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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]More Wilt Stories:
-Was better a badminton player than basketball player
-Climbed up Mount Everest than slid down it on a garbage can lid
-revived a coma patient by slapping him in the head with his d1ck.
[B]- Played QB and WR at the same time in high school.[/B]
- Bowled a perfect game using a football
-played kicked ball using a medicine ball[/QUOTE]
:lol That was said by Shaq on the episode of his Shaq Vs - (Shaq vs Ben)!
[QUOTE=millwad]FIXED[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]:lol That was said by Shaq on the episode of his Shaq Vs - (Shaq vs Ben)![/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
coincidence since I never watched Shaq's show. Im guessing it was sh1tty though.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]:oldlol:
coincidence since I never watched Shaq's show. Im guessing it was sh1tty though.[/QUOTE]
I'll say this... his show was about as good as his rap albums.. :D
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]I heard he ate a horse
Outswam and a shark...and then killed it
dunked on the moon[/QUOTE]
I heard from a person whose friends cousins father saw wilt out run a cheetah while carrying 500 lbs of weight in each hand. Then he went back to the hotel and had sex with 6 women afterward to maintain his daily average to reach 20k women
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][IMG]http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg[/IMG]
- 500 lbs bench press
- 50" vertical
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them
- Dunked his freethrows in high school
[B]- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes[/B]
- Could average 70 points per game in the 90's
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs
- A world class volleyball player[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I had good seats to one of the LA regular season games in the early 70's.
From my vantage point there was a slew of celebrities that had come to watch the game, I had been to other games before and we always tried to identify and count the celebrities at half-time. Anyways, believe it or not Chuck Norris attended this particular game.
A time out was called about 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter by a FUMING Sharmen because Wilt flat-out stopped playing basketball. He was just standing there blankly starring into the stands. I knew what was going on immediately and It sent chills down my spine. For the next 10 minutes I was very afraid....
Wilt had locked eyes with Chuck Norris and neither one of them was about to back down. Normally time out's are 30 seconds and play must resume but all it took was 15 seconds for everyone in the entire arena to realize the titanic personal battle that had begun. Wilt wasn't moving and Norris.. well you know.
[IMG]http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/chuck_will_kick_your_ass.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0310/nba_g_wilt11_576.jpg[/IMG]
The auditorium fell into complete silence - fans just collectively [I]knew[/I] any disturbance responsible for either Wilt or Norris's loss of concentration would be met with sudden death. Nearly 10 minutes pass before a universal paradox happened that to this day I can not fathom.
[I]Norris[/I] blinked first.
Whispers and shocked faces in the crowd instantly erupted but Chuck was just as quick to flash a panoramic gaze that seemed to envelop the entire arena in fear. The ref's, in their shared state of panic, blew their whistle's and continued the game to re-focus everyone's attention. Wilt and the Lakers resumed play - and with a smirk on his face Wilt scored Two-Hundred points in the final 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter and sat the rest of the game out to sleep with 17 women and take a seat next to a confused Norris to explain to him how to cope with losing. To this day no-one dare acknowledge that game. Everyone pretends it never happened because no one wants to acknowledge Chuck's defe.....
[QUOTE=jlauber]Dunce Bungalow at his finest:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=jlauber]Now, how about the REAL "Wilt Tall Tales" that we have read here on this forum many times, and usually by the same moronic posters:
"Wilt played in a weak era and against short white guys."
:roll:
"Wilt shooting 1-11 from the line in game seven of the '70 Finals cost him 3-4 rings."
:roll: :roll:
"Kareem outplayed Wilt in the '72 WCF's."
:roll: :roll:
(Yeah right...EVERYONE who actually WATCHED that series, including the MILWAUKEE press and coach claimed that Wilt outplayed Kareem. BTW, TIME MAGAZINE hailed Wilt's performance as DECISIVELY OUTPLAYING Kareem in that SERIES.)
"Bird was more clutch than Wilt."
:roll: :roll:
"Hakeem is a better player than Chamberlain."
:roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
They are ALL True
[QUOTE=nightprowler10]Little known fact: soccer wasn't well known in America until Wilt kicked a ball out of his yard back to his neighbor's kid. The kid died from the impact of the ball, but Wilt is now in FIFA's hall of fame for helping with soccer's popularity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=asdf1990]I heard from a person whose friends cousins father saw wilt out run a cheetah while carrying 500 lbs of weight in each hand. Then he went back to the hotel and had sex with 6 women afterward to maintain his daily average to reach 20k women[/QUOTE]
:roll: :applause:
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]They are ALL True[/QUOTE]
ONLY in the Dunce and Dickwad universe.
[QUOTE=jlauber]ONLY in the Dunce and Dickwad universe.[/QUOTE]
Only in reality
Oh shit! Someone send out a search party for CavaliersFTW.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]I had good seats to one of the LA regular season games in the early 70's.
From my vantage point there was a slew of celebrities that had come to watch the game, I had been to other games before and we always tried to identify and count the celebrities at half-time. Anyways, believe it or not Chuck Norris attended this particular game.
A time out was called about 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter by a FUMING Sharmen because Wilt flat-out stopped playing basketball. He was just standing there blankly starring into the stands. I knew what was going on immediately and It sent chills down my spine. For the next 10 minutes I was very afraid....
Wilt had locked eyes with Chuck Norris and neither one of them was about to back down. Normally time out's are 30 seconds and play must resume but all it took was 15 seconds for everyone in the entire arena to realize the titanic personal battle that had begun. Wilt wasn't moving and Norris.. well you know.
[IMG]http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/chuck_will_kick_your_ass.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0310/nba_g_wilt11_576.jpg[/IMG]
The auditorium fell into complete silence - fans just collectively [I]knew[/I] any disturbance responsible for either Wilt or Norris's loss of concentration would be met with sudden death. Nearly 10 minutes pass before a universal paradox happened that to this day I can not fathom.
[I]Norris[/I] blinked first.
Whispers and shocked faces in the crowd instantly erupted but Chuck was just as quick to flash a panoramic gaze that seemed to envelop the entire arena in fear. The ref's, in their shared state of panic, blew their whistle's and continued the game to re-focus everyone's attention. Wilt and the Lakers resumed play - and with a smirk on his face Wilt scored Two-Hundred points in the final 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter and sat the rest of the game out to sleep with 17 women and take a seat next to a confused Norris to explain to him how to cope with losing. To this day no-one dare acknowledge that game. Everyone pretends it never happened because no one wants to acknowledge Chuck's defe.....[/QUOTE]
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This post deserves to be acknowledged. Well done sir.
Jlauber, you post essays of stats, but we rarely hear eyewitness accounts (in person or tv) of Wilt's "greatness." why is that?
Because it was forever ago? Is that a serious question?
[QUOTE=Horatio33]Jlauber, you post essays of stats, but we rarely hear eyewitness accounts (in person or tv) of Wilt's "greatness." why is that?[/QUOTE]
You're kidding right?
I could post page-after-page of quotes from peers. media, fans..you name it. And if you are referring to me, I SAW MANY of Chamberlain's games televised live, and even two of them in person. Both in the 72-73 season in Oakland.
I have said it before, but I watched a TON of Russell-Wilt matchups from the early 60's until their final game in game seven of the '69 Finals, and I never came away thinking that Russell had outplayed Chamberlain. Having said that, in the vast majority of them, Russell's teammates outplayed Wilt's. Russell deserved at least some of the credit, and while I find it hard to believe, perhaps Wilt deserved some of the blame.
In any case, there are some idiots out there, most noteably Bill Simmons, who had this insane perception that Russell "let" Wilt score, and then would "shut him down" in the 4th quarters. There was just too much evidence to the contrary. Furthermore, Russell's Celtics went 85-57 against Wilt's teams (and 29-20 in the playoffs), so it was not like Russell HOF-laden teams were beating Wilt's teams in every game. In fact, as I have said many times, Wilt was a total of NINE points, from having a 5-3 playoff edge in their post-season H2H's (losses in game seven's by margins of 2, 1, 4, and 2.) No one is going to convince me that Russell was THAT brilliant, that he could control a game to THAT degree (or that he could hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, with a one point lead...and KNOWING that "Havlicek would steal the ball" on the Sixers inbounds pass.)
And, IF Russell were truly a better player than Chamberlain, where are the games that prove it? I can show DOZENS of games in which Wilt CRUSHED Russell, both in losses, and in WINS (and yes, even in close games.) Finally, how about this example? In the clinching game five loss of the '66 ECF's, Wilt hung a 46 point, 34 rebound game on Russell (on 19-34 shooting.) The very next season, Russell was on the opposite side of that scenario. His Celtics had just narrowly avoided a sweep, and were down 3-1. How did Russell respond when his team desperately needed him to step up? He scored FOUR points (with 21 rebounds.) Meanwhile, Wilt poured in 29 points (22 in the first half when the game was still close), on 10-16 shooting, with 36 rebounds, 13 assists, and 7 blocks. If Russell were truly the better player, why couldn't he elevate his offense against Wilt when his teammates obviously needed him to?
I also saw the majority of the Kareem-Wilt battles, including all of the '72 WCF's. Kareem was the best player in the game by that point. He was at his absolute best, and was at his peak athletically. He would bulk up after that, and he would add some range to his offense, but he was never as quick, or as athletic as he was early on in his career.
Chamberlain was much stronger, of course, and used his weight to keep Kareem from positioning himself closer to the basket, BUT, it was Wilt's VERTICAL that limited Kareem's efficiency. Even at age 35, Chamberlain had a higher leap than a young Kareem.
And, as I have (and other's) have posted, Wilt was ROUTINELY blocking the "unblockable" skyhook. What was interesting was that I honestly believe that it was Nate Thurmond's defense against Kareem in their early H2H's that may have tipped Wilt on how to play Kareem. I am speculating, of course, but in the '72 regular season, Kareem had his greatest statistical regular season against Wilt. BTW, it was his ONLY regular season in which he shot 50% against Wilt (in his other three he shot .429, .438, and .450.)
Granted, some of Kareem's scoring in that '72 H2H regular season against Chamberlain was "stats-padding." For example, in his 50 point game against Wilt, Chameberlain's Lakers were comfortably in command throughout, and ran away with a 123-107 win. Furthermore, Kareem took 39 shots against him. And while Kareem was gunning all game long, Wilt was pounding him on the glass at both ends of the floor (a 25-8 edge in rebounding.)
However, after Thurmond OUTPLAYED Kareem in the '72 playoffs (Nate outscored and outshot Kareem), Wilt seem to body Kareem more. Wilt probably had the highest "straight-up" leap in NBA history, and it allowed him to literally stick to Kareem like glue, and yet still go straight up to challenge the skyhook. And, in the last four games of the '72 WCF's, Wilt held Kareem to .414 shooting (.457 overall), in a season in which Kareem shot .574. In fact, after an embarrassing first game loss, the Lakers won four of the last five games, including a 25 point annihilation in game five, and a come-from-behind clinching win in game six, in which Wilt dominated Kareem down the stretch.
And, if anything, Wilt was just as dominant against Kareem in the very next season (Wilt's LAST.) The two went H2H in six regular season games, and while Kareem outscored Wilt, per game, 29-11, Chameberlain outshot Kareem, .737 to .450. Included in those six games, was one game in which Wilt outscored Kareem, 24-21, while outshooting him, 10-14 to 10-27.
Interesting too, was the playoffs in that 72-73 season. Kareem's 60-22 Bucks were stunned by Nate's 47-35 Warriors, in a series in which Thurmond reduced Kareem to a .428 shooter (and once again, in the '71 playoffs, Nate not only outscored Kareem, per game, 25-23, he outshot Kareem in that series, .437 to .405.)
Then, in the WCF's, Wilt just murdered Thurmond, outrebounding him by a 23.6 to 17.2 rpg margin, and outshooting Nate by a .550 to .398 margin. And, Wilt's 60-22 Lakers just slapped Nate's Warriors, 4-1, including a game three blowout in Oakland of 126-70, in a game that I attended. Wilt badly outrebounded Nate in that game, and while I don't recall the numbers, Wilt blocked a ton of shots.
Of course, unlike the Russell-Wilt battles, we never saw a PRIME Wilt battle a prime Kareem. The closest example we had was their very first meeting, when Kareem was a rookie, and Wilt was in his 11th season. In that game, Wilt pounded Kareem in every aspect of that game, outscoring him, 25-23; outrebounding him, 25-20; outassisting him, 5-2; outblocking him, 3-2; and outshooting him, 9-14 to 9-21 (.643 to .429.)
In fact, very few fans know this, but that game was one of Wilt's first nine games in that 69-70 season. Wilt's new coach, Joe Mullaney, had asked Wilt to focus on the offensive end before the season started, and a rejuvenated Wilt came out on fire. He was leading the league at 32.2 ppg, (on .600 shooting with 20 rpg), when he shredded his knee in that ninth game (in game in which he had scored 33 points on 13-13 shooting.) Now, keep in mind that rookie Kareem averaged 28.8 ppg on .518 shooting that season. We will never know, of course, but Wilt was perhaps on his way to his eighth scoring title.
In any case, while Kareem would go on to become an even greater player, that was also not a PRIME Wilt, either. And from those here that actually saw Wilt perform in his career, it seems to be a consensus that a prime Wilt would have certainly scored much more against Kareem, than the OLD Wilt, who was playing on a surgically repaired knee in 27 of their last 28 H2H's.
BTW, more-and-more VIDEO footage of Chamberlain is being released, and we are now getting confirmation on what us "old-timers" knew all along. Wilt was an incredible athlete, with perhaps the highest REACH in NBA history (we have VIDEO footage of a Wilt block in which his fingertips are within a couple of inches of the top of the backboard), with a solid range of 15+ ft, which included a WIDE array of moves. And, of course, the "myths" that Wilt only played against 6-6 white centers was blown to bits a long time ago.
[QUOTE=mrpibb]Because it was forever ago? Is that a serious question?[/QUOTE]
People are pushing jlauber's buttons so he gets mad and posts more walls of text, its hilarious actually :roll:
[QUOTE=dunksby]People are pushing jlauber's buttons so he gets mad and posts more walls of text, its hilarious actually :roll:[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine how the guy is IRL? HAHA, poor wife and kids, the old fart is 56 years old and he's obsessed with a basketball player...:facepalm
Must be both a sad and hilarious view to watch this guy in action, while his wife asks for his company he'll tell her, "NO, I AM DEFENDING WILT ON THE NET!"..
[IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091220211954/uncyclopedia/images/c/c2/Old-man-computer.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=millwad]Can you imagine how the guy is IRL? HAHA, poor wife and kids, the old fart is 56 years old and he's obsessed with a basketball player...:facepalm
Must be both a sad and hilarious view to watch this guy in action, while his wife asks for his company he'll tell her, "NO, I AM DEFENDING WILT ON THE NET!"..
[IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091220211954/uncyclopedia/images/c/c2/Old-man-computer.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
And if you have one what do you tell her about wasting your time obssessing over Wilt?
I am sure you could be doing better things than worrying about Wilt, right?
[QUOTE=jlauber]You're kidding right?
I could post page-after-page of quotes from peers. media, fans..you name it. And if you are referring to me, I SAW MANY of Chamberlain's games televised live, and even two of them in person. Both in the 72-73 season in Oakland.
I have said it before, but I watched a TON of Russell-Wilt matchups from the early 60's until their final game in game seven of the '69 Finals, and I never came away thinking that Russell had outplayed Chamberlain. Having said that, in the vast majority of them, Russell's teammates outplayed Wilt's. Russell deserved at least some of the credit, and while I find it hard to believe, perhaps Wilt deserved some of the blame.
In any case, there are some idiots out there, most noteably Bill Simmons, who had this insane perception that Russell "let" Wilt score, and then would "shut him down" in the 4th quarters. There was just too much evidence to the contrary. Furthermore, Russell's Celtics went 85-57 against Wilt's teams (and 29-20 in the playoffs), so it was not like Russell HOF-laden teams were beating Wilt's teams in every game. In fact, as I have said many times, Wilt was a total of NINE points, from having a 5-3 playoff edge in their post-season H2H's (losses in game seven's by margins of 2, 1, 4, and 2.) No one is going to convince me that Russell was THAT brilliant, that he could control a game to THAT degree (or that he could hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, with a one point lead...and KNOWING that "Havlicek would steal the ball" on the Sixers inbounds pass.)
And, IF Russell were truly a better player than Chamberlain, where are the games that prove it? I can show DOZENS of games in which Wilt CRUSHED Russell, both in losses, and in WINS (and yes, even in close games.) Finally, how about this example? In the clinching game five loss of the '66 ECF's, Wilt hung a 46 point, 34 rebound game on Russell (on 19-34 shooting.) The very next season, Russell was on the opposite side of that scenario. His Celtics had just narrowly avoided a sweep, and were down 3-1. How did Russell respond when his team desperately needed him to step up? He scored FOUR points (with 21 rebounds.) Meanwhile, Wilt poured in 29 points (22 in the first half when the game was still close), on 10-16 shooting, with 36 rebounds, 13 assists, and 7 blocks. If Russell were truly the better player, why couldn't he elevate his offense against Wilt when his teammates obviously needed him to?
I also saw the majority of the Kareem-Wilt battles, including all of the '72 WCF's. Kareem was the best player in the game by that point. He was at his absolute best, and was at his peak athletically. He would bulk up after that, and he would add some range to his offense, but he was never as quick, or as athletic as he was early on in his career.
Chamberlain was much stronger, of course, and used his weight to keep Kareem from positioning himself closer to the basket, BUT, it was Wilt's VERTICAL that limited Kareem's efficiency. Even at age 35, Chamberlain had a higher leap than a young Kareem.
And, as I have (and other's) have posted, Wilt was ROUTINELY blocking the "unblockable" skyhook. What was interesting was that I honestly believe that it was Nate Thurmond's defense against Kareem in their early H2H's that may have tipped Wilt on how to play Kareem. I am speculating, of course, but in the '72 regular season, Kareem had his greatest statistical regular season against Wilt. BTW, it was his ONLY regular season in which he shot 50% against Wilt (in his other three he shot .429, .438, and .450.)
Granted, some of Kareem's scoring in that '72 H2H regular season against Chamberlain was "stats-padding." For example, in his 50 point game against Wilt, Chameberlain's Lakers were comfortably in command throughout, and ran away with a 123-107 win. Furthermore, Kareem took 39 shots against him. And while Kareem was gunning all game long, Wilt was pounding him on the glass at both ends of the floor (a 25-8 edge in rebounding.)
However, after Thurmond OUTPLAYED Kareem in the '72 playoffs (Nate outscored and outshot Kareem), Wilt seem to body Kareem more. Wilt probably had the highest "straight-up" leap in NBA history, and it allowed him to literally stick to Kareem like glue, and yet still go straight up to challenge the skyhook. And, in the last four games of the '72 WCF's, Wilt held Kareem to .414 shooting (.457 overall), in a season in which Kareem shot .574. In fact, after an embarrassing first game loss, the Lakers won four of the last five games, including a 25 point annihilation in game five, and a come-from-behind clinching win in game six, in which Wilt dominated Kareem down the stretch.
And, if anything, Wilt was just as dominant against Kareem in the very next season (Wilt's LAST.) The two went H2H in six regular season games, and while Kareem outscored Wilt, per game, 29-11, Chameberlain outshot Kareem, .737 to .450. Included in those six games, was one game in which Wilt outscored Kareem, 24-21, while outshooting him, 10-14 to 10-27.
Interesting too, was the playoffs in that 72-73 season. Kareem's 60-22 Bucks were stunned by Nate's 47-35 Warriors, in a series in which Thurmond reduced Kareem to a .428 shooter (and once again, in the '71 playoffs, Nate not only outscored Kareem, per game, 25-23, he outshot Kareem in that series, .437 to .405.)
Then, in the WCF's, Wilt just murdered Thurmond, outrebounding him by a 23.6 to 17.2 rpg margin, and outshooting Nate by a .550 to .398 margin. And, Wilt's 60-22 Lakers just slapped Nate's Warriors, 4-1, including a game three blowout in Oakland of 126-70, in a game that I attended. Wilt badly outrebounded Nate in that game, and while I don't recall the numbers, Wilt blocked a ton of shots.
Of course, unlike the Russell-Wilt battles, we never saw a PRIME Wilt battle a prime Kareem. The closest example we had was their very first meeting, when Kareem was a rookie, and Wilt was in his 11th season. In that game, Wilt pounded Kareem in every aspect of that game, outscoring him, 25-23; outrebounding him, 25-20; outassisting him, 5-2; outblocking him, 3-2; and outshooting him, 9-14 to 9-21 (.643 to .429.)
In fact, very few fans know this, but that game was one of Wilt's first nine games in that 69-70 season. Wilt's new coach, Joe Mullaney, had asked Wilt to focus on the offensive end before the season started, and a rejuvenated Wilt came out on fire. He was leading the league at 32.2 ppg, (on .600 shooting with 20 rpg), when he shredded his knee in that ninth game (in game in which he had scored 33 points on 13-13 shooting.) Now, keep in mind that rookie Kareem averaged 28.8 ppg on .518 shooting that season. We will never know, of course, but Wilt was perhaps on his way to his eighth scoring title.
In any case, while Kareem would go on to become an even greater player, that was also not a PRIME Wilt, either. And from those here that actually saw Wilt perform in his career, it seems to be a consensus that a prime Wilt would have certainly scored much more against Kareem, than the OLD Wilt, who was playing on a surgically repaired knee in 27 of their last 28 H2H's.
BTW, more-and-more VIDEO footage of Chamberlain is being released, and we are now getting confirmation on what us "old-timers" knew all along. Wilt was an incredible athlete, with perhaps the highest REACH in NBA history (we have VIDEO footage of a Wilt block in which his fingertips are within a couple of inches of the top of the backboard), with a solid range of 15+ ft, which included a WIDE array of moves. And, of course, the "myths" that Wilt only played against 6-6 white centers was blown to bits a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
Question, who do you think is the GOAT?
[QUOTE=32jazz]And if you have one what do you tell her about wasting your time obssessing over Wilt?
I am sure you could be doing better things than worrying about Wilt, right?[/QUOTE]
I have a girlfriend actually and only 1/10 of every post I've written over these 5 years I've been here has been about Wilt. And I average 1.6 posts per day..
And what about you sucking up for Jlauber, the best u can do?..:facepalm
[QUOTE=-23-]Question, who do you think is the GOAT?[/QUOTE]
I actually have refined it down to FOUR players. Russell, who had 11 rings, and many at Wilt's expense, BUT, with much better rosters and teammates who played much better than Wilt's (and yet Wilt still nearly beat him in four game seven's. Then MJ, who was the game's greatest post-season scorer (but he didn't win until he had the best rosters in the league...take a look at the 92-93 and 93-94 seasons.) Magic, ELEVATED his teams to championship level, and who, even without Kareem won a game six title, and had seasons of 63-19 and 58-24 (and a trip to the Finals), and who before he arrived, and immediately after he retired, left LA with the same record as when he arrived. And, then Wilt, who was not only the greatest statistical player of all-time, and by a HUGE margin, but who was, at WORST, the second greatest PLAYOFF performer of all-time. And, not only did he put up MASSIVE numbers in the post-season, he either outplayed, or downright DOMINATED his opposing centers in virtually EVERY one of his 29 post-season series.
After that, I have Kareem.
Then Shaq with a slight edge over Duncan.
Then a big drop-off to either Kobe or Bird (although Kobe will most certainly retire ahead of him.)
Then, either Hakeem or Moses.
One day Lebron may surpass all but my top-four or five.
[QUOTE=millwad]I have a girlfriend actually and only 1/10 of every post I've written over these 5 years I've been here has been about Wilt. And I average 1.6 posts per day..
And what about you sucking up for Jlauber, the best u can do?..:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Then wouldn't' your time be better served worrying about your girlfriend & spending time with her than worrying about Wilt or specific posters here?
Because I thoroughly enjoy Jlauber's informative post & get sick of losers hijacking the threads with petty UNinformative b.s.. I have learned a lot about Wilt through the guy.
If you don't believe the posts or have facts to disprove it why waste time?:confusedshrug: I don't get it.
The man may be a retiree who has extra time on his hands.
I think JLauber isn't 56. I reckon he's in his late teens/early twenties, thinks if he says he is older, his arguements hold more water. No proof of his age. All he does is pull stats out.
[QUOTE=Horatio33]I think JLauber isn't 56. I reckon he's in his late teens/early twenties, thinks if he says he is older, his arguements hold more water. No proof of his age. [B]All he does is pull stats out[/B].[/QUOTE]
GTFO!
I have produced TONS of QUOTES from peers, coach's, media members, and respected sports icons. I have produced VIDEO footage (and more and more is becoming available.) I have produced NEWSPAPER articles. MAGAZINE articles. GAME RECAPS. Just what in the hell more can I do? I can't transport the "anti-Wilt" clan, like yourself, back to the 60's, ...and even if I did, and you saw it with your own eyes, you guys would STILL dispute it.
What is also interesting is that there are now a number of posters here who actually SAW Chamberlain play. La Frescobaldi, Helix, CavalierFan, and myself. Virtually ALL of us believe that Wilt was the best we ever saw. And I am not sure about Pslieas, and Gotterdamn, either. Then, we have EDUCATED posters, who have seen FOOTAGE (some of which the rest of us have not...Pointguard being one), or produced a TON of information, like Pointguard, Psileas, and PHILA...and here again, those guys rank Chamberlain at either at the top, or very near it.
I haven't read one poster who here who actually saw Chamberlain play, that has ripped him. (And BTW, Bill Simmons NEVER saw Chamberlain play, either. He was born in 1969.)
And one more damned time...there are HUNDREDS of eye-witness accounts, by the players, coaches, members of the media, and fans, which chronicle Wilt's amazing physical feats. BUT, where are the LEGITIMATE sources that were around in the Wilt-era that DISPUTE them?
Don't you think that SOMEONE would have witnessed Wilt attempting to touch the top of the backboard, and failing? Or working out with Chamberlain, and disputing the claims of 500+ lb bench presses? Why?
[QUOTE=Horatio33]I think JLauber isn't 56. I reckon he's in his late teens/early twenties, thinks if he says he is older, his arguements hold more water. No proof of his age. All he does is pull stats out.[/QUOTE]
Naaah, read his post... you can tell he experienced the times because he knows the ins and outs too well. He is one of the best conceptual posters around here. He ties in the stats with what was happening. He remembers different rules and little guys that stepped up and did big things. His stats back him up. He uses stats.
[QUOTE=jlauber]I actually have refined it down to FOUR players. Russell, who had 11 rings, and many at Wilt's expense, BUT, with much better rosters and teammates who played much better than Wilt's (and yet Wilt still nearly beat him in four game seven's. Then MJ, who was the game's greatest post-season scorer (but he didn't win until he had the best rosters in the league...take a look at the 92-93 and 93-94 seasons.) Magic, ELEVATED his teams to championship level, and who, even without Kareem won a game six title, and had seasons of 63-19 and 58-24 (and a trip to the Finals), and who before he arrived, and immediately after he retired, left LA with the same record as when he arrived. And, then Wilt, who was not only the greatest statistical player of all-time, and by a HUGE margin, but who was, at WORST, the second greatest PLAYOFF performer of all-time. And, not only did he put up MASSIVE numbers in the post-season, he either outplayed, or downright DOMINATED his opposing centers in virtually EVERY one of his 29 post-season series.
After that, I have Kareem.
Then Shaq with a slight edge over Duncan.
Then a big drop-off to either Kobe or Bird (although Kobe will most certainly retire ahead of him.)
Then, either Hakeem or Moses.
One day Lebron may surpass all but my top-four or five.[/QUOTE]
Wilt is about 9th alltime
He hasn't won as much as the other greats and choked too much
And I don't care about the stats you're about to post in that weak era
He's the greatest Laker of all-time. Deal with it.
Wilt "owned" Kareem
So, Deuce, what do you do on this board other than attack players?
[QUOTE=mrpibb]He's the greatest Laker of all-time. Deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Magic, Kobe, Shaq, West and Jabbar says hi:no:
[QUOTE=mrpibb]So, Deuce, what do you do on this board other than attack players?[/QUOTE]
who do I attack?
[QUOTE=millwad]Magic, Kobe, Shaq, West and Jabbar says hi:no:[/QUOTE]
Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]who do I attack?[/QUOTE]
Lebron and Wilt. All the god damn time.
[QUOTE=millwad]Magic, Kobe, Shaq, West and Jabbar says hi:no:[/QUOTE]
LMAO did he say WIlt was the greatest laker?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=mrpibb]Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.
Lebron and Wilt. All the god damn time.[/QUOTE]
Johnson
Bryant
O'Neal
Abdul-Jabbar
West
Chamberlain
6th best Laker
And I don't attack either of those players, just telling it like it is
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Asukal]Hahahaha 20,000 women? You gota bang at least 5-6 a day everyday to make that number. No man is able to do such a thing puhleaz! :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
You failed miserably at math.......2nd grade must be very hard for you huh.
I was very fortunate....and wild when I was young. I had 4-6 different girls in a day several times myself. I also had a weekend where I had sex over 50 times in a weekend with my girlfriend....at my age today I'm lucky if I can perform 4 times in a weekend :oldlol: So given what I know about the opportunities that even an average pro athlete has......there is absolutely no question that Wilt could've easily gone well over 20,000 women.
Sh!t was crazy before HIV came into the world. Stopped "Players" in their tracks.
[QUOTE=mrpibb]:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Johnson - 5 titles, 3 finals MVPs, 3 MVPs, #1 in assists
Bryant - 5 titles, 2 finals MVPs, 1 MVP, #1 in points
Abdul-Jabbar - 5 titles, 1 finals MVP, 4 MVPs, #1 in rebounding, #1 in blocks
O'Neal - 3 titles, 3 finals MVPs, 1 MVP
West - 1 title, 1 finals MVP, # 2 in points
Chamberlain - 1 title, 1 Finals MVP, [B]Not[/B] top 3 in any category
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Johnson
Bryant
O'Neal
Abdul-Jabbar
West
Chamberlain
6th best Laker
And I don't attack either of those players, just telling it like it is[/QUOTE]
Shaq has no business being above West or Kareem....are you kidding me???
Wilt is only lower because he didn't start out with the Lakers.
Don't forget Baylor.....I have him over Shaq too.