TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!

[QUOTE=barkleynash]Two seperate trades would certainly turn the magic into long time contenders.
Lewis to Washington for Arenas. The wiz need to get rid of Arenas, and Orlando needs to get rid of Lewis. That's a pretty fair trade.
The other trade would be a huge blockbuster, Gortat, Nelson and Carter for Chris Paul.

Orlando would be very good.
Paul Duhon Williams
Arenas Reddick
Pietrus Q Rich
Bass Anderson
Howard Malik Allen

N.O
Nelson, Jack
Carter, Thornton bellinelli
Ariza bellinelli
west Anderson.
Okafor Gortat

Respectable team at this point they are kind of nose diving, and with the league taking over the team, respectability is all they are going to get.[/QUOTE]

retard. :facepalm

[QUOTE=barkleynash]Two seperate trades would certainly turn the magic into long time contenders.
Lewis to Washington for Arenas. The wiz need to get rid of Arenas, and Orlando needs to get rid of Lewis. That's a pretty fair trade.
The other trade would be a huge blockbuster, Gortat, Nelson and Carter and a first rounder for Chris Paul.

Orlando would be very good.
Paul Duhon Williams
Arenas Reddick
Pietrus Q Rich
Bass Anderson
Howard Malik Allen

N.O
Nelson, Jack
Carter, Thornton bellinelli
Ariza bellinelli
west Anderson.
Okafor Gortat

Respectable team at this point they are kind of nose diving, and with the league taking over the team, respectability is all they are going to get.

Orlando becomes more of a running team with paul, have a better inside out game with Arenas and can keep Bass in the starting line-up and space the floor with Anderson taking Rashard's job of three point shooting . I have no problem with bass, howard and Anderson being my 3 big man rotation. Gortat would be expendable in my view.[/QUOTE]

To get the salaries to work, even with NO's trade exception, NO would have to give up Ariza, West, or Okafor, and they aren't doing that.

Orlando needs to stop playing and get Steve Nash. He would solve a bunch of problems they have and who cares cares if they give up Nelson, I believe Nash (even at 35) has two or three years left of being a elitle level pg and 18/10 w. a bunch of scrubs says so. Orlando should try to make that deal first then they could try and trade two of the three ( vc, lewis, gortat) and maybe get a iggy, captin jack, gerald wallace or try to steal melo or josh smith from the ATL.

[QUOTE=Funnyfuka]All of this is retarded and screams amateurism and strategical mistakes. [B]Dwight s pressing the staff or threatening to quit obviously.[/B] Whats the point of changing pieces to obtain a team that in the end is as good or worse but no better at all than what they had in the first place. Bringing back tuboglu is the icing on the cake. Ridiculous. Screams "we have no clue what to do and are desperate". It's like going back to an ex girlfirend cause you cant get any new *****.

What a pathetitc state orlando is in. Who would have thought. It's way too late. No chip next year either it seems.[/QUOTE]

to get Hedo again ? :lol

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The only way Phoenix is going to let Nash go is if you take a couple of those horrible contracts with him.

Want Nash? Want some Turkododo, Childress, Frye and Warrick with that? Otherwise obviously it's not worth it for Phoenix. Nash is the face of the franchise, his contract is a bargain and Phoenix doesn't even have any young talent to rebuild with.



edit: lol, that's probably the way Phoenix talks on the phone too.
Magic: "Hello, we are inquiring about the availability of Steve Nash"
Suns: "Want some Frye's with that?"

shard for arenas ???? doesnt make sense to me

So who plays PF for Orlando without Lewis? i don't know their rotation. Bass?

Arenas makes so much sense for the Magic, though I can imagine coach going crazy :roll: :roll:

basicall getting rid of carter and lewis makes em way better and bigger.
move bass into the starting rotation, get turgolu who had his best years with orlando to sf. arenas can play sg and pg with nelson in the backcourt.

More chuckers, whatever, suit yourself. :roll:

[QUOTE=GilZero]Arenas makes so much sense for the Magic, though I can imagine coach going crazy :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]

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lewis for arenas is great for the magic.

then they can move carter's expiring 17 million dollar deal and gortat for a great package. potentially melo/billups or melo/bird man or something like that....or they could get involved in a 3 team deal and go after a gerald wallace or something. rashard lewis is a joke. at least arenas can go for 50 if you don't guard him.

the magic have all the assets to make their team ten times better over night. i hope they do it.

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caption:

arenas: your so LeFu*ked in cleavland..bang bang

jamson: yea i know

rest of the team: OhhhSnappp

[QUOTE=LJJ]The only way Phoenix is going to let Nash go is if you take a couple of those horrible contracts with him.

Want Nash? Want some Turkododo, Childress, Frye and Warrick with that? Otherwise obviously it's not worth it for Phoenix. Nash is the face of the franchise, his contract is a bargain and Phoenix doesn't even have any young talent to rebuild with.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Could definitely be worth it, because they need an elite play-making point guard. However If I was them I'd be going hard for Chris Paul instead. I think this deal could work -

[url]http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2734typ[/url]

[B][U]Orlando[/U][/B]
Chris Paul (3 yrs $49 mil)
Emeka Okafor(4 yrs $52 mil)
Marcus Thornton (1 yrs $762k)
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Difference: [B]$34.8 mil more[/B] [traded ($67 mil) received ($101.8 mil)]

[B][U]New Orleans[/U][/B]
Vince Carter (expirer $17 mil)
Jameer Nelson (3 yrs $22 mil)
Marcin Gortat (4 yrs $28 mil)
2 Future 1st Round Picks
-------------------------------
Difference: [B]$34.8 mil less[/B] [traded ($101.8 mil) received ($67 mil)]

[B]Why Orlando does it[/B] This trade makes an elite team even better. The one thing Orlando has lacked for all these years has been an elite playmaker to get the ball to Dwight. Paul solves that problem.

Paul | Duhon | Williams
Thornton | Reddick
Richardson | Pietrus
Lewis | Bass | Warrick
Howard | Okafor | Orton

[B]Why New Orleans does it?[/B] This deal would save them about $35 mil altogether and relieve their payroll for next season by about $15 mil (which as things stand now would give them the cap space to offer someone a max deal and have about $6 mil more left).

Nelson | Jack
Carter | Belinelli | Green
Ariza |
West | Smith
Gortat | Andersen

[QUOTE]The Magic and Wizards are discussing a potential Gilbert Arenas trade and reports indicate the Orlando may send both Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis to Washington in a deal.

A source advised that including Carter and Lewis in the trade is "being discussed."

If the Magic include Lewis, the NBA's second-highest paid player, it would be a clear indication that Orlando is looking to cut salary.

Lewis and Carter combine to earn more than $37 million this season, so the Wizards would have to include more than just Arenas and his $17.7 million contract in a trade.



[/QUOTE]

Looks like they are trying to cut salary. Maybe trying to get some flexiblity to make a run at Melo or to trade for a pg.

The Magic are basically rebuilding and blowing their roster up. They weren't going to go anywhere with that roster anyways.

Whats the chance of this actually going through?

Makes sense. Rashard has sucked, and his contract is almost as terrible as Gilbert's.

[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]Agreed. Could definitely be worth it, because they need an elite play-making point guard. However If I was them I'd be going hard for Chris Paul instead. I think this deal could work -

[url]http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2734typ[/url]

[B][U]Orlando[/U][/B]
Chris Paul (3 yrs $49 mil)
Emeka Okafor(4 yrs $52 mil)
Marcus Thornton (1 yrs $762k)
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Difference: [B]$34.8 mil more[/B] [traded ($67 mil) received ($101.8 mil)]

[B][U]New Orleans[/U][/B]
Vince Carter (expirer $17 mil)
Jameer Nelson (3 yrs $22 mil)
Marcin Gortat (4 yrs $28 mil)
2 Future 1st Round Picks
-------------------------------
Difference: [B]$34.8 mil less[/B] [traded ($101.8 mil) received ($67 mil)]

[B]Why Orlando does it[/B] This trade makes an elite team even better. The one thing Orlando has lacked for all these years has been an elite playmaker to get the ball to Dwight. Paul solves that problem.

Paul | Duhon | Williams
Thornton | Reddick
Richardson | Pietrus
Lewis | Bass | Warrick
Howard | Okafor | Orton

[B]Why New Orleans does it?[/B] This deal would save them about $35 mil altogether and relieve their payroll for next season by about $15 mil (which as things stand now would give them the cap space to offer someone a max deal and have about $6 mil more left).

Nelson | Jack
Carter | Belinelli | Green
Ariza |
West | Smith
Gortat | Andersen[/QUOTE]

I see your trade a raise you:
Ty Lawson
JR Smith
Kenyon Martin
2 Firsts

for

Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor


Much better for New Orleans. They save a lot of money (short and long term), get a younger, cheaper PG in Lawson (who will probably end up being better than Jameer), a good wing in JR and 2 firsts. They also get to keep Thornton. They give like $66 mil of long term deals and get like less than $30 mil long term deals (Kenyon and JR expire after this year and Lawson only makes $1.5 mil). Saves them a lot of money and gets them a future all star PG and 2 firsts. While your trade actually gives them more long term money for inferior players. (also if NO wants to dump more money, a Balkman for Ariza swap can be included, it works: [URL="http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fzcuz8"]http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2fzcuz8[/URL] ).

Denver gets the best PG in the NBA and that has to convince Melo to stay. Also Okafor could help out b/c we need a big man (so it's easier to take on his huge deal).

I don't think NO will trade Paul b/c the NBA now owns them and any new owner will want to keep CP, but this offer is much better than most offers, although I think NJ can offer a better package.

If they go for Arenas then they need to be smart about what they end up with after their rebuild. I would hate to see them ship everyone out as an excuse to cut salary and end up another soft team filled with scorers. Imagine a back court of Gilly, Jameer, and Reddick with an Anderson, Bass, Qrich, Thorton rotation at the 3-4.

If Orlando does this trade they need to bring in someone like Deng, G-Wallace, AK, Green, or both Iggy and Battier.

Carter, Gortat, Anderson

For

Turkeyglue, Frye, Childress, Clark


Yes please :D

[QUOTE=RoTM]If they go for Arenas then they need to be smart about what they end up with after their rebuild. I would hate to see them ship everyone out as an excuse to cut salary and end up another soft team filled with scorers. Imagine a back court of Gilly, Jameer, and Reddick with an Anderson, Bass, Qrich, Thorton rotation at the 3-4.

If Orlando does this trade they need to bring in someone like Deng, G-Wallace, AK, Green, or both Iggy and Battier.[/QUOTE]

Carter for Arenas
Lewis for AK47

But I don't think Utah will accept

[QUOTE]Chris_Broussard Magic & Suns closing in on deal to send Hedo/jRich to Phx for Vince and Gortat. "90 pct" chance of it happening, sources say. Within 24 hrs

Orlando also close to moving rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas and a big to replace Gortat[/QUOTE]
Damn, that's a whole lotta change.

Who really think's this is going to help the Magic be greater than what they already are?

Arenas is bad influence. He is probably telling Wall to fake injuries and to take a **** on other players shoe

Good luck Orlando Magic

[QUOTE=QuebecBaller]Carter for Arenas
Lewis for AK47

But I don't think Utah will accept[/QUOTE]
Hello no AK is a monsta

While I think this trade would be great for the Magic, I would still be a bit sad. Lewis is one of my fav players even though he has been dreadful so far this year. He has done a lot for us over the years but right now, gotta make Dwight happy :D

So I guess with all the proposed trades:

Nelson/Duhon
Arenas/J-Rich
Turkoglu/Q-Rich
Bass/Andersen
Howard/Filler

This lineup definitely packs more of a punch. I'm all for it. And I got tickets to the Spurs game on the 23rd. I wonder what team I'll see!

[QUOTE=SIRI1]Damn, that's a whole lotta change.[/QUOTE]
Awesome. Updated the first post!

I don't think why are the Suns accepting this trade, Nash must be demanding a trade right now.

Why won't title change D;

Anyways.

Jameer/Duhon
Gilbert/Pietrus/Redick
Hedo/J-Rich/Pietrus
Bass/Anderson
Howard/Orton

Now I still don't like the idea of Jameer and Gilbert playing together. If they can somehow land a backup big for Jameer that'd be perfect. Possibly start Pietrus for defensive purposes and bring in J-Rich as an instant scorer type player off the bench.

Gilbert/Duhon
Pietrus/Redick/J-Rich
Hedo/J-Rich
Bass/Anderson
Howard/Backup Big/Orton

:bowdown:

[QUOTE=GatorKid117]While I think this trade would be great for the Magic, I would still be a bit sad. Lewis is one of my fav players even though he has been dreadful so far this year. He has done a lot for us over the years but right now, gotta make Dwight happy :D

So I guess with all the proposed trades:

Nelson/Duhon
Arenas/J-Rich
Turkoglu/Q-Rich
Bass/Andersen
Howard/Filler

This lineup definitely packs more of a punch. I'm all for it. And I got tickets to the Spurs game on the 23rd. I wonder what team I'll see![/QUOTE]

I think it makes more sense to start J-Rich and bring Arenas off the bench.

Phoenix is really making out in this deal. They get Carter(an expirer), Gortat(good defensive big, can thrive with Nash), and Pietrus(underrated). Turkoglu has proven to be a good fit in Orlando, but this also almost two years later, Arenas is washed up, Clark rarely plays, and J-Rich's play isn't to the point where it's a huge upgrade over Rashard.

[QUOTE=davidenk0]I don't think why are the Suns accepting this trade, Nash must be demanding a trade right now.[/QUOTE]

Why not? J-Rich is expiring and isn't in the Suns long term plans, they get another pick and they have a post player they need with Gortat. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=hawksdogsbraves]I think it makes more sense to start J-Rich and bring Arenas off the bench.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. Gilbert works best with the ball in his hand about every other possession. Rich does as well but he's 10x off the ball player that Gilbert is and that allows him to be the better 6th man. So it'd make sense to bring him off the bench. But neither has to.

[QUOTE]WojYahooNBA

Orlando will send PHX Carter, Gortat, Pietrus, a 1st round pick and $3 million for Richardson, Hedo and Earl Clark, source tells Y! Sports.[/QUOTE]

Looks like the deal is pretty much official! Just have to wait for ESPN/NBA to announce it. Great deal for both sides!

And Jeff, way to screw up my title and first post. D;

Who is the backup Center that Wizards are sending to Magic?

[QUOTE=QuebecBaller]Carter for Arenas
Lewis for AK47

But I don't think Utah will accept[/QUOTE]
Oh, god noooooo...

I'd rather take Bass to Utah.

[QUOTE=Batz]Why won't title change D;

Anyways.

Jameer/Duhon
Gilbert/Pietrus/Redick
Hedo/J-Rich/Pietrus
Bass/Anderson
Howard/Orton

Now I still don't like the idea of Jameer and Gilbert playing together. If they can somehow land a backup big for Jameer that'd be perfect. Possibly start Pietrus for defensive purposes and bring in J-Rich as an instant scorer type player off the bench.

Gilbert/Duhon
Pietrus/Redick/J-Rich
Hedo/J-Rich
Bass/Anderson
Howard/Backup Big/Orton

:bowdown:[/QUOTE]

They're losing Pietrus. Leaving them with 1 proper option at SG (Redick).

[QUOTE=BallsOut]Who is the backup Center that Wizards are sending to Magic?[/QUOTE]
Nothing reported on that yet. But ofcourse Javale is not involved. Most likely Hilton Armstrong or Hamady N'Diaye

[QUOTE=Batz]Nothing reported on that yet. But ofcourse Javale is not involved. Most likely Hilton Armstrong or Hamady N'Diaye[/QUOTE]
Hungry hilton!