Lebron's defense is overrated...

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Were I reading anything I found upsetting id just delete the topic. I assure you nobody would do anything to stop it. I could probably take a moment to figure out who you are each time and delete everything you said and not get so much as PM asking why. You must have been banned 12-15 times by now. People like you have who no purpose but to push a single idea(Be it anti Dwight or Lebron or whoever at the moment) are the worst thing that ever happened to online sports discussion. You exist to create arguments on tired subjects often just remaking the same topics over and over.

What good could come of it?

Really?

What use does this board have for a Lebron topic of any kind in fact? Or Kobe?

Why on earth are people like you still making these endless repeat topics?[/QUOTE]

In his face
:roll:

Why don't you stop making threads?:facepalm

yup, Lebron is such a horrible defender that reigning league "MVP" could only muster like 5% shooting in the 4th quarters of playoff series against him...:confusedshrug:

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OP's got issues. Like, serious issues.

Has anyone noticed that probably 90% of the Lebron threads are created by his critics and "haters"? His actual fans (and homers) make very few threads about him comparatively.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]
Why on earth are people like you still making these endless repeat topics?[/QUOTE]


Life is an endless repeat topic.

-Smak

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Were I reading anything I found upsetting id just delete the topic. I assure you nobody would do anything to stop it. I could probably take a moment to figure out who you are each time and delete everything you said and not get so much as PM asking why. You must have been banned 12-15 times by now. People like you have who no purpose but to push a single idea(Be it anti Dwight or Lebron or whoever at the moment) are the worst thing that ever happened to online sports discussion. You exist to create arguments on tired subjects often just remaking the same topics over and over.

What good could come of it?

Really?

What use does this board have for a Lebron topic of any kind in fact? Or Kobe?

Why on earth are people like you still making these endless repeat topics?[/QUOTE]
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[quote=iDefend5]lets be real here.

The Heat's defense last season in 2010-2011 was the same statistically as it was in the 2009-2010 season. People need to stop acting as if the Heat became this powerhouse defensive team because of him. They have always been a powerhouse defensive team since Spolestra was the coach.

I honestly think when both Wade and Lebron are going all out defensively, Wade is actually the superior defender. Lebron is more consistent though so I have to give props to him but he is not as great of a defender as most people say.

That is all.[/quote]

lebron >> you

There are ways it can be overrated, but not to some of the extent your talking about.

That is all.

the guy thinks that Lebron's defense is overrated .. so what?

some people have no purpose but defending Lebron .. calm down

don't get you're panties all in a bunch


''a low self esteem prostitute who wishes to see much more women engaged in prostitution''

that's Lebron and his jockers

Lebron is the prostitute of the NBA
his jockers are the prostitutes of ISH

[QUOTE=iDefend5]Exactly, he gets 100% of the credit for guarding Rose even though he did it for like 3 minutes? What about the other times when he was sucking? It's not like Rose only sucked when Lebron was on him. People act as if what Lebron did to Rose was what Kobe did to Westbrook in the 2010 playoffs, not similar, not similar at all.[/QUOTE]

It's people who know nothing about basketball, so what do you expect? The Heat did to Rose what Boston did to Lebron, team D, not hard to understand at all if you know the game. But the Lebronytes ALWAYS have to overhype everything that's Lebron to make him look good. If he did "shut down" people all the time, I'd give him the credit he deserves. This is my biggest problem with them running their mouths about how the Heat will beat the Bulls in a rematch this year. They're all banking on Lebron having the same success against Rose. Honestly, I think they're all in for a very rude awakening.

[QUOTE=jlip]Has anyone noticed that probably 90% of the Lebron threads are created by his critics and "haters"? His actual fans (and homers) make very few threads about him comparatively.[/QUOTE]

Works both ways, bro. Works both ways:no:

[QUOTE=zizozain]the guy thinks that Lebron's defense is overrated .. so what?

some people have no purpose but defending Lebron .. calm down

don't get you're panties all in a bunch


''a low self esteem prostitute who wishes to see much more women engaged in prostitution''

that's Lebron and his jockers

Lebron is the prostitute of the NBA
his jockers are the prostitutes of ISH[/QUOTE]

Why is this basterd still here?
Ban this guy and his other account too

[QUOTE=arifgokcen]Why is this basterd still here?
Ban this guy and his other account too[/QUOTE]
What other account? Winwin? :lol they both always say that stupid prostitute line :facepalm

[QUOTE=madmax]yup, Lebron is such a horrible defender that reigning league "MVP" could only muster like 5% shooting in the 4th quarters of playoff series against him...:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
:roll: The IQ of LeBron fans.

Where did anyone say it was horrible?

from 82games.com

the miami defense with lebron on the floor; 99.4 points per possession

the miami defense with lebron off the floor; 105.5 points per possession

to put this in perspective, with him on the floor, they are the 5th best defense

with him on the bench, they are 21st on defense

the stats back up, what should be obvious to anybody watching the heat on defense. Lebron is a great defensive player

and as always; RG is a phagg0t

I was watching some clips of the 2011 Finals earlier this morning and I noticed two things.

1. The Heat had a lead midway through the 4th quarter in every game. We all know who didn't show up in the 4th quarter.

2. LeBron basically hung out in near the 3-point arc majority of the time, not just offensively but defensively as well.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqoG9jR3uw[/url] Check out the 5:10 mark. It took Dirk about 2 or 3 seconds to actually released the shot. LeBron was just two steps away from him. He could have tried to go for a block but he just stood there and watch Dirk stroke the jumper.

He's a good defender but just not in the playoffs against good teams.

[QUOTE=DMV2][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqoG9jR3uw[/url] Check out the 5:10 mark. It took Dirk about 2 or 3 seconds to actually released the shot. LeBron was just two steps away from him. He could have tried to go for a block but he just stood there and watch Dirk stroke the jumper.[/QUOTE]

So he should have abandoned jason terry at the 3pt line? with nobody in position to rotate onto jet?

that was haslem's fault for not fighting through the screen, or bosh's fault for not switching, whatever the strategy was.

looks like haslems fault to me.

[QUOTE=chips93]from 82games.com

the miami defense with lebron on the floor; 99.4 points per possession

the miami defense with lebron off the floor; 105.5 points per possession

to put this in perspective, with him on the floor, they are the 5th best defense

with him on the bench, they are 21st on defense

the stats back up, what should be obvious to anybody watching the heat on defense. Lebron is a great defensive player

and as always; RG is a phagg0t[/QUOTE]
Heat - 6th in defense in 2009-2010
Heat - 5th in defense in 2010-2011.

Good job, Irish pha[COLOR="Black"]gg[/COLOR]ot. Did you ever learn how to use the shift key?

You aren't even from America a.k.a a real and superior country, just some shitty country where drunks are from.

Why is anyone suppose to take you seriously again?


Next.

the OP gotta Celtics players on his avy and said LeBron is an overrated defender:lol

All of Paul Pierce's worst playoffs series were against a team featuring LeBron James. Coincident?

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]the OP gotta Celtics players on his avy and said LeBron is an overrated defender:lol

All of Paul Pierce's worst playoffs series were against a team featuring LeBron James. Coincident?[/QUOTE]
Excellent point. How did Paul Pierce do in that Game 7 against LeBron James in 2008?


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[QUOTE=chips93]So he should have abandoned jason terry at the 3pt line? with nobody in position to rotate onto jet?

that was haslem's fault for not fighting through the screen, or bosh's fault for not switching, whatever the strategy was.

looks like haslems fault to me.[/QUOTE]:oldlol: Yeah, it's so easy fighting through a screen defended by a 7-footer.

LeBron didn't have to leave Terry until Dirk motioned for his shot. LeBron didn't even do anything, he just stood there. Plus, Terry was three feet away from the 3-point arc too. His 3 would have been a lot harder than Dirk's.

LOL, it's not LeBron's fault even if he just stands there motionless watching the ball.

[QUOTE=iDefend5]Excellent point. How did Paul Pierce do in that Game 7 against LeBron James in 2008?


:roll:[/QUOTE]

and LeBron still outscored him :rolleyes:

LeBron wasnt even defending Pierce in most of Pierce's attempts made. :rolleyes:

Why hasn't a lebron supporter answered wockavodkas question? If lebron this great defender, how do you explain what terry and marion did to him? Marion called him a [B]BITCH[/B]. Terry said james can't guard him. They were calling him out.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]and LeBron still outscored him :rolleyes:

LeBron wasnt even defending Pierce in most of Pierce's shots. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: So what was the point of you bringing it up?

Some monkey: Hey, LeBron always shuts down Pierce

Me: Really? How well did LeBron defend Pierce in that game 7 in 2008 playoffs?

Some monkey: He didn't even guard him. :rolleyes:

Lebron outscored by 4 points and shot under way worse efficiency. It's understandable why most Lebron fans are dumb, and it is because they're black.

[QUOTE]:oldlol: Yeah, it's so easy fighting through a screen defended by a 7-footer.[/QUOTE]

what? seriously, re-watch haslem 'fighting' through that screen, he should have gotten through it.

he was indecisive and tried to push through him, rather than either follow dirk, or cheat on it.

he didn neither and got burned

a simple down screen shouldnt require a help defender.

[QUOTE]LeBron didn't have to leave Terry until Dirk motioned for his shot. LeBron didn't even do anything, he just stood there. Plus, Terry was three feet away from the 3-point arc too. His 3 would have been a lot harder than Dirk's.[/QUOTE]

so, lets say lebron leaves terry as dirk motions for his shot (firstly, if he leaves that late, he doesnt stand a chance at contesting), dirk is gonna notice that he has two players running at him, and swing it to a wide open terry, who steps into a three. a much easier shot than dirk actually took in real life.

[QUOTE]LOL, it's not LeBron's fault even if he just stands there motionless watching the ball.[/QUOTE]

there is such a thing as over-helping you know

[QUOTE=iDefend5]Heat - 6th in defense in 2009-2010
Heat - 5th in defense in 2010-2011.

Good job, Irish pha[COLOR="Black"]gg[/COLOR]ot. Did you ever learn how to use the shift key?

You aren't even from America a.k.a a real and superior country, just some shitty country where drunks are from.

Why is anyone suppose to take you seriously again?


Next.[/QUOTE]

ouch

RG so mad :lol

[QUOTE=iDefend5]:oldlol: So what was the point of you bringing it up?

Some monkey: Hey, LeBron always shuts down Pierce

Me: Really? How well did LeBron defend Pierce in that game 7 in 2008 playoffs?

Some monkey: He didn't even guard him. :rolleyes:

Lebron outscored by 4 points and shot under way worse efficiency. It's understandable why most Lebron fans are dumb, [B]and it is because they're black.[/B][/QUOTE]
Lol what does their racial background have to do with it?

[QUOTE=iDefend5]:oldlol: So what was the point of you bringing it up?

Some monkey: Hey, LeBron always shuts down Pierce

Me: Really? How well did LeBron defend Pierce in that game 7 in 2008 playoffs?

Some monkey: He didn't even guard him. :rolleyes:

Lebron outscored by 4 points and shot under way worse efficiency. It's understandable why most Lebron fans are dumb, and it is because they're black.[/QUOTE]

Dude had most of his points from transition threes and picks which made the undersized Delonte West guard him or someone else.

nice job proving to me that Pierce had 3 of his worst series against the Cavs in 08 and 2010 and the Heat last year.

dummy

[QUOTE=97 bulls]Lol what does their racial background have to do with it?[/QUOTE]

RG is edging towards another meltdown

[QUOTE=chips93]RG is edging towards another meltdown[/QUOTE]

i'm tell you man.

someone needs to take this kid to a strip club or take him outside or something. He has NO life.

He needs to get himself some p[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ssy

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]Dude had most of his points from transition threes and picks which made the undersized Delonte West guard him or someone else.

nice job proving to me that Pierce had 3 of his worst series against the Cavs in 08 and 2010 and the Heat last year.

dummy[/QUOTE]
You didn't answer me, how did Pierce do against LeBron in that Game 7 in 2008 playoffs? Oh yeah, he out dueled him and won the game and the series.

Next.

[QUOTE=chips93]So he should have abandoned jason terry at the 3pt line?[/QUOTE]

yes. Dirk was shotting a fcuking WIDE open 3

and lebron was the only player could defed it .. he chose not to

LOW BB IQ

[QUOTE=zizozain]yes. Dirk was shotting a fcuking WIDE open 3

and lebron was the only player could defed it .. he chose not to

LOW BB IQ[/QUOTE]

ive already explained who missed the defensive assignment on that play, earlier in this thread.

it shouldnt be hard to find.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]i'm tell you man.

someone needs to take this kid to a strip club or take him outside or something. He has NO life.

He needs to get himself some p[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ssy[/QUOTE]

just some weed first, calm his ass down

[QUOTE=iDefend5]You didn't answer me, how did Pierce do against LeBron in that Game 7 in 2008 playoffs? Oh yeah, he out dueled him and won the game and the series.

Next.[/QUOTE]

I told you he outscored him. Learn to read. :hammerhead:
Lebron had 45 on 48% shooting is nothing special? :rolleyes:
why the hell did the series even go to 7 in the first place?

How did Pierce handled LeBron in 2011?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rxU9s2TqDc[/url]

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]I told you he outscored him. Learn to read. :hammerhead:
Lebron had 45 on 48% shooting is nothing special? :rolleyes:
why the hell did the series even go to 7 in the first place?

How did Pierce handled LeBron in 2011?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rxU9s2TqDc[/url][/QUOTE]

What was Pierce's shooting %? Higher or lower than 48%?

Also how did Pierce and Lebron do at the FT line and 3 pt line

Please tell me.


Let me check, LOL, 57% shooting, yeah Pierce owned that overrated defender LeBron.

[QUOTE=iDefend5]You didn't answer me, how did Pierce do against LeBron in that Game 7 in 2008 playoffs? Oh yeah, he out dueled him and won the game and the series.

Next.[/QUOTE]

this is the stupidest shit I have heard ever. You think someone is gonna shut down an all star level player every game.. This is the NBA its not high school or college basketball where 90% of the players suck balls. These players are the best in the world and you think in order for someone to be a great defender they have to shut down players in every single game.. lebron shut down the best player on the other team for majority of the series thats better than what 99% of the SF's in the NBA could do.

The most overrated defender of the decade.
He is not even a better defender than Durant.

Lebron is on top, Durant is on bottom.
Stats prove Durant is light years better.
[IMG]http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9164/durantvslebron.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=asdf1990]this is the stupidest shit I have heard ever. You think someone is gonna shut down an all star level player every game.. This is the NBA its not high school or college basketball where 90% of the players suck balls. These players are the best in the world and you think in order for someone to be a great defender they have to shut down players in every single game.. lebron shut down the best player on the other team for majority of the series thats better than what 99% of the SF's in the NBA could do.[/QUOTE]


Yeah Lebron is an unclutch defender. I would love to have Lebron defend my best perimeter player in clutch games and moments cause I know my guy would destroy him. :oldlol: