Every time I see one of these threads I think, "Now who the hell bumped this old ass thread?"
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Every time I see one of these threads I think, "Now who the hell bumped this old ass thread?"
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who is greg Oden :confusedshrug:
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Don't forget, the Blazers could have had Michael Jordan too:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Jasper]who is greg Oden :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
I think he was the center Portland drafted in 1984.
[QUOTE=KDthunderup]I feel the dude needs to get out of Portland, place must be cursed or something (srs) he should go to the Suns and see what they can do with him.[/QUOTE]
If im not mistaken, Redd has played the most games, albeit limited minutes, since he had his injury. Grant hill has been injury free for years now playing in phoenix. There is something magical going on over there in the valley of the sun.
[quote=vinsane01]If im not mistaken, Redd has played the most games, albeit limited minutes, since he had his injury. Grant hill has been injury free for years now playing in phoenix. There is something magical going on over there in the valley of the sun.[/quote]Good article about about PHX's staff and how they're different [URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/paul_forrester/01/22/suns-trainers/index.html"]here[/URL]
Ok, now his career is over. How the hell did this happen?
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Good article about about PHX's staff and how they're different [URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/paul_forrester/01/22/suns-trainers/index.html"]here[/URL][/QUOTE]
Interesting article. YUMS, the Young unorthodox medical staff. I wouldnt be surprised if in a few years, their method becomes the orthodox way of treatment, rehabilitation, maintaining health and preventing injuries. Every teams medical staff should just throw their computers away and use a goniometer. :D
[quote=vinsane01]Interesting article. YUMS, the Young unorthodox medical staff. I wouldnt be surprised if in a few years, their method becomes the orthodox way of treatment, rehabilitation, maintaining health and preventing injuries. Every teams medical staff should just throw their computers away and use a goniometer. :D[/quote]I'm surprised it hasn't already, they've been doing it for years. Maybe some teams have started using some of Phoenix's methods and we just don't know, stories on NBA training staffs probably aren't much of a hit getter.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]I'm surprised it hasn't already, they've been doing it for years. Maybe some teams have started using some of Phoenix's methods and we just don't know, stories on NBA training staffs probably aren't much of a hit getter.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I reckon their success and excellence is well known throughout the league, so i wouldnt be surprised if their way is slowly being adopted by the other teams.
Yeah it sucks for him, but people are stupid for trying to put more weight on him. lol. It's like yeah he's got bad knees so get in the weight room and put about 30 pounds on your upper body.
-Smak
Very sad indeed....
[QUOTE=swi7ch]Can anyone still say this guy is not Sam Bowie reincarnated???[/QUOTE]
Sam Bowie played 500+ NBA games over the course of a decade, and at a fairly productive level.
So yes, it's easy to say Oden isn't Bowie incarnated.
[QUOTE=ILLsmak]Yeah it sucks for him, but people are stupid for trying to put more weight on him. lol. It's like yeah he's got bad knees so get in the weight room and put about 30 pounds on your upper body.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
The first thing I thought when I heard he had another surgery. Portland's trainers seriously miscalculated with how they decided to handle Oden.
I seriously feel bad for Oden on a personal level. He has had more surgeries than any 20-something should have to endure. I know you love the game but you have to think about your on personal well-being.
[QUOTE=vinsane01]If im not mistaken, Redd has played the most games, albeit limited minutes, since he had his injury. Grant hill has been injury free for years now playing in phoenix. There is something magical going on over there in the valley of the sun.[/QUOTE]
Hill played two full seasons of starters minutes in Orlando (04-05, 06-07), missing extended time the year in between with a shin injury, before coming to PHX. They've done a great job keeping him healthy, but much of that falls on Hill's tremendous dedication to rehab, diet, exercise.
Michael Redd's filling a roster spot where they wanted a veteran shooter for the nights Hill/Nash have to sit out. Playing 15 minutes here and there. Not showing much of anything.
Oden buddy ... call it quits.
thats way to many surgeries since leaving college, to have one limb be shorter than the other is just to much of a physical miscue to carry on like this.
oden had that type of game that translated well to the nba, which a lot of athletic centers cant put together. i mean look at deandre jordan. built like a machine, huge vertical, insane strength, yet even with minutes cant really put it together.
oden was on the verge of becoming the best big man in the nba. i remember his games against dwight and bynum, probably two of the strongest guys in the league right now, and he absolutely dominated them in terms of strength. it was incredible watching him get in the key and push into wherever he wanted to on the court against them.
sad to hear this. really want him to come back and give it another shot. miami, suns or magic imo would be great for him.
I feel terrible for him. Hope he gets better, seems like a great and genuine guy.
is it possible the doctors screwed this guy's knee up ? .. this is getting out of hand .. how the heck were these knee problems not detected before ?
[quote=RoseCity07]Ok, now his career is over. How the hell did this happen?[/quote]
Easy---his body just isn't made for the physicality of basketball. It's like forcing a car to do off-road racing with broken suspensions. You can keep repairing it but it's going to fail every time because there is something fundamentally wrong with the car.
He has bad bone genetics.
Greg Oden = Poor man's Michael Olowokandi...
:facepalm
[QUOTE=christian1923]If i'm a blazers fan i am SOOOOOOOOOOOO pissed. could have had kevin durant[/QUOTE]
If Durant was drafted by the Blazers he'd be the one getting another knee surgery while Oden would be playing 82 games a year in OKC.
[QUOTE=stephanieg]If Durant was drafted by the Blazers he'd be the one getting another knee surgery while Oden would be playing 82 games a year in OKC.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. Both Bowie or Oden (and Brandon Roy to a smaller extent) had histories of serious injuries before coming into the NBA.
Portland wasn't victimized by freak accidents/injuries, they were picked based on the Blazers gambling that the player would be able to stay healthy, and losing.
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]I'm going to make a bold prediction:
Greg Oden is never going to play another game of basketball.[/QUOTE]
Professionally, yes. He may shoot some hoops in his backyard every now and then.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Feel bad for the guy.
Thats stupid to say because OKC would have taken Oden. Then what? You keep going down the f*king lottery list of what teams passed up to take Greg Oden? Hindsight 20/20.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but who were the best players in that draft after Kevin Durant? Al Horford and Joakim Noah? If Portland drafted Durant, OKC busting on picking Oden wouldn't have been that big of a deal since they would've just passed up on Al Horford, an all-star but not an elite MVP type player like Durant.
[QUOTE=donald_trump]oden was on the verge of becoming the best big man in the nba.[/QUOTE]
Who really believes that Oden, if completely healthy, would ultimately be better than DHo or Bynum? Count me among the doubters.
To me, he was weak offensively and fouled too much.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Who really believes that Oden, if completely healthy, would ultimately be better than DHo or Bynum? Count me among the doubters.
To me, he was weak offensively and fouled too much.[/QUOTE]
At 19 Bynum and Howard weren't beasts offensively either. Oden wasn't quite the athlete that Howard was or have quite the amount of polish on his post game as Bynum, but he was more well rounded offensively then either. Given health and time to improve his skills, I had no problem seeing him scoring at least 17 points a game.
Too bad we'll never know though.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Who really believes that Oden, if completely healthy, would ultimately be better than DHo or Bynum? Count me among the doubters.
To me, he was weak offensively and fouled too much.[/QUOTE]
His footwork was quite impressive though. There was so much potential there.
Obviously, he fouled too much but that was more the result of him not recognizing his own strength than anything else. Actually, in a preseason game, I recall him going up for a dunk but ending up knocking three Kings players to the floor and getting whistled for an offensive foul instead. That's the sort of fouls he would get into.
And the guy commanded double-triple teams for having done sh*t in the NBA. He had that large of a presence on the court.
He was starting to look more polished his second year when he was averaging 15/9 for a stretch. But then, the inevitable happened.
Biggest bust in NBA history and it's not even close. And I'm dead f*cking serious. What a waste of money and a #1 pick.
[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]Oden wasn't quite the athlete that Howard was or have quite the amount of polish on his post game as Bynum, but he was [B]more well rounded[/B] offensively then either.[/QUOTE]
"Well rounded"? How?
I thought he was already out for the season.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]"Well rounded"? How?[/QUOTE]
Well, as I pointed out, he had very solid footwork. This allowed him to play a legit post game that never got utilized due to either injuries, foul trouble, or having to share the offensive load with Aldridge and Roy.
He had enough strength to dunk with authority. Like Dwight Howard, he had strong handles for a center:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhnvYmgRPv0[/url]
He had a high level of talent and skills. Now, could he actually coordinate these skills together? Maybe.
Unfortunately, we'll never find out.
Shame as a healthy blazers team could likely of been favourites to come out the west for many years.
Way of the world sadly...
[QUOTE=Joshumitsu]Unfortunately, we'll never find out.[/QUOTE]
True that.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]"Well rounded"? How?[/QUOTE]
He came into the league at about the same time as Dwight and Bynum, and as such he was compared to them a lot when he was a prospect. The vast majority agreed that he was 2nd in both athleticism (behind Dwight) and post moves (after Bynum), as well as being viewed as the one with the greatest defensive potential.
Sounds pretty "well rounded" to me.
[QUOTE=wagexslave]Biggest bust in NBA history and it's not even close. And I'm dead f*cking serious. What a waste of money and a #1 pick.[/QUOTE]
yeah....FUKK the blazers GM :mad: execute that scumbag
[QUOTE=tomtucker]yeah....FUKK the blazers GM :mad: execute that scumbag[/QUOTE]
I'm sure he already contemplates suicide every time he sees Kevin Durant playing on the TV.
A poster at Bedge pointed out Portland could have picked Adam Morrison over LaMarcus Aldridge. After all Aldridge was injured in college and Morrison was a beast. You can't always look at injuries, especially wrist injuries.
The red flag should have been his hip surgery though. Portland did mess up, but not as bad as some people on here think.
Passing on MJ was a huge mistake. Bobby Knight told the Blazers GM he better draft Jordan and play him at center. They had a ton of people telling them to pick Jordan.
Is he out for next season too?
[QUOTE=alenleomessi]Is he out for next season too?[/QUOTE]
Obviously. It takes a year to get back from that so he won't be back until March 2013.