This has been bizarre from day one.
I never understood why it was changed in the first place, as it was never made clear.
I never believed Stern would go back to the old ball.
I am stunned.
This is David Stern's "New Coke" fiasco. For those too young to remember, google "New Coke"....
[QUOTE=vert48]Bunch of overpaid crybabies.[/QUOTE]
i agree.. maybe they shouldnt have changed it in the first place, but they did, so just get over it and keep the damn ball atleast until next year.
Maybe with the new ball the Jazz will start to suck again and the Heat will be good?
[QUOTE=StroShow4]i agree.. maybe they shouldnt have changed it in the first place, but they did, so just get over it and keep the damn ball atleast until next year.[/QUOTE]
Unless they find there is an actual, real problem with the ball....e.g. it doesn't bounce right, too slippery, etc., i agree. They should just finish this season with new ball and then go back.
But I guess maybe they DID find real problems and legitimate grievances, and said "let's just switch".
But if you think about it, what's the difference if they switch? We all have played hoops on the playground and each time you play it's a different type of ball. So you adjust...not a big deal.
It'll take players 2 games to adjust and it'll be no big deal. It's just the whole situation looks ridiculous.
This is certainly surprising; I didn't expect Stern to cave on this. I wonder how he'll approach the tech situation. My guess is that he'll choose to fight that one.
[QUOTE=Smokee]well its not like they can because they'll get a quick T. Theres a difference between tightening up on the players crying and this no tolerance that Stern put in. He's basically conditioning them to play like robots right now and there isnt **** they can do about it.
Personally i think the new carry rule is the dumbest thing they put in. I can understand calling some **** AI would do, but alot of the carry calls this year are rediculouosly stupid and definitely not consistent. Its nuts how one player gets called for a carry for half a crossover while another player who does the same exact thing doesnt. Refs got way too much power this year and i blame it all on that dictator Stern :([/QUOTE]
Sure they can.
Let's think about this for a minute. Who is a ref going to listen to more? Someone who has a Rasheed hissy fit and barks and swears, and gets up in the refs face, or someone who they can have a civil, semi-respectable debate with over a call. I'm telling you, the quick t's aren't a factor anymore. What is a Rasheed reaction going to get you? Do you think the refs are going to back down and be scared because a player got in their face? I understand the game of basketball is all about emotion. It should be. But, emotion should not overcome temper tantrums. It's that simple. A player CAN control how they react to a call. The league has adjusted, as they should've. Now, we don't see those stupid outburts, and the game is better.
And the carrying and traveling calls should be called. Players were beginning to get away with too much with the ball. Moving their feet before dribbling, carrying on a crossover...it got out of hand.
NBA to Go Back to Old Ball
Monday, December 11, 2006 5:14 PM EST
The Associated Press
By BRIAN MAHONEY
NEW YORK (AP)
YEWW what you guys think the new nba ball is gone
i hope they start selling the "new" ones for cheap since nobody's using them
[QUOTE=statman32]WOW...very surprising
Say goodbye to your stats kevin martin[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. Kevin Martin swishes in a lot of his buckets. Swishes work the same way with the old ball. It has a greater effect on shots that roll around the rim.
Nevertheless, I will be watching how much of an effect it has on him.
I think if the league is going to do this they have to change the results of the Nets vs. Wizards game earlier this year. VC hit a game tying 3 at the buzzer to send it to OT, but the old ball it would have been a brick. new ball thudded on the back of the rim and calmly rolled in. total BS. carter bricked that shot, period.
I wonder how players will re-adjust to the new ball.
Mark Cuban is somewhere just :roll: :roll: :roll:
I can't wait to hear his comments.
I think part of the problems with Stern's rule changes is exactly what someone said. He's becoming a dictator. I think the players association decided to take a step, albeit a baby step towards pushing back. I don't see where the commissioner should or needs to be a dictator.
My biggest issue with the new T'ing policy is not so much the behavior issue, but the fact that the referees have become untouchable. You can't talk about calls outside a game, or you're fined. You can't complain inside the game because you're called for a technical. So where are the checks and balances on the refs?
And personally I can't stand Stephen A. Smith and I wish he'd get throat cancer so I don't have to hear him (ok, I didn't mean that literally).
But concerning his comment about Stern giving back the little play but holding back on the matters that really mean something to him... I don't think that's entirely accurate.
It's no secret that Spaulding was really pushing for the new ball. I don't know if the new ball is less expensive to make, costs more or what the deal is, but I think this isn't so small an issue as it sounds. I think it causes Stern some issues with one of the biggest sponsors in the league.
Mathius
what a waste of $ to make/introduce that new ball. stern obviously didn't do enough r&d. what a dork.
maybe bibby's shot will finally start dropping..sheesh..
I guess the new ball will be in the clearance section at Wal-Mart for $4.99.
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]I guess the new ball will be in the clearance section at Wal-Mart for $4.99.[/QUOTE]
I actually think the price will skyrocket. I said this before before the season when I said if it gets discontinued, it would become a "special edition collectors rare item."
Good to see the Stern dictatorship cave in on this on. The new
ball does some weird *****. It sticks to the hands of the players
and is causing cuts on the hands of PGs. It gets stuck between
the rim and backboard. It clanks off of the rim and goes in and
out robbing many a shot. The ball dribbles weird and causes
more unforced TOs than the good old one.
The new ball isnt as cheap as I thought. I saw one advertised
at Sportschalet (sportschalet.com) for $100 yesterday.:cry:
[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]I actually think the price will skyrocket. I said this before before the season when I said if it gets discontinued, it would become a "special edition collectors rare item."[/QUOTE]
Why would people pay extra for a rubber playground ball that everyone hates? I would hardly consider this cheap composite P-O-S to be a collector's item.
[QUOTE=JSub]Why would people pay extra for a rubber playground ball that everyone hates? I would hardly consider this cheap composite P-O-S to be a collector's item.[/QUOTE]
In 5 years it will be valuable, I'm talking $500 a piece.
part of me doesnt want it to come back teh way the suns are playin:oldlol:
I think your right, it could be a collectors item...
[QUOTE=305Baller]They pulled it quicker than New Coke.
New Coke > Micro Fiber Ball[/QUOTE]
I actually thought New Coke was better.
Smart move by Stern. This was a no-brainer, but he could have turned stubborn and kept the new ball for the whole year. A lesson for the Godfather that he needs to consult with players before making a decision affecting the integrity of the game.
I don't think he'll cave on the tech situation, which will resolve itself in the end. With less player histrionics, the need to give out more techs will disappear.
[QUOTE=bence23]part of me doesnt want it to come back teh way the suns are playin:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
You will when Steve Nash's hands are fishnets by march.
i am pumped, great news!
[QUOTE=GOBB]Stephen A Smith made a good point.[/QUOTE]
It'd be the first time.
As for the ball, I think they should have switched it back last year so there's no problem with adjusting mid-season, but in theory I love that they are reverting.
"After more than two months of complaining by some of its biggest superstars and scores of other players, the NBA is giving the boot to its new microfiber composite basketball and bringing back the old leather ball that had been in use for 36 years."
[URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/479404p-403276c.html"]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/479404p-403276c.html[/URL]
Stern admitted that he was wrong. I wonder what else he's been wrong about.
i work a blocks away from the nba store...gonna pick up the ball *collector's item* during lunch
reliving the thread that the NBA decided that a leather ball was to costly to use :facepalm
The historic times of the NBA
This is why scoring was up in 2005-2006.
There was a time when many high schools switched to this ball:
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I've used it and the grip is so much better.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]This is why scoring was up in 2005-2006.[/QUOTE]
I forgot this was a big part of it
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]I forgot this was a big part of it[/QUOTE]
You didn't forget. You were still in diapers.
[QUOTE=aj1987]You didn't forget. You were still in diapers.[/QUOTE]
God damn :biggums:
Murder.
Savage
[QUOTE=aj1987]You didn't forget. You were still in diapers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=aj1987]You didn't forget. You were still in diapers.[/QUOTE]
To get owned in a thread from a decade ago :oldlol:
[QUOTE=aj1987]You didn't forget. You were still in diapers.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: