7 Teams Passed On Drummond, Remember That When...

[QUOTE=kumquat]Drummond sucks balls, he would have slipped further if Detroit didn't pick him.

He's just got no idea what to do on a basketball court. He has the basketball IQ of Kwame and the work ethic of Eddy Curry.
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How exactly does he have the work ethic of Eddy Curry? I've read several different sources that say he's in the gym a lot and is very coachable. He needs direction, a guideline on what he needs to work on.


You don't get to be 280lbs with that little body fat with no work ethic.

[QUOTE=Skywalker]He'll continue to play at the 5 since Drummond will never be a suitable starter.[/QUOTE]
Lol, and yet you mention Terrance Ross starting for Raps. Talk about a suitable starter :roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]He has a better jumper right now than current Deandre Jordan.[/QUOTE]


80% of this forum has a better jumper right now than Deandre Jordan...

[QUOTE]Hibbert was also a better basketball player[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]As a freshman, he certainly did not.[/QUOTE]
he certainly did not a better basketball player :biggums: ...

not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 but 7

Let's see here...

29% Free Throw shooter
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Questionable work ethic/motivation/intensity
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7 footer who averaged < 8 RBG
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2 pts and 3 reb in his only game on a big, important stage (NCAA Tourney) in 26 minutes of action

= over-hyped BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST

Drummond has physical potentially, but he's just so raw, completely lacks any skills at the moment and he's foul prone even at the college level. He's a kid who I definitely would've liked to see stay another 2 years, or at least another year and develop his game a little more while getting playing time. I hate seeing these project big men enter the league when they're going to be so useless in their first year, if not longer. Being so incapable of competing at the NBA level right now, so unskilled and so lacking in knowledge and how to play the game gives him the potential to be a bust so he's far from a safe pick.

As raw as Dwight was as a rookie, Drummond is definitely less skilled and NBA-ready. And while Dwight obviously showed significant potential in his rookie year, he didn't show anything to suggest that he'd be capable of becoming the player he was in 2011. So you never know, these guys can surprise you, but Drummond obviously won't reach Dwight's level.

This also reminds me how much I miss Greg Oden. He had more physical potential than Drummond, and while he was raw, he was much more skilled entering the league than Drummond is now, and you could see the potential for Oden to be able to make jump hooks and develop a pretty good post game.

People compare him to DJ but Cmon did you watch any of his games. He is already better offensively then DJ. Hes going to be dwight with a Jump shot best case scenario. How do you pass on that?

Pistons have Big Ben and Monroe for him to learn from.....

The record on guys with raw physical talents but no basketball skills is awful. For every Andrew Bynum there are 5 Hasheem Thabeets. Not picking Drummond shows that teams are finally learning that these guys tend to be busts.

[QUOTE=eliteballer]Pistons have Big Ben and Monroe for him to learn from.....[/QUOTE]

Wallace probably retires.

The thing with "blank slates" is more often than not, they don't turn out to be Magna Cartas.

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Drummond has physical potentially, but he's just so raw, completely lacks any skills at the moment and he's foul prone even at the college level. He's a kid who I definitely would've liked to see stay another 2 years, or at least another year and develop his game a little more while getting playing time. I hate seeing these project big men enter the league when they're going to be so useless in their first year, if not longer. Being so incapable of competing at the NBA level right now, so unskilled and so lacking in knowledge and how to play the game gives him the potential to be a bust so he's far from a safe pick.[/QUOTE]

This was my initial thinking also but seeing Sullinger and PJ3's stock drop significantly by staying 1 more year I just can't support that anymore. Get in the league while you can, and try to improve from there.

Bunch of morons passing on Drummond. How could Cleveland not look to pair Irving with an All-Star caliber big?


Guys like MKG and Waiters going 2nd and 4th? :oldlol:

And why do people act like he has no skills? Where does this nonsense come from? ESPN? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=stolper]The record on guys with raw physical talents but no basketball skills is awful. [B]For every Andrew Bynum[/B] there are 5 Hasheem Thabeets. Not picking Drummond shows that teams are finally learning that these guys tend to be busts.[/QUOTE]

and the Lakers had Kareem work with him. Who's going to coach up an extremely raw Andre Drummond in Detroit?

[QUOTE=bdreason]And why do people act like he has no skills? Where does this nonsense come from? ESPN? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

People act like that because relative to his size and athleticism he played like crap in his 1 year in college.

The best comparison for Drummond is Amare when he came into the league.

[QUOTE=alwaysunny]This was my initial thinking also but seeing Sullinger and PJ3's stock drop significantly by staying 1 more year I just can't support that anymore. Get in the league while you can, and try to improve from there.[/QUOTE]

I think if he's as talented as some think he is, his stock won't drop, particularly if he starts to show more to his game. I don't like the idea of him going to the NBA which the ability he has now, he won't be able to compete for a while, and I think that's bad for his development.

And purely speaking as an NBA fan, I just hate seeing teams draft these types. It's why I wish there was at least a 2 year college rule.

with Big ben retiring and taking a coaching position on the staff I can see drummond being ready on the defensive end and rebounding very well. Pair him with a smooth player like moose and he will get some easy looks to score a handful of dunks and layups to keep the defense honest. No one is expecting the kid (18 yrs old) to step in and take the world by storm. Labeling him a bust or declaring him the next coming at this point is purely speculation.The college game and the pro game are entirely different creatures and we have all seen the great college players step on the pro floor and take a huge shit on center court. We have also seen relative unknowns step in and become very productive, even all stars. We can all agree the kid has enourmous upside and all the athletic potential to be a huge success....and im sure we can all agree that the term potential usually means " coulda been" I personally will hold out my judgement on him until I see how the team uses him, and how Knight and Monroe play along side him and compliment each others styles of play.

People judging him off his 1 year of college are clueless. He could have been a HS senior the past year, but went to college early. He's more developed than Dwight Howard at the same age.

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]I think if he's as talented as some think he is, his stock won't drop, particularly if he starts to show more to his game. I don't like the idea of him going to the NBA which the ability he has now, he won't be able to compete for a while, and I think that's bad for his development.

And purely speaking as an NBA fan, I just hate seeing teams draft these types.[B] It's why I wish there was at least a 2 year college rule.[/B][/QUOTE]


Why? Calhoun could care less about developing Drummond's skill set as far as it meant winning. He gave the ball to Lamb and Napier all year long. His goal was to win at UConn, not develop Andre Drummond.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Why? Calhoun could care less about developing Drummond's skill set as far as it meant winning. He gave the ball to Lamb and Napier all year long. His goal was to win at UConn, not develop Andre Drummond.[/QUOTE]

Too bad for him, he should have picked Kentucky and Calipari then.

5 teams passed on Lillard, remember that! The best player in the draft, and he got drafted by the great Blazers. Big win!

[QUOTE=Hopper15]Who's going to coach up an extremely raw Andre Drummond in Detroit?[/QUOTE]

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[COLOR="White"]Just kidding.[/COLOR]

I have a hard time seeing Drummond not at least being a rotation player for a long time. He already seems more then capable of playing defense at an NBA level, and his size is quite insane. I don't think people realize that he weighs 280 pounds at 18 years old. He looks like he could easily add quite a bit more weight too. Of course he is raw, but when looking at guys who have the potential to be an all star at the center position the only two I remember that looked as capable in that sense in the past 5 years were Cousins and Oden.
Shooting 30% on free throws is scary though. People talk about guys shooting at like 50-60% being liabilities, and I don't think that's really a huge deal, but if you have a guy shooting 30% in big minutes, I think that could be a huge problem. Beyond that, I have to wonder if he just has an awful offensive touch.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Too bad for him, he should have picked Kentucky and Calipari then.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Kentucky at least is honest about the whole farce that is college basketball.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]I agree. Kentucky at least is honest about the whole farce that is college basketball.[/QUOTE]

Calipari develops his players quite a bit.

I don't understand how certain GMs keep their jobs...Terrence Ross? Someone should be fired.

[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]I don't understand how certain GMs keep their jobs...Terrence Ross? Someone should be fired.[/QUOTE]
He was honestly a safer bet coming out of college. Drummond is a prime example of high risk high reward.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]People judging him off his 1 year of college are clueless. He could have been a HS senior the past year, but went to college early. He's more developed than Dwight Howard at the same age.[/QUOTE]

well actually, he was gonna go to prep school, then decided against it

hes the typical age, of a one-and-done player

If only detroit had kg drummong after 3 years can be your center of the future... as loud as kg talks smack ... kg has got to be one of the best teacher for the entire team ...

[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]I don't understand how certain GMs keep their jobs...Terrence Ross? Someone should be fired.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you. Not just Terrence Ross but I don't see how Drummond realistically should have fallen out of top 5.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster]People act like that because relative to his size and athleticism he played like crap in his 1 year in college.[/QUOTE]


People should have examined the circumstances of his year at UCONN.



Guy is beasting in the preseason, and looks like the best player in the draft so far (along with Lillard).

This is why teams like the raptors will likely stay bad.

[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]This is why teams like the raptors will likely stay bad.[/QUOTE]
Although I still think the Raptors should of taken Drummond. At the same time I'm also pleased with Ross and his potential.

i dont blame the hornets or blazers for passing on drummond. lillard is the best rookie in this class and its not very close, also anthony davis is a no brainer.

[QUOTE=Meticode]Michael Olowokandi[/QUOTE]

:facepalm

[QUOTE=Meticode]Darko Milicic[/QUOTE]

yup.

Kid is a beast.