Colorado boy facing felony charges in airsoft gun mishap

[QUOTE=Dolphin]Potential results of the action? We know what the results are. Nothing happened and the kids are still friends because nothing happned. Thank you, come again.

I never said a kid with a toy gun can't be bad because of the things I did as a kid. lol I said knowing full well that a kid doesn't need to go to juve to get over this incident (because I know many a kid who did these types of things and didn't need to go to juve), I think this DA is a crackhead.

According to you, anger + split second mistake that resulted in no harm = felony charge for a minor. The fact that you used the word bullet before, I think you have this idea that the kid stole a gun from his dad's desser, aimed at his friend's head and pulled the trigger. lol

The only footing you have in the argument is if this kid had a prior record. We can't prove he didn't, but you can't prove he did. So what are you arguing here? And ya, kids without prior records do get ****ed over by the law. It happens all the time, dummy.:roll:[/QUOTE]

Again, the immature thought process.

'Split second mistake'? Had he gotten mad, thrown the gun on the floor, and it misfired, hitting the other kid? That's a split second mistake.

Fire the gun...real or toy...in the air in anger, and the ricochet hurts someone? Mistake. Possibly a punishable mistake, but a mistake none the less.

Having the presence of mind, when mad, to fire the handy gun...real or toy...[B]at someone [/B]isn't a mistake. It's a decision.

And a BB gun is considered a deadly weapon in many jurisdictions.

[QUOTE=shlver]Are you dumb? If not, why are you dumbing down the argument? I never said that shooting a bb gun equals the potential of murder in the future. I said the anger and the split second decision equals murder. It is fully at the discretion of the DA to prosecute an actual crime that caused bodily injury. Doesn't matter if they're friends, if it was an accident, if it was settled by an xbox. It is not ludicrous as you guys make it sound. I see it more of as a preventive measure. I know a lecture from my parents wouldn't stop me from doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]

So you are assuming there is a legit chance this kid might seriously harm or muder someone later on without any proof?

I guess I'm gonna have to wait until more facts are released. ie. this kid seriously harmed people before.

[QUOTE=Dolphin]So you are assuming there is a legit chance this kid might seriously harm or muder someone later on without any proof?

I guess I'm gonna have to wait until more facts are released. ie. this kid seriously harmed people before.[/QUOTE]
No I'm not assuming anything. You brought up intent. I just know that the kid shot his friend in the face and it is perfectly in the rights of the DA to prosecute.

[QUOTE=JMT]Again, the immature thought process.

'Split second mistake'? Had he gotten mad, thrown the gun on the floor, and it misfired, hitting the other kid? That's a split second mistake.

Fire the gun...real or toy...in the air in anger, and the ricochet hurts someone? Mistake. Possibly a punishable mistake, but a mistake none the less.

Having the presence of mind, when mad, to fire the handy gun...real or toy...[B]at someone [/B]isn't a mistake. It's a decision.[/QUOTE]

Dropping the gun and it firing isn't a mistake. That's an accident. lol

Does continuously saying "immature thought process" make you feel better about your argument. Cause you're the only one buying that what I'm saying is immature. Obviously you and one or two others disagree, but immature? Really? Where did you learn your argumentative skills? lol

It was a mistake for the kid to aim at his friend and fire. Yes, a mistake. Hence the term "a mistake of judgement".

Go to school. You need it.

[QUOTE=shlver]No I'm not assuming anything. You brought up intent. I just know that the kid shot his friend in the face and it is perfectly in the rights of the DA to prosecute.[/QUOTE]

No shit it's the DA's right. That's the whole point. He's abusing his right. A lot of stupid things are protected by legal rights. lol

[QUOTE]Dropping the gun and it firing isn't a mistake. That's an accident. lol

Does continuously saying "immature thought process" make you feel better about your argument. Cause you're the only one buying that what I'm saying is immature. Obviously you and one or two others disagree, but immature? Really? Where did you learn your argumentative skills? lol

[B]It was a mistake for the kid to aim at his friend and fire. Yes, a mistake. Hence the term "a mistake of judgement".[/B]

Go to school. You need it.
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Which is illegal.

[QUOTE][B]No shit it's the DA's right. That's the whole point. He's abusing his right. A lot of stupid things are protected by legal rights. lol[/B][/QUOTE]
How is it an abuse? Because they are friends? Because he is young? Because they settled it with an xbox?

[QUOTE=shlver]Which is illegal.


How is it an abuse? Because they are friends? Because he is young? Because they settled it with an xbox?[/QUOTE]

So you believe any act that is illegal should be prosecuted? That ideology is the reason people went to jail for 20 years because they were smoking a joint. lol

It is an abuse of his power because there is no end game to his prosecution. What does it solve? Nothing. Kids will still make mistakes. What does it do for the specific kid? It will send him to juve and give him a record. But that's fine because you seemingly think this kid can't be corrected at home...you don't know him, but he must be pretty horrible in your eyes to waste this much time and money on him.

[QUOTE=shlver]Which is illegal.


How is it an abuse? Because they are friends? Because he is young? Because they settled it with an xbox?[/QUOTE]
Are you a f[COLOR="Black"]uc[/COLOR]king police officer or something? Or just a complete dickhead?

sh!t like this is pointless it was a accident that could have gone bad but didnt parties settled all ended up well no need for things to get further, you talk about all stuff illegal should be prosecuted, yet we get dumb fuks like Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton who constantly get caught doing drugs, driving under the influence with mere slaps of the hand or minor punishment. Yet you side with a DA who wants to get involved in a petty accident that was settled right of the bat? Im thinking this DA just wants to make a name for himself or get into the news. As I mentioned there are more crimes that need to be worried about then to spend some time on something this petty.

[QUOTE=DRoseOwnsACamry]Are you a f[COLOR="Black"]uc[/COLOR]king police officer or something? Or just a complete dickhead?[/QUOTE]
probably just a schist er dick lawyer or both who will probably sue me because I defamed him in the interwebs:rolleyes:

When it's an adult, it's one thing, but a kid? come on, now. let him give the x-blox to his friend as "restitution," make the kid do some community service hours, or something. Throwing the book at him at 13 is unreasonable if he has people going to bat for him saying it was a momentary lapse of judgement.

When I was 13, I was playing hustle with a few friends before school and one of my better friends tapped my shot to bring me back down to zero. I turned around to him, laughed, and said "When I come here and pull a columbine, you're first on my list." The next day, I get called down to the principal's office found out a parent overheard it and called the school. Could I have gotten kicked out of school? Sure...they have a zero tolerance policy. But instead of going after me right away, the cops asked teachers (i had all A's and B's and never acted out), the kid's mom (who was a teacher at the school, i went to her house all the time...she thought I should not have gotten in trouble at all), the basketball coaches at the school, and everyone said it was just a stupid mistake, so i only received one day of ISS and was told to watch what I say from then on. Never got in any trouble again in middle and high school. That situation could have ruined the rest of my childhood, and I'm glad there were intelligent adults around that would rather help than punish me.

[QUOTE=shlver]Petty? He shot his friend in the face in anger... Worst case scenario he could have been blinded. You wouldnt say that shooting someone in the face with a bb gun was petty if the kid was blinded.[/QUOTE]

and he didnt shoot his friend with a BB gun

he shot him with something barely stronger than a NERF gun

[QUOTE=Dolphin]Dropping the gun and it firing isn't a mistake. That's an accident. lol

Does continuously saying "immature thought process" make you feel better about your argument. Cause you're the only one buying that what I'm saying is immature. Obviously you and one or two others disagree, but immature? Really? Where did you learn your argumentative skills? lol

It was a mistake for the kid to aim at his friend and fire. Yes, a mistake. Hence the term "a mistake of judgement".

Go to school. You need it.

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The scenario presented was "Had he [B]gotten mad, thrown the gun on the floor,[/B] and it misfired, hitting the other kid? That's a split second mistake." Not dropped by accident. Thrown. Mistake, not accident.

Either your reading comprehension is very bad or you're so desperate to be perceived as right that you adjust facts to support your argument.

And as far as going to school? The correct term is a 'mistake [B]in[/B] judgment'. And 'judgment' isn't spelled with an 'e'.

Mistakes in judgment land people in really big trouble all the time. Getting behind the wheel after too much to drink? A mistake in judgment. Mistakes in judgment are punishable when they involve another persons safety or well being.

Because the projectile didn't permanently or seriously harm doesn't mean the decision, the choice he made, goes away.

Slver must not have siblings, I can't tell you how many times I've snapped at my brother growing up.

BTW, I have several friends who are lawyers in Colorado.

I asked a couple about this today and their individual responses without knowing what the other said were "That DA is made fun of by other lawyers as a fascist up here" and "I met that guy and the dude may as well be from the movie 1984"

He apparently also tried to pin murder on a 80 year old man who shot an illegal immigrant that was robbing his house and threatening to kill him fairly recently.

The one friend that called him a fascist defended a guy against him that was up for felony sexual assault for the crime of being drunk and peeing on a tree in public. :wtf:

:facepalm


so..... yea. awesome DA.

if the kid was white just let off with a warning because i know he did unintentionally and if he's not send him to prison for minimum 20 years. :applause:

[QUOTE=JMT]The scenario presented was "Had he [B]gotten mad, thrown the gun on the floor,[/B] and it misfired, hitting the other kid? That's a split second mistake." Not dropped by accident. Thrown. Mistake, not accident.

Either your reading comprehension is very bad or you're so desperate to be perceived as right that you adjust facts to support your argument.

And as far as going to school? The correct term is a 'mistake [B]in[/B] judgment'. And 'judgment' isn't spelled with an 'e'.

Mistakes in judgment land people in really big trouble all the time. Getting behind the wheel after too much to drink? A mistake in judgment. Mistakes in judgment are punishable when they involve another persons safety or well being.

Because the projectile didn't permanently or seriously harm doesn't mean the decision, the choice he made, goes away.[/QUOTE]

You know your arguement is running out of steam when you gotta resort to spell checking for people.:roll:

I'm not desperate to be percieved as right. Most of the people in this thread agree with me.........but I'm sure you're gonna ignore this. lol

And ya, throwing your gun on the ground in anger, not trying to shoot anyone, is an accident. How dense can you be?

Catch ya later, holmes.

[QUOTE=Kungfro]Slver must not have siblings, I can't tell you how many times I've snapped at my brother growing up.[/QUOTE]
I didnt have any siblings around my age, but I remember snapping at my friends several times, shit just happens.

[QUOTE=kentatm]and he didnt shoot his friend with a BB gun

he shot him with something barely stronger than a NERF gun[/QUOTE]

This. It's dumb to try and correlate the decision made with a non-lethal weapon with that of a lethal weapon. You don't take the same precautions when handling a toy verses handling a weapon.

I wonder if you bump your friend in a go kart race you are displaying a personality trait towards road rage as well. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Dolphin]So you believe any act that is illegal should be prosecuted? That ideology is the reason people went to jail for 20 years because they were smoking a joint. lol

It is an abuse of his power because there is no end game to his prosecution. What does it solve? Nothing. Kids will still make mistakes. What does it do for the specific kid? It will send him to juve and give him a record. But that's fine because you seemingly think this kid can't be corrected at home...you don't know him, but he must be pretty horrible in your eyes to waste this much time and money on him.[/QUOTE]
You keep jumping from different arguments. How is it an abuse of power if what the boy did was illegal?
[QUOTE]It's not a bb gun douchenozzle, it's an airsoft gun. They barely leave a bruise when you shoot them a half inch away from your skin.

What kid hasn't made a rash decision in their life? A friend of mine came at me with a hockey stick, which is much more dangerous. He's in an ivy league school now.

The other kid wasn't hurt, they made up. Just leave it alone.[/QUOTE]
Says the guy who thinks getting slipped a roofie is that person's own fault for not being aware
Doesn't matter if it was a BB or airsoft. And lmfao at barely leaving a bruise at half an inch away. This guy got shot in the eye where it can do debilitating damage.

[QUOTE=shlver]You keep jumping from different arguments. How is it an abuse of power if what the boy did was illegal?

Says the guy who thinks getting slipped a roofie is that person's own fault for not being aware
Doesn't matter if it was a BB or airsoft. And lmfao at barely leaving a bruise at half an inch away. This guy got shot in the eye where it can do debilitating damage.[/QUOTE]
If you shoot a rubber band at someones eye you can cause a lot of damage. Doesn't mean you should be trying the kid for a felony. You're just playing devil's advocate and going on technicalalities in the law while blatantly ignoring the conext of the situation. It was a KID who accidently shot his friend in the eye with the equivalent of a ****ing nerf gun, and he's getting charged with a FELONY that will cause him HUGE problems later in life and ruin his future. You're a clown.:facepalm

[QUOTE=shlver]
[B]Doesn't matter if it was a BB or airsoft.[/B] And lmfao at barely leaving a bruise at half an inch away. This guy got shot in the eye where it can do debilitating damage.[/QUOTE]


:facepalm


Hey moron, an airsoft is NOT considered a deadly weapon so the difference absolutely matters. Its a TOY that can be bought by kids of all ages. It can barely shoot through a piece of paper.

Why are you being so stupid about this?

[QUOTE=tpols]If you shoot a rubber band at someones eye you can cause a lot of damage. Doesn't mean you should be trying the kid for a felony. You're just playing devil's advocate and going on technicalalities in the law while blatantly ignoring the conext of the situation. It was a KID who accidently shot his friend in the eye with the equivalent of a ****ing nerf gun, and he's getting charged with a FELONY that will cause him HUGE problems later in life and ruin his future. You're a clown.:facepalm[/QUOTE]
I'm not advocating the decision of the DA to try it as a felony, and most of my opinions were formulated on the basis of my incorrect assumption that the gun used was a BB gun where the kid could have killed his friend. However most of your guys' arguments are just retarded and the statement that the DA's decision is an abuse of power is laughable.

[QUOTE=kentatm]:facepalm


Hey moron, an airsoft is NOT considered a deadly weapon so the difference absolutely matters. Its a TOY that can be bought by kids of all ages. It can barely shoot through a piece of paper.

Why are you being so stupid about this?[/QUOTE]
Not true. you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun. :roll: at barely shooting through paper. A projectile going at 250 fps can barely go through a piece of paper? Are you stupid?

Shiiit man. No harm no foul. My buddies and I use to have huge 10 x 10 airsoft battles when we were kids.

I was shot with a pellet gun in the eye b4.

[QUOTE=shlver]I'm not advocating the decision of the DA to try it as a felony, and most of my opinions were formulated on the basis of my incorrect assumption that the gun used was a BB gun where the kid could have killed his friend. However most of your guys' arguments are just retarded and the statement that the DA's decision is an abuse of power is laughable.[/QUOTE]

How is it laughable? A DA has the choice to prosecute in these types of cases. Considering prosecuting this kid benefits no one, nor society as a whole, the DA certainly is abusing his power to charge the kid.

The fact that you can't get this through your head is concerning.

Again, if something comes out later that says this kid was killing cats in his basement or had a long history of violence against other kids, then sure, something has to be done. But we don't know that, so you certainly aren't basing your position on that. You come off as a highschooler going through one of those typical phases where you have to go against everything to feel different.

[QUOTE=shlver]Not true. you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun. :roll: at barely shooting through paper. A projectile going at 250 fps can barely go through a piece of paper? Are you stupid?[/QUOTE]

:wtf: :facepalm

maybe you should look in the mirror and ask the question to yourself.

the one he has shoots at cant possibly be going over 150-200 max (an average paint gun shoots at around 280) and [B]THERE IS NO AGE LAW[/B] in the US for airsoft guns.


the news station doing the report even tested it and half the shots could not make it through a piece of paper.

did you even read the damn story?

[QUOTE]FOX31 News[B] tested an identical airsoft toy gun[/B] and fired it at a piece of notebook paper. [B]Sometimes the plastic beads went through the paper and sometimes they bounced off.[/B] Firearms expert and [B]former police officer Rich Wyatt [/B]says, “It’s a toy, it’s an airsoft gun that can be purchased in any store. [B] You don’t have to be any age to purchase it.[/B]” [/QUOTE]

Anyone who thinks this is a justified charge, are disgusting. And part of the problem with America. We don't need the POLICE and the COURTS to settle every thing in our lives! It used to be that people argued, kids wrestled, people got hurt, people did dumb things... and that was the end of it. But there's people even in this very forum who thinks these charges are justified. A felony is a huge setback in a persons life, and in America we just throw them around like parking tickets. Why do we have such desire to put our own citizens in prison? Why can't we handle anything without the police?

JMT and others like him DISGUST me.

As for this story, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. I remember one time I cut my friend with an axe when we were playing with his Dad's tools. Left him a nice little scar on his arm. Good thing his parents didn't call the EMT's or I might be doing a 25-life bid at the moment.

It's disguised as order but what it really does is turn kids off to rules and the law of the land.

What a petty way to handle this dispute. If the boy says he's sorry and the other boy accepts then just drop it.

Keep the boy on a 2 year probation period and if he does something else wrong throw the book at him, if he doesn't, clear his record.

But having all these petty laws are turning our youth away from what we are supposed to be endearing them to.

The parents should be facing charges, not the child. It's their responsibility to teach gun safety, even when giving their kids airsoft guns. You never point at anything you don't intend to fire upon, and you should never fire upon other people. If the kid isn't mature enough to handle that kind of "toy" (reacting poorly to something that got him upset, and firing on another person), then that's on the parents.

No one has brought race into yet? Guess I'm right on time then.

This kid is getting off pretty easy and he should be thankful, because if he were black he would have the entire justice system thrown at him. Would most likely be locked up until 18 and then put on probation.