greek or Adriatic ones, most NBA players would be benched, or cut within a week.
Because they don't defend and it's not allowed. If LeBron took off a play on defense in Europe he would be benched and then the press and fans would be mad at him. In the NBA if the coach did that he would probably be fired the next day.
It has nothing to do with "defensive skills". You are just imagining nonsense and making things up. It's simply that the NBA is a league that emphasizes not to play defense.
It's not just good FIBA level, or good European leagues either. It's most leagues other than the NBA. And it's also NCAA. NCAA plays way harder defense and more physical game than what you see in the NBA.[/QUOTE]The NCAA part I agree with you on but I don't enjoy the NCAA more only because of that. I find the atmosphere better,and the long NBA season is hard to watch until playoffs when it gets interesting.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]You don't listen. NBA is a league where you are not supposed to play defense. There is a handful of players that defend in the whole league. In a lot of European clubs, like say Greek or Adriatic ones, most NBA players would be benched, or cut within a week.
Because they don't defend and it's not allowed. If LeBron took off a play on defense in Europe he would be benched and then the press and fans would be mad at him. In the NBA if the coach did that he would probably be fired the next day.
It has nothing to do with "defensive skills". You are just imagining nonsense and making things up. It's simply that the NBA is a league that emphasizes not to play defense.
It's not just good FIBA level, or good European leagues either. It's most leagues other than the NBA. And it's also NCAA. NCAA plays way harder defense and more physical game than what you see in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to ask this one more time: are you even able to watch all of the NBA games over where you live?
By the way everybody; here's some videos of Euroleauge to compare:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC5rsGBLnq0[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvY8ZRjpS2c&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGqQSHQ4Kv8&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4JfDr6jczY&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhuN2yi4ZW4&feature=related[/url]
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[QUOTE=UNCNY]The NCAA part I agree with you on but I don't enjoy the NCAA more only because of that. I find the atmosphere better,and the long NBA season is hard to watch until playoffs when it gets interesting.[/QUOTE]
So you agree with me then. So why are you arguing so much about it?
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]So you agree with me then. So why are you arguing so much about it?[/QUOTE]
He said the NCAA part.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]So you agree with me then. So why are you arguing so much about it?[/QUOTE]
I agreed with you on one thing not everything. Do I agree that no one in the NBA plays defense? NO
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]It's a good idea, but not practical. Navarro has probably the best floater in the history of the game.[/QUOTE]
Comedy.
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Stop feeding the troll. they thrive on attention just give it up and starve him to death.
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Ricky Rubio's stats for today's game
28 minutes played
1/7 FG, 14.3% shooting
2 rebounds
2 assists
2 turnovers
3 points.
GOAT.
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Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
Rubio is a bench warmer in the NBA. Minnesota dropped the ball again.