[QUOTE=Al Thornton]clippersfan you're an embarrassment to sports spectating and humanity in general.[/QUOTE]
this is what every clippers fan on the board has always said about you.
i guess the torch has been passed.
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[QUOTE=Al Thornton]clippersfan you're an embarrassment to sports spectating and humanity in general.[/QUOTE]
this is what every clippers fan on the board has always said about you.
i guess the torch has been passed.
i dont get it...why is he laughing? :lol
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]:roll:. Besides Derrick Williams... Wolves giving us nonstop fail in this draft. No offense Wolves fans but WTF is Kahn thinking? Brad Miller....[/QUOTE]
putting overall records aside since they both are crap...i wouldnt trade minnys roster for the clippers roster.
cool thread tho bro.
[QUOTE=FireMcFailPlease]putting overall records aside since they both are crap...i wouldnt trade minnys roster for the clippers roster.
cool thread tho bro.[/QUOTE]
32 wins vs 17. Way to conveniently say records aside. LOL on anyone in the league that wouldn't trade Wolves roster for Clippers one. You don't have a franchise player... we have 2.
[QUOTE=FourthTenor]this is what every clippers fan on the board has always said about you.
i guess the torch has been passed.[/QUOTE]
He has yet to ever saying anything pro Clipper in my time here. It's always how our players suck or are overrated. Oh and how much he hates me.
Flynn would have gotten no court time and had zero trade value, while Miller adds depth and is a great locker room guy. Minny needs veteran leaders.
New roster:
PG: Ridnour/ Rubio/ Lee
SG: Johnson/ Webster/ Ellington
SF: Beasley/ Williams/ Hayward
PF: Love/ Randolph/ Tolliver
CT: Milcic/ Miller/ Pekovic
Looking solid. Williams could be the 6th man of the year
[QUOTE=Al Thornton]clippersfan you're an embarrassment to sports spectating and humanity in general.[/QUOTE]
This is such an out-of-left-field and WTF statement that I'm laughing my as$ off. Seriously, what the hell brought this on?
You're probably just a T-Wolves fan who's pissed that the triangle is disappearing. Sorry bro. I'll miss it, too.
[QUOTE=FireMcFailPlease]putting overall records aside since they both are crap...i wouldnt trade minnys roster for the clippers roster.
cool thread tho bro.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm :facepalm :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]32 wins vs 17. Way to conveniently say records aside. LOL on anyone in the league that wouldn't trade Wolves roster for Clippers one. You don't have a franchise player... we have 2.[/QUOTE]
Who is your second franchise player?
I hope you don't say Gordon because I don't see him as being any better than Love or Beasley.
Clippersfan is just letting us know hes going to troll the shit out of this site and PSD for the next year.
The good thing about karma is that it always comes back to bite the LA Clippers in the ass.
Im not wishing a major injury on Eric Gordon or Blake Griffin. But that is in the hands of the basketball Gods. :pimp:
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Just curious.. how do we know they are quality when they haven't stepped on the court yet?[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
we don't known anything about the American players either you dingbat.
we won't know if ANY of the picks made today were good for several years.
you just shot your own OP down with this.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]6.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.6 apg and 1.6 spg. 31 percent shooting from the field, 22 percent from deep last season. Yup sounds like a legit PG in the NBA to put the hopes of your franchise on.[/QUOTE]
oh snap! Somebody should have told the Bucks about Brandon Jennings sucking in Europe before they drafted him! Now they are stuck with a complete bum!
[QUOTE]In the Italian Lega A 2008-09 season, Jennings averaged in 27 games, 5.5 points, 1.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, and 1.5 steals in 17.0 minutes per game. He shot 35.1 percent from the field and 20.7 percent from 3 point range in Lega A play. In 16 Euroleague games, Jennings averaged 7.6 points, 1.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, and 1.2 steals in 19.6 minutes per game. In the Euroleague he shot 38.7 percent from the field and 26.8 percent from 3 point range.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Jennings#Italian_career"]link[/URL]
[URL="http://web.legabasket.it/player/?id=JEN-BRA-89&year=2008&team=1161"]Brandon Jennings Italian League profile and stats[/URL]
[URL="http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?gamecode=166&pcode=001219"]Euroleague.net Brandon Jennings Official Player Profile[/URL]
[QUOTE=kentatm]oh snap! Somebody should have told the Bucks about Brandon Jennings sucking in Europe before they drafted him! Now they are stuck with a complete bum!
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Jennings#Italian_career"]link[/URL]
[URL="http://web.legabasket.it/player/?id=JEN-BRA-89&year=2008&team=1161"]Brandon Jennings Italian League profile and stats[/URL]
[URL="http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?gamecode=166&pcode=001219"]Euroleague.net Brandon Jennings Official Player Profile[/URL][/QUOTE]
Jennings was also a much better player than Rubio ever was. He was one of the most recruited and dominant HS players ever. Bit different. I never here once said he CAN'T be good. I said I doubt he will be. The fact that you had to reach and give me just a single example is funny though. My point is Rubio is WAY overhyped for a guy who pus*ied out of playing in the NBA the last 2 seasons and admitted flat out that he wasn't ready. People act like he's the next coming of Nash/Stockton.
[QUOTE=Skywalker]Rubio
johnson
williams
beasley
love
suck
a
fat
dix[/QUOTE]
Pretty decent really.
[QUOTE=B-Easy8]Who is your second franchise player?
I hope you don't say Gordon because I don't see him as being any better than Love or Beasley.[/QUOTE]
Eric Gordon proved he could carry the team and for a period of about 2 months he was actually our best player, not Blake Griffin. At the time he was putting up 24.3 ppg, 3 rpg, 4.5 apg which was right before his serious wrist injury. Please never again say Beasley is anywhere close to the level of player of Eric Gordon.
Love doesn't have the mentality to carry a team... or to be a franchise player. Mostly everyone including Wolves fans know this. Beasley is more likely to emerge as the leader of that team than Love.
Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon are both elite cornerstones. There isn't a single better inside/out combo in the NBA.
they did dumb shit not drafting whay they needed , a center in Kanter
good luck with oldman miller now
but hey its the clippers u never know they may trade the pick ...
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Eric Gordon proved he could carry the team and for a period of about 2 months he was actually our best player, not Blake Griffin. At the time he was putting up 24.3 ppg, 3 rpg, 4.5 apg which was right before his serious wrist injury. Please never again say Beasley is anywhere close to the level of player of Eric Gordon.
Love doesn't have the mentality to carry a team... or to be a franchise player. Mostly everyone including Wolves fans know this. Beasley is more likely to emerge as the leader of that team than Love.
Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon are both elite cornerstones. [B]There isn't a single better inside/out combo in the NBA[/B].[/QUOTE]
You need to stop posting your homerism is far too high, the Clippers are not that good.
Gasol/Kobe and Melo/Amare are both 10 times better than your duo.
If they were the best inside out duo in the NBA how come they didn't win more games?
Face it they put up empty stats.
[QUOTE=B-Easy8]You need to stop posting your homerism is far too high, the Clippers are not that good.
Gasol/Kobe and Melo/Amare are both 10 times better than your duo.
If they were the best inside out duo in the NBA how come they didn't win more games?
Face it they put up empty stats.[/QUOTE]
1. The team was full of rookies and unexperienced players
2. Eric Gordon was injured for a significant amount of time (right when things started to turn around).
3. Clippers are in the WEST. Knicks are in the EAST.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86][B]Jennings was also a much better player than Rubio ever was[/B]. He was one of the most recruited and dominant HS players ever. Bit different. I never here once said he CAN'T be good. I said I doubt he will be. The fact that you had to reach and give me just a single example is funny though. My point is Rubio is WAY overhyped for a guy who pus*ied out of playing in the NBA the last 2 seasons and admitted flat out that he wasn't ready. People act like he's the next coming of Nash/Stockton.[/QUOTE]
What? How do you figure that? Rubio has some of the most dominant performances I've seen in international youth basketball over here.
Don't overestimate HS basketball.
I bet Jennings doesn't step into the ACB at 14 years old, no way he does that.
[QUOTE=kentatm]oh snap! Somebody should have told the Bucks about Brandon Jennings sucking in Europe before they drafted him! Now they are stuck with a complete bum![/QUOTE]
Bad sarcasm since he is a bum.
They're never going to be good. Cap space, future potential, draft picks, players stashed away, etc. are overrated when they are always going to be misused anyways. Who gives a shit you drafted a guy who might be good and come back in a few yrs, to add to a 17 win team. And :oldlol: at thinking Brad Miller's "veteran presence" will mean anything when he's not even good anymore plus had microfracture surgery and is questionable to play at all this season.
So maybe insurance picks up his contract and you can use the money to sign someone else. Kahn is going to blow it anyways, so again who cares?
I pray that you guys start Love and Miller together, when he's healthy anyways.
Brad Miller had microfracture surgery. Dude is done. They absorbed him so they could offload Flynn's contract.
They traded down their 20 pick to 31 and got paid every step of the way.
[QUOTE=B-Easy8]You need to stop posting your homerism is far too high, the Clippers are not that good.
Gasol/Kobe and Melo/Amare are both 10 times better than your duo.
If they were the best inside out duo in the NBA how come they didn't win more games?
Face it they put up empty stats.[/QUOTE]
Wow you're brilliant aren't you. When someone is referring to an inside/out 2 man game it implies a guard and a big. Not 2 forwards. Especially because Carmelo spends a lot of his time in the mid-high post like Amare. Inside/out tandems are ones who have a reliable guard outside to bomb outside jumpers.. and get to the rim.. as well as a big you can dump the ball too and get buckets.
When it comes to combined production especially when Eric Gordon was healthy.... the Clippers were statistically ranked as the 3rd most productive duo after Wade+Lebron and Westbrook+Durant.. neither of which are inside/out combos. So yes.. Eric Gordon+ Blake Griffin= best inside out combo in the NBA. Gasol isn't exactly a deep post threat... where as Blake Griffin was second in the league in points in the paint.
I'm not saying the Clippers are an amazing team. I'm saying you fu**ed up in the draft. You're the one telling me how bad the Clippers are so I'm just telling you how much worse the Wolves are. It would be like me arguing right now that the Clippers are just as good as the Thunder or Grizzlies. I would never say it because it's a flat out lie.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]
I'm not saying the Clippers are an amazing team. I'm saying you fu**ed up in the draft. You're the one telling me how bad the Clippers are so I'm just telling you how much worse the Wolves are. It would be like me arguing right now that the Clippers are just as good as the Thunder or Grizzlies. I would never say it because it's a flat out lie.[/QUOTE]
Could you please tell me what you think the Wolves did wrong in the draft?
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]:roll:. Besides Derrick Williams... Wolves giving us nonstop fail in this draft. No offense Wolves fans but WTF is Kahn thinking? Brad Miller....[/QUOTE]
Oh course someone who never factors financies into the equation or what we actually got is going to say it was a bad move.
This is McHale's **** up, not Kahn's.
Learn the game.
My god, reading through this thread is hilarious.
MCHALE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GIVING THE CLIPPERS OUR PICK NEXT YEAR, NOT KAHN.
[QUOTE=KGMN]Could you please tell me what you think the Wolves did wrong in the draft?[/QUOTE]
they didnt select kanter. who apparently all of a sudden is the rim protecting 7'0 center we've waited all of our lives for.
:roll:
[QUOTE=FireMcFailPlease]they didnt select kanter. who apparently all of a sudden is the rim protecting 7'0 center we've waited all of our lives for.
:roll:[/QUOTE]
Except the problem is, Derrick Williams is much better than Kanter (at least right now). Why take Enes Kanter just because you need a center? There are plenty of centers in the league, and if all else fails, we can play Kevin Love at center with Beas at PF, Williams at SF, and Wes at SG. Derrick Williams is simply too good to just pass on for a positional need.
And if you want a 7'0 rim-protecting center, keep Darko. He's really good at defense, just not so great at offense. Not to mention that Kanter is not at all a good defender (I think), his real strength is offense.
i know, i wanted williams from the get go
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: @ the Wolves fan that said Love and Beasley are better than Eric Gordon.
EG is better than Blake to
[QUOTE=kaiiu]:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: @ the Wolves fan that said Love and Beasley are better than Eric Gordon.
EG is better than Blake to[/QUOTE]
youre comparing 2 forwards to a shooting guard.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=KGMN]Except the problem is, [B]Derrick Williams is much better than Kanter (at least right now)[/B]. Why take Enes Kanter just because you need a center? There are plenty of centers in the league, and if all else fails, we can play Kevin Love at center with Beas at PF, Williams at SF, and Wes at SG. Derrick Williams is simply too good to just pass on for a positional need.
And if you want a 7'0 rim-protecting center, keep Darko. He's really good at defense, just not so great at offense. Not to mention that Kanter is not at all a good defender (I think), his real strength is offense.[/QUOTE]
kanter hasnt played official game for over a year, so where would you know that ?
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]:roll:. Besides Derrick Williams... Wolves giving us nonstop fail in this draft. No offense Wolves fans but WTF is Kahn thinking? Brad Miller....[/QUOTE]
....and with the first pick in the 1998 NBA draft the Los Angeles Clippers select...
NOT Dirk Nowitzki
NOT Paul Pierce
NOT Vince Carter
NOT Antawn Jamison
NOT Rashard Lewis
NOT Mike Bibby
NOT Bonzi Wells
NOT Larry Hughes
NOT Al Harrington
NOT Ricky Davis
NOT Jason Williams
NOT Cuttino Mobley
NOT even Raef LaFrentz, Nazr Mohammed or Rasho Nesterovic....
:bowdown: :bowdown:
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]....and with the first pick in the 1998 NBA draft the Los Angeles Clippers select...
NOT Dirk Nowitzki
NOT Paul Pierce
NOT Vince Carter
NOT Antawn Jamison
NOT Rashard Lewis
NOT Mike Bibby
NOT Bonzi Wells
NOT Larry Hughes
NOT Al Harrington
NOT Ricky Davis
NOT Jason Williams
NOT Cuttino Mobley
NOT even Raef LaFrentz, Nazr Mohammed or Rasho Nesterovic....
:bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]....and with the first pick in the 1998 NBA draft the Los Angeles Clippers select...
NOT Dirk Nowitzki
NOT Paul Pierce
NOT Vince Carter
NOT Antawn Jamison
NOT Rashard Lewis
NOT Mike Bibby
NOT Bonzi Wells
NOT Larry Hughes
NOT Al Harrington
NOT Ricky Davis
NOT Jason Williams
NOT Cuttino Mobley
NOT even Raef LaFrentz, Nazr Mohammed or Rasho Nesterovic....
:bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Okay dude outside of Vince Carter, Pierce and Jamison maybe.... the entire list you put up were either average players, had attitude problems.. or were surprises (like Dirk obviously). Meaning it wasn't that bad. Drafting a legit 7 footer who looked like he could be dominant at the NBA level isn't exactly a rare mistake. Plus... I'm not making fun of the Wolves drafting history. I'm mentioning that they made boneheaded choices this year. I think it's funny they drafted the probable best player in the draft and he's gonna be on the bench all year. Then they kept swapping picks all over the place. I mean if anyone feels Brad Miller>Flynn.. that's on you. You guys got better offensively and worse defensively or at least stayed the same defensively. Given the fact that the Wolves already have solid young pieces they would of been better off drafting for need.
Grabbing a player who immediately fills a hole. Grabbing a player who plays the positions of your 2 best players= bad strategy IMO.
btw. Yall gone stop disrespecting and underrating my ni99a Eric Gordon.
Since you're such a smart guy you should post the entire draft order. Notice how many teams passed up these players?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_NBA_Draft[/url]
[QUOTE=kaiiu]btw. Yall gone stop disrespecting and underrating my ni99a Eric Gordon.[/QUOTE]
Beasley is better than Eric Gordon! :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=alenleomessi]kanter hasnt played official game for over a year, so where would you know that ?[/QUOTE]
I guess that may be part of the reason I believe Kanter is not as good as Williams, the fact that he hasn't played an official organized game for over a year. That's immediately a concern, as he hasn't had much experience actually playing games as of late. A second reason I believe Williams is better is from watching tons of video of Williams and Kanter, as much as I could. I believe that Kanter can become a permanent solid starting center in the NBA, but Williams has the potential to become a multiple-time all-star with so much upside. He's also a better shooter, scorer, and defender (in my opinion) than Kanter.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Okay dude outside of Vince Carter, Pierce and Jamison maybe.... the entire list you put up were either average players, had attitude problems.. or were surprises (like Dirk obviously). Meaning it wasn't that bad. Drafting a legit 7 footer who looked like he could be dominant at the NBA level isn't exactly a rare mistake. Plus... I'm not making fun of the Wolves drafting history. I'm mentioning that they made boneheaded choices this year. I think it's funny they drafted the probable best player in the draft and he's gonna be on the bench all year. Then they kept swapping picks all over the place.[U] I mean if anyone feels Brad Miller>Flynn.. that's on you.[/U] You guys got better offensively and worse defensively or at least stayed the same defensively. Given the fact that the Wolves already have solid young pieces they would of been better off drafting for need.
Grabbing a player who immediately fills a hole. Grabbing a player who plays the positions of your 2 best players= bad strategy IMO.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm You just don't get it.
1) We got rid of Flynn's salary + he sucks
2) Flynn was becoming a malcontent
3) Brad Miller's contract is being covered by insurance
4) We got a future first out of the deal. Getting a future first for Flynn is amazing
5) Motiejunas doesn't fit on our team at all
6) We still got the guy we were targeting before the draft even happened in Malcolm Lee
Nobody ever looks deep into the trades, everyone just assumes that "OH LAWD, KAHN MAKE LOTS OF MVOES. WHAT IS HE DOING?????":rolleyes: