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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]:facepalm . "Expected to ask" is all speculation. Much different than CP3 telling people who he will and won't sign with or where he would prefer to go. Besides... I was just saying all for it as in... it's a very nice fit.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Gonna make it hard to trade him if he refuses to tell anyone who he will sign an extension with.
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[QUOTE=bdreason]It's the same exact situation as CP3. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
maybe instead of asking, he was just going to query...totally different :rolleyes:
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I thought Dwight wanted to win championships? Might as well stay in ORL
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[QUOTE=Sarcastic]The NBA isn't paying the Magic's salaries, nor are they trying to sell the team. Different situation.
Stern wouldn't have blocked Bynum + Gasol for Dwight. Call Mitch, and tell him to make an offer quick.[/QUOTE]
The blockage was made for "basketball reasons" supposedly unrelated to the owners, and judging by the Gilbert's letter, the owners were more pissed about the Lakers getting Paul and saving money rather than having to pay $15M collectively for the Hornets.
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[QUOTE=Sarcastic]The NBA isn't paying the Magic's salaries, nor are they trying to sell the team. Different situation.
Stern wouldn't have blocked Bynum + Gasol for Dwight. Call Mitch, and tell him to make an offer quick.[/QUOTE]
Stern DID block Dwight going to the Lakers and he knows it.
If he would have let the CP3 trade go through, it was all but a guarantee that Dwight would join CP3 and Kobe.
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Dwight is asking politely, CP3 didn't.
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veereryyyyyy interesting. Keep the thread going, I have to study for a final but I don't want to.
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where are all the haters? LETS GO. This is the reason the Nets have been quiet!!!!!!!!:cheers: :rockon:
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I hope the Nets do get him, just as a reason to convince Deron to stay. Jazz got plenty for him, it'd suck to see the Nets lose him for nothing.
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[QUOTE=Sarcastic]The NBA isn't paying the Magic's salaries, nor are they trying to sell the team. Different situation.
Stern wouldn't have blocked Bynum + Gasol for Dwight. Call Mitch, and tell him to make an offer quick.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.
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Dwight's actually done a good job about not making any demands to his circle. Which is why most were so sure he would make it longer before being traded where as CP3 was being shopped much harder.
If Dwight starts acting like a diva about this as much as CP3 I'll be happy to criticize him. It's not like I'm a Dwight homer or anything.
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[QUOTE=PyrrhusX]Agreed.
What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.[/QUOTE]
Yup. Multiple differences.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Dwight's actually done a good job about not making any demands to his circle. Which is why most were so sure he would make it longer before being traded where as CP3 was being shopped much harder.
If Dwight starts acting like a diva about this as much as CP3 I'll be happy to criticize him. It's not like I'm a Dwight homer or anything.[/QUOTE]
HOW THE FCUK YOU KNOW HE HASNT?
you MEDIA FCUKED RETARD
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Some of you are flat out unreal. Its like discussing things with cartoon characters.
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I'm sorry, but since when did Chris Paul "demand" to be traded? All he did was tell the Hornets he wasn't going to resign because they weren't contending for a championship and that he would like to be traded. How is that ANY different from what Dwight Howard has done...? :roll: Some of you guys need to take off your stupid glasses and realize your hate of the Lakers is impairing your judgment.
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[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]HOW THE FCUK YOU KNOW HE HASNT?
you MEDIA FCUKED RETARD[/QUOTE]
Reading you're stupid posts and this shows how childish you are. Growup you dumbass.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong]I hope the Nets do get him, just as a reason to convince Deron to stay. Jazz got plenty for him, it'd suck to see the Nets lose him for nothing.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I really hope the trade works out for both teams.
NYC, Prokhorov's money and commitment, biggest media market city in the World , etc..so many good reasons for Deron to stay and Dwight to come on board.
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[QUOTE=PyrrhusX]Agreed.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle [/QUOTE]
Get over it? I'm happy. That was a bad deal for us. What I'm worried about is Pau and Lamar's mental state after this shit. Will it affect their play?. I still think it's not over.
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[QUOTE=Kobe 4 The Win]Get over it? I'm happy. That was a bad deal for us. What I'm worried about is Pau and Lamar's mental state after this shit. Will it affect their play?. I still think it's not over.[/QUOTE]
Well I agree.
Assuming Laker's take their current roster and that the above two are of no concern in mental state, the Laker's have a very solid rosterr.
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This actually makes a ton of sense. I would enjoy seeing this happen. The Brooklyn Nets get to kick it off with Dwight and Williams when they get there? Seems like a dream scenario all around.
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Brook Lopez, bleh.... Can you say NBA's worst defensive team?
Wish it were the Clipps as the front runner.
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[QUOTE=Kobe 4 The Win]Get over it? I'm happy. That was a bad deal for us. What I'm worried about is Pau and Lamar's mental state after this shit. Will it affect their play?. I still think it's not over.[/QUOTE]
That's what some of you don't understand (mainly the select few of you who have a few screws loose in the head). This is a much bigger issue than just Lakers/Rockets/Hornets.
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Still don't think it's gonna happen.. Nothing this good ever happens to the Nets. :lol
We'll strike out, have a poor regular season & Deron will bolt to Dallas. Not gonna believe it til it's 100% confirmed & I see Dwight pulling on a Nets jersey.
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I don't think it's the same as the CP3 situation. I think were all stupid for not realizing how difficult it was going to be for the Hornets to move Chris Paul. I kinda had it in the back of my head like what if but never actually put it into play when thinking where he'd end up.
The NBA owns the Hornets. Makes shit ridiculously complicated. Wouldn't have been blocked if the Hornets had an owner. Simple as that. Didn't block the Pau trade. I think if it was ANY big named team this would have happened. Any team with a piece like Kobe on it. NY, Miami etc. Doubt it would have happened if Paul wanted to go to Milwaukee witch is a shitty double standard but a reality. Can't let Paul demand where he wants to go be traded when it's a contender when the NBA owns the team. Esp when the deal your getting back is making the Hornets pay MORE money and not really improve to a significant level.
Howard's situation is completely different. He can demand whatever he'd like and it's up to the Magic owner. Chris Paul can't because clearly that temp GM doesn't have the power to give the final say on things.
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[QUOTE=UK-NJ]Still don't think it's gonna happen.. Nothing this good ever happens to the Nets. :lol
We'll strike out, have a poor regular season & Deron will bolt to Dallas. Not gonna believe it til it's 100% confirmed & I see Dwight pulling on a Nets jersey.[/QUOTE]
You sir are a true Net fan, always a cynic until something is concrete :)
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[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]That's what some of you don't understand (mainly the select few of you who have a few screws loose in the head). This is a much bigger issue than just Lakers/Rockets/Hornets.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry what's the issue? That Lamar has a bigger vajajay than Khloe?
Kobe Bryant straight up is on Youtube saying "trade his ass" about Bynum a few years ago ... did Bynum cry about it?
This is a business, you have a job to do and you get paid a lot of money to do it. Suck it up you two princesses. Trades fall through in the NBA all the time.
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It is not the same as the CP3 situation because it is not the LAKERS, we're talking about the lowly Nets. It is apparently the Lakers fault for working their butts off to win multiple championships. It is okay for Stern to screw with them because they are not a shitty team like the Nets. So many hypocritical losers...not a word y'all say will ever have credibility again.
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[QUOTE=Soundwave]I'm sorry what's the issue? That Lamar has a bigger vajajay than Khloe?
Kobe Bryant straight up is on Youtube saying "trade his ass" about Bynum a few years ago ... did Bynum cry about it?
This is a business, you have a job to do and you get paid a lot of money to do it. Suck it up you two princesses. Trades fall through in the NBA all the time.[/QUOTE]
Its one thing for us to all sit around and talk about it, but the reality is....we all watched Pau Gasol get sensitive during the playoffs last year, and play horribly. And Lamar? Dude practically damn near cried in an interview today with Stephen A....
The reality is, things like this do hurt chemistry. And that is something NO fan wants to see happen to their teams.
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[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]I don't think it's the same as the CP3 situation. I think were all stupid for not realizing how difficult it was going to be for the Hornets to move Chris Paul. I kinda had it in the back of my head like what if but never actually put it into play when thinking where he'd end up.
The NBA owns the Hornets. Makes shit ridiculously complicated. Wouldn't have been blocked if the Hornets had an owner. Simple as that. Didn't block the Pau trade. I think if it was ANY big named team this would have happened. Any team with a piece like Kobe on it. NY, Miami etc. Doubt it would have happened if Paul wanted to go to Milwaukee witch is a shitty double standard but a reality. Can't let Paul demand where he wants to go be traded when it's a contender when the NBA owns the team. Esp when the deal your getting back is making the Hornets pay MORE money and not really improve to a significant level.
Howard's situation is completely different. He can demand whatever he'd like and it's up to the Magic owner. Chris Paul can't because clearly that temp GM doesn't have the power to give the final say on things.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
Its unfortunate, but its reality.
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[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQZlXWU0aO0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQZlXWU0aO0[/URL]
I'M GONNA CRY I'M SO HAPPY, PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!
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Everyone seems relaxed, and calm.
How the sh*t will hit the fan, and everyone will be enraged again if Dwight turns up on the Lakers.
Basically a league cannot run this way, but everyone excepts it when the Lakers are the ones that get sh*tted on.
HIL-AR-IOUS.
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[QUOTE=PyrrhusX]Exactly.
Its unfortunate, but its reality.[/QUOTE]
What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.
It's not like the offer the Lakers made was that great, odds are New Orleans wouldn't have any of those players on their roster in 2-3 years time.
Martin is overrated big time, Odom would bolt the first chance he gets.
Get some legit young players that you can actually build something around, I'm sure the Clippers would oblige. If not, Danny Ainge is a gambler, he'd probably ship Rondo, who is a much better player to work with going forward than all this salary junk the Hornets were getting.
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[QUOTE=Allstar24]It is not the same as the CP3 situation because it is not the LAKERS, we're talking about the lowly Nets. It is apparently the Lakers fault for working their butts off to win multiple championships. It is okay for Stern to screw with them because they are not a shitty team like the Nets. So many hypocritical losers...not a word y'all say will ever have credibility again.[/QUOTE]
What don't you understand? The NBA owns the Hornets. It makes shit reaaaal complicated obviously. Something everybody seemed to forget when talking about where Paul was going to end up. NBA didn't cancel the Pau trade? Didn't stop the Heat from ganging up. Let's not pretend the NBA is out to get the Lakers, because that's downright silly. Just found themselves the winners of a shitty situation and got screwed.
Howard can go anywhere he wants, demand it. Be it NJ, L.A, NY and the NBA can't do shit because there not the owners. Seriously the NBA couldn't have done what they just did to ANY team with Howard.
Chris Paul is going to be like free agency. The NBA will dictate who can do what and when.
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I think even Dwight knows he can't demand a trade to the Lakers because he knows damn well that Rich DeVos will have nothing to do with sending another big man star to the Lakers after Shaq.
The Lakers made life long enemies there with alleged tampering in acquiring/courting O'Neal in 1996.
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[QUOTE=Soundwave]What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.
It's not like the offer the Lakers made was that great, odds are New Orleans wouldn't have any of those players on their roster in 2-3 years time.
Martin is overrated big time, Odom would bolt the first chance he gets.
Get some legit young players that you can actually build something around, I'm sure the Clippers would oblige. If not, Danny Ainge is a gambler, he'd probably ship Rondo, who is a much better player to work with going forward than all this salary junk the Hornets were getting.[/QUOTE]
Im not a lakers fan (ThunderUp), but the reality was that if the NBA did not own the Hornets, CP3 would be a Laker, no matter how good/bad the trade was.
Hence unfortuate for them :P
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[QUOTE=Soundwave]What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.
[/QUOTE]
WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"
This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.
Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"
Come on now.
[I]"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"[/I]
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Honestly what if the Lakers won the championship this year with Chris Paul, and afterwards it came out a team like Washington was offering John Wall + 1st round pick for an unextended Chris Paul? Or Indy was offering Paul George\tons of money savings for the team? But the Hornets decided to go with Odom, Kevin Martin etc. The whole world would talk about how an NBA own team made an extremely subjective choice that completely changed the history of the NBA.
Still don't think Chris Paul to L.A is dead. Think they'll wait a little longer, training camp hasn't even started and there trading him? Why not wait a few weeks into the season. His value is still there. Maybe NO wins some games, surprises people and Paul stays? Similar to what Denver tried to do with Melo. You have until the deadline before he walks for nothing. Why not see what your best value is for both sides? It's what any other NBA team would do. See what's out there, wait a few teams out and maybe increase his value for a team looking to take a risk.
Things like that is what makes the Howard situation 10x different from the Paul one and why Howard landing in NJ won't get vetoed. That's on the Magic owner ... a stupid owner. Owners give out max contracts to Joe Johnson, Chandler etc. Chris Paul's situation reflects the NBA as a whole, not one owner.
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My roommate is a huge Lakers fan. This is one of the best days in recent memory.
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[QUOTE=PyrrhusX]Agreed.
What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.[/QUOTE]
what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?
Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.
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In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.