Cousins kicked out of practice

[QUOTE=Hiei]He is a rookie, how can he have that much attitude. :facepalm

I guess his only excuse is that most people on that team are scrubs.[/QUOTE]



Because some of these rooks know their potential, or hear about the hype surrounding themselves, and they buy into it, eat it up, and get drunk on it.


Humility goes a long way in the NBA early on. When a kid's attitude becomes bigger than the game itself, it can literally DESTROY their careers....I mean I can shoot off a bunch of names along the years, that could have had nice careers had their checked their attitudes early on.


The last thing a player needs is a bad rep.....it can literally DESTROY their marketability around the league to the point where no one will want to take a chance on them, knowing their potential to be a cancer to a team....regardless of their talent!

Such a shame.


Hes young though so who knows?

I was hoping he could prove people wrong, he was my darkhorse for ROY

Welcome to your first step out of the NBA Demarcus Cousins. Go join Sean Williams wherever he is.

Yep.....a disruptive player, can be as damaging as an "injury prone" rep....teams just wont take that chance...I mean christ, look what happened to AI after her completely killed his reputation along the years. AI could STILL contribute today if he wasnt a pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Yep.....a disruptive player, can be as damaging as an "injury prone" rep....teams just wont take that chance...I mean christ, look what happened to AI after her completely killed his reputation along the years. AI could STILL contribute today if he wasnt a pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]
I think that's mostly because Stern hates him.

I would say someone with the talent to be in the NBA who's gotten a bad rap he can't shake is Rashad McCants. And yes I'm only bringing him up because ESPN has lately. I didn't know that was the reason he wasn't making a roster.

At least AI was proven. Cousins aiming for a minimum contract and then out of the league. The guy doesn't have the mental capacity to last in the league.

Demarcus cousins is a cancer to his team and the league.

[QUOTE=thomaspynchon]I don't understand the Cousins hype. He really blows. He's overweight, can't shoot, has no athleticism, and doesn't know what to do on the floor.

Can someone please explain to me how he's talented?[/QUOTE]
He's actually very athletic for a big man, he just doesn't have explosive vert. He can shoot, usually pretty consistently out to 18 feet in the midrange area. And he's got great passing skills for a player this young at his position. His problem is that he doesn't know his limits. He will often try to do too much to create, which ends up in a bad shot or turnover.

lol...

I don't think the coach is helping it out, either. And that team doesn't have anyone to stand up to him. Imagine him on the same team as someone like Shaq or even someone like Kobe. They'd help him out a lot.

I think he truly believes he can get traded from that team. But I don't think he can. It would be stupid to trade him and nobody is going to come at them with a worthwhile offer.

Dude is really good. He's got a lot of mental toughness. He's just channeling it the wrong way. And the coach is feeding into it by trying to fight with him.

Why kick him out of practice? No reason for that. It's like back in the day when people would say you're misbehaving you get out of school suspension... lol then you go out and party.

If they trade Cousins, I hope he goes to a good team. Man there are so many places he could go and succeed.

-Smak

[QUOTE=ILLsmak]lol...

I don't think the coach is helping it out, either.[U] And that team doesn't have anyone to stand up to him. Imagine him on the same team as someone like Shaq or even someone like Kobe. They'd help him out a lot.
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I think he truly believes he can get traded from that team. But I don't think he can. It would be stupid to trade him and nobody is going to come at them with a worthwhile offer.

Dude is really good. He's got a lot of mental toughness. He's just channeling it the wrong way. And the coach is feeding into it by trying to fight with him.

Why kick him out of practice? No reason for that. It's like back in the day when people would say you're misbehaving you get out of school suspension... lol then you go out and party.

If they trade Cousins, I hope he goes to a good team. Man there are so many places he could go and succeed.

-Smak[/QUOTE]
What happened to Evans?:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=lilWesleyJ4]What happened to Evans?:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Tyreke Evans sucks

OF COURSE cousins should be kicked out of practice. You can't have distant family members just roaming around. Basketball is serious business!

This kid has more attitude then an inebriated Rosanne Bar and beyond that he's clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed from an intelligence standpoint. You've got an opportunity nesting on your plate that millions could only dream to obtain. An injury is one nothing, but there's nothing more shameful then a talented player who stunts his own progress due to unsound personality traits. Despite the negative tone in my post, I really would like to see this kid pull it together and I'm confident he can as time surpasses...

[QUOTE=ILLsmak]lol...

I don't think the coach is helping it out, either. And that team doesn't have anyone to stand up to him. Imagine him on the same team as someone like Shaq or even someone like Kobe. They'd help him out a lot.

I think he truly believes he can get traded from that team. But I don't think he can. It would be stupid to trade him and nobody is going to come at them with a worthwhile offer.

Dude is really good. He's got a lot of mental toughness. He's just channeling it the wrong way. And the coach is feeding into it by trying to fight with him.

Why kick him out of practice? No reason for that. It's like back in the day when people would say you're misbehaving you get out of school suspension... lol then you go out and party.

If they trade Cousins, I hope he goes to a good team. Man there are so many places he could go and succeed.

-Smak[/QUOTE]

Come on man stop making excuses for dude. There are plenty of reasons to kick him out of practice. Back in school? How can you compare school and the professional basketball league? This is Cousins career. He shouldnt have declared. People say these kids have a right to enter the NBA and recieve millions dispite not earning it. Well when you make that jump the responsibility exceeds even moreso than it did when you went from high school to college. This isnt college, AAU, high school anymore. This is the big leagues.

[QUOTE=kumquat]The guy doesn't have the mental capacity to last in the league.[/QUOTE]Sad but true. If he was just as passive as tyrus though, he could stick around for a few years, but close-to-retarded, and angry/violent ? That boy will end up in prison within 5 years of exiting the NBA, either on gun or domestic assault/battery charges.

[QUOTE=lilWesleyJ4]What happened to Evans?:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]He can't drive left, or shoot....and scouting reports on a 2nd year player like that can devestate such a limited game.

I really hope this guy turns it around and realizes he is a pupil and needs to be a sponge and take in all this NBA information he has been given, and not complain or question it. Too many talented players have gone down this road, only to see them not achieve their potential or have their careers cut short because of it.

He has had a bad attitude for all of his basketball career, and I think they signed on his high school coach to help alleviate this.

At this stage of his career, you always hope that they want to learn and are willing to do whatever it takes to get better. Not always the best option to question your coach as a rook 15 games into the season

[QUOTE=BarberSchool]He can't drive left, or shoot....and scouting reports on a 2nd year player like that can devestate such a limited game.[/QUOTE]
The point is though that Evans should be the leader of that team and try to humble Cousins.

I'm not surprised at all. He has a very negative attitude and often results in frustration. He needs to learn to accept advice and criticism because it's very easy to get a bad rep in this league.

[QUOTE=lilWesleyJ4]The point is though that Evans should be the leader of that team and try to humble Cousins.[/QUOTE]

I heard Evans is all about the stats:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=GOBB]Come on man stop making excuses for dude. There are plenty of reasons to kick him out of practice. Back in school? How can you compare school and the professional basketball league? This is Cousins career. He shouldnt have declared. People say these kids have a right to enter the NBA and recieve millions dispite not earning it. Well when you make that jump the responsibility exceeds even moreso than it did when you went from high school to college. This isnt college, AAU, high school anymore. This is the big leagues.[/QUOTE]

But the point is that if someone is misbehaving you don't tell them to get out. That is, in a way, conceding. That doesn't help growth. I'm not comparing school to the NBA, I'm comparing the idea of getting a free day because you misbehave.

I'm not really making excuses; I'm trying to say that this 'way of handling things' isn't going to work. I think he's a good player. I think that he's being poorly handled... but he's also ****ing up.

What do you guys think? That hes going to get cut and never play in the NBA? I doubt it.

And to whoever said Tyreke... I don't think Tyreke is the leader type.

There is obviously a deeper reason behind all of this, and I don't think it's just some minor conflict. I don't even know if it has to do with the coach as much as the team. They'd be better trying to actually figure out what is making him mad instead of trying to whip him into shape. Some people just don't ever break.

That's a good quality as a basketball player and they need to find a way to channel it. He needs to be back in the starting lineup. Like I said before, if he wants to play, let him play. Don't take him out for fouls or when he's tired. Make him ask to be taken out.

-Smak

[QUOTE=lilWesleyJ4]The point is though that Evans should be the leader of that team and try to humble Cousins.[/QUOTE]Oh, right, then....true....knowing what Tyreke went thru himself, he should be the grown man and father cousins out of this type of behavior....and cousins, being the Fugazi-wannabe-tough-guy Bamma that he is, should have utmost respect for Tyreke on that level.....it's just up to Tyreke to step up and excercise that authority.

To continue, not everyone can be treated the same. This isn't the army, you know. If you start treating everyone the same and one person doesn't accept it, why is it the common reaction to say well, everyone else accepts it so therefore you are being a baby. And then to continue to try to treat them the same or, even, be more harsh on them.

Even if you do succeed in breaking them, you have changed them and they don't like you. It's kind of like all of those people who get kidnapped and locked in someone's basement for 10 years. They might not talk back, but they have a very skewed perception of you.

People say he shouldn't be treated differently. Why not? He was a top pick. As an investment, he deserves more than any other player on the team other than Tyreke. Obviously, you don't worship him, but it makes a lot more sense to try to cater to his needs and see what he's trying to do.

Like I said, though... not everyone is the same. People are motivated differently and some people hate being told what to do and, generally, resent authority. Do you really think that means they can't play in the NBA? That's bullshit. In another career, those people would become leaders or own their own company but in the NBA, apparently, everyone has to be a soldier or a slave to the coach.

There are other ways to motivate people, and it's really pathetic that some of you guys see other forms of motivation as bending to his will. I guess they'd rather him hate the coach and jack up 3s. heh. It's not about winning against your own players... it's about winning the game. And you need to get your best players out on the court and ready to play as hard as they can.

But it's really up to them because eventually he will end up somewhere and be handled correctly and will succeed. People mention players like Rasheed or Iverson as guys who had their career influenced by their attitude but really, those guys were studs. I don't think that's a bad thing.

-Smak

[QUOTE=ILLsmak]But the point is that if someone is misbehaving you don't tell them to get out. That is, in a way, conceding. That doesn't help growth. I'm not comparing school to the NBA, I'm comparing the idea of getting a free day because you misbehave.

-Smak[/QUOTE]

You're not getting a free day. To the student/player who thinks they get a free day are totally missing the point. Especially the player. Getting thrown out of practice should make you ask yourself what did I do wrong? What do I need to do so I dont get thrown out again. Celebrating a day off is assbackwards. The player should be thinking about talkin to the coach about the issues at hand. Not enjoying the rest of the day off. Getting thrown out of practice in front of your peers should be embarrassing. Shouldnt be something you giggle and laugh [I]"haha yall gotta practice, I got the day off"[/I].

This is professional basketball. Its not a good look to get tossed out no matter how you spin it. And we dont even know if Cousins has been a repeated offender from whatever he is doin to make the coach react in that manner. Maybe his manuerisms, attitude was annoying, negative and the coach was fed up with it. If you dont want to be here, there is the door. See ya. I dont know what happened/what was said. Just saying thinking getting tossed out of practice isnt a good method I dont buy at all. He may have been a distraction, a downer. Maybe the coach didnt want his attitude on other guys who wanted to practice and work.

The coach is not a babysitter. Before anything he needs to command respect and instill discipline in the players he coaches. If someone isnt on the same page as that. Coach doesnt have to put up with it. See ya, hit the shower and hopefully you reflect on what happened today and adjust.

[QUOTE=ILLsmak]To continue, not everyone can be treated the same. This isn't the army, you know. If you start treating everyone the same and one person doesn't accept it, why is it the common reaction to say well, everyone else accepts it so therefore you are being a baby. And then to continue to try to treat them the same or, even, be more harsh on them. [/quote]

Huh? You think the successful teams in the NBA, everyone isnt on the same page? What is this rebellious attitude you're promoting? Everyone is going right, you go left and thats ok. Because i'm different so everyone adjust to you going left. Get out of here. I dont get that.

[QUOTE]People say he shouldn't be treated differently. Why not? He was a top pick. As an investment, he deserves more than any other player on the team other than Tyreke. Obviously, you don't worship him, but it makes a lot more sense to try to cater to his needs and see what he's trying to do. [/QUOTE]

He's proven nothing. He's a rookie. He's never been successful at the professional level. To think you have to cater to his needs is beyond hilarious and not dealing with reality. Go back to school and finish the rest of your college career. This is one argument why kids making the jump as "not ready" becomes somewhat valid. Pay your dues.

[QUOTE]Like I said, though... not everyone is the same. People are motivated differently and some people hate being told what to do and, generally, resent authority. Do you really think that means they can't play in the NBA? That's bullshit.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?

Demarcus Cousins is this you? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]Tyreke Evans sucks[/QUOTE]
He's dealing with sprained ankles + Plantar fasciitis.

20 and 8 in 23 minutes tonight.

[QUOTE=Showtime]He's dealing with sprained ankles + Plantar fasciitis.[/QUOTE]

He must be a huge ***** if he's 21 years old and already faking injuries.

[QUOTE=ukfan22]20 and 8 in 23 minutes tonight.[/QUOTE]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[QUOTE=thomaspynchon]He must be a huge ***** if he's 21 years old and already faking injuries.[/QUOTE]

Can you please shut the hell up? Thank you.

I still feel Cousin's "headcase" are overblown instances of an immature man with a major ego. Still Paul Westphal was not the right coach to put with Cosuins. Cousins needs a strong personality that can be almost fatherly to him. That's why he worked so well at Kentucky with John Calipari.