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it doesn't matter if he's a rookie or 12 year vet... he's become the defacto team leader and emotional leader of the clipps... he can go after anyone he wants.. screw all this fantasy senority BS.. you're either a man or not
lol at rookies having to kowtow to anyone, silliest thing i ever heard... haha like magic johnson larry bird or jordan ever backed off because they were rooks
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]For having an opinion on somebody's behavior? Oh I forgot, it's Blake Griffin so I can't talk negative about him.
Sorry, but there is no validation to your post. You on the other hand call out somebody with an opinion which is against the norm an idiot makes you the idiot. Think about it.
Posters like this yahoo is the reason why good posters disappear[/QUOTE]
Actually threads like this are the reason why good posters dissapear. Also put your name in the (failed) neg rep coward.
You must remember that Griffin is still a kid. Mature beyond his years but still has some growing to do. He got caught up in the moment and he should have handled it different. But seriously, have you played competitive sports? Sometimes things just get heated in the moment. Sometimes a guy pissed you off. Its human nature.
[QUOTE=StacksOnDeck]Actually threads like this are the reason why good posters dissapear. [/QUOTE]
Sorry, legit thread, sorry as$ posters like you ruin it with senseless comments. Revert back to your comment and see which brings down the level of maturity to ISH.
[QUOTE]Also put your name in the (failed) neg rep coward.[/QUOTE]Is the name necessary? It's obviously from me. Why would I hide that? I've confronted you in the open. How does that make me a coward?
Your logic is completely off bro. Reachers keep reaching.
[QUOTE=StacksOnDeck]OP is an idiot.[/QUOTE]
Your comment. Now tell me what level of respect does this post make? And you say I'm ruining the level of intellegence on this board?
[QUOTE=ihatetimthomas]You must remember that Griffin is still a kid. Mature beyond his years but still has some growing to do. He got caught up in the moment and he should have handled it different. But seriously, have you played competitive sports? Sometimes things just get heated in the moment. Sometimes a guy pissed you off. Its human nature.[/QUOTE]
I've gotten into plenty of heaters. But there's also a level of regression one should make in certain situations. I never said not to stick up for yourself. But in Blake's situation I think he went a little overboard. Play harder yes, but confronting like he did, I view him a little differently.
But yes there are situations where regression should apply.
Some kid posted on here if he was a newb at a park if things should get heated he'd front like Griffin. Are you kidding me? Let him do that in my park and I'm sure beatdown will ensue.
[QUOTE=gts]it doesn't matter if he's a rookie or 12 year vet... [B]he's become the defacto team leader and emotional leader of the clipps[/B]... he can go after anyone he wants.. screw all this fantasy senority BS.. you're either a man or not
lol at rookies having to kowtow to anyone, silliest thing i ever heard... haha[B] like magic johnson larry bird or jordan ever backed off because they were rooks[/B][/QUOTE]
Bingo and bingo.
[QUOTE=oh the horror]Bingo and bingo.[/QUOTE]
I half agree, but Magic, Micheal, and Bird would just make them pay on the court before acting like a hard-ass thug.
I appreciated more what Griffin did during the game to retaliate by throwing down on his head. That's how a rookie should go abouts retaliating.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]I've gotten into plenty of heaters. But there's also a level of regression one should make in certain situations. I never said not to stick up for yourself. But in Blake's situation I think he went a little overboard. Play harder yes, but confronting like he did, I view him a little differently.
But yes there are situations where regression should apply.
Some kid posted on here if he was a newb at a park if things should get heated he'd front like Griffin. Are you kidding me? Let him do that in my park and I'm sure beatdown will ensue.[/QUOTE]
You have to take into the account that the Clippers were very pumped up for playing so well against the hottest team in the league. You also have to take into account that the Staples center was electric and this probably got him even more pumped up. Griffin was already heated from getting a ton of no calls on him throughout the game.
I understand your stance on he should have showed some regression, but as the teams leader, I dont have a big problem with it. He may have taken it a bit too far, but I think you are kind of blowing it out of proportion. Obvioulsy Chalmers was jawwing and talking.
Lol at the thought of Griffin having to "regress" because he's getting into it with a scrub like Chalmers.
[QUOTE=gts]it doesn't matter if he's a rookie or 12 year vet... he's become the defacto team leader and emotional leader of the clipps... he can go after anyone he wants.. screw all this fantasy senority BS.. you're either a man or not
lol at rookies having to kowtow to anyone, silliest thing i ever heard... haha like magic johnson larry bird or jordan ever backed off because they were rooks[/QUOTE]
spot on
To be fair to the OP, Shaq did chin check Bynum after he dunked on him and then bumped him. Blake wouldn't be pulling shit like that against him either. However...it IS just Mario Chalmers. Haha.
[QUOTE=ihatetimthomas]You have to take into the account that the Clippers were very pumped up for playing so well against the hottest team in the league. You also have to take into account that the Staples center was electric and this probably got him even more pumped up. Griffin was already heated from getting a ton of no calls on him throughout the game.
I understand your stance on he should have showed some regression, but as the teams leader, I dont have a big problem with it. He may have taken it a bit too far, but I think you are kind of blowing it out of proportion. Obvioulsy Chalmers was jawwing and talking.[/QUOTE]
If I'm blowing out of proportion It's more so the lack of maturity in the responses so far.
But in this case, again, there are emotional leaders that react this way but yet get chastized for the same reaction. Blake, especially being a rookie, should not be given a free pass. But I do realize things got intense. Yes, emotion gets the best of you. But what do people usually say when things get heated and they react like Griffin? They usually come out and appologize for the immaturity.
[QUOTE=caliman]Lol at the thought of Griffin having to "regress" because he's getting into it with a scrub like Chalmers.[/QUOTE]
Points been covered. Please read whole thread making repetative statements.
Why are you looking at griffins actions as unexcusable? Mario chalmers was the one that initiated the the dispute, he was at fault and that's why he got called for the technical first.
[QUOTE=Juice Willis]To be fair to the OP, Shaq did chin check Bynum after he dunked on him and then bumped him. Blake wouldn't be pulling shit like that against him either. However...it IS just Mario Chalmers. Haha.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. And Bynum didn't have that same reaction or body language before the shot that Blake had shown. If Bynum did that we'd all be saying how deserved a chincheck from Shaq.
[QUOTE=b0bab0i]Why are you looking at griffins actions as unexcusable? Mario chalmers was the one that initiated the the dispute, he was at fault and that's why he got called for the technical first.[/QUOTE]
Never once have I excused Chalmers actions.
[QUOTE]Never once have I excused Chalmers actions.[/QUOTE]
Nor have you brought them up. It seems you are a Griffen hater or mad that so many people enjoy watching his highlights so you need to find something to complain about. He might be a rookie but he has been around the league for two years, that is one less that Chalmers so lets not act like he is new to the scene.
It looked like Chalmers was provoking Griffin with the first tech and Griffin being a rookie walked right into picking up a tech himself. I think the whole situation was a rookie mistake on Griffins part. He should have just let Chalmers pick up the tech and proceed to shit on his whole team as he did, would have been a bigger **** you imo.
Also I agree OP is an idiot. Who cares if he's a rookie, if some punk half your size, twice your age, and 1/4 your skill is barking in your face do you back down? I hope not.
[QUOTE=lil_watz]Nor have you brought them up. It seems you are a Griffen hater or mad that so many people enjoy watching his highlights so you need to find something to complain about. He might be a rookie but he has been around the league for two years, that is one less that Chalmers so lets not act like he is new to the scene.[/QUOTE]
- Chalmers actions are irrelevant to why this thread was made
- You're jumping to conclusions on my stance on Griffin. I made it perfectly clear I don't differenciate if it was Griffin or any other rookie. That doesn't make me a Griffin hater. Come up with something better.
That's what makes this place intollerable at times. No matter what stance you have, if you make a comment which is against the demi-gods of ISH, you're labelled a hater. Typical ISH shyt.
[QUOTE=b0bab0i]Why are you looking at griffins actions as unexcusable? Mario chalmers was the one that initiated the the dispute, he was at fault and that's why he got called for the technical first.[/QUOTE]
OP said ''actions'' it's not the thing with Mario chalmers ...
it's because Blake Griffin was ignoring lebron end of game
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]Points been covered. Please read whole thread making repetative statements.[/QUOTE]
I did read the entire thread and your point is stupid to think that Griffin should have cowered just because he's a rookie. Someone else pointed out that you may have had a point if we were talking about Shaq, or Howard or guys of those ilk. Why the hell should he be deferential to a scrub like Chalmers?
[QUOTE=Hazard]
Also I agree OP is an idiot. Who cares if he's a rookie, if some punk half your size, twice your age, and 1/4 your skill is barking in your face do you back down? I hope not.[/QUOTE]
No, I'd beat you down just like any other half pint....if it were in the appropriate place. Would I do it at work? No. In the streets? yes. NBA is a workplace my friend, you're under the scope of a million veiwers. If Griffin reated, so be it, but not like he did. Take action in other facets of the event.
Think before you call someone an idiot. Why am I an idiot? Because my opinion is different? Again, idiots like yourself is why the quality goes down. Can you see a mature debate actually did ensue with mature posters (ie ihatetimthomas, rake, beebcats)? Be one of them. Maybe you'll gain some credibilty.
Again, any other player.....
Blake is killing all Mothers, Fathers, and babies.... No ifs, ands, or maybes.
Quit crying OP. Nice avatar tho!!!
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]No, I'd beat you down just like any other half pint....if it were in the appropriate place. Would I do it at work? No. In the streets? yes. NBA is a workplace my friend, you're under the scope of a million veiwers. If Griffin reated, so be it, but not like he did. Take action in other facets of the event.
Think before you call someone an idiot. Why am I an idiot? Because my opinion is different? Again, idiots like yourself is why the quality goes down. Can you see a mature debate actually did ensue with mature posters (ie ihatetimthomas, rake, beebcats)? Be one of them. Maybe you'll gain some credibilty.
Again, any other player.....[/QUOTE]
Did Griffin beat Chalmers down? He walked towards him semi aggressively and you're throwing a fit.. He got a tech which is all that little confrontation was worth. And you are an idiot because this is a retarded topic. Workplace or not, a ball court is a place where you must assert yourself and Griffin did just that.
[QUOTE=caliman]I did read the entire thread and your point is stupid to think that Griffin should have cowered just because he's a rookie. Someone else pointed out that you may have had a point if we were talking about Shaq, or Howard or guys of those ilk. Why the hell should he be deferential to a scrub like Chalmers?[/QUOTE]
Never once did I say Griffin should cower. Analyze better before you come up with something to say.
I didn't say to cower ever, I said he should have retaliated in a more resourceful way. There's a difference, but I don't think you'll have the intellegence to figure it out.
Now keep reaching and find another "hole" in my arguments. I'm assuming you'll try hard and post again. If you do come up with something, I'll be sure to respond more articulate
[QUOTE=Hazard]Did Griffin beat Chalmers down? He walked towards him semi aggressively and you're throwing a fit.. He got a tech which is all that little confrontation was worth. And you are an idiot because this is a retarded topic. Workplace or not, a ball court is a place where you must assert yourself and Griffin did just that.[/QUOTE]
Again with alot of maturity.
Did I say Griffin shouldn't be assertive? Follow how i've responded to others before making assumptions.
Jesus, I hope your employer tolerates actions like your if you think it's appropriate workplace conduct.
[QUOTE=Dengness9]Blake is killing all Mothers, Fathers, and babies.... No ifs, ands, or maybes.
Quit crying OP. Nice avatar tho!!![/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
I'm not crying, just a little frustrated at the maturity level and anger people have on here. You can never seem to challenge peoples POV's without them trying to be a smartass or or resort to name calling. This thread is a perfect example.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]Again with alot of maturity.
Did I say Griffin shouldn't be assertive? Follow how i've responded to others before making assumptions.
Jesus, I hope your employer tolerates actions like your if you think it's appropriate workplace conduct.[/QUOTE]
You're crying cause Griffin is a rookie and lost his cool right? Well guess what when your place of employment is full of heightened emotions sometimes you lose your cool. I understand you want NBA players to be a bunch of robots and not react to anything but the guy lost his cool... shit happens. You're still an idiot.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]:oldlol:
I'm not crying, just a little frustrated at the maturity level and anger people have on here. You can never seem to challenge peoples POV's without them trying to be a smartass or or resort to name calling. This thread is a perfect example.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]This in no slight to his game, which I know some of you [B]idiots[/B] will take this thread for, but never should a rook come hard like that on the court. Any other rookie would have gotten murked for acting the same way.
[B]I know alot of you are so far up Griffin's a-hole[/B] that you'll stick up for him, but what if that was Empke Udoh or Evan Turner? You'd probably think he was a douche for pulling the same thing. Rooks should have more class. Have a few more miles in the league before you try and pick fights on the court.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: You started this thread off with name calling you ****ing clown!...
[quote=DaHeezy]:oldlol:
I'm not crying, just a little frustrated at the maturity level and anger people have on here. You can never seem to challenge peoples POV's without them trying to be a smartass or or resort to name calling. This thread is a perfect example.[/quote]
-I dont agree with you on topic
-I agree with you with the smartasses on ish, they kind of flock on anyone whos getting outnumbered, kind of coward.
off topic: Hulk Hogan > British Bulldog, deal with it.
[QUOTE=Hazard]You're crying cause Griffin is a rookie and lost his cool right? Well guess what when your place of employment is full of heightened emotions sometimes you lose your cool. I understand you want NBA players to be a bunch of robots and not react to anything but the guy lost his cool... shit happens. You're still an idiot.[/QUOTE]
Again, reaching for an argument. When have I siad for players to act like robots? I watch hockey where losing your cool is a daily phenomenom and I love it. It the Griffin show boating that was unimpressive and made him look pretty silly.
Quit reaching hazard, idiot.
PS- You're an idiot.:oldlol:
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]Again, reaching for an argument. When have I siad for players to act like robots? I watch hockey where losing your cool is a daily phenomenom and I love it. It the Griffin show boating that was unimpressive and made him look pretty silly.
Quit reaching hazard, idiot.
PS- You're an idiot.:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:blah :facepalm
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]-I dont agree with you on topic
-I agree with you with the smartasses on ish, they kind of flock on anyone whos getting outnumbered, kind of coward.
off topic: Hulk Hogan > British Bulldog, deal with it.[/QUOTE]
I can accept people having a different point of view, I was bound to have confronted it. I do however think people are selective when it comes to certain topics.
Again, if this were another player the thread's outcome would have been totally different. But because it's about Griffin all of a sudden I'm an idiot? Makes no sense. I can appreicate the few who actually elloborated and decided to see my side of things before the rebuttled with theirs. Look at this Hazard guy, misses the whole point and backs it up by calling me an idiot. Does he think he's on top of this thread and on me?
Better technical wrestler
Davey Boy >>>> Hogan
[QUOTE=Hazard]:blah :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Says the idiot!
[QUOTE=Hazard]:oldlol: You started this thread off with name calling you ****ing clown!...[/QUOTE]
It was more forcasting posters like you with no sense of comprehension, class, or maturity. Thank you for fufilling my premonition.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]It was more forcasting posters like you with no sense of comprehension, class, or maturity. Thank you for fufilling my premonition.[/QUOTE]
Anytime buddy :cheers:
Uhh, I don't see how his time in the league has any relevance to this. Rookie or non-rookie, it's completely moot. Basketball is not a fraternity, sorry.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]You can afford a computer but not a television? It's all over the news.[/QUOTE]
There's more to planet earth than the US....