mah ***** Lincoln was a vampire hunter
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mah ***** Lincoln was a vampire hunter
theodore roosevelt
Thomas Jefferson was probably the most racist president lol.
It's between Reagan, Lincoln, and Eisenhower. There's no debate.
[QUOTE=ConanRulesNBC]Bill Clinton and FDR[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
Clinton is so overrated. Clinton shouldn't be mentioned in the same breathe as FDR.
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Thomas Jefferson was probably the most racist president lol.[/QUOTE]
So youre saying hew was the best?
Clinton has always been my personal favorite
[QUOTE=Heilige]Thomas Jefferson had slaves, so don't you think he was sort of a hypocrite?[/QUOTE]
The cute idea of freedom is always evolving. In 200 years from now(if we even make it that far) I wonder what they would be saying about our notion of freedom??
my personal favorite is Nixon, more so because I find his persona interesting. How can someone who had all his self doubts and paranoia reach the highest office in the land???
[QUOTE=MMM]my personal favorite is Nixon, more so because I find his persona interesting. How can someone who had all his self doubts and paranoia reach the highest office in the land???[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gVESsj9okI[/url]
[QUOTE=miller-time][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gVESsj9okI[/url][/QUOTE]
Can you describe the video I can't access it from work
[QUOTE=MMM]Can you describe the video I can't access it from work[/QUOTE]
Just a Futurama Nixon video, they are talking about why they would/wouldn't vote for him.
I love Futurama's Nixon.
[QUOTE=miller-time]Just a Futurama Nixon video, they are talking about why they would/wouldn't vote for him.
I love Futurama's Nixon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The only one who's changed is me. I've become more bitter and, let's face it, crazy over the years. And when I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat, and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place! [/QUOTE]
my fav Nixon quote, I also love Evil Lincoln
Abe.
Who killed vampires when they were still president? That's my favorite president.
Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, FDR on my short list.
I have Washington out front. Many posts in this thread talk about him being overrated but I believe he is in fact underrated.
There are Presidents who have accomplished more during their Presidency, but Washington's impact on the office itself cannot be overstated. I really believe that ANY other man from Jefferson, to Madison, etc. and the U.S. would not have been as successful in those early years, and may have in fact collapsed a bit. (I don't think completely because along with Washington you had a large collection of extremely capable politicians, which is something the British didn't take into account... and I'm getting off track).
Washington is still the standard bearer for the office. Here, I advise you to [URL="http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp"]read his farewell address[/URL].
All of the founding fathers, indeed even the Revolution itself, if muddled with myth these days, but Washington is the one man that, the farther I go into history, he still seems to live up to it.
[QUOTE=Heilige]Thomas Jefferson had slaves, so don't you think he was sort of a hypocrite?[/QUOTE]
Regarding Jefferson's slaves:
He was given them when he was 14, and was not legally allowed to free them. He actually tried hard to do so, and was a vocal opponent of slavery. He just lived in the wrong times politically to get anything done about it.
I'm sure he could of fought of harder against slavery, especially as president, although doing so would of political suicide during his time.
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[QUOTE=Heilige]Thomas Jefferson had slaves, so don't you think he was sort of a hypocrite?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.monticello.org/site/plantation-and-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-slavery[/url]
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Thomas Jefferson was probably the most racist president lol.[/QUOTE]
Lol I know you're retarded on 3 levels now.
1) AJ's Trail of Tears is clearly more racist in nature than anything TJ did.
2) Like who gives a fukk about minor social issues when the dude had a great track record overall. No wonder this generation is retarded. Taught to argue gay rights and abortion over and over and over again in highschool with a foreign and domestic affairs wayyy in the background.. Taught to discredit any credibility from the "less socially progressive" when they could very well have much to offer in other areas.L That's like belittling MLK's legacy cuz he was a womanizer, or MJ's because he'z an azzhole. We're looking for competent, charismatic leaders here, not beacons of morality.
3) Kevin Durant is not worthy of holding the Master title.
Anywho
#1) TJ. Monticello, Louisana Purchase, D.o.I, and many more!!!
#2) TDR. Conservation and Rough Ryder ftw!!!
#3) Jackson. Anti-National Bank ftw!!!!
FDR, Washington, and Lincoln below that.. only getting 2nd tier because of their major sins. FDR Messin wit da SC and the checks and balances, GW should've married a hawter brawd, and Abe freed the slaves in the South befo da north and came with his share of scandals. He commanded SHerman to go all-out adnd burned way too much Agriculture as well.. not wise. Johnson (fuikker) demonstrated one of the worst ways to recuperate from all this destruction.
Underrated.
LBJ, Truman, Taft, Polk, JQA.
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Thomas Jefferson was probably the most racist president lol.[/QUOTE]
Ths. Dude was a ****ing dbag at the bars, couldn't stand listening to him when he was drunk (like he was ever silver either).
If anyone says one derogatory words of either Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Davis, Al Jefferson, or Jefferson Airplane.
I will tell JEFF that you posted porn in the Pacers forum and quickly deleted it.
Alien and Sedition Acts revamped, now.
Bill Clinton MVP.
[QUOTE=falc39]For me it's easily Thomas Jefferson...
-Fricken [I]author[/I] of the Constitution (most major contributor)
-Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon
-Killed the national bank
-Spearheaded the philosophy of freedom and many other libertarian-type ideals, many that are looked up to and sought today.
-Built and designed the University of Virginia.
Not many people know this, but Jefferson was the first American anthropologist. In addition, he was a farmer, architect, lawyer, among other things. He wasn't just practicing these fields, he contributed to innovating them too. For farming, he designed the moldboard plow. He was fluent in five different languages. Incredibly learned man. Knew his history, literature, and economics. His library was considered legendary at the time for a single person. I haven't even touched on his contributions to religious freedom. In terms of American enlightenment, only Benjamin Franklin can hold a candle against him, but he was never a president... The standard this guy sets when it comes to intellectualism is unreal and I don't think we will ever see a president like him (at least in my lifetime).[/QUOTE]
while I agree that its clearly jefferson, he was not the first american anthropologist. an argument can be made that he was one of the first american archaeologists, but the first american "anthropologist" has him beat by a couple hundred years (Cabeza de Vaca).
I love me some JFK, no homo.
- 1964 Civil Rights act
- lowered taxes for the rich...which boomed the economy.
- outmaneuvered Russia.
LBJ used JFK's memory to pass the CR act, but it was JFK's idea.
Al Gore...Oh Wait