Anthropomorphic Measurement of NBA bigmen 60s/70s vs Modern NBA era

[QUOTE=Punpun]So many butthurt guys. I'm still waiting for your concrete proof of what you are blaberring. ELse it's just libel.[/QUOTE]


Here is a good read for you:

[url]http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/track_and_field/[/url]

Time to get your head out of the sand.

Libel. Libel everywhere. And that's a strawman too. As roids or not, the perf are better.

[QUOTE=Punpun]Libel. Libel everywhere. And that's a strawman too. As roids or not, the perf are better.[/QUOTE]


Read the article. It's not libel when the athletes are routinely failing drug tests. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Punpun]Libel. Libel everywhere. And that's a strawman too. As roids or not, the perf are better.[/QUOTE]


So libel, Justin Gatlin was banned for it.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/11/AR2010051103527.html[/url]

:coleman:

Meanwhile...here is what Bob Hayes had to deal with in the '64 Olympics...

[QUOTE] First, he won the 100m and broke the current World Record in the 100 m with a time of 10.06 seconds, [B]even though he was running in lane 1 which had, the day before, been used for the 10 km racewalk and this badly [COLOR="DarkRed"]chewed up the cinder track[/COLOR][/B]. [COLOR="DarkRed"]He also was running in borrowed spikes because one of his shoes had been kicked under the bed when he was playing with some friends and he didn't realize until he got there[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=jlauber]Meanwhile...here is what Bob Hayes had to deal with in the '64 Olympics...[/QUOTE]

He may have well ran faster than that if modern timing devices were in place back then.

Oh my god. You guys are mentals. :yaohappy:

This just in. A ****** who couldn't even breka the 10s was actually better than Bolt.

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Punpun]Oh my god. You guys are mentals. :yaohappy:

This just in. A ****** who couldn't even breka the 10s was actually better than Bolt.

:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

Put Bolt in the same circumstances...with shoes that don't fit, and on a track with trenches in it, and let's see him run a 9.59.

BTW, (and 32Jazz mentioned this already)...

Bob Beamon long jumped 29' 2" in 1968. That mark stood until Mike Powell barely broke it in 1991, with a leap of 29' 4"...

which is STILL the record TODAY.

So, in 44 years we have seen the long jump record increase by TWO INCHES (and that was set over 20 years ago.)

[QUOTE=Punpun]Oh my god. You guys are mentals. :yaohappy:

This just in. A ****** who couldn't even breka the 10s was actually better than Bolt.

:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]


Bolt is NOT the norm, he is the exception. Just like Bob Beamon was when he set the long jump record that stood for 20+ years until Powell ( an early 1990's long jumper) broke it, and i believe it still stands.

:biggums:

You guys are trolls. This discussion proves it. You might be some of the greatest troll out there. Dat ****ing routine. :yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Punpun]Oh my god. You guys are mentals. :yaohappy:

This just in. A ****** who couldn't even breka the 10s was actually better than Bolt.

:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

Name me a better sprinter/long jumper than Carl Lewis was in the 80's....

:coleman:

The 80's were 20 years after the 60's. :yaohappy:

Put peak Bob Hayes or Jimmy Hines in 00's, give them the best nutrition, medicine, medical technology (to prevent and overcome injuries), with much better techniques and training that have been learned in the last 50 years, with better and lighter shoes, and MUCH better track surfaces...and does anyone think they would still be running 9.95's?

[QUOTE=Punpun]The 80's were 20 years after the 60's. :yaohappy:[/QUOTE]


Is this the first time you've heard of Bullet Bob Hayes??

:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Punpun]The 80's were 20 years after the 60's. :yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

And here we are in 2012, 24 years since Carl Lewis's prime, and their still isn't a better olympic athlete than he was.

Just like there isn't a better 2-guard than Jordan, or point guard than Magic, or a more skilled center than Hakeem.

:coleman:

[QUOTE=bwink23]Is this the first time you've heard of Bullet Bob Hayes??

:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

And to add to that...

Hayes ran a 10.06 100 meters in 1964. Which is STILL the fastest EVER by a LEGITIMATE NFL player.

Darrell Green, in the early 80's, ran a 10.08. (Incidently, and as a sidenote...Green just turned 50 a few months ago...and promptly went out and ran, get this... a 4.43 40!)

[QUOTE=jlauber]And to add to that...

Hayes ran a 10.06 100 meters in 1964. Which is STILL the fastest EVER by a LEGITIMATE NFL player.

Darrell Green, in the early 80's, ran a 10.08. (Incidently, and as a sidenote...Green just turned 50 a few months ago...and promptly went out and ran, get this... a 4.43 40!)[/QUOTE]

Green in is prime has the next fastest time to Bo Jackson in the 40-yard dash ( an 80's athlete)...ridiculous 4.1 range.

but the athletes back then sucked and are inferior...:facepalm

That why a Nolan Ryan (pitched in the 60's) could throw a high 90's fastball for 27 years in eras without pitch counts and were required to FINISH THE GAME. Relievers were used only if his arm was ready to fall off.

While today's fast ballers tear their arms up in a matter of a few years....but today's athletes are better....:facepalm

Guys, seriously. Please tell me either by MP or her ethat you trolling. Else, I'd be truly worried about your mental health state. I'm asking you man to man. Eyes to eyes.

[QUOTE=Punpun]Guys, seriously. Please tell me either by MP or her ethat you trolling. Else, I'd be truly worried about your mental health state. I'm asking you man to man. Eyes to eyes.[/QUOTE]


Just exposing how incredible ignorant you are to great athletes of the past.

Next you're gonna tell me you've never heard of Bo Jackson too right?? :oldlol:

Bwink, Drop the trolling act for 2s, I have yet to directly address one of your "points" as you didn't do it either. Man to man, eyes to eyes, can you write you aren't trying to troll me ? I shan't believe you.

[QUOTE=Punpun]Bwink, Drop the trolling act for 2s, I have yet to directly address one of your "points" as you didn't do it either. Man to man, eyes to eyes, can you write you aren't trying to troll me ? I shan't believe you.[/QUOTE]

you shant believe what exactly?? :confusedshrug:

Everything stated is FACTUAL....point out what is not factual.

:coleman:

Thankyou. That freaking routine. You should sell it to Skip and SAS.

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Punpun]Thankyou. That freaking routine. You should sell it to Skip and SAS.

:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]


You didn't answer my question.

What did you not see as factual?

:biggums:

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[QUOTE=ThaRegul8r]I also found the use of the word curious. It didn't seem that he actually knew what the word meant.[/QUOTE]
Are you guys kidding? That word is absolutely being used correctly and yes I understand what it means. Type Anthropomorphic measurements in google and tell me what kinds of things come up.

Do you dudes drive around in 1960s Studebakers as well?


Every once in a while these threads are cool, but got damn, do you dudes only talk about the 60s and 70s, we get it people were vastly superior 40 and 50 years ago.

[QUOTE=abuC]Do you dudes drive around in 1960s Studebakers as well?


Every once in a while these threads are cool, but got damn, do you dudes only talk about the 60s and 70s, we get it people were vastly superior 40 and 50 years ago.[/QUOTE]

You don't get it

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]You don't get it[/QUOTE]


No, actually I do get it, every single week there's a new "Wilt" thread or some thread showcasing that not everyone in the 60s was a stiff. Big deal, the cream rises to the top, the median then and now is not the same and your posts never point that out. The "average" athlete then and now are not comparable, but keep pushing your agenda.

[QUOTE=abuC]No, actually I do get it, every single week there's a new "Wilt" thread or some thread showcasing that not everyone in the 60s was a stiff. Big deal, the cream rises to the top, the median then and now is not the same and your posts never point that out. [B]The "average" athlete then and now are not comparable[/B], but keep pushing your agenda.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8-obhfBnB4[/url]

U sure? :lol

[QUOTE=abuC]No, actually I do get it, every single week there's a new "Wilt" thread or some thread showcasing that not everyone in the 60s was a stiff. Big deal, the cream rises to the top, the median then and now is not the same and your posts never point that out. [/QUOTE]

There are lots and lots of posters who actually still don't get it. And no, there are better purposes for some of these threads. Once in a while, there's some new footage becoming available for actual Wilt/retro fans, so, no, not everything revolves around idiots and know-nothings who won't recognise simple things - we'll still have a good sleep.
If "the cream rises to the top, the median then and now is not the same" was the only thing that mattered, there would be no reason to keep the NBA's recorded history at all.

[QUOTE]Are you guys kidding? That word is absolutely being used correctly and yes I understand what it means. Type Anthropomorphic measurements in google and tell me what kinds of things come up.[/QUOTE]

I've also seen the word used in measurement context, but I'll argue that "anthropometric" is more correct.

It depends on the type of measurement, though: A foot is both an anthropometric and an anthropomorphic measurement, because it's also a part of the human body. A cm is only anthropometric.

OP doesn't seem to know what anthropomorphic means.

i do believe NBA has much more athletes right now than back in 60's to early 70's. however the difference between mid 80's to now is probably very slim.

And at the end of the day it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. IMO, there were more tough guys back then.

[QUOTE=jlauber]Put peak Bob Hayes or Jimmy Hines in 00's, give them the best nutrition, medicine, medical technology (to prevent and overcome injuries), with much better techniques and training that have been learned in the last 50 years, with better and lighter shoes, and MUCH better track surfaces...and does anyone think they would still be running 9.95's?[/QUOTE]

i would guess they would run 9.8 ish. but no way in hell they will run 9.58 and be near the record. and i don't think nutrition helps that much. it's not like they were starved.

talent level will always rise if the money is there and population continues to grow.

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let's not go there. Bill Russell is 78 old grandpa. and russell is actually clearly taller. Russell most like lost 1 1/2 inch of his height. he has shrunk again compared to last year.
[IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63cegeFc71r4jroto1_500.jpg[/IMG]

Bron seems like he isn't full 6ft 8.
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[IMG]http://www.nbaarena.com/img/haberler/usa_national_basketball_team_2012.jpg[/IMG]

boozer was measured at 6ft 7 3/4. i think tayshaun prince was not officially measured but he is indeed between 6ft 8 - 6ft 8 1/2 because he was clearly shorter than sheed and webber.

[QUOTE=jlauber]BTW, (and 32Jazz mentioned this already)...

Bob Beamon long jumped 29' 2" in 1968. That mark stood until Mike Powell barely broke it in 1991, with a leap of 29' 4"...

which is STILL the record TODAY.

So, in 44 years we have seen the long jump record increase by TWO INCHES (and that was set over 20 years ago.)[/QUOTE]


long jump is notable for several of the longest-standing world records. my guess is that there is a limit to how far we can jump. jesse owens record stood for like 25 years. it gets broken every 25 years or so. lol

but that doesn't change the fact that 'speed' of the game is much faster right now then back in 60's.

[QUOTE=jlauber]Put Bolt in the same circumstances...with shoes that don't fit, and on a track with trenches in it, and let's see him run a 9.59.[/QUOTE]

no doubt hayes will be an elite sprinter in any era, but he won't be shaving .48 sec even with all the nutrients, training, and new pair of shoes. and old

bolt is just a freak who is way way ahead of his time. i thought 9.5s would happen in 2030 or so. he is just a freak of nature.

hey cav do you have measurement on

Ralph Sampson
Dikembe Mutombo


I believe both are 7ft 1 range. no?

I think Ralph Sampson was a legit 7'2, but I can't say for certain. Pretty crazy considering he was basically the PF for Houston once Hakeem came in.