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:wtf: [QUOTE=Toizumi]Childress in the NBA started 44 games in his rookie season, but only 23 games in his following 3 years with the Hawks (including 0 in his last season before he left). He also never started in a playoff game (only played 7 playoff games.)... they only made the playoffs once when he was on the Hawks :confusedshrug: Get your facts straight.
He didnt work out in the NBA, so he went to Greece.. (got a 20$ contract) where he became an all star...
Childress' style of play really didn't fit in with Euroball. I saw the same when Orien Greene came over to play for Amsterdam. He was easily the most talented/gifted player on the squad, but he played a different type of ball.
13 NBA starts (in 167 games), averaging 12 MPG. NBA scrub. In Europe, he didn't work out... not because he didnt have the talent, but because he didnt fit in. His coach said: "Von Wafer had a totally different philosophy than ours and could not adapt to ours. If someone is not up for it even to try, then he better stop doing it altogether". Same problem with Childress pretty much..
Guys have more talent, but play a different game.
18 NBA starts, 379 games played.. 15.7 MPG. No playoff starts, ever. Averaged just 14MPG in the playoffs. Goes to Greece - [B]Makes All star.[/B], eventhough he doesnt fit in
Started about half of the games he played in in the NBA and was a decent roleplayer, just like he was in Moscow, Turkey and Croatia.. :confusedshrug: And he's a euro btw
Started 25 out of the 119 games he played - all for none playoff/horrible teams. Has some talent, but is always out of shape.. No team in the NBA wants him.. [B]Total NBA scrub. Goes to Turkey and becomes a roleplayer on a championship winning team[/B] :hammerhead:
Started just 25 NBA games (317 played). Played in 18 playoff games (just 12.4 MPG). Decent bench player in the NBA, just like he is now in Turkey :confusedshrug: Played some pretty good ball in Moscow too.
They were scrubs, bench players on none playoff teams and become roleplayers/starters/allstars in Europe!!
Bring em!
[SIZE="5"][B][U]owned?![/U][/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rowe]Why woud they sign Spanoulis?
He already came over to the NBA before and hated the thought of ever being a backup. Its the same situation with Navarro & Jasikevicious too. They are so used to being "stars" in Europe that their egos cant permit them to being a minimal credited contributor off the bench.[/QUOTE]
Navarro actually lost money to play for Memphis (had to pay his buyout clause), and then the team decided to rebuild, trading Gasol. Add to that his family not being happy in the USA (if they ever went there), and then to be that fast to call his ego the reason for him leaving.
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[QUOTE=Toizumi]Childress in the NBA started 44 games in his rookie season, but only 23 games in his following 3 years with the Hawks (including 0 in his last season before he left). He also never started in a playoff game (only played 7 playoff games.)... they only made the playoffs once when he was on the Hawks :confusedshrug: Get your facts straight.
He didnt work out in the NBA, so he went to Greece.. (got a 20$ contract) where he became an all star...
Childress' style of play really didn't fit in with Euroball. I saw the same when Orien Greene came over to play for Amsterdam. He was easily the most talented/gifted player on the squad, but he played a different type of ball.
13 NBA starts (in 167 games), averaging 12 MPG. NBA scrub. In Europe, he didn't work out... not because he didnt have the talent, but because he didnt fit in. His coach said: "Von Wafer had a totally different philosophy than ours and could not adapt to ours. If someone is not up for it even to try, then he better stop doing it altogether". Same problem with Childress pretty much..
Guys have more talent, but play a different game.
18 NBA starts, 379 games played.. 15.7 MPG. No playoff starts, ever. Averaged just 14MPG in the playoffs. Goes to Greece - [B]Makes All star.[/B], eventhough he doesnt fit in
Started about half of the games he played in in the NBA and was a decent roleplayer, just like he was in Moscow, Turkey and Croatia.. :confusedshrug: And he's a euro btw
Started 25 out of the 119 games he played - all for none playoff/horrible teams. Has some talent, but is always out of shape.. No team in the NBA wants him.. [B]Total NBA scrub. Goes to Turkey and becomes a roleplayer on a championship winning team[/B] :hammerhead:
Started just 25 NBA games (317 played). Played in 18 playoff games (just 12.4 MPG). Decent bench player in the NBA, just like he is now in Turkey :confusedshrug: Played some pretty good ball in Moscow too.
They were scrubs, bench players on none playoff teams and become roleplayers/starters/allstars in Europe!!
Bring em!
owned?![/QUOTE]
I said 6th men and starters. SIXTH MEN and starters.
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[QUOTE=chains5000]Navarro actually lost money to play for Memphis (had to pay his buyout clause), and then the team decided to rebuild, trading Gasol. Add to that his family not being happy in the USA (if they ever went there), and then to be that fast to call his ego the reason for him leaving.[/QUOTE]
Why are you talking about facts here? These American NBA only fans just live in their delusional fairy tale land. They won't believe anything factual, just their fake and imaginary made up nonsense.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]I said 6th men and starters. SIXTH MEN and starters.[/QUOTE]
That's your only response?
More like - 1 player who was a 6th man/roleplayer and some other guys who were the 8th/9th guy of the bench and couldnt make an NBA team so they went to Europe, where they became starters/roleplayers and/or all stars.
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[QUOTE=chains5000]Navarro actually lost money to play for Memphis (had to pay his buyout clause), and then the team decided to rebuild, trading Gasol. Add to that his family not being happy in the USA (if they ever went there), and then to be that fast to call his ego the reason for him leaving.[/QUOTE]
Navarro would've been a great NBA player. A 6th man/roleplayer, who could give any team a scoring boost. The situation for him in Europe was better and his decision made sense. I think he fits the European type game better, so good for him. He's definitely got NBA talent :applause:
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Why are you talking about facts here? [B]These American NBA only fans just live in their delusional fairy tale land. They won't believe anything factual, just their fake and imaginary made up nonsense.[/B][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/irony.jpg[/IMG]
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Spanoulis is overated player like he showed yest where he got schooled by Calathes and he would suck in NBA like he did first time.
And to somebody who was responding to this retard,giricek in CSKA and in Cibona was a star, he went in NBA as at that moment best guard in Europe,later in turkey he was injured and at the end of his career which he ended this season after another injury,and May is more of a bench warmer in Galatasaray, 4th big in rotation and is still with the club only beacuse Turkcan got injured, back in february he was on his way out beacuse he absloutly sucks
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]You idiot. Every single player I listed was a 6th man or starter in the NBA.[/quote]
Von Wafer
8th player in rotation in 12008-2009 with Houston. Not a 6th man, nor a starter (11 games).
Jannero Pargo
6th man, started 5 games with NO before going to Europe.
Gordon Giricek
10th man, started 0 games with the Ssuns before goine to Europe. Not a 6th man, nor a starter (11 games).
Sean May
Became an unrestricted FA when Charlotte declined to make him an offer (he spent most of the last season with them on the injured list after being deemed physically unfit to play, meaning he was/is a fat ****). The year after he played 331 minutes in 37 games for the Kings, the 14th most for the team that year. He started 4 games. The year before leaving for Europe he signed with the Nets but broke his foot a week after signing and was released. Not a 6th man, nor a starter (11 games).
Bostjan Nachbar
was sixth man for the Nets. Played sicth most minutes but started only once.
[quote]"never seen an NBA star go to Europe in his prime"......
BULL SHIT
Wilkins and Radja did and neither one "dominated" anything. They were among the very best players, but they sure the hell were nothing remotely resembling "dominant".
You don't know anything about basketball.[/QUOTE]
[B]Wilkins[/B] was clearly on his way down when he signed with Panathinaikos. He went from being a 26+pts/game scorer to just 17 with the Celtics. He was close to 37 years old the year he signed in Greece. That's not his prime. However, in Europe he dominated. He led Panathinaikos to a championship, averaged 20 pts and over 7 rebounds, he was named the Finals MVP, won the cup and was named the MVP once again. That's damn close to dominating.
Dino [B]Radja[/B] was 32 when he returned to Europe. He was also past his prime, seeing as he failed his physical after being traded to Philly. Far from being in his 'prime'.
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[QUOTE=kaktus14]Spanoulis is overated player like he showed yest where he got schooled by Calathes and he would suck in NBA like he did first time.
And to somebody who was responding to this retard,giricek in CSKA and in Cibona was a star, he went in NBA as at that moment best guard in Europe,later in turkey he was injured and at the end of his career which he ended this season after another injury,and May is more of a bench warmer in Galatasaray, 4th big in rotation and is still with the club only beacuse Turkcan got injured, back in february he was on his way out beacuse he absloutly sucks[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. I knew about Giricek.. but I had no clue how May was doing honestly :oldlol: I just checked the team's depth chard and he was listed as the 2nd PF.. he actually got some minutes as well, so I figured I could use that to prove Lakas wrong :D
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[QUOTE=Toizumi]That's your only response?
More like - 1 player who was a 6th man/roleplayer and some other guys who were the 8th/9th guy of the bench and couldnt make an NBA team so they went to Europe, where they became starters/roleplayers and/or all stars.[/QUOTE]
Wrong.
Every single one of them were starters or 6th men on NBA teams, usually playoff teams.
Every single one of them had contract offers from NBA teams. Every single one of them became scrubs in Euroleague.
And there are plenty other such examples.
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[QUOTE=Chapallaz]Von Wafer
8th player in rotation in 12008-2009 with Houston. Not a 6th man, nor a starter (11 games).
Jannero Pargo
6th man, started 5 games with NO before going to Europe.
Gordon Giricek
10th man, started 0 games with the Ssuns before goine to Europe. Not a 6th man, nor a starter (11 games).
Sean May
Became an unrestricted FA when Charlotte declined to make him an offer (he spent most of the last season with them on the injured list after being deemed physically unfit to play, meaning he was/is a fat ****). The year after he played 331 minutes in 37 games for the Kings, the 14th most for the team that year. He started 4 games. The year before leaving for Europe he signed with the Nets but broke his foot a week after signing and was released. Not a 6th man, nor a starter (11 games).
Bostjan Nachbar
was sixth man for the Nets. Played sicth most minutes but started only once.
[B]Wilkins[/B] was clearly on his way down when he signed with Panathinaikos. He went from being a 26+pts/game scorer to just 17 with the Celtics. He was close to 37 years old the year he signed in Greece. That's not his prime. However, in Europe he dominated. He led Panathinaikos to a championship, averaged 20 pts and over 7 rebounds, he was named the Finals MVP, won the cup and was named the MVP once again. That's damn close to dominating.
Dino [B]Radja[/B] was 32 when he returned to Europe. He was also past his prime, seeing as he failed his physical after being traded to Philly. Far from being in his 'prime'.[/QUOTE]
Radja averaged in NBA 15/7, 17/9, [B]20/10[/B] and 14/8 (17/8 career) before going to Europe.
[B]Wilkins averaged 18 in the NBA before and after going to Europe[/B] and 20 in Europe in between that.
Wilkins did not "dominate" crap at Panathinaikos. He played in a super team with other stars like Alvertis, Ekonomou, Vrankovic, Giannakis and was just one of many in the team. He sure the hell was not "dominant". He replaced Galis on the team, the guy that averaged 37 points a game and Wilkins, Galis' replacement averaged 20.
Wow. I learn something new every day in this forum. According to American NBA fans here. Nick Galis "sucked" and could "never play in the NBA", and Wilkins "dominated in Europe".
Never mind that Wilkins averaged 20 a game and the guy he replaced, Galis, averaged 37 a game before him. The basketball knowledge of NBA only fans is truly astonishing.
Wilkins sure "dominated" when he struggled to score against Georgios Sigalas and Olympiacos kicked his and Panathinaikos' ass in the Greek Championship. That was true "domination" as he could not handle the defense of Sigalas and his team lost the Greek playoff series.
Keep up the factual contributions with your twisted and distorted posts that completely distort and manipulate the truth.
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[QUOTE=kaktus14]Spanoulis is overated player like he showed yest where he got schooled by Calathes and he would suck in NBA like he did first time.
And to somebody who was responding to this retard,giricek in CSKA and in Cibona was a star, he went in NBA as at that moment best guard in Europe,later in turkey he was injured and at the end of his career which he ended this season after another injury,and May is more of a bench warmer in Galatasaray, 4th big in rotation and is still with the club only beacuse Turkcan got injured, back in february he was on his way out beacuse he absloutly sucks[/QUOTE]
Giricek was a starter on NBA playoff teams and a scrub in Euroleague after that.
Spanoulis scored 18 points, had 5 assists, and hit two half court three pointers at the buzzer.........yeah, he sure played like crap. And news flash genius, Spanoulis was not guarding Calathes. Spanoulis was guarding Sato and Tepic, who played like total shit against his defense.
Oh and yeah guess who was guarding Spanoulis and let him get 18 points and 5 assists? Nick Calathes. The same Nick Calathes that guarded Navarro during the Euroleague playoffs and shut him down.
That same Nick Calathes tried to guard Spanoulis and got his ass handed to him.
May does not even play on Galatasary. The mere fact that you don't even know which team May plays on is pretty much proof that you are just trolling here.
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No hate but sometimes our mods sucks. I've had threads removed because the mods decide they are provoking, etc. This person though, posts MADE UP news (100%, it's a rumor he created in his mind) for the purpose of being able to argue the NBA sucks, and it's clear he's Lakas, who was banned among other things for spouting nonsense about people being racist. YET the thread remains on and on. And soon he'll start calling people xenophobic and racists for not liking Euroleague, and everyone can say stupid shit. Great thread. Let's sticky it while we are at it.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Wrong.
Every single one of them were starters or [B]6th men on NBA teams[/B], usually playoff teams.
Every single one of them had contract offers from NBA teams. Every single one of them became scrubs in Euroleague.
And there are plenty other such examples.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=chains5000][IMG]http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/irony.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
You are a fan boy of a team that has a Greek GM, a Greek head coach, a starting center that is Greek, a 6th man (and best scorer and shooter on the team) that is Greek, and has the best prospect/talent in the entire club that is also a Greek.
That has been trying to secure another young Greek talent.
This club that you are a fan boy of is now in the ACB Finals, might win the ACB championship, and has qualified for the Euroleague next season because of the GREEK basketball system.
And yet, all you do is talk endless crap about anything related to Greek basketball. You are such a hypocritical douche bag. Your own club would not be jack squat without all the Greeks in it.
Unlike these American NBA only fans that are ignorant and don't know any better, because they are xenophobic, cocky, arrogant, and have never in their entire lives seen even a single European basketball game...........
you have no excuse for your arrogant and douche like attitude. Your own club is dominated by Greeks and without them would not be crap. There is no excuse for your BS. Grow up.
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[QUOTE=colorz][IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/312g4qp.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He was a starter in the NBA.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]He was a starter in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
I remember those 25 games he started for the Bobcats helping lead them to playoffs...
wait what
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]You are a fan boy of a team that has a Greek GM, a Greek head coach, a starting center that is Greek, a 6th man (and best scorer and shooter on the team) that is Greek, and has the best prospect/talent in the entire club that is also a Greek.
That has been trying to secure another young Greek talent.
This club that you are a fan boy of is now in the ACB Finals, might win the ACB championship, and has qualified for the Euroleague next season because of the GREEK basketball system.
And yet, all you do is talk endless crap about anything related to Greek basketball. You are such a hypocritical douche bag. Your own club would not be jack squat without all the Greeks in it.
Unlike these American NBA only fans that are ignorant and don't know any better, because they are xenophobic, cocky, arrogant, and have never in their entire lives seen even a single European basketball game...........
you have no excuse for your arrogant and douche like attitude. Your own club is dominated by Greeks and without them would not be crap. There is no excuse for your BS. Grow up.[/QUOTE]
Meanwhile, Greece is turning out to be the biggest shithole in Europe and has the rest of the EU paying up for the mess and corruption going on there. Be proud.
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Vasswho? Sounds like a bad foot fungus. No thanks, keep that disease overseas.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]The word in Greece is that after the Finals and the upcoming NBA lockout, Jason Kidd will retire and the Dallas Mavericks want to sign Vassilis Spanoulis to replace him.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Zgvr4ATvE[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwbDfXoxsc[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5pKzHWgkcY[/url][/QUOTE]
nolinksyo
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Mavs gonna get her ? :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=niko]No hate but sometimes our mods sucks. I've had threads removed because the mods decide they are provoking, etc. This person though, posts MADE UP news (100%, it's a rumor he created in his mind) for the purpose of being able to argue the NBA sucks, and it's clear he's Lakas, who was banned among other things for spouting nonsense about people being racist. YET the thread remains on and on. And soon he'll start calling people xenophobic and racists for not liking Euroleague, and everyone can say stupid shit. Great thread. Let's sticky it while we are at it.[/QUOTE]
Right. Because when numerous posters make up lies no one has the right to call them on it. It is a LIE that any American NBA player goes to Europe and "dominates". It is total fiction and is a LIE.
It is also a LIE that all the best European players go to the NBA. A lie. It is a lie that there are no players in Europe that can play in the NBA or that are better than NBA players. A lie.
It is a lie that no sucky Euroleague players became good in the NBA. It is a lie that no good NBA players became scrubs in Euroleague.
You can't keep posting all these lies and think that no one will cal you on it. You get pissed off just if someone exposes lies that you and others are posting and when they get exposed you are so pissed off and then you are angry that the threads are not deleted because they expose the lies of you and others.
In addition to that, you falsely claim that the people exposing your lies are the ones "lying" and "making things up". You can never dispute anything, you can never bring any actual facts, you can never actually prove one thing that you say.
All you can do is repeat the same BS nonsense over and over like, "if any player in Europe was good he would be in the NBA", "all the best European players come to the NBA", "every American scrub dominates in Europe", and any other such delusional and imaginary BS that you can make up out of your own imagination.
When it is proven with true facts to you that this is wrong, you resort to childishk, rude, and immature baiting, flaiming, and name calling. You also respond with posts that are clearly xenophobic at the least, and seem to even be racist.
"No Euros are athletic." "No one in Europe can jump". "Euros are all soft, non-athletic, short, weak, white stiffs". "Only Americans can play basketball." "Only black guys can play basketball." "White Euros can't hand with blacks." "Blacks are physically and athletically and genetically superior to whites." Etc.
When someone tells you to stop making such offensive and insulting posts you then get your panties in a big tight wad and start claiming that you are being victimized. "Oh no mods he said I am xenophobic and I am making racist comments." "OMG mods this dude is anti-American." "Oh noes, mods this guy hates blacks."
When you are called out on your racist BS, you reply with something you think is clever apparently, but I assure you that is most certainly is NOT. You say, "hey I'm a white guy, so why would I be racist against whites."
Reading out of the how to get away with racism for racists idiot's guide 101 book is not being in the least bit clever. "Whites are genetically, physically, and athletically inferior to blacks. But hey, I'm a white guy so you can't call me a racist."
Yeah, brilliant. You are a racist and a retard.
Now what you do is you will send complaints about these posts and say to the mods, "see look at all this bashing and racism." "Bashing the NBA, bashing Americans, etc." "America hater."
You will of course send the complaints to a mod that you know also believes complete fairy tale nonsense that any American scrub "dominates" in Europe and all the best European players are in the NBA and all that other ridiculous BS.
Another like-minded "basketball expert" such as yourself that has never seen a game in Europe and that actually thinks the NBA equates to "world basketball."
If you manage to get the thread deleted you will then brag and make a bunch of rude and personally insulted posts directed towards me, and once again post a bunch of ignorant, untrue lies, and a bunch of extremely thinly veiled racism and xenophobia. All the while crying like a little girl to the mods if what you are doing is pointed out.
Saying that people should be banned for racism and accusing others of being racist. Then you should be banned. You falsely accuse me of hating Americans and the USA. A LIE. You constantly make incredibly blatant racist comments here against white people and people of the European race.
You then say, "hey I ain't no racist cuz I'm like all white man", when complaints are made about your openly racist comments against white people.
You will then say, this thread is derailed, after YOU derailed it. I am done with you, permanently. Permanent ignore list. End of story.
Your antics and your schtick are not in the least slightest bit amusing. And you are not in any way, shape, or form the least bit intelligent, worldly, knowledgeable, or educated.
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[URL="http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170729"]"John" Scheyer via No Links Yo[/URL]
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[QUOTE=colorz]I remember those 25 games he started for the Bobcats helping lead them to playoffs...
wait what[/QUOTE]
He started 25 games in the NBA and in the Euroleague he is an epic scrub.
wait what
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[QUOTE=kaktus14]Spanoulis is overated player like he showed yest where he got schooled by Calathes and he would suck in NBA like he did first time.
And to somebody who was responding to this retard,giricek in CSKA and in Cibona was a star, he went in NBA as at that moment best guard in Europe,later in turkey he was injured and at the end of his career which he ended this season after another injury,and May is more of a bench warmer in Galatasaray, 4th big in rotation and is still with the club only beacuse Turkcan got injured, back in february he was on his way out beacuse he absloutly sucks[/QUOTE]
May plays for Fenderbahce and just had 12 points in the first game of the finals...
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]He was a starter in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
He started 25 of 119 NBA games. He started 21% of his brief NBA career.
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[QUOTE=Chapallaz]Meanwhile, Greece is turning out to be the biggest shithole in Europe and has the rest of the EU paying up for the mess and corruption going on there. Be proud.[/QUOTE]
Greece debt was $300 billion ($800 billion with interest) all paid off by Germany.
Greece debt is now again at $150 billion ($450 billion with interest) and will soon be paid off again.
All the debts that have been and are paid off are being covered by Greek islands and territories being sold to Germany and German people.
USA = $14.5 trillion treasury debt ($203 trillion with interest)
USA = $70 trillion debt in total government obligations (with interest some estimates are as high as $800 trillion).
USA is not paying their debt and no one else is helping them with it. USA is not able to sell assets to cover their debt, unlike Greece.
Greece's solution to cover debts is to sell assets.
USA's solution to cover debts is to start illegal preemptive wars to boost manufacturing, wall street, and corporate profits, and to raid other nations. Even though the cost outweighs the benefit and even though they cut taxes on the richest of the rich at the same time.
USA's last resort is to constantly threaten, bully, and intimidate any country that holds US debt or that wants to dump the incredibly weak US dollar.
US standard of living is very low compared to other western nations. As is the education level. US is only western nation without free universal healthcare.
And yet, you have more debt than every other nation on the planet combined. USA has the most corrupt government, economy, educational system, military, press, media, religious system, sports system, etc. in the history of the world. Be proud.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Greece debt was $300 billion ($800 billion with interest) all paid off by Germany.
Greece debt is now again at $150 billion ($450 billion with interest) and will soon be paid off again.
All the debts that have been and are paid off are being covered by Greek islands and territories being sold to Germany and German people.
USA = $14.5 billion treasury debt ($203 trillion with interest)
USA = $70 billion debt in total government obligations (with interest some estimates are as high as $800 trillion).
USA is not paying their debt and no one else is helping them with it. USA is not able to sell assets to cover their debt, unlike Greece.
Greece's solution to cover debts is to sell assets.
USA's solution to cover debts is to start illegal preemptive wars to boost manufacturing, wall street, and corporate profits, and to raid other nations. Even though the cost outweighs the benefit and even though they cut taxes on the richest of the rich at the same time.
USA's last resort is to constantly threaten, bully, and intimidate any country that holds US debt or that wants to dump the incredibly weak US dollar.
US standard of living is very low compared to other western nations. As is the education level. US is only western nation without free universal healthcare.
And yet, you have more debt than every other nation on the planet combined. USA has the most corrupt government, economy, educational system, military, press, media, religious system, sports system, etc. in the history of the world. Be proud.[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked it was not only Germany, but also the Netherlands, among other, paying for that corrupt piece of shit country's debt. Also, the USA is not in Europe, so why would I care? I'm not from the USA, liar.
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You REALLY hate the USA, don't you? :oldlol: Blind hate. Anybody who disagrees with you must be from the US.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=fatboy11]He started 25 of 119 NBA games. He started 21% of his brief NBA career.[/QUOTE]
And he is a huge scrub in Euroleague.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=Chapallaz]You REALLY hate the USA, don't you? :oldlol: Blind hate. Anybody who disagrees with you must be from the US.[/QUOTE]
I stated facts and truth about the USA. The problem is that people like you can't handle facts and truth. It has nothing to do with people like me "hating it". The problem is people like you defending it, no matter what it does.
Welcome to ignore. This thread will not be derailed by trolls like you.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Right. Because when numerous posters make up lies no one has the right to call them on it. It is a LIE that any American NBA player goes to Europe and "dominates". It is total fiction and is a LIE.
It is also a LIE that all the best European players go to the NBA. A lie. It is a lie that there are no players in Europe that can play in the NBA or that are better than NBA players. A lie.
It is a lie that no sucky Euroleague players became good in the NBA. It is a lie that no good NBA players became scrubs in Euroleague.
You can't keep posting all these lies and think that no one will cal you on it. You get pissed off just if someone exposes lies that you and others are posting and when they get exposed you are so pissed off and then you are angry that the threads are not deleted because they expose the lies of you and others.
In addition to that, you falsely claim that the people exposing your lies are the ones "lying" and "making things up". You can never dispute anything, you can never bring any actual facts, you can never actually prove one thing that you say.
All you can do is repeat the same BS nonsense over and over like, "if any player in Europe was good he would be in the NBA", "all the best European players come to the NBA", "every American scrub dominates in Europe", and any other such delusional and imaginary BS that you can make up out of your own imagination.
When it is proven with true facts to you that this is wrong, you resort to childishk, rude, and immature baiting, flaiming, and name calling. You also respond with posts that are clearly xenophobic at the least, and seem to even be racist.
"No Euros are athletic." "No one in Europe can jump". "Euros are all soft, non-athletic, short, weak, white stiffs". "Only Americans can play basketball." "Only black guys can play basketball." "White Euros can't hand with blacks." "Blacks are physically and athletically and genetically superior to whites." Etc.
When someone tells you to stop making such offensive and insulting posts you then get your panties in a big tight wad and start claiming that you are being victimized. "Oh no mods he said I am xenophobic and I am making racist comments." "OMG mods this dude is anti-American." "Oh noes, mods this guy hates blacks."
When you are called out on your racist BS, you reply with something you think is clever apparently, but I assure you that is most certainly is NOT. You say, "hey I'm a white guy, so why would I be racist against whites."
Reading out of the how to get away with racism for racists idiot's guide 101 book is not being in the least bit clever. "Whites are genetically, physically, and athletically inferior to blacks. But hey, I'm a white guy so you can't call me a racist."
Yeah, brilliant. You are a racist and a retard.
Now what you do is you will send complaints about these posts and say to the mods, "see look at all this bashing and racism." "Bashing the NBA, bashing Americans, etc." "America hater."
You will of course send the complaints to a mod that you know also believes complete fairy tale nonsense that any American scrub "dominates" in Europe and all the best European players are in the NBA and all that other ridiculous BS.
Another like-minded "basketball expert" such as yourself that has never seen a game in Europe and that actually thinks the NBA equates to "world basketball."
If you manage to get the thread deleted you will then brag and make a bunch of rude and personally insulted posts directed towards me, and once again post a bunch of ignorant, untrue lies, and a bunch of extremely thinly veiled racism and xenophobia. All the while crying like a little girl to the mods if what you are doing is pointed out.
Saying that people should be banned for racism and accusing others of being racist. Then you should be banned. You falsely accuse me of hating Americans and the USA. A LIE. You constantly make incredibly blatant racist comments here against white people and people of the European race.
You then say, "hey I ain't no racist cuz I'm like all white man", when complaints are made about your openly racist comments against white people.
You will then say, this thread is derailed, after YOU derailed it. I am done with you, permanently. Permanent ignore list. End of story.
Your antics and your schtick are not in the least slightest bit amusing. And you are not in any way, shape, or form the least bit intelligent, worldly, knowledgeable, or educated.[/QUOTE]
If this was a movie you would have yelled OF COURSE I AM LAKAS! at the end of this diatribe. I schooled you, old school good guy style. :D Forced you to reveal your true identity.
and i don't know euroleague but i do know Spanoulis sucked to a level in the NBA that a team with championship aspirations would not seek to choose to replace their great (albeit old) PG with his crappy self.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=niko][B]i don't know euroleague [/B]but i do know Spanoulis sucked to a level in the NBA that a team with championship aspirations would not seek to choose to replace their great (albeit old) PG with his crappy self.[/QUOTE]
"i don't know euroleague" yet you feel justified to endlessly and constantly talk here like you are an expert on it and to accuse anyone that actually watches it of being a troll and a liar.
Nice Freudian slip.
And Spanoulis is much better than Kidd is.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
This Euroleague guy is a ****n skinhead who always provokes others and then victimizes himself. I really wanna know what country in Europe is he from!
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
This whole thread is comical. There should be a reprimand for people who are continually wrong when they report a "rumor".
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=Euroleague]"i don't know euroleague" yet you feel justified to endlessly and constantly talk here like you are an expert on it and to accuse anyone that actually watches it of being a troll and a liar.
Nice Freudian slip.
[B]And Spanoulis is much better than Kidd is[/B].[/QUOTE]
Maybe a better human being. But not a better basketball player. No way.
I'm on your banned list btw, stop talking to me. I'm banned goddamnit.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
[QUOTE=Euroleague]And he is a huge scrub in Euroleague.[/QUOTE]
As he turned out to be in the NBA.....
He's not NBA-caliber anymore so the Euroleague has taken him on.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
I can't create a gif so...
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Want Vassilis Spanoulis To Replace Jason Kidd
Look at this little Greek **** putting me on ignore because he feels like I'm trolling. Dude your whole ****ing country is trolling Europe. And we ain't putting your lazy broke asses on ignore. No we're helping your sorry ass out with millions, yet you're calling me a rascist? Idiot.
[url]http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/06/thousands-of-dead-greeks-drew-pensions[/url]
Pathetic little **** you are.