Eminem vs. the Illuminati

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]It exists. To what extent, I'm not so sure. Nonetheless, you can't ignore the signs. I'm catching on to what Dooms was getting at with Em. It's making more sense now.

It's not like Em would just come out and spring the whole "ILLUMINATI ALERT!" ... he's doing it through his own symbolism. Which raises even more questions. Perhaps the Illuminati is using this as mirage to 'think' Em is trying to get out on purpose... that's how these mind-fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]ker'z operate.[/QUOTE]


this.

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]If there is an Illuminati do you think Jon Stewart is a part of them? I hope not, I really like him. Unless of course the Illuminati is good, then that would be accepatable.[/QUOTE]

Illuminati im a little bit sketchy about, secret societies aka Freemasonry on the other hand im 100% sure is true regardless of what they call themselves.

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]If there is an Illuminati do you think Jon Stewart is a part of them? I hope not, I really like him. Unless of course the Illuminati is good, then that would be accepatable.[/QUOTE]


Jon Stewart is 100% connected... sorry.

I'll provide information later.

stay tuned.

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :cry:[/QUOTE]




Here it is:

[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread632527/pg1[/url]


This Thread got a $hit load of attention because of the information about Jon Stewart in the OP.

His real name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]What if he and his underground society government wanted to get Ron Paul elected and really over throw the FED. What if he's part of the solution.[/QUOTE]


What if overthrowing / or destroying the Fed is part of their plan...

Problem Reaction Solution.

They Create a Problem: The Federal Reserve

They get a reaction from the public: END THE FED!!!

They provide the solution: A new currency

this is how they work.


I honestly believe that somebody wants our economy to crash so they can implement some new agenda... and Ending the Fed will certainly to the trick.

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]Still way to negative.. where is your head gonna be at come 2012? Maybe there are still things to hope for in the future. Not everything has to end badly. Christianity even teaches that something can end good, reguardless of how bad things may seem. Now whether that is the word of God or a book of stories to pass on a message. I believe in the goodness of mankind.[/QUOTE]


hey since this thread is about the Illuminati in the music industry: I saw this video about Michael Jackson being a 2012 believer...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vn8cVoK70M[/url]

This world needs love... Michael Jackson is right... but what is this 4 years to get right talk?

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]
Maybe the freemasons are good.
[/QUOTE]



I've learned to look at Freemasonry as Secrecy... that's mainly what it is.

They do weird $hit and all that... but the bottom line is that these people operate in the shadows.

Secrecy can be both good and bad... but in both cases it's extreme... and with holding information from the public usually tends to be bad.

The reason why US president is always a FreeMason is because it's all ready a given that he knows how to keep a secret... If you don't know how to keep a secret then you probably won't become President. LOL.

[QUOTE=Anti Hero]okay so I can agree that they can keep a secret but didn't batman keep his identity a secret?

Your theories are usually centered around "now way out" things where no matter what we do unless we go to war or overthrow everybody ever or we're fuct. [/QUOTE]


I've read before that their are good secret societies that are trying work against bad secret societies.

[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353057/pg1[/url]

[quote]True Form
The "Illuminati" as most people see it is an archaic and in most cases dark, devious entity, whose ultimate goal is ubiquitous control of commerce and the populous in whole. This notion is derived from two sources; "historical" evidence, and that of slanted/jaded testimonies. One must come to understand the "true nature" of the "definition" of Illuminati before reasonable conclusions can be drawn, any preconceived notions assumed about the entity in whole would as a result, be in its most entirety; inaccurate. The Illuminati does not exist as many think it to, it is not one all powerful "secret society," and is in no way "unified." [B]To aptly state the Illuminati exist in many pieces, with many doctrines, many opinions, many points of view, and [SIZE="5"]many good and ill intentioned people.[/SIZE][/B] Once one identifies the great deal of diversity between these multiple

[QUOTE=Riddler]What if overthrowing / or destroying the Fed is part of their plan...

Problem Reaction Solution.

They Create a Problem: The Federal Reserve

They get a reaction from the public: END THE FED!!!

They provide the solution: A new currency

this is how they work.


I honestly believe that somebody wants our economy to crash so they can implement some new agenda... and Ending the Fed will certainly to the trick.[/QUOTE]
So no matter what happens you'll find a way to believe that the Illuminati control everything?

Also, most people in that link you provided about Stewart say the OP is reaching way too hard in trying to connect him to some sort of conspiracy. Plus all the "info" is from his wikipedia page.

:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=sunsfan1357]So no matter what happens you'll find a way to believe that the Illuminati control everything?[/QUOTE]

They don't control everything... but they sure hell move 10 steps ahead of the game. They have Plan B,C, and D in their back pocket at all times.

Look man... I didn't want to get in a argument on how much control they have... I just want mother f*ckers to know that these people exist, and it's not a damn ghost story... and yes, they do control a $hit load of things, but it's never 100%.

They don't control 100% of the entertainment industry, or 100% of what happens in Washington D.C. or 100% of what happens in the media... But they sure as $hit have an influence over it, that much should be clear by now.

You know I've never understood the type that thinks all this conspiracy stuff is garbage... It's one thing to be annoyed by it, but it's another to deny it. I guess certain people such as yourself tend to think that people are not evil enough, or that people don't have a certain amount of power, or that certain secrets can't be kept hidden... whatever it is... I think the problem is that I might tend to overestimate what man is capable of doing, and you guys tend to underestimate it. I can see how I might tend to point out something that's not even there (Eminem and this thread for example).... but It seems like their are certain types will always come up with a defense or an excuse as to why none of it is true.

But it sucks, because even when you have a person trying to explain a conspiracy... take Latoya Jackson for example... here you have a chick trying to expose the fact that her brother was murdered by people behind the scenes... and that without a doubt there was a conspiracy behind it, but you guys will still say it's bull $hit. No matter who comes forward, or what evidence is presented... you guys either won't give a $hit, or simply say it's bull $hit and roll your eyes.

It's like you guys are working backwards... Instead of looking into reasons why 9/11 could of been an Inside Job, you immediately look at reasons and excuses as to why it wasn't... And I'm tired of "It's a coincidence" as the common excuse.


Bottom Line:

[QUOTE=Gundress]Very good videos and very interesting.[/QUOTE]

Why can't more people just reply tike this? Thank You.



End Rant.

/End Thread.

[quote="Above Top Secret"]He was a Psychology Major. Explains how he was able to fool us for so long! [/quote]

:oldlol:

is this satire?

[quote="Riddler"]His real name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.[/quote]

is that supposed to be a secret?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU[/url]

Watch this series, known as the arrival series. You are a fool if you do not believe this, it is very simple to comprehend really. The world is corrupt, the illuminati tries to get into your subconscious, this is their main goal, you wont notice it although it comes into subconsciously and stays with you.

To those who would like to quote me and call me an idiot, don't, I am doing this to give you a chance to see what this shit really is and if you do not want to take advantage of this opportunity, then just go on with your night and disregard ever reading this post.

Although if you do believe, even somewhat, take a look at the series I posted. It is a 47 episode series and the stuff on their is very informative, and very interesting. Don't try watching it all at once (for it is too long and might be too much) and don't think TOO much about it for it could drive you into insanity or just plain out disbelief. This shit is creepy and ****ed up, but thats life, thats just how it is. Watching this though will at least make you aware of whats wrong with society, and thats all that the creator of the video wants. to make you [U]aware[/U]. Also, after watching the series (or just some of it like the main parts) you will start noticing these symbols and subliminal shit everywhere, and as I said before it is good to be aware of what is around you.

Eminem is just another unwitting cog in the machine

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eutopiated%2Enet%2Filluminaughty%2Fmisc%2Fgeorge%5Fbush%5Fsenior%5Fsemi%2Dshape%2Dshift%253f%2Ehtml[/url]

pause at 00:04 and look at the eyes. wtf.

also go to 1:49. Vampire teeth? lol

Hey Doom...have you seen the Dr.Dre commercial with his brand headphone "Beat by Dre" marked at 0.11-0.12...it has 666. YOu will see it.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CQbTG-occ[/url]

[QUOTE=Gundress]Hey Doom...have you seen the Dr.Dre commercial with his brand headphone "Beat by Dre" marked at 0.11-0.12...it has 666. YOu will see it.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CQbTG-occ[/url][/QUOTE]

:wtf:


but at the same time is really that surprising?


But that commercial is in your face that I would of made a thread about it had I discovered it.

good find Gundress.



That's really sad for Dr. Dre.

He even said he wasn't trying to hang around for the Illuminati in his "been there done that" track.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80dWbiONqM[/url]

[QUOTE]No question, it's all about the D-R-E.
So if money is the root I want the whole damn tree.
Ain't tryin' to stick around for the Illuminati,
Got to buy my own island by the year 2 G...[/QUOTE]

Well he waited around to long... and now he's apart of it.

Look at him dancing around in the ballroom like he's apart of them.

this thread is funny.. I think all artist are slaves to the industry they do what they do to makes sales and money

[QUOTE=Gundress]Hey Doom...have you seen the Dr.Dre commercial with his brand headphone "Beat by Dre" marked at 0.11-0.12...it has 666. YOu will see it.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CQbTG-occ[/url][/QUOTE]
i SEE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE LOWERCASE (B) LOOKS LIKE A 6

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU[/url]

Watch this series, known as the arrival series. You are a fool if you do not believe this, it is very simple to comprehend really. The world is corrupt, the illuminati tries to get into your subconscious, this is their main goal, you wont notice it although it comes into subconsciously and stays with you.

To those who would like to quote me and call me an idiot, don't, I am doing this to give you a chance to see what this shit really is and if you do not want to take advantage of this opportunity, then just go on with your night and disregard ever reading this post.

Although if you do believe, even somewhat, take a look at the series I posted. It is a 47 episode series and the stuff on their is very informative, and very interesting. Don't try watching it all at once (for it is too long and might be too much) and don't think TOO much about it for it could drive you into insanity or just plain out disbelief. This shit is creepy and ****ed up, but thats life, thats just how it is. Watching this though will at least make you aware of whats wrong with society, and thats all that the creator of the video wants. to make you [U]aware[/U]. Also, after watching the series (or just some of it like the main parts) you will start noticing these symbols and subliminal shit everywhere, and as I said before it is good to be aware of what is around you.[/QUOTE]


tHE DEVILS WORK THROUGH OUR IGNORANCE!! GOOD FIND

[QUOTE=caleb27615]tHE DEVILS WORK THROUGH OUR IGNORANCE!! GOOD FIND[/QUOTE]

I've seen the Arrivals.

Very good series.

And while I don't believe 100% of it... I certainly believe most of it, which is still enough for me to be fascinated.

I'll post my some of my favorite parts:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfIkTPj0jM[/url]
[B]The Arrivals PART 46 (The Complete Human)[/B]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6NqtnWqPA[/url]
[B]The Arrivals - Part 24 (Freedom Unplugged[/B])

[QUOTE]
The best way for people to change,... to see and change their way of thinking, is for them to experience the change,... is for them to research this knowledge rather than having someone tell it to them. [/QUOTE]

So true.

[QUOTE=Riddler]:wtf:


but at the same time is really that surprising?


But that commercial is in your face that I would of made a thread about it had I discovered it.

good find Gundress.



That's really sad for Dr. Dre.

He even said he wasn't trying to hang around for the Illuminati in his "been there done that" track.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80dWbiONqM[/url]



Well he waited around to long... and now he's apart of it.

Look at him dancing around in the ballroom like he's apart of them.[/QUOTE]

Why do you think Dre always hang out with his boss Jimmy Iovine more than Eminem?

Fine.....Here the picture of new year, a-list celebrity lists aka illumanti party

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yep... that's definitely their kind of party.

who is Jimmy Iovine again?

Hey Gundress check out my avatar.

[img]http://memories.michaeljackson.com/ex-images/michael-jackson-this-is-it-soundtrack.jpg[/img]



see any similarities?



By the way have you played this Black Ops game? Crazy conspiracy shit is in it with the CIA and MK Ultra... they even go into JFK and his assassination.

check this out: (spoiler)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2Kaqd1EyQ[/url]
[B]Black Ops Ending HD[/B]

[QUOTE=Riddler]yep... that's definitely their kind of party.

who is Jimmy Iovine again?[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?, The picture I posted Dre with his boss on the left with his baseball cap hat and glasses. He owns Interscope Records (Death Row, Aftermath, Shady, G-Unit, Geffen, etc ) are under Interscope.

[URL=http://img254.imageshack.us/i/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg/][IMG]http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3897/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[QUOTE=Gundress]Are you serious?, The picture I posted Dre with his boss on the left with his baseball cap hat and glasses. He owns Interscope Records (Death Row, Aftermath, Shady, G-Unit, Geffen, etc ) are under Interscope.

[URL=http://img254.imageshack.us/i/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg/][IMG]http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3897/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]



Well now I know what a Devil Worshiper looks like.


do any of these rappers and entertainer worship the devil? Probably not... but this guy does, and this is the guy that Eminem and Dre would of had to sell their soul to.

[QUOTE=Riddler]Hey Gundress check out my avatar.

[img]http://memories.michaeljackson.com/ex-images/michael-jackson-this-is-it-soundtrack.jpg[/img]



see any similarities?



By the way have you played this Black Ops game? Crazy conspiracy shit is in it with the CIA and MK Ultra... they even go into JFK and his assassination.

check this out: (spoiler)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2Kaqd1EyQ[/url]
[B]Black Ops Ending HD[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I own Black Ops on 360. There are more than JFK tjam u think

[QUOTE=Riddler]Well now I know what a Devil Worshiper looks like.[/QUOTE]


Did you know that Pac was already under Interscope before he signed Death Row? and when he was in Jail at the time...his album [B]Me Against The World.[/B]..[I]he is the only artist ever to have an album at number one on the Billboard 200 while serving a prison sentence.[/I]

[IMG]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5320714461_6e0b61bd47_z.jpg[/IMG]

I know 3 closet sodomites when I see them :lol

[QUOTE=Gundress]Did you know that Pac was already under Interscope before he signed Death Row? and when he was in Jail at the time...his album [B]Me Against The World.[/B]..[I]he is the only artist ever to have an album at number one on the Billboard 200 while serving a prison sentence.[/I][/QUOTE]



[url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread508812/pg1[/url]


[QUOTE]So we hear that missing people including children have been sacrificed for evil purposes. While I am willing to believe that, I'd like to know if anybody has any sources for the reality of dark occult groups such as Satanic ones sacrificing humans in return for increases in power etc or what they see are increases in power etc.

I'd also like to know if anybody heard of the blood sacrifices supposedly made by popular entertainers such as Jay Z and Michael Jordan (yes he was an entertainer in essence). I've seen the youtube videos which feature Professor Griff who was in Public Enemy until he got forced out because the powerful in the music industry said he was anti Semitic (actually anti Jewish because to use the term Semitic is an historical/cultural misrepresentation). I

know Proff Griff could say things that could be taken as anti Jewish and he certainly said some things that were used against him because they were open to being labelled in that way.

However, fundamentally when he talked about the entertainment industry he was talking about the powerful Jewish people such as those who run the entertainment industry, warping our view of reality with stereotypes, misinformation, and the wielding of power for the benefit of the few. Note here I am talking about individuals who happen to be Jewish and their involvement in the entertainment industry. I do not subscribe to the numerous conspiracy theories on Jewish people throughout history which is why I don't like *****.com although it has a lot of useful stuff. It also has an anti Jewish bent although it always proclaims it is anti Zionist.

To get back to Griff - he holds that Michael Jordan's father's murder was the price Jordan paid to be the most successful (monetarily and competitively) and famous basketball player of all time. He says Damon Dash (the business partner Jay Z screwed over) sacrificed the R and B singer Aliyah who was his fiancee in order to gain the success that the music label Rocafella became.

He says Suge Knight (VEO of Death Row Records) sacrificed Tupac Shakur for money and fame. He says J Prince (Rap A Lot Records) sacrificed rapper Pimp C who died last year.

Griff holds that Jennifer Hudson's family were killed ritually as the result of the demand that she make a blood sacrifice to become one of the elite in the entertainment world. I am sure he has mentioned more but I have only heard of these people (plus names of people like hiphop producer Irv Gotti who supposedly was going to sacrifice Ashanti but she removed herself from him and her old music label).

As a rational person who needs evidence before subscribing to such theories I nevertheless find them interesting though disturbing. Jay Z's nephew and one of his close friends died last year (nephew in an accident, friend murdered). Kanye West's mother died last year after cosmetic surgery and it came out that a nephew who was supposed to be looking after the mother post op neglected her.

Lisa Left Eye Lopez formerly of TLC (female hiphop group) died in South America in a car accident after joining Death Row records. No doubt there are other deceased people associated with these famous people.

Did anybody hear about this before Professor Griff was on youtube? What do you think? It's such a controversial theory. However, the emphasis in Jay Z's and Beyonce's circles on dark occultic symbols such as the head of Baphomet and the push to promote the occult and such symbols in videos from theirs to Omarion's points to an agenda.

Bull# from over active imagination and resentment? Or freaky stuff that nevertheless points to truth being stranger than fiction? [/QUOTE]



So here is my list so far:

Eminem - Proof
Kanye West - his mom
T.I. - Rapper and friend Dolla
Damon Dash - ALLIAH
P Diddy - Biggie
Suge Knight - Tupac (didn't work out so great for Suge)
Dr Dre - His Son
The Entire Jackson Family - Michael Jackson
J Prince - Pimp C
Jennifer Hudson - 2 family members

[QUOTE=Dwade305][IMG]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5320714461_6e0b61bd47_z.jpg[/IMG]

I know 3 closet sodomites when I see them :lol[/QUOTE]


They all wear black color.

[QUOTE=Dwade305][IMG]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5320714461_6e0b61bd47_z.jpg[/IMG]

I know 3 closet sodomites when I see them :lol[/QUOTE]


:oldlol:

It's like they either have to wear a dress in a movie, have a blood sacrifice, or have gay sex to get famous... or all three for all I know.

Hey Doom, I don't know you like watch classic white and black color but this is one of my favorite Twilight Zone show of all time.

[B]Howling Man[/B]...you need to watch this show.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZib53RK-Bs[/url]

and

[B]Escape Clause[/B]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOYq929Zr-U[/url]

[QUOTE=Gundress]Hey Doom, I don't you like white and black color but this is one of my favorite Twilight Zone show of all time.

[B]Howling Man[/B]...you need to watch this show.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZib53RK-Bs[/url]

and

[B]Escape Clause[/B]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOYq929Zr-U[/url][/QUOTE]


I'll check it out...

be back in a little bit.

[QUOTE=Riddler]I've seen the Arrivals.

Very good series.

And while I don't believe 100% of it... I certainly believe most of it, which is still enough for me to be fascinated.

I'll post my some of my favorite parts:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfIkTPj0jM[/url]
[B]The Arrivals PART 46 (The Complete Human)[/B]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6NqtnWqPA[/url]
[B]The Arrivals - Part 24 (Freedom Unplugged[/B])



So true.[/QUOTE]


Looks like there are 2 diff arrivals series...

[QUOTE=Riddler]It's like they either have to wear a dress in a movie, have a blood sacrifice, or have gay sex to get famous... or all three for all I know.[/QUOTE]
Amare signs a $100 million contract in NYC, and next thing you know he is butt naked, front cover Espn.:lol

interesting STUFF

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUgrtz-Wrso:lol[/url]

Look at Pac he is:mad: :facepalm :ohwell: :ohwell:

Somewhere in the video you can hear a wolf whistle from one of those 3 **** enjoying it.:lol