[QUOTE=MeLO MvP 15]SMH at no Melo. Pau underachieves all year and they put him over LaMarcus and Zach Randolph, and completely snub Melo.[/QUOTE]
Melo did not deserve ALL-NBA this season IMO
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[QUOTE=MeLO MvP 15]SMH at no Melo. Pau underachieves all year and they put him over LaMarcus and Zach Randolph, and completely snub Melo.[/QUOTE]
Melo did not deserve ALL-NBA this season IMO
[QUOTE]NEW YORK -- Derrick Rose of the Chicago Bulls, the 2010-11 Kia NBA Most Valuable Player, and LeBron James of the Miami Heat, winner of the two previous MVP awards, highlight the 2010-11 All-NBA First Team. James was the lone unanimous choice, receiving all 119 first-place votes. Joining James and Rose on the First Team are Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers, Kevin Durant of the Oklahoma City Thunder and Dwight Howard of the Orlando Magic.
Earning his first All-NBA team selection, Rose led the Bulls to an NBA-best 62-20 mark. He averaged team highs of 25.0 points and 7.7 assists to go along with 4.1 rebounds, becoming only the seventh player in NBA history to average at least 25.0 points, 7.5 assists and 4.0 rebounds. Rose was the only player in the NBA to rank in the top 10 in scoring (seventh) and assists (10th).
James, who earns First Team honors for the fourth straight season and fifth time overall, was second in the NBA in scoring (26.7 ppg), and averaged team highs in assists (7.0 apg) and steals (1.57 spg) to go along with 7.5 rpg. James became the first player in history to surpass the 2,000-point, 500-rebound, 500-assist and 100-steal marks in four consecutive seasons.
Howard, an All-NBA First Team selection for the fourth consecutive season, earned the 2010-11 Kia NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award, becoming the first player to win the award three straight seasons. He led the league with 66 double-doubles, while ranking second in rebounds (14.1 rpg) and fourth in blocks (2.38 bpg). Howard also averaged a career-high 22.9 points.
Bryant, an All-NBA First Team selection for the sixth straight season and ninth time in his career, finished fifth in the league in scoring (25.3 ppg), while averaging 5.1 rebounds and 4.7 assists. Among active players, Bryant is tied with the San Antonio Spurs' Tim Duncan for most First Team selections.
Durant earns his second All-NBA First Team selection. Durant led the league in scoring (27.7 ppg) for the second consecutive year, to go along with 6.8 rebounds and 2.7 assists. Durant scored at least 40 in a league-high five games this season.
The All-NBA Second Team consists of guards Dwyane Wade of the Miami Heat and Russell Westbrook of the Oklahoma City Thunder, forwards Pau Gasol of the Los Angeles Lakers and Dirk Nowitzki of the Dallas Mavericks, and center Amar'e Stoudemire of the New York Knicks.
The All-NBA Third Team includes the San Antonio Spurs' Manu Ginobili and the New Orleans Hornets' Chris Paul at guard, the Portland Trail Blazers' LaMarcus Aldridge and the Memphis Grizzlies' Zach Randolph at forward, and the Atlanta Hawks' Al Horford at center.
The All-NBA Teams were chosen by a panel of 119 sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. The media voted for All-NBA First, Second and Third Teams by position with points awarded on a 5-3-1 basis.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nba.com/2011/news/05/12/all-nba-release/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2[/url]
:applause:
Dwyane should of been there over either Rose/Kobe. It shouldn't even be close. There's no case whatsoever either of them have over Wade. If it's better player it should be Wade, if better statistical season it should be Wade as well. SMH
This is an appreciation thread, not a debate thread.
No way was Wade going over Rose, he had a case over Kobe though.
:facepalm @ Kobe over Wade
[QUOTE=Indian guy]:facepalm @ Kobe over Wade[/QUOTE]
That's what I said
[QUOTE=Glide2keva]This is an appreciation thread, not a debate thread.
[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
Congrats to Rose and the other honorees.
Grats to all the players! Especially to Derrick Rose.
Third year: MVP, All-NBA First Team. Not too shabby.
[QUOTE=Glide2keva]This is an appreciation thread, not a debate thread.
No way was Wade going over Rose, he had a case over Kobe though.[/QUOTE]
He didn't just have a "case" to be there instead of kobe. He was clearly better. Infact. What case did Kobe have to be on it instead of wade?
[QUOTE=DWade06]He didn't just have a "case" to be there instead of kobe. He was clearly better. Infact. What case did Kobe have to be on it instead of wade?[/QUOTE]
I'm agreeing with you.
[QUOTE=TheNaturalWR]Dwyane should of been there over either Rose/Kobe. It shouldn't even be close. There's no case whatsoever either of them have over Wade. If it's better player it should be Wade, if better statistical season it should be Wade as well. SMH[/QUOTE]
Wade over the MVP? Okay.
[QUOTE=Kellogs4toniee]Grats to all the players! Especially to Derrick Rose.
Third year: MVP, All-NBA First Team. Not too shabby.[/QUOTE]
And didn't deserve either one. Notice how they didn't print the second-team's stats or it would look very embarrassing, especially if they printed the across-the-board stats.
[QUOTE=jrong]And didn't deserve either one. Notice how they didn't print the second-team's stats or it would look very embarrassing, especially if they printed the across-the-board stats.[/QUOTE]
Stats are everything! :facepalm
He carried an injury ridden team to 62 wins.
[QUOTE=(e)]Wade over the MVP? Okay.[/QUOTE]
Wade was more far valuable than Rose as an individual player this year. Rose benefitted from the fact that the two best players in the world played together, the Bulls hired an all-time-great defensive coach, and he was the best player in a one-man-offense situation (yet had a second best player as Carlos Boozer whereas Wade had Jermaine O'Neal), in which he performed nowhere near as well as Wade did, when he was in a similar situation.
[QUOTE=jrong]Wade was more far valuable than Rose as an individual player this year. Rose benefitted from the fact that the two best players in the world played together, the Bulls hired an all-time-great defensive coach, and he was the best player in a one-man-offense situation (yet had a second best player as Carlos Boozer whereas Wade had Jermaine O'Neal), in which he performed nowhere near as well as Wade did, when he was in a similar situation.[/QUOTE]
What? Wade had LeBron and Bosh.
Rose had Boozer who was injured for a 1/3 of the year. And Rose took his team to 62 wins.
The MVP was well deserved. Quit hating.
[QUOTE=(e)]Stats are everything! :facepalm
He carried an injury ridden team to 62 wins.[/QUOTE]
No, his coach's defense did. When Wade puts up better stats next to the most statistically-dominant/ ball-dominant player possibly in history than Rose did playing as a one-man-offense, it leads to a pretty unavoidable conclusion:
Wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rose.
Had to be one right?
Can't just tip your hat? Just had to come spewing hate for Rose.
F[B]u[/B]ck you.
[QUOTE=jrong]No his coach's defense did. When Wade puts up better stats next to the most statistically-dominant player possibly in history than Rose did playing as a one-man-offense, it leads to a pretty unavoidable conclusion:
Wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rose.[/QUOTE]
Take Rose off the Bulls, how many games do they win this year?
Take Wade off the Heat, how many games do they win this year?
Seriously thinking Wade deserved the MVP? :facepalm
[QUOTE=(e)]Wade over the MVP? Okay.[/QUOTE]
You can make the case that Rose deserved it over Kobe, fine. But NOBODY was on Wade's level at the guard position this year. Efficiency matters.
[QUOTE=jrong]You can make the case that Rose deserved it over Kobe, fine. But NOBODY was on Wade's level at the guard position this year. Efficiency matters.[/QUOTE]
For the record, I agree Wade should be there over Kobe, but to disrespect what Rose did this year is assinine.
Every single guy who thinks Rose 1. deserved the NBA, and 2. because he was the MVP he was better than Wade please answer this.
The years Michael Jordan did not win the MVP and lost to Malone and Robinson... Were those two guys better than Michael Jordan? If you answer yes I feel sorry for you, and if you answer NO you have exposed your hypocrisy.
[QUOTE=(e)]Take Rose off the Bulls, how many games do they win this year?
Take Wade off the Heat, how many games do they win this year?
Seriously thinking Wade deserved the MVP? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
No Dwight Howard, then LeBron, then Wade.
[QUOTE]Had to be one right?
Can't just tip your hat? Just had to come spewing hate for Rose.
**** you.[/QUOTE]
When Wade had yet another honor stolen from him? Yes. I could give a shit about Rose. He's a pimple.
But, this affects Wade's legacy and place in history, comparisons with Jerry West, Kobe Bryant etc.
[U]1st team: [/U]
G- Rose
G-Kobe
F- James
F-Durant
C-Howard
[U]2nd team:[/U]
G- Wade
G-Westbrook
F-Gasol
F-Nowtizki
C-Amare
[U]3rd team:[/U]
G-Ginobli
G-Paul
F-Aldrige
F-Z-Bo
C-Horford
well deserved:applause:
Wade and Nowitzki got robbed!
Its beyond pathetic now.
Durant deserved his and im a huge Dirk fan
[QUOTE=jrong]No, his coach's defense did. When Wade puts up better stats next to the most statistically-dominant/ ball-dominant player possibly in history than Rose did playing as a one-man-offense, it leads to a pretty unavoidable conclusion:
Wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rose.[/QUOTE]
You are really beginning to make me start hating Wade. Boozer and Noah has been injured for most of the season and even when Boozer played he injured his ankle again and was playing like a scrub after the all-star break. Without Rose the bulls would be the bucks.
it's good to see alridge there after he has been robbed of an all star selection
the rest is good you could argue dirk over durant but is ok
Switch rose for wade
Props to Horford for making the 3rd team! :cheers:
It really shows how totally horrible the center position has become though, he wouldn't be a top 5 PF if he was playing his real position.
[QUOTE=LBJ4MVP23]Every single guy who thinks Rose 1. deserved the NBA, and 2. because he was the MVP he was better than Wade please answer this.
The years Michael Jordan did not win the MVP and lost to Malone and Robinson... [B]Were those two guys better than Michael Jordan[/B]? If you answer yes I feel sorry for you, and if you answer NO you have exposed your hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]
IT's not the best player award you....it's the MOST [B]VALUABLE[/B] PLAYER.
You have exposed your lack of comprehension.
[QUOTE=juju151111]You are really beginning to make me start hating Wade. Boozer and Noah has been injured for most of the season and even when Boozer played he injured his ankle again and was playing like a scrub after the all-star break. Without Rose the bulls would be the bucks.[/QUOTE]
That's cool. Hate whoever you want. I feel bad beating up on Rose because he's a nice kid. It's like kicking a puppy.
But, a VERY unique set of circumstances caused him to way prematurely jump almost to the head of the class, and it is ****ing with an all-time-great player's legacy as a result.
Wade was getting all-NBA teams stolen from in his second and third year too by Steve Nash, but it was somewhat acceptable because the norm is to wait your turn. But, now? Wade deserves to have Kobe-like automatic-benefit-of-the-doubt-status. And in this case, he wouldn't have needed it because he was easily the best guard in the league this season.
[QUOTE=jrong]That's cool. Hate whoever you want. I feel bad beating up on Rose because he's a nice kid. It's like kicking a puppy.
But, a VERY unique set of circumstances caused him to way prematurely jump almost to the head of the class, and it is ****ing with an all-time-great player's legacy as a result.
[U]Wade was getting all-NBA teams stolen from in his second and third year too by Steve Nash, but it was acceptable because the norm is to wait your turn. But, now? Wade deserves to have Kobe-like automatic-benefit-of-the-doubt-status. And in this case, he wouldn't have needed it because he was easily the best guard in the league this season[/U].[/QUOTE]
Omg, stop it you're killing me:roll:
[QUOTE=Go Getter]Omg, stop it you're killing me:roll:[/QUOTE]
Which part of what I said wasn't true? Would you like me to do a comprison between Wade and Nash in 05 and 06? Or would you like me to show you that he was the best guard in the world in 2011. Because I can do either one, or both, if you like.
[QUOTE=Glide2keva]Had to be one right?
Can't just tip your hat? Just had to come spewing hate for Rose.
F[B]u[/B]ck you.[/QUOTE]
Ill tip my hat when you take his d[B]i[/B]ck outta your mouth.
[QUOTE=jrong]Which part of what I said wasn't true? Would you like me to do a comprison between Wade and Nash in 05 and 06? Or would you like me to show you that he was the best guard in the world in 2011. Because I can do either one, or both, if you like.[/QUOTE]
You can do what you want but you arguing stats against an award that is about VALUE to a team not individual stats.
And your romantic stance on Wade and what he deserves is comical, really.:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Skep]Ill tip my hat when you take his Dlck outta your mouth.[/QUOTE]
MFer with all the Rose hate you spew(ed), and the INSANE shit you said about him/the Bulls this summer you should just stfu and log off--right now.
Wade is so underrated in The media.
The truth is he has been just as good as LeBron this season, and arguably better than both Kobe and Rose.
But Kobe and Rose are in LA and Chicago, one of the big markets, and the media doesn't want to piss off people in LA or Chicago. But they are not afraid to piss on the Heat. In fact, they will rip on the Heat as much as they want.
Wade and LeBron are equally important imo, LeBron might have more impressive stats, but I think Wade is the heart of the team. Real Heat Fans will know, when push comes to shove, it's Wade that will come through in the end.
[QUOTE=Go Getter]MFer with all the Rose hate you spew(ed), and the INSANE shit you said about him/the Bulls this summer you should just stfu and log off--right now.[/QUOTE]
Who was right about Boozer? :cheers: :pimp: