Eric Gordon extension is off

[quote=JohnRuck]hornets247.com
I was told offer was for 4 years, slightly over 50 mil. Gordon wanted AT LEAST what other teams can offer him in summer- 4 yr/58 mil[/quote]thanks. wasn't calling you a liar or anything, just well, y'know :oldlol:.

all good bro, i edited the post and added the link for ya. +1

It's also alleged Indy's owner doesn't think it's "right" to chase RFAs. Driving up the cost on fellow small market owners and such. I honestly can't remember the Pacers ever offering an RFA, of course, they also haven't had cap space since...well since I knew what a salary cap was, until this past season.

And of course, talk is cheap. I really do think the whole "Indy'll pull out all the stops to get EJ" stuff is more media fluff than reality though.

clippers want him back

Must be basketball reasons...

[QUOTE=All Net]Must be basketball reasons...[/QUOTE]
yes, i'm sure the reason has to do with basketball....

I could see the celtics trying to sign him in the off season

[QUOTE=ballerz]I could see the celtics trying to sign him in the off season[/QUOTE]
wouldnt be possible

i hate the nba. so glad i only follow two teams ( grizz and knicks)

why the hell didn't the Chris Paul deal go through. it was a way better deal then the deal that went through. and their 3-18 record shows it

Chris Paul should be a Laker right now helping Kobe catch MJ's 6 rings

They offered him 50/4? That is a generous offer. I doubt he'll get more in the summer, especially since he might not have a career year.

That was a reasonable offer.Dude is injured half the time,no way he deserves the max.

[QUOTE=LJJ]They offered him 50/4? That is a generous offer. I doubt he'll get more in the summer, especially since he might not have a career year.[/QUOTE]

Really, he doesn't even deserve this.

But he is a restricted free agent, so the Hornets can match. Doubt any sane team will offer more than this.

Here's the AP on this issue, this morning:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9141[/url]

Or........ Maybe EG wants to play with Kyrie? Yeahhhhhh. Jamison comes off the books. Sign EG, draft Barnes and we got a future core of Irving/Gordon/Barnes/Thompson/Varejao. Nice.

[QUOTE=jbryan1984]Or........ Maybe EG wants to play with Kyrie? Yeahhhhhh. Jamison comes off the books. Sign EG, draft Barnes and we got a future core of Irving/Gordon/Barnes/Thompson/Varejao. Nice.[/QUOTE]
No one wants to play for the cavs. :rolleyes:

I can't think of a better basketball fit than him coming to Minnesota.

Oh god if Kahn can pull that off all would be forgiven and I would change my username:bowdown:

Allegedly this is part of the reason the Clippers traded him.

He wanted max money and they didn't think he was worth max.

At the end of the day you can only afford 2 max players under new CBA and they decided they'd rather have a maxed Paul than maxed Gordon.

[QUOTE=Darius]Allegedly this is part of the reason the Clippers traded him.

He wanted max money and they didn't think he was worth max.

At the end of the day you can only afford 2 max players under new CBA and they decided they'd rather have a maxed Paul than maxed Gordon.[/QUOTE]
No, the reason they traded him is because of Chris Paul.

[QUOTE=JohnRuck]Hornets offered 4 yrs a little over 50mil. EJ wanted what he THINKS he could get later 4 yrs/58mil

He was lowballed, but honestly, what good is it to get him signed now when you can do the same deal later and know more about the knee, the team, more trades, THEIR PICKS, etc.?[/QUOTE]


he wasn't low balled at 12mill/year that is crazy, and if anything the Hornets will way overpay for someone who is very unproven especially if someone else offers more and they match. he was stellar for like a month or two with the Clippers when they were all hurt where he got all of the shots and played at a all star level but that is far from proven franchise player money. add in the injury prone'ness, him being a guard, and 12mill/year is already too much....

i'd be willing to bet he doesn't end up being worth that contract. whether its inconsistency in being able to carry them, or being constantly hurt.

[QUOTE=colorz]What does Indiana's cap space look like? I've always heard that EJ always wanted to return there.[/QUOTE]



They got a good amount of cap space, even with David West and Danny Granger. They have about $18million, with the need to re-sign Hibbert (must) and Hill (must, I think).



Danny Granger is not gonna be there tho. For how long, especially with him having grown to 6'10, can Paul George play the 2? That's crazy.



3team trade time. I keep thinking about Granger, Gay, Gordon...Gordon is gonna end up back in Indiana, I think.


Maybe Gasol, lol...that would work, tho that's actually a completely different trade.

[QUOTE=JohnRuck]wouldnt be possible[/QUOTE]
And why's that?

He will never, ever be a Clipper again. They already guaranteed that when they promised him that he was not included in any deal for Chris Paul, and then up and traded him anyway. Was pissed about that and was even quoted on it.

That said, his issues with injuries leads me to believe that he'll wind up in Portland.

[QUOTE=lilojmayo]i hate the nba. so glad i only follow two teams ( grizz and knicks)

why the hell didn't the Chris Paul deal go through. it was a way better deal then the deal that went through. and their 3-18 record shows it

Chris Paul should be a Laker right now helping Kobe catch MJ's 6 rings[/QUOTE]
It would not have been a better deal. The NBA is trying to sell the Hornets and it would be a lot harder to do that with a lot more guaranteed salary. The Hornets got youth and draft picks, much better than old players on large contracts. You need to look further than this season.

[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]It would not have been a better deal. The NBA is trying to sell the Hornets and it would be a lot harder to do that with a lot more guaranteed salary. The Hornets got youth and draft picks, much better than old players on large contracts. You need to look further than this season.[/QUOTE]

So it's easier to sell the Hornets with a 3-18 roster? The problem is that Stern doesn't want to relocate the Hornets out of New Orleans. Keeping that team in New Orleans is a horrible investment.

[QUOTE=longtime lurker]So it's easier to sell the Hornets with a 3-18 roster? The problem is that Stern doesn't want to relocate the Hornets out of New Orleans. Keeping that team in New Orleans is a horrible investment.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. Potential owners don't care about the Win/Loss of the current team. Everything in business is about $$$ and the ability to create your vision of a team. Cap flexibility + young good players + draft picks are infinitely better than old players on large contracts who might not even make you a play off team.

[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]CP3, EJ, Butler, Griffin, and DJ would be a dream come true :banana:[/QUOTE]

Sterling is too cheap to go pay Gordon any money :oldlol:

[QUOTE=ballerz]And why's that?[/QUOTE]

1. the Hornets will offer him the same amount in the summer.
2. Gordon agent goes out and see if they can land a contract worth more than the offer and signs.
3. If they can't Hornets win big, but if Gordon finds the contract he's looking for, hornets match.

Hornets can still match any offer to Gordon in the offseason. Just means they won't get a discount.

[QUOTE=longtime lurker]So it's easier to sell the Hornets with a 3-18 roster? The problem is that Stern doesn't want to relocate the Hornets out of New Orleans. [B]Keeping that team in New Orleans is a horrible investment.[/B][/QUOTE]

explanation?

[QUOTE]The NBA is trying to sell the Hornets and it would be a lot harder to do that with a lot more guaranteed salary. The Hornets got youth and draft picks, much better than old players on large contracts. [/QUOTE]

The Hornets with the Lakers deal would baaaaaarely reach the salary FLOOR next year. And that would be with Kmarts 12 million expiring deal. Lets not act like cap space is actually an issue.

And its never hard to sell an nba team. The founder of oracle said he bid 350 million. More than the NBA bought them for.....

Its not an issue of finding buyers. People bid for NBA teams and the NBA decides who to allow in based on a lot of issues. In this case...the desire to keep the team in NO is the major one. Larry Ellison was rumored to move them to San Jose.

The NBA having trouble selling a team is just straight fiction. Put an NBA team up for sale people come to you. But a desire to buy it and the money arent the only factors.

Its no doubt true the NBA wants to build up the fanbase so ticket sales and support look better so a new owner might keep them where they are. But really...they wouldnt go for Chris Paul on a playoff team.

Eric Gordon is not half the attraction he was.