[QUOTE=Younggrease]Yeah but they arent jumping from vert they are getting a running start.[/QUOTE]
What does that change? 13'6-8'8 still = 58 inches
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[QUOTE=Younggrease]Yeah but they arent jumping from vert they are getting a running start.[/QUOTE]
What does that change? 13'6-8'8 still = 58 inches
[QUOTE]didn't someone grab a penny of the top? When i saw it or read about it, i believed it. Was from a credible source if i remember.[/QUOTE]
Ahaahah funny thing is i think that credable source was NBA live because coincidentially i was just playing the game and i was lebron james and after dunking the announcers were talking about how lebron has grabbed a stack of quaters off the top of the backboard.
[QUOTE]I dont think Kareem could. I only say that because I read a quote from Kareem after he watched some guy do it(Dont remember if it was Wilt, Earl the Goat, or Jackie Johnson) and saying he couldnt get that high.
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Well, an eye-wittness told me, and I absolutely trust this guy. This is as much a proof as you can get from players of this era
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]What does that change? 13'6-8'8 still = 58 inches[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I'm thinking, except the top of the backboard is actually 13'1", I think. Remember the backboard is 42" but the rim is 5" from the bottom. 10 feet + 37" = 13'1". That would still require a 53 inch vertical though.
As an example, I'm 5'9" and on a good day I can get my fingertips about 3/4 to the top of the white square, but my running vertical is over 40" for sure. That said, the spot I can touch is still 2 feet from the top. So in theory, even if I were 7 feet with a crazy wingspan I'd still come up short by a few inches.
I guess Dwight seems like the best candidate. He's got the height and crazy wingspan for sure. But even then it seems like he'd need something like a 45 or 46" running vertical. That's insane.
Oh, and I hate to get into the old camera angle argument, but the picture of the football player is from a low angle. He's not quite as high as he looks, although still damn high. And Kobe never touched the top of the backboard. That's a stupid claim. Guy's not even one of the elite leapers, and he's only 6'6".
I Have Seen Vince Carter Take A Dollor In Qaurters Off The Top Of The Backboard N Replace It With A Dollor Bill.
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]What does that change? 13'6-8'8 still = 58 inches[/QUOTE]
running start combined with one foot jump jackass
not two feet from a dead stand still
makes a huge difference
Do you think Carl Lewis would have been able to long jump anywhere near 28 or whatever feet from a standing broad jump
Get a clue
[QUOTE=AI09]I Have Seen Vince Carter Take A Dollor In Qaurters Off The Top Of The Backboard N Replace It With A Dollor Bill.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]running start combined with one foot jump jackass
not two feet from a dead stand still
makes a huge difference
Do you think Carl Lewis would have been able to long jump anywhere near 28 or whatever feet from a standing broad jump
Get a clue[/QUOTE]
All he's saying is that it doesn't matter how you jump, if your standing reach is 8'8" then you'd have to get your hand 58" higher in the air to touch the top. Here on planet Earth jumping 58" up in the air borderlines on impossible. For example, in the Ball Is Life trailer for their new DVD you can see James White get his head about 4 or 5" above the rim which is considered pretty unbelievable no matter who you are. He got a running start and jumped off one foot and that's still only about 47" off the ground. Now imagine someone jumping 58"...nearly a foot more.
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]running start combined with one foot jump jackass
not two feet from a dead stand still
makes a huge difference
Do you think Carl Lewis would have been able to long jump anywhere near 28 or whatever feet from a standing broad jump
Get a clue[/QUOTE]
You should get a clue. Point is no matter how you jump, that's still damn high and not something lots of guys can do as you put it. I was thinking the backboard was 4ft tall, but like Clutch said even if it's 42 inches then 13ft - 8'8= 52 inches. Yea, I'm sure lots of guys can do that :rolleyes:
I've seen Shaq do it, with his head after the backboard came down on him.
The NBA tested Mcdyess at 47 inches with his one step vertical. At 6'9'' or 6'10'' if he has long arms and say he got 50 inches on the run on the highest leap of his life...
What would his reach need to be?
And I still say Larry Nance should be able. Guy jumped damn near like James White but did it at 6'10'' with like a 7'4'' or better wingspan.
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]You should get a clue. Point is no matter how you jump, that's still damn high and not something lots of guys can do as you put it. I was thinking the backboard was 4ft tall, but like Clutch said even if it's 42 inches then 13ft - 8'8= 52 inches. Yea, I'm sure lots of guys can do that :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
roll your eyes, that's it roll them
sorry if I said 'lots' and you assumed it to be 'a lot'
it has been done, people can do it
that was my point
Video would be helpful, why doesnt anyone record these things?
[IMG]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/hasartului/MichaelWilson.jpg[/IMG]
Id like to see that 12 foot dunk done next to a normal rim just to see how high he looked next to it.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855][IMG]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/hasartului/MichaelWilson.jpg[/IMG]
Id like to see that 12 foot dunk done next to a normal rim just to see how high he looked next to it.[/QUOTE]
He so doesnt count. He dunked from the top of the FT circle.
I remember Wild Thing Wilson. Wasn't he reported to have a 51" vertical?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]The NBA tested Mcdyess at 47 inches with his one step vertical. At 6'9'' or 6'10'' if he has long arms and say he got 50 inches on the run on the highest leap of his life...
What would his reach need to be?
And I still say Larry Nance should be able. Guy jumped damn near like James White but did it at 6'10'' with like a 7'4'' or better wingspan.[/QUOTE]
McDyess was a two foot jumper. His numbers wouldn't change too much
One foot jumpers on the other had would see drastic increases in their jumping with a running start
How come Keon Clark, Hakim Warrick, David "Skywalker" Thompson, and Rudy Gay have no Honorable Mentions. All have legit measurements of 41+ verticals, and on a good day with adrenaline, well stretched legs etc., 4+ inches is quite possible.
Interesting subject, guys.
Tony Jaa (ONg-Bak) is said to have a 2 meter vertical.. if so 5'6" + 2" for a reach + 6" vertical should be able to reach the backboard. I call BS on the 2 meter vertical tho.
I heard Dice had like a 4ft max vertical, but I never seen him appear to be that high really. Either way, he's 6'9 so his standing reach is probably 8'10-9ft (I'm looking at the 05 predraft measurements for comparison right now BTW). For comparison of guys the same height, Charlie Villunueva has a 9'1 reach, Turiaf has an 8'11. 13ft-9ft= 48 inches obviously, so maybe in his prime he could do it.
I still find it hard to believe so many people can do it because besides the obvious lack of proof anywhere, it's such a big feat that IMO if anyone could they'd be in Nike or Powerade commercials doing it. Even if they suck, they would find a way somehow to get their showoff on.
Saer Sene, the center for the Sonics from last draft has a 9'5 standing reach (7'8 wingspan) and seems pretty athletic. He would "only" need 43 to get it done. Patrick O'Bryant for the Warriors has a 9'5 reach as well.
[QUOTE]The backboard shall be a rectangle measuring 6' horizontally and 3 1 /2' vertically. The front surface shall be flat and transparent.[/QUOTE]
found this quote from a rules website
[url]http://sportsbookmagazine.com/managearticle.asp?c=330&a=238[/url]
3.5 feet of vertical backboard, with approximately 6" of backboard below the rim.
Someone would have to be able to jump 3' above the rim
hardly impossible
7'5" and up can touch the rim flat footed or tippy toed. So if Yao can get up three feet, he can do it.
Take someone with sick athleticism, and long arms and it is hardly impossible
Kapeesh?
Thompson had a legit 42-44 inch standing vertical but he was like 6'4''. THe Warrick types have a better chance.
And Ralph Sampson should be mentioned again. a 34 inch standing vert at 7'4''.....he had to be way up....
Wilt too.
[QUOTE]Wilt is not a one-sport man, either. At Overbrook High School in Philly, he high jumped 6 feet, 6 inches, ran the 440 in 49.0 seconds and the 880 in 1:58.3, put the shot 53 feet, 4 inches, broad jumped 22 feet. Bill Easton, Jayhawks track boss, predicts Wilt will reach 7 feet in the high jump if he concentrates on it.
"He easily has greater possibilities than any player we ever had here," says Allen, who is in his 39th season at Kansas. "He has coordination, can run and can jump. He can do everything.[/QUOTE]
And that was before the modern style of high jumping. They went over the bar to the side not backwards. Just kinda kicked/flopped over.
Cant find it right now but there is a world fair contest winning picture of wilt wasit level during a practice high jump on a 7 foot bar.
[QUOTE]I still find it hard to believe so many people can do it because besides the obvious lack of proof anywhere, it's such a big feat that IMO if anyone could they'd be in Nike or Powerade commercials doing it. Even if they suck, they would find a way somehow to get their showoff on.[/QUOTE]
You would think that but how many times have we ever seen someone go headlevel just for the sake of proving they could? Dwight Howard kissed the rim once and its the closest ive seen as far as filmed proof.
But everyone knows it happens. Its not even rare. At all.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855][IMG]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/hasartului/MichaelWilson.jpg[/IMG]
Id like to see that 12 foot dunk done next to a normal rim just to see how high he looked next to it.[/QUOTE]
How did that guy set a world record (12') when he's only 6'6" and he's (only) 44" off the ground at most? Doesn't seem like it, but he must have a hell of a wingspan. Otherwise I don't get it.
You know, it seems strange because we see guys jump so high all the time like it's effortless. You get the feeling that they can go higher if they want, but the truth is that guys probably jump as high as they can in a game (warm legs, adrenaline, trying to make highlight reels, etc.). I don't really remember anyone's hand being near the top of the backboard in a game before, so that should tell us something I think. Even the really big blocks on the fast break where guys get a full head of steam to jump up and pin a shot on the glass, it's never higher than the top of the square, right?
Wilt Chamberlain would be the one I put all my money on if I had a chance.
[QUOTE=ClutchCityReturns]See, I think this is a good example. Dude is flying, dunking 12' (world record) off a running start, but look at his feet. He's still [I]only[/I] 44" at most off the ground (just compare his feet to the ruler). He'd still need another 12+ inches somewhere to touch the top of the backboard. Meaning with the same jumping ability he'd have to have a wingspan that was a foot longer. Maybe Datz can help me out but I think the usual wingspan for a 6'6" guy is about 6'8" or so. Going by that, even if some guy had a 7'4" wingspan and a vertical up around 48". Even then he might still come up just short.
It seems strange because we see guys jump so high. You get the feeling that they can go higher if they want, but the truth is that guys probably never jump as high as they do in a game (warm legs, adrenaline, trying to make highlight reels, etc.). I don't really remember anyone's hand being near the top of the backboard in a game before, so that should tell us something I think.[/QUOTE]
poor logic
if he is dunking on twelve feet he has to get the whole ball over the rim right?
That means his hand has to be at least 12'6"
Now picture the same guy jumping WITHOUT the ball. It is way easier to jump without the ball.
he could easily add six inches
Travis Outlaw was like a wristbands width short of the top in that picture that was going around. Why its so hard to find now I dont know. But I read an interview with him saying hes gotten really close hardly trying. But hes never gotten to the very top. Like where he could hang onto the top.
That jump is without the ball. He dunked it off an alley.
It's even possible Wild Thing couldn't do it. You only have to be 5 inches higher than the rim to get a 1hander in, he might "only" be 12'5, or 12'7 (I heard he did a 12'2 rim). Even if nobody would just run up to the rim during halftime and just jump up and hang on the top like "yo look at me" (I would if I could btw), just looking at how high guys are when they dunk, they don't really seem to be there. Highest I ever seen anyone on a dunk I think was the Haislip putback over Kenyon Martin. Ricky Davis and Stacey Augmon both had some head level putback but neither are as tall and long as Haislip who was listed 6'10
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]That jump is without the ball. He dunked it off an alley.[/QUOTE]
he's still gotta line it up and time it, he still has to focus some energy on the catch and flush. a six foot wide backboard as a much wider margin of error
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]poor logic
if he is dunking on twelve feet he has to get the whole ball over the rim right?
That means his hand has to be at least 12'6"
Now picture the same guy jumping WITHOUT the ball. It is way easier to jump without the ball.
he could easily add six inches[/QUOTE]
edit: my math was off when i responded to this initially and i said he needed an extra 13". he actually needs an extra 7", and that's still not the kind of improvement you see suddenly. i mean, the guy was going for world record. if it were possible for him to jump ANY higher, i'm sure he would have. 7" isn't just coming out of nowhere. maybe 1 or 2.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=xeO7oOmk0gI[/url]
Look at Larry Nance at 1:32. They never show that entire dunk but if you pause it you can see he dunked it with his elbow fully bent and his head at or over the rim and if you see it all...he hardly jumped. He was getting up there like nothing.
Hes headlevel coming from the ft line and doing a mini reverse windmill earlier in there.
Has to be close to the highest anyone gets on film.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855][IMG]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/hasartului/MichaelWilson.jpg[/IMG]
Id like to see that 12 foot dunk done next to a normal rim just to see how high he looked next to it.[/QUOTE]
That's absolutely amazing. Who is this guy? Some Globetrotter I guess. It looks like hes got his entire hand over the rim. Why aren't there NBA players trying to break this guys record dunk?
[URL="http://www.nba.com/blazers/chat/travis_outlaw_transcript_011006.html"]http://www.nba.com/blazers/chat/travis_outlaw_transcript_011006.html[/URL]
[quote]Nicolas (France): Hey Travis, did you really touch the top of the backboard ?
Travis Outlaw: Ha-ha (Laughing) I don't know, it depends on the mood I'm in. I've gotten close when I wasn't tryin' that hard...I've never touched the top-top of the backboard, but you never know.... [/quote]
Kareem?
[quote]Now Lew Alcindor is 19, a sophomore playing his first varsity year, and all the nightmares are coming true. He has grown to an awesome 7 ft. 1⅜ in., and in his initial two games he has shown why U.C.L.A.'s Bruins are favorites to wind up as the nation's No. 1 team.
Stopping Alcindor (pronounced Al-sin-der) is obviously a necessity for any team that has designs on the N.C.A.A. championship
Dont know. Clyde Drexler dunked on an 11.5 one almost 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855][url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=xeO7oOmk0gI[/url]
Look at Larry Nance at 1:32. They never show that entire dunk but if you pause it you can see he dunked it with his elbow fully bent and his head at or over the rim and if you see it all...he hardly jumped. He was getting up there like nothing.
Hes headlevel coming from the ft line and doing a mini reverse windmill earlier in there.
Has to be close to the highest anyone gets on film.[/QUOTE]
Unbelievable. Nance was way up there. After this video and the pic of the guy dunking on the 12 ft rim I'm starting to think that some guys really can do it. Though I don't think Joakim Noah's one of them like the announcer said.
More hearsays, whoever 6'6 Gus Johnson is could do it.
[URL="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCJ/is_8_27/ai_65642448"]http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCJ/is_8_27/ai_65642448[/URL]
Carey Bailey
[URL="http://sportsintegration.wvu.edu/mensbasketball/bailey.htm"]http://sportsintegration.wvu.edu/mensbasketball/bailey.htm[/URL]
Mark Madsen?
[URL="http://www.markmadsen.com/bio.html"]http://www.markmadsen.com/bio.html[/URL]
You mean Gus Johnson from the 60s? Ive seen a bit on him. Some power dunks. He was one of the first of those "Dunk on you" types.
[QUOTE=DatZNasty]Mark Madsen?
[URL="http://www.markmadsen.com/bio.html"]http://www.markmadsen.com/bio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
lol. not sure if you simply posted this as a joke or if you realized he was talking about someone else. Kevin Freeman.
Does anybody think Manute Bol could do it. 7'7" with an 8'6" wingspan, would have guaranteed him getting close. I also think I remember reading about him smashing his teeth on the rim when he first tried to dunk.
O LoL, I didn't read the whole thing. I just googled "touch the top of the backboard" and saw a Madsen link come up and the caption said like "he can touch the top of the backboard" and I was like GTFOH! He did have a really good dunk when he was a Buck though and came from like somewhat near ft line off 2 feet in traffic
[QUOTE=The Answer]That's absolutely amazing. Who is this guy? Some Globetrotter I guess. It looks like hes got his entire hand over the rim. Why aren't there NBA players trying to break this guys record dunk?[/QUOTE]
Went to college and played on the same team as Lorenzon Wright. Even in school he did amazing, video game like dunks. Picked the right career to be a Globetrotter. His ups are sick.
12 feet dunk
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNhE0eJe5KI[/url]