[QUOTE=Faberg]Can I get the Player Ratings for the Suns please? :D[/QUOTE]
uno momento!
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[QUOTE=Faberg]Can I get the Player Ratings for the Suns please? :D[/QUOTE]
uno momento!
STEVE NASH, PG
Projection: 19.0 pts, 3.9 reb, 13.0 ast per 40 min; 19.92 PER | Player card
HAKIM WARRICK, PF
Projection: 18.0 pts, 8.1 reb, 1.4 ast per 40 min; 15.38 PER | Player card
[QUOTE=Rose]uno momento![/QUOTE]
Because he is a Suns fan you think he is mexican? Douche.....
Thanks! That was quick! I gave you some rep. :cheers:
clippers???
[QUOTE=Skep]Because he is a Suns fan you think he is mexican? Douche.....[/QUOTE]
Chill mormon. Mexicans aren't even allowed in Arizona anymore. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Rose]Chill mormon. Mexicans aren't even allowed in Arizona anymore. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=mmmarvinsays]clippers???[/QUOTE]
gimme a moment or two.
BARON DAVIS, PG
17.0 pts, 4.3 reb, 8.7 ast per 40 min; 15.92 PER | Player card
DeANDRE JORDAN, C
Projection: 12.0 pts, 11.9 reb, 0.7 ast per 40 min; 12.81 PER | Player card
Rose, can you give me the Blazers?
[QUOTE=Maga_1]Rose, can you give me the Blazers?[/QUOTE]
Can you gimme dat ass in yo avy? of course:cheers:
ANDRE MILLER, PG
Projection: 17.0 pts, 4.0 reb, 6.4 ast per 40 min; 16.08 PER | Player card
JERRYD BAYLESS, PG
Projection: 19.6 pts, 3.7 reb, 5.2 ast per 40 min; 14.08 PER | Player card
Lakers?
[QUOTE=Rose]Can you gimme dat ass in yo avy? of course:cheers:[/QUOTE]
thanks a lot. repped
[QUOTE=sagr32]Lakers?[/QUOTE]
This. I want to see what he has to say about Bynum.
[QUOTE=12shyloc26]This. I want to see what he has to say about Bynum.[/QUOTE]
Didn't see the lakers request before. My b one second!
EREK FISHER, PG
Projection: 11.6 pts, 3.1 reb, 3.8 ast per 40 min; 9.10 PER | Player card
STEVE BLAKE, PG
Projection: 10.6 pts, 3.3 reb, 6.3 ast per 40 min; 10.73 PER | Player card
Bulls
[QUOTE=Go Getter]Bulls[/QUOTE]
suck
According to this Kevin Love will put up 20/15/3 and Anthony Randolph will have have better numbers than Amare.
Ok.
[QUOTE=AirGauge23]According to this Kevin Love will put up 20/15/3 and Anthony Randolph will have have better numbers than Amare.
Ok.[/QUOTE]
:roll: @ Hollinger.
Please put up the Celtics.
[QUOTE=OnceInADECADE]i stopped reading there :lol :lol :lol[/QUOTE]
Then you didn't read far enough. All the stat projections is if the player played 40 minutes per game.
P.S. - Everyone isn't noticing that all the players are at 40 minutes per game, which no one plays anymore. So you can reduce their stats drastically from what you say to what time they'll actually get to play.
So Mozgov will be a better rebounder than Camby, Oden, Lopez, Kaman and Jefferson?!
What i don't get is some players improvement he sites as abberations, while others it will continue. He never cites why he feels this way. On the Knicks, Felton's shooting improvement is an abberation and Walker's is true growth.
[quote]LeBRON JAMES, SF
Projection: 29.0 pts, 7.3 reb, 8.3 ast [b]per 40 min;[/b][/quote]
What!? He played ~39 (38.95) minutes last season.... and averaged 29.7 ppg, 7.3 reb, 8.6 apg.... how does he average LESS if playing more? :wtf:
He averaged exactly:
0.7625 points per 1 min
0.1880 rebounds per 1 min
0.2214 assists per 1 min
So... Per 40 that makes it:
0.7625 x 40 = [B]30.5[/B] points per 40 min
0.1880 x 40 = [B]7.5[/B] rebounds per 40 min
0.2214 x 40 = [B]8.9[/B] assists per 40 min
:ll at chi nk being censored
[QUOTE=evilmonkey]What!? He played ~39 (38.95) minutes last season.... and averaged 29.7 ppg, 7.3 reb, 8.6 apg.... how does he average LESS if playing more? :wtf:
He averaged exactly:
0.7625 points per 1 min
0.1880 rebounds per 1 min
0.2214 assists per 1 min
So... Per 40 that makes it:
0.7625 x 40 = [B]30.5[/B] points per 40 min
0.1880 x 40 = [B]7.5[/B] rebounds per 40 min
0.2214 x 40 = [B]8.9[/B] assists per 40 min[/QUOTE]
Scoring goes down with Bosh/Wade. Assist going down with Wade. That 0.2 in rebound is negligible.
After all, this is just a projection.
[QUOTE=noob cake]Scoring goes down with Bosh/Wade.[/quote]
Agree
[quote]Assist going down with Wade.[/quote]
I just cant see that... doesnt make sense with such caliber of teammates he has around Lebron, especially considering Spoelstra will use Lebron at PG very often aswell.... Sure he will share those playmaking duties with Wade, but you have to understand Lebron will be much more in so to say "Magic Johnson" mode around these teammates, he will pass more than ever before and his teammates will be able to finish of those passes of his like never before...
If you take a look at Olympics where he played with CP3, J-Kidd, Wade and so on, he still led them in assists... it doesnt matter what kindof playmakers he has around him, he will get assists, thats just his game. Now im not sure how much it will be in Heat but i can guarantee he will lead them in assists....
[quote]That 0.2 in rebound is negligible.[/quote]
He might actually average more rebounds, in Cleveland he had much grittier rebound hogers...
The only problem will be minutes/playing time, Heat will blowout many which means he will sitout alot of 4th quarters. His points is guaranteed going down though, rebounds have no idea about... but assists will skyrocket for him, unless playing time gives a problem again ofcourse.
[QUOTE=evilmonkey]Agree
I just cant see that... doesnt make sense with such caliber of teammates he has around Lebron, especially considering Spoelstra will use Lebron at PG very often aswell.... Sure he will share those playmaking duties with Wade, but you have to understand Lebron will be much more in so to say "Magic Johnson" mode around these teammates, he will pass more than ever before and his teammates will be able to finish of those passes of his like never before...
He might actually average more rebounds, in Cleveland he had much grittier rebound hogers...
The only problem will be minutes/playing time, Heat will blowout many which means he will sitout alot of 4th quarters. His points is guaranteed going down though, rebounds have no idea about... but assists will skyrocket for him, unless playing time gives a problem again ofcourse.[/QUOTE]
His assists probably wont go up by a whole lot(if at all) because he's not going to have the ball as much in the half court as last year.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster]His assists probably wont go up by a whole lot(if at all) because he's not going to have the ball as much in the half court as last year.[/QUOTE]
You are right but like i said again... you have to understand that he never had these kindof caliber of teammates before, he will pass much more and will be more of a "point-forward" and his teammates will finish of his passes more.
Magic Johnson for example averaged MUCH less possessions than Lebron, Nash, Deron and so on average much less ball dominating possessions aswell... but they still averaged more assists? Why? Because they passed more...
Heat will have MUCH more faster pace than Lebrons former team aswell, which will also create more possessions....
Spoelstra said numerous times Lebron/Wade will be used as main ballhandlers most of the time... and we all know how ball dominant Lebron is... and im sure Wade wouldnt mind it considering he will get much more scoring oppurtunities for him and considering he can concentrate more on scoring.
[QUOTE=niko]What i don't get is some players improvement he sites as abberations, while others it will continue. He never cites why he feels this way. On the Knicks, Felton's shooting improvement is an abberation and Walker's is true growth.[/QUOTE]
I think it would mainly have to do with age/experience in the league. Walker's at the point in his career where natural improvement in numbers is accepted, if not expected. Whereas Felton has passed the point where you'll considerable improvement due to age and standing in the league, therefore if the numbers show an improvement in his numbers, it's likely to assume that it's an aberration of an uptick rather than continued progress (think Luke Ridnour last season). I'm not saying that it's necessarily right, but that's the line of thinking anyway.
A few other points:
Hollinger's model is regression based, so most of the projections are going to to skew towards the middle (which works both ways, high and low). The model doesn't really predict Lebron to continue at his insane pace that he had the last two seasons (although the model had his PER lower last season than it did this year). It's the same way with the team projections, if it seems a little low, think of it as the model hedging its bets (as in it's easier to think moderate than it is to go real high or real low).
Also, he uses per40 numbers for two reasons. 1. it's easier for comparison. If everyone is at the same level, it's easier to see where they differ. Obviously he expects his readers to be smart about the process and realize that someone like Mozgov isn't going to average anywhere close to 40 minutes a game and adjust accordingly (although that might be asking too much). If you read what he's writing, he's fully aware and points out the flaws that will keep them from being significant contributors in minutes. 2. it's extremely difficult to predict what a player is going to average in terms of minutes from season to season. There are several factors that change even during the season that will throw off a players minutes (how good a team is, injuries, etc...). So rather than try and figure out what their minutes might be (which really isn't the point he's trying to work with), it's just easier to put them all on a level playing field and then go into depth about what might/will hold them back.
DERRICK ROSE, PG
Projection: 23.5 pts, 4.1 reb, 6.6 ast per 40 min; 19.42 PER | Player card
JAMES JOHNSON, SF
Projection: 13.6 pts, 6.6 reb, 2.7 ast per 40 min; 11.36 PER | Player card
Someone wanna post Indy so I can add Hollinger to the list of national writers that knows jack shit about the team?
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Someone wanna post Indy so I can add Hollinger to the list of national writers that knows jack shit about the team?[/QUOTE]
Lol Indy's is coming right up