Can Anyone Give Me an Explanation Other than Steroids For Dwyane Wade's Jaw?

Yeah he did look different in college, maybe because he was like 30 pounds lighter:banghead:

Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of athletes use gh.. Its not a steroid and personally I couldnt care less if someone wants to use it. Id rather see Wade play than sit out for twice as long with the same injuries..

Also, the side effects people are going on about are from either chronic misuse, or a bad reaction to it. Most people you would never be able to tell.

Like I said, I don't even care that he used HGH. I'm just saying, it's pretty clear there's something up with his face. Either he's using HGH, or he puts on muscle in an exceptionally bizarre way. Maybe it is the latter, but the former seem far more likely. Give me an example of another basketball player whose jaw grew like that, and don't say Kobe . . .

He's had wide jaw even as a kid.

[QUOTE=iamgine]He's had wide jaw even as a kid.[/QUOTE]

Did you know Dwyane Wade as a kid? All we ever see is that one picture which is at a 3/4 angle. I have no idea what happened in the interim between his childhood and college, but I remember him from college and he did not look like he does now.

Even at that angle you can see that his jaw was wide as a kid. It's not strange. It's called square face shape. Lots of people have it. Have nothing to do with using or not using HGH.

i have no comment or idea on whether or not it's a natural growth, but Wade's jaw definitely got ridiculous in recent years.

in fact, him and lebron have insane jaws. both of those guys, the bottom half of their heads are much wider than the top half, it's definitely weird.

[QUOTE=knickswin]I have no idea what happened in the interim between his childhood and college, but I remember him from college and he did not look like he does now.[/QUOTE]Here are some pictures from that time period:

[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/30/11093010445336529.jpg[/img]

[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/30/110930104500504914.jpg[/img]

I don't see no chipmunk jaw there.

you can definitely see it in the bottom picture...

Of course the jaw doesn't really show that much when you're skinny.

[QUOTE=Phong]Wade's pain threshold being extremely low, every little contact makes him clench his jaw in pain. Over the year, his masseter muscles have quadrupled in size and made him look like a chipmunk.

That increased head size has also made him highly susceptible to the Earth's gravitational pull; causing him to fall to the ground very frequently.[/QUOTE]

lol

the thing is, it's not like you have to hunt for pictures with weird shadows or where he's looking down or something like that like to show that his jaw was smaller when he was younger. He plain looks different. I could go post some film of him from college and it'd be plain as day throughout the whole thing. I had a post with a bunch of pictures of him from college, and it's not like I was cherry picking pictures where his jaw was less emphasized. I just googled "dwyane wade marquette" and posted all the pictures of decent quality that came up. The kid in those pictures looks noticeably different from Dwyane Wade.

[QUOTE=iamgine]Of course the jaw doesn't really show that much when you're skinny.[/QUOTE]When you're skinny it's when the bone structure is more noticeable. On those pictures his jaw isn't wider than his forehead. The only explanation left is a lot of muscles or fat in his cheeks.

wade went from 205lbs to about 230/235lbs. to say his face looks widder/thicker would just support the fact that he's put on 25 odd lbs.
he went from being built like a basketball player to being built like a football player in just 3-4 short years in the league. go look at football players and you'll see how thick their necks and jaws are.

[QUOTE=Phong]When you're skinny it's when the bone structure is more noticeable. On those pictures his jaw isn't wider than his forehead. The only explanation left is a lot of muscles or fat in his cheeks.[/QUOTE]

compare the first picture in the thread to this one in 2011.
[IMG]http://slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dwyane_wade_marquette_slam.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://images.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/nba-feet-dwyane-wade-air-jordan-2011-blackout-08.jpg[/IMG]

you can draw a straight line essentially for both from the top of the head to the jaw hinge point.

what has changed?

[QUOTE=donald_trump]wade went from 205lbs to about 230/235lbs. to say his face looks widder/thicker would just support the fact that he's put on 25 odd lbs.
he went from being built like a basketball player to being built like a football player in just 3-4 short years in the league. go look at football players and you'll see how thick their necks and jaws are.[/QUOTE]

well they all prolly take hgh too. And Wade is big, but he is not football player big.

It's not like Wade's the only basketball player to ever put on muscle, but most other guys don't morph into chipmunks.

Seems like normal growth here:

[IMG]http://www.sportable.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/wade-kid.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.rosecotto.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/big3.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=knickswin]well they all prolly take hgh too. And Wade is big, but he is not football player big.

It's not like Wade's the only basketball player to ever put on muscle, but most other guys don't morph into chipmunks.[/QUOTE]

he's 6'4 and 235lbs. has there ever been a player at the weight with his height?

he's essentially the karl malone of shooting guards.

I've noticed the change too, but always thought it was just him aging. Look at the way Lebron has aged as well. As you age you tend to gain weight.. and on top of that these guys lift weight..etc.

Wade is 235lbs? Damn I didn't realize he was that big. I always figured he was in the 215-220 range. Guess you gotta be built to take all that contact. Amazing that he's as agile as he is....even at 29 and supposedly at the end of his prime lol

235 is monstrous. That's nearly the same weight as Amar'e. If he really plays at that weight, no wonder he dominates, but I think he plays at a lower weight.

Yeah dude is trippin. No way Wade is 235. I always figured he was around 220 and just checked....he's listed at 220. Sounds about right.

Wade is also not that tall. He is closer to 6'2 than 6'4.

A rendition of what Wade could look like in a couple of years. :D

[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/30/110930112115899325.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=BEAST Griffin][IMG]http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2005/0221/photo/g_bryant_frt.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

was this from the one year where kobe got really jacked?

[QUOTE=knickswin]Wade is also not that tall. He is closer to 6'2 than 6'4.[/QUOTE]

no. he measured 6'4 without shoes at the pre draft.

he was listed at 227lbs the year they won the championship, and he looks heavier now. he's not 220lbs as they list on the sites.

[QUOTE=therammingman]was this from the one year where kobe got really jacked?[/QUOTE]That's the 2004-2005 season. If I remember correctly Kobe was playing at around 230 lbs (his arms and shoulders were huge). As big as he was his jaw didn't suddenly explode to ginormous proportion.

[QUOTE=Phong]That's the 2004-2005 season. If I remember correctly Kobe was playing at around 230 lbs (his arms and shoulders were huge). As big as he was his jaw didn't suddenly explode to ginormous proportion.[/QUOTE]

kobe plays at about 205-210 now. he didn't look 20lbs heavier that season. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=donald_trump]kobe plays at about 205-210 now. he didn't look 20lbs heavier that season. :oldlol:[/QUOTE][url]http://www.clublakers.com/lakers-discussion/kobe-230lbs-t19939.html[/url]

[url]http://www.clublakers.com/lakers-discussion/should-kobe-bulk-this-summer-t52912.html[/url]

[url]http://fitnessblackbook.com/fitness-studs/kobe-bryant-loses-20-pounds-for-upcoming-nba-season/[/url]

very useful sources. a bunch of guys on lakers forums talking about kobe and then a personal training website?

nice research.

[QUOTE=donald_trump]very useful sources. a bunch of guys on lakers forums talking about kobe and then a personal training website?

nice research.[/QUOTE]You're so adamant on trying to be right that you would refuse any source. The first link had a legit source inside but 6 years after the article is not available anymore.

Here's another forum, the guy mentions CNN as a source.
[url]http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185336[/url]

Another guy mentioning the OC Register article
[url]http://sportstwo.com/threads/61628-Kobe-at-230-lbs[/url]

I guess they were all dreaming back in 2004-2005 :rolleyes:


Here's an article from 2002 saying he bulked up to 225 lbs: [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2003/preview/news/2002/10/18/lakers_preseason_ap/[/url]


And here's an article from October 2004: [I][COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]Bryant certainly looks ready, having bulked up to 230 pounds and spearheaded weight-lifting sessions and pickup games with the new Laker family for the past few weeks. [/COLOR][/I]
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=1895217[/url]

Here, another one: [I][COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]The Lakers hired his personal strength coach, Joe Carbone, and Bryant has restored his body, showing up in camp at 230 pounds and in his best condition in two years. [/COLOR][/I]
[url]http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_42_228/ai_n6249317/[/url]

And for good measure, two articles from 2007 in which he said to weight 200 lbs and lost 35 lbs over the past 2 years:
[url]http://fitnessblackbook.com/fitness-studs/kobe-bryant-loses-20-pounds-for-upcoming-nba-season/[/url]
[url]http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/breaking-down-the-nba/49855-kobe-bryants-weight-loss-will-improve-his-game--benefit-los-angeles-lakers[/url]

Sure. Like somebody else said, his cheeks are bloated due to weight gain.

Only on InsideHoops can you get a duscussion on someones jaw and come to the conclusion he did steroids or HGH.

Mental.

[QUOTE=Trigg]Only on InsideHoops can you get a duscussion on someones jaw and come to the conclusion he did steroids or HGH.

Mental.[/QUOTE]
True. Nevertheless, most guys on ISH are in denial mode. HGH is very common among professional athletes, and the NBA is no exception.

:oldlol:

wade in 5 years :

[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/110930112115899325.jpg[/img]

I think LeBron is def on HGH and prob anabolic steroids as well...

Before PEDs:

[IMG]http://media.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/photo/lebron-james-high-school-player-making-of-an-mvpjpg-c2ee76d2543e2503_large.jpg[/IMG]


After PEDs:

[IMG]http://www.therichest.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Lebron-James-Miami-Heat-Jersey.jpg[/IMG]

[COLOR="White"]hahahahaha[/COLOR]

and now we're comparing 16 year old lebron to 25 year old lebron.

yep, its all PED's.

[QUOTE=donald_trump]and now we're comparing 16 year old lebron to 25 year old lebron.

yep, its all PED's.[/QUOTE]

shame on you for not recognizing the humor.

[QUOTE=knickswin]Wade is also not that tall. He is closer to 6'2 than 6'4.[/QUOTE]

no he isnt 6'2'' :facepalm Why do people always want to reduce player's height? If Wade is 6'2'' then what is Rose? 6 feet tall? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=donald_trump]he's 6'4 and 235lbs. has there ever been a player at the weight with his height?

he's essentially the karl malone of shooting guards.[/QUOTE]

Wade isnt 235lbs though. Hes at around 220lbs. Carmelo Anthony is at around 235-240lbs so there's no way Wade is weighing around the same