Player almost kills ref

[QUOTE=ClutchCityReturns]It's not dumb and I never said it should be a blind law. I said when something is this severe that the punishment should follow suit, but that doesn't mean that I didn't look at it with my owns eyes first to come to that conclusion. Every case should be considered under its own circumstances, and when I look at this particular instance, it's my opinion that this guy bought himself a one way ticket to ban city.

It's really no different than any other occupation. If you work in the corporate world and you decide to go put your fist through some mail clerk's skull just because you're having a bad day and he put your new letters in the out box on accident, good luck finding a job in that field again. Or any professional occupation for that matter, especially if a bunch of people witnessed it and it's on video. I hear most potential employers don't consider aggravated assault as a selling point unless the company brand happens to be UFC or Pride.[/QUOTE]

You can find another job in that field unless you have been hit with a charge. An accountant doing that wont lose thier chance to ever do accounting again. Maybe never for that company, but another? Get real. He doesnt need a career change after that incident unless he killed that mail clerk.


But i guess what you're doing is similar to jail. Where you do the crime, you do the time...and during that time you lose all rights, privliges as a free person. I dont think a lifetime ban is the right punishment. Extreme unless he has had a violent history then yeah. 10yr ban.

[QUOTE=305Baller]I dont understand the *****ing either, even if the refs wrong, he wont reverse the call. Players should just give up and keep playing. It doesnt work.[/QUOTE]


yea the ref wont reverse the call. but i think players do it so the ref wont call the same "bull$#@%" the next time

[QUOTE=GOBB]You can find another job in that field unless you have been hit with a charge. An accountant doing that wont lose thier chance to ever do accounting again. Maybe never for that company, but another? Get real. He doesnt need a career change after that incident unless he killed that mail clerk.


But i guess what you're doing is similar to jail. Where you do the crime, you do the time...and during that time you lose all rights, privliges as a free person. I dont think a lifetime ban is the right punishment. Extreme unless he has had a violent history then yeah. 10yr ban.[/QUOTE]

Still disagree with your take about being able to get another job, but I have a question about the 10 year ban. How long do you expect the guy to play ball? Unless he's rather young, his career will be all but over after 10 years anyway. Seems to me that if it's that long it's not going to matter much if it's a life ban. But again, I'm talking about this case in particular. Pushing a ref violently, attempting to choke a ref, maybe even throwing a punch at one in the heat of an all out team vs. team brawl or something. Things like that, depending on each case, I would imagine are probably at least 1 year bans, maybe multiple years. What this guy did, in particular, is far worse than any of that stuff. He lost it BIG TIME and just snapped...and why did he do this? For not getting a call? :confusedshrug: Can't have that kind of ticking time bomb out there after you've seen what he might do. Not in my opinion.

The ref deserved that. I watch old NBA games and it was nothing like it is today, these refs are getting in the way and players need to start taking action for it. I can understand that guys story, sometimes the refs piss the **** outta me when I play games and I wanna throw a punch at them too.

No one deserves to be punched in the face for doing their job you moron. Your stupidity amazes me.

[QUOTE=IlliniFan]No one deserves to be punched in the face for doing their job you moron. Your stupidity amazes me.[/QUOTE]

Oh sorry, was that your dad? deserved it.

You obviously don't have the feel for basketball. I do and I completely understand where this guy is coming from.

i've becoming steadily more convinced that black people are more racist than white people as a whole

I play basketball a lot. Organized and recreational. While you might get frustrated with the ref sometimes, you never get angry enough to throw a punch. If you do it's probably becuase:
A. You suck and can't hit a shot.
B. You have anger management issues.

[QUOTE]The ref deserved that. [/QUOTE]

you've got to be kidding me
so basically if things dont go the way i want in life, im allowed using violence on people as a means of making things right and releasing my anger.
ahh finally, it all makes sense

we are all n*****s and we are all honky crackers until we pull our heads out of each others s**t filled a***s.

[QUOTE=GoRapz]The ref deserved that. I watch old NBA games and it was nothing like it is today, these refs are getting in the way and players need to start taking action for it[/QUOTE]

you = stupid

[QUOTE=IlliniFan]I play basketball a lot. Organized and recreational. While you might get frustrated with the ref sometimes, you never get angry enough to throw a punch. If you do it's probably becuase:
A. You suck and can't hit a shot.
B. You have anger management issues.[/QUOTE]

C. The ref is basically on your back

Everyone thinks the ref is on their back. You are just a little slow.

[QUOTE=GoRapz]Oh sorry, was that your dad? deserved it.

You obviously don't have the feel for basketball. I do and I completely understand where this guy is coming from.[/QUOTE]

agreed 100% refs **** up the game slow it down/giving make up calls and all kinds a stupid ****. he got wat he deserved

[QUOTE=IlliniFan]Everyone thinks the ref is on their back. You are just a little slow.[/QUOTE]

you just suck at basketball, therefore not understanding the players point of view.

[QUOTE=hotsizzle]look at the comments on youtube from it:

**** the ***** in the white.. he pushed the guy first..
messed with the wrong man.. now daddys defending him plshh

LoLoL that ***** got mawed. He deserved it, i've gotten **** talked in games before and ignored it, gotten pushed, but that kid takes no ****. Im doin that this year.

that my *igga tony he whooped that white boys ass lmao[/QUOTE]

Some people are just way to imature.

[QUOTE=ClutchCityReturns]Still disagree with your take about being able to get another job,[/quote]

Unless criminal charges are filed, pressed and dude has a record? Thats the only way. If not? He can get a job elsewhere.

[QUOTE] but I have a question about the 10 year ban. How long do you expect the guy to play ball? Unless he's rather young, his career will be all but over after 10 years anyway. Seems to me that if it's that long it's not going to matter much if it's a life ban. But again, I'm talking about this case in particular. Pushing a ref violently, attempting to choke a ref, maybe even throwing a punch at one in the heat of an all out team vs. team brawl or something. Things like that, depending on each case, I would imagine are probably at least 1 year bans, maybe multiple years. What this guy did, in particular, is far worse than any of that stuff. He lost it BIG TIME and just snapped...and why did he do this? For not getting a call? :confusedshrug: Can't have that kind of ticking time bomb out there after you've seen what he might do. Not in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Yeah maybe a life ban is right.

[QUOTE=GoRapz]The ref deserved that. I watch old NBA games and it was nothing like it is today, these refs are getting in the way and players need to start taking action for it. I can understand that guys story, sometimes the refs piss the **** outta me when I play games and I wanna throw a punch at them too.[/QUOTE]


You give Canadians and asians a bad name with those retarded comments. :applause:

It's my opinion, i'm just tired of ref calls overall.

[QUOTE=GoRapz]It's my opinion, i'm just tired of ref calls overall.[/QUOTE]

Its a ridiculous opinion. You respect authority even if you feel its poor. Have an understanding about the game and the line that can NEVER be crossed. You can not hit a ref. EVER. Under no cirumstances in a game whatsoever. You cant control your anger, rage, upset self that you want to just push, shove, kick, spit or punch a ref? You dont need to be on the court nor do you need to play in organized sports where an authority figure is present.

Its that simple and I believe your parents taught you better. Admit your opinion is wrong, acknowledge it, change that thought and take into consideration your actions are accepted, applauded nor warranted. Got it? Cool. Maybe you can relay this to friends of yours who feel like you do.

stfu noob. its about time they paid for all their fukups. they screwed the mavs big time. refs got too much power

I'm just imagining GoRapz attacking a ref and getting sent to jail.... :roll:

[quote]stfu noob. its about time they paid for all their fukups. they screwed the mavs big time. refs got too much power[/quote]

Refs are just trying to do their job. If the refs make a mistake it's in being influenced by whiny little twats like Gorapz, who ***** and moan until they start getting the calls going their way.

[QUOTE=GoRapz]It's my opinion, i'm just tired of ref calls overall.[/QUOTE]

Sure the calls can be bad but damn just suck it up and go to the next play it is part of the game. I get my share of T's for swearing but never even though about hitting a ref i just box out harder or take it to the hoop harder to get my aggression out.

refs bug the sh!t out of me..

[QUOTE=TEXAS BATMAN]He didn't shoot the guy. Didn't stab him. Guy initiated physical contact, couldn't take the ensuing punishment. No sympathy.[/QUOTE]


Are you a ****ing idiot?

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[QUOTE=GoRapz]Oh sorry, was that your dad? deserved it.

You obviously don't have the feel for basketball. I do and I completely understand where this guy is coming from.[/QUOTE]

I predict jail time in your future. Either that or killed in a gang fight. have a good life.

[QUOTE=bagelred]I predict jail time in your future. Either that or killed in a gang fight. have a good life.[/QUOTE]

I dont understand how you can't understand where the guy is coming from. **** the refs

[QUOTE=GoRapz]I dont understand how you can't understand where the guy is coming from. **** the refs[/QUOTE]

I'm being dead serious. You should seek professional help. If you think it's ok to almost kill a guy because of a basketball game, you need REAL help.

classic

[QUOTE=El Gato Negro]classic[/QUOTE]

GOBB is way out of line

He should be put away for a longtime.

[QUOTE=SomeBunghole]Considering the amount of hate and bile hurled at the refs, isn't that the next logical step? Vigilante justice?

You have(or had until this year) players screaming at the refs, fans hurling abuse at the refs, owners criticizing the refs. One had to wonder how long before players start beating up refs. And unlike sports like soccer, the physical disparity between the refs and players is huge.

I hope people who complain that the "Rasheed Wallace Rule" is draconian watch this clip.[/QUOTE]

I agree with your message but basketball has it very good in comparison to soccer.
The ref figure in American sports is much more respected than in soccer, where referees getting phisical abuse has happened on plenty of ocassions.

I had an old PS1 soccer game that allowed you to punch the referee if you where red carded, like wise, you could tackle him any time he was making a decision and get a red. Times have changed

Trolling is so overrated. Shit is really not as funny as some kids think it is.

everyone always says how much better the 2006 class is, but reading this thread just shows it was the same shit back then too

and then the other players start waiving their sweaty smelly jerseys in the poor guys face...........:oldlol:

I guess refs are held accountable there?

[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]everyone always says how much better the 2006 class is, but reading this thread just shows it was the same shit back then too[/QUOTE]
at least nobody is posting Hentai back then.

douche move, did the ref live?