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mvp navarro ?
[QUOTE=alenleomessi]mvp navarro ?[/QUOTE]
Should be, but I bet it's going to be Gasol...
Congratulations to Spain.
SPAIN:
Navarro 27/1/5 6-14
P.Gasol 17/10/4 6-12
Calderon 17/4/2 8-12
FRANCE:
Parker 26/5/5 9-20
Diaw 12/4/7 5-8
Noah 11/8/2 5-8
[QUOTE=DonD13]I agree,
but
f[I]u[/I]ck it, I have:
i) France to win
ii) France to first score 20
iii) Batum more than 1,5 three pointers
iv) Tony Parker more than 20,5 points
v) Joakim Noah more than 8,5 rebounds
which means:
GO FRANCE
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i) fail
ii)fail
iii) good
iv) good
v) fail
I lost just a little bit tho
well deserved Spain! :applause:
[QUOTE=Nick Young]Spain has no one who can check Tony Parker, France has a ton of guys able to shut down Navarro, for example Batum who will lock him up easily if given the assignment to, but Gasol and Gasol are too good for all of France's shit bigmen.[/QUOTE]
27 points:roll:
i wish he scored only 27 against us :oldlol:
turkey > spain - pao
mccalebb, navarro, gasol, kirilenko and parker best 5 of the tournament
Im happy for the championship, but Im also a little sad for parker. the guy deserves to win something with france, ****ing beast and plays his heart out
[QUOTE=Nick Young]In Europe maybe, but not NBA against NBA level players, where I have seen him shut down multiple times.[/QUOTE]
No NBA player can guard Navarro when he is on. He has regularly abused Team USA multiple times.
[QUOTE=tommy3]Rubio does not deserve to play in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
He does not deserve to play in Euroleague. He does not deserve to play on Spain's national team.
Like I said over and over and over here - he was the worst point guard in the Euroleague. How many damn times does this have to be explained for NBA fans to grasp how much he sucks?
Quick game recap as Spain beats France for the 2011 European basketball championship:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8303[/url]
[QUOTE=Euroleague]He does not deserve to play in Euroleague. He does not deserve to play on Spain's national team.
Like I said over and over and over here - he was the worst point guard in the Euroleague. How many damn times does this have to be explained for NBA fans to grasp how much he sucks?[/QUOTE]
What NBA fans have said he is good?
it was a good game despite the 10+ lead Spain had virtually all game long. I liked how France kept battling but it was to no avail. they have the defense i think to compete with Spain but didnt have the offensive firepower. TP is the only one who is capable of scoring 20+, While Spain has about 5 players who could explode for 20+. If only Tony Parker had a 2nd scorer for more balance so he doesnt have to carry the scoring load every game, they would be gold medal contenders in any FIBA tournament.
Some flopping i saw by the Spain team that disgusted me. Rubio sucks like always. Sada is much better. Gasol Brothers are gonna be a handle for any team especially Team USA. especially if Ibaka will play for the 2012 team. Navarro is quite good in this stage, within the FIBA rules and within his role of Spain's NT, but i thought TP was the clear MVP of the tournament.
[QUOTE=DuMa]it was a good game despite the 10+ lead Spain had virtually all game long. I liked how France kept battling but it was to no avail. they have the defense i think to compete with Spain but didnt have the offensive firepower. TP is the only one who is capable of scoring 20+, While Spain has about 5 players who could explode for 20+. If only Tony Parker had a 2nd scorer for more balance so he doesnt have to carry the scoring load every game, they would be gold medal contenders in any FIBA tournament.
Some flopping i saw by the Spain team that disgusted me. Rubio sucks like always. Sada is much better. Gasol Brothers are gonna be a handle for any team especially Team USA. especially if Ibaka will play for the 2012 team. Navarro is quite good in this stage, within the FIBA rules and within his role of Spain's NT, but i thought TP was the clear MVP of the tournament.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Batum will be that 2nd option in the future. Playing in Europe next season will help, as he'll be the 1st option in his new team.
As for Parker being the MVP, well, you know they never give it to a player in the losing team.
[QUOTE=chains5000]Maybe Batum will be that 2nd option in the future. Playing in Europe next season will help, as he'll be the 1st option in his new team.
As for Parker being the MVP, well, you know they never give it to a player in the losing team.[/QUOTE]
Batum doesnt create for himself but he can shoot. he is a great addition to France with his defense and set shots. but will likely not be a 2nd option scorer for any professional or national team. he just doesnt have the skillset to create for himself or others.
[QUOTE=DuMa]Batum doesnt create for himself but he can shoot. he is a great addition to France with his defense and set shots. but will likely not be a 2nd option scorer for any professional or national team. he just doesnt have the skillset to create for himself or others.[/QUOTE]
He doesn't yet, but I believe he can develop into a better offensive player. I mean, he's got the athleticism and can shoot, and is what? 22?
[QUOTE=chains5000]He doesn't yet, but I believe he can develop into a better offensive player. I mean, he's got the athleticism and can shoot, and is what? 22?[/QUOTE]
yes 22. but he wouldve show me something by that age to make me think he can score say maybe 16 or 17ppg in FIBA or NBA by now. He's gonna have to utilize that set shot a lot more in the offenses he plays in because thats the only way hes gonna score in a consistent manner.
[QUOTE=DuMa]Batum doesnt create for himself but he can shoot. he is a great addition to France with his defense and set shots. but will likely not be a 2nd option scorer for any professional or national team. he just doesnt have the skillset to create for himself or others.[/QUOTE]
I love it when people just watch one game and assume they know everything about a player.
Batum doesnt create for himself, seriously? They ran a ton of plays for him during the whole tournament, and he was very effective when asked to carry the offense.
Why wasn't the greek superteam playing in this game?
[QUOTE=niko]Why wasn't the greek superteam playing in this game?[/QUOTE]
Because they are too good for them...
[QUOTE=Nero Tulip]I love it when people just watch one game and assume they know everything about a player.
Batum doesnt create for himself, seriously? They ran a ton of plays for him during the whole tournament, and he was very effective when asked to carry the offense.[/QUOTE]
so you think Batum can explode for 20pts or more in a FIBA game?
[QUOTE=DuMa]so you think Batum can explode for 20pts or more in a FIBA game?[/QUOTE]
Huh... is this a joke?
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Go to his game by game stats, he had 3 games over 18 points, one at 20 points. He scored 19 against Russia in the semis, come on I know in basketball you're as good as your last game but that one wasn't that long ago :p
Batum is a phenomenal player, I think he's underused in the NBA and underrated but he has a huge potential.
[QUOTE=chains5000]Maybe Batum will be that 2nd option in the future. Playing in Europe next season will help, as he'll be the 1st option in his new team.
As for Parker being the MVP, well, you know they never give it to a player in the losing team.[/QUOTE]
Batum can shoot and dunk. That's about the extent of his offense.
[QUOTE=Nero Tulip]I love it when people just watch one game and assume they know everything about a player.
Batum doesnt create for himself, seriously? They ran a ton of plays for him during the whole tournament, and he was very effective when asked to carry the offense.[/QUOTE]
Batum as a second option means no chance for France at the Olympics.
[QUOTE=Nero Tulip]Huh... is this a joke?
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Go to his game by game stats, he had 3 games over 18 points, one at 20 points. He scored 19 against Russia in the semis, come on I know in basketball you're as good as your last game but that one wasn't that long ago :p
Batum is a phenomenal player, I think he's underused in the NBA and underrated but he has a huge potential.[/QUOTE] being behind wallace isn't helping his development.
[QUOTE=All Net]being behind wallace isn't helping his development.[/QUOTE]
That's why I think playing in France during the lockout will help him a lot.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Batum can shoot and dunk. That's about the extent of his offense.[/QUOTE]
Once again, proving you have zero knowledge of basketball.
[QUOTE=Nero Tulip]Once again, proving you have zero knowledge of basketball.[/QUOTE]
Stop talking about yourself.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Stop talking about yourself.[/QUOTE]
How bout them Razorbacks? McFadden looking really solid for the Raiders