How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?

[QUOTE=Nash]IN Ballsout and Tenchi Ryu, 2 notorious Heat haters, head.[/QUOTE]
I dont' care for Battier one way or another, just keeping it real. And you're a fan of Miami, so of course you have no problem. Most non heat fans don't like him, or like the majority including myself, don't care one way or another.

But Ray is on a completely different playing field and a more valuable player legacy wise. Him joining miami will definitely have more polarizing results.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Money talks. Boston can pay him way more than Miami.[/QUOTE]

I think that the Miami Heat have been making deals under the table. Haslem and Miller both took about less than what they could get to sign with the Heat. I think the NBA should investigate the Miami Heat. It's probably what they're doing to Ray Allen right now.

There's no reason why he would turn down 6 mill for 2 seasons with Boston or the full MLE with Memphis for a measley 3 mill per season and all the hate/backlash to be with Miami.

[QUOTE=BallsOut]I think that the Miami Heat have been making deals under the table. Haslem and Miller both took about less than what they could get to sign with the Heat. I think the NBA should investigate the Miami Heat. It's probably what they're doing to Ray Allen right now.

There's no reason why he would turn down 6 mill for 2 seasons with Boston or the full MLE with Memphis for a measley 3 mill per season and all the hate/backlash to be with Miami.[/QUOTE]
Conspiracy theories.. :roll: Haters having a meltdown.

[QUOTE=Nash]THE MAN!!? Ask Bosh if he wants to leave Miami to be the man at any team out there and he wouldn't. Why would he? He's living the rock star life right now. [/QUOTE]
Why is that relevant to conversation? Who cares what he's doing now, the point isn't whether he was happy or not, he was the MAN. Now, he's a third option, there is nothing to dispute about that.

[QUOTE=Nash]And if you seriously think Bosh was more relevant with Toronto than with the Heat then I don't know if you're trolling me or not.[/QUOTE]
Nobody said more, the relevancy seems equal to me. Its just louder since its more hate filled now.

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]I dont' care for Battier one way or another, just keeping it real. And you're a fan of Miami, so of course you have no problem. Most non heat fans don't like him, or like the majority including myself, don't care one way or another.

But Ray is on a completely different playing field and a more valuable player legacy wise. Him joining miami will definitely have more polarizing results.[/QUOTE]
Did you hate on Ray when he joined up with Garnett and Pierce to form a super team?

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Who cares if he's enjoying it, the question OP is asking is how FANS will appreciate it. Battier is definitely enjoying his ring, but he definitely lost some fans in the process.

And considering Boston is just as big a rival to Miami as Chicago is, Boston fans and bandwagoners (Which they have a LOT of) would not be pleased if Ray went there.[/QUOTE]
I think he gained a lot more than he lost. Battier is now a household name for even casual fans and it got to the point where Shaq and Barkley discuss about what Battier dressed coming into the arena. You are crazy if you think it is bad for Battier.

if he leaves can't he go to memphis please?

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Why is that relevant to conversation? Who cares what he's doing now, the point is whether he was happy or not, he was the MAN. Now, he's a third option, there is nothing to dispute about that.


Nobody said more, the relevancy seems equal to me. Its just louder since its more hate filled now.[/QUOTE]
Bosh equally as relevant now than with Toronto? SMH :facepalm

I'm sorry man, but I'm will not continue this discussion with you. You're so far off that I don't even think there is any point of me trying to discuss this with you.

Only hate/backlash will be from nerds on the Internet that hate everything anyway:oldlol:

Ray Allen is a class act, I'd enjoy watching him on any team he plays for. He hasn't been a lifelong Celtic so get over the "loyalty" shit:facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=Nash]Did you hate on Ray when he joined up with Garnett and Pierce to form a super team?[/QUOTE]
WTF? Were you watching B-ball then? A Lot of people (Specifically Laker fans) did not like that shit at all.

[QUOTE=Nash]Did you hate on Ray when he joined up with Garnett and Pierce to form a super team?[/QUOTE]
Still trying to compare those, eh?

[QUOTE=Nash]Bosh equally as relevant now than with Toronto? SMH :facepalm
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More like SMH at you. You're acting like he was some scrub or something. He was a LEGIT top 10 player when in toronto. He is the EXACT same person he was then now. He's just in Miami now, wtf does relevance have to do with it? Chris Bosh is still Chris Bosh, just with more hate. JUST like Bron is still Bron, just with more hate.

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]WTF? Were you watching B-ball then? A Lot of people (Specifically Laker fans) did not like that shit at all.[/QUOTE]
Then why ain't you still hating?

[QUOTE=Nash]Then why ain't you still hating?[/QUOTE]
When did I say I was hating on Boston?

Tenchi is still butthurt about Lebron not signing with the bulls:oldlol: get over it

[QUOTE=BallsOut]

I think that the Miami Heat have been making deals under the table. Haslem and Miller both took about less than what they could get to sign with the Heat. I think the NBA should investigate the Miami Heat. It's probably what they're doing to Ray Allen right now.

There's no reason why he would turn down 6 mill for 2 seasons with Boston or the full MLE with Memphis for a measley 3 mill per season and all the hate/backlash to be with Miami.[/QUOTE]

haha you butthurt loser


enjoy our dynasty !! :pimp:

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Tenchi is still butthurt about Lebron not signing with the bulls:oldlol: get over it[/QUOTE]
What does Lebron have to do with this thread fool?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]WTF? Were you watching B-ball then? A Lot of people (Specifically Laker fans) did not like that shit at all.[/QUOTE]
Cos they were adamant in the belief that KG wanted to be a Laker at the time and wanted to run with Kobe. Laker fans ate crow that year when they got Pau for a box of peanuts, anyway.

[QUOTE=Derka]Cos they were adamant in the belief that KG wanted to be a Laker at the time and wanted to run with Kobe. Laker fans ate crow that year when they got Pau for a box of peanuts, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Lol, I remember that too. Then again, lakers always think they are winning the free agency race
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

While dudes were on vacations, by October Bron, Bosh and Wade were already working hard to start the season. Why are these dumb haters talking about lack of effort on the heat squad, Lebron rides a bike to games and stretches two hours before games. :
Eddie House? :biggums:
Bibby the record holder for WORST player in NBA playoffs history last year?
Let's see where were are the careers of the rest of those shooters, 0 rings before Lebron, 1 ring after.

As a long time Ray Allen fan, I ask him to take some time to consider before going to Miami. Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:

[B]Eddie House[/B] - once an incredible knock down 3pt shooter for Boston making clutch shots against the Lakers, is this guy still in the league?
[B]Mike Bibby[/B] - quality starter for Atlanta, but used by Miami and thrown under the bus after Heat lose to Mavs in the finals
[B]Shane Battier[/B] - hard defensive minded worker, but received immense ridicule and labeled scrub throughout the season for missing shots
[B]Mike Miller[/B] - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
[B]James Jones[/B] - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat

Ray Allen has to ask himself. Does he want to be the next scapegoat when the Miami Heat lose? Does he want to end his career that way? Does Ray Allen want to go out like that?

I won't hate him. Celtics tried to trade him. I'd rather see the Celtic Big 3 break apart because of retirement, though.

Hello,
Celtics have offered Allen 12 Mil for 2 seasons.
Mia has offered around 3.1 mil per season for 3 seasons.

So less than 3 mil difference in the end. However lets say Allen retires after 2 seasons then will still get the remainder of his contract.

No state income tax in Florida and the difference will be negligible...if anything.

If Allen leaves then I think it is because of a team related issue.

This being said I think he will stay...even though I would love to see him on the Heat.

He's welcome to join any team - he should understand though that while Miami offers the best chance at a title, they can't offer him much money or playing time.

I would lose some respect for Allen, and it's not because they're the Heat - it's because he would be going to a team he lost to for the last 2 seasons. That's weak.

Imagine if Jordan signed with the Pistons instead of beating them (yes I understand that my comparison is absurd)

[QUOTE=Nash]Did you hate on Ray when he joined up with Garnett and Pierce to form a super team?[/QUOTE]
I thought KG and Ray Allen got traded to the Celtics?

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]I thought KG and Ray Allen got traded to the Celtics?[/QUOTE]

Exactly

[QUOTE=BallsOut]As a long time Ray Allen fan, I ask him to take some time to consider before going to Miami. Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:

[B]Eddie House[/B] - once an incredible knock down 3pt shooter for Boston making clutch shots against the Lakers, is this guy still in the league?
[B]Mike Bibby[/B] - quality starter for Atlanta, but used by Miami and thrown under the bus after Heat lose to Mavs in the finals
[B]Shane Battier[/B] - hard defensive minded worker, but received immense ridicule and labeled scrub throughout the season for missing shots
[B]Mike Miller[/B] - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
[B]James Jones[/B] - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat

Ray Allen has to ask himself. Does he want to be the next scapegoat when the Miami Heat lose? Does he want to end his career that way? Does Ray Allen want to go out like that?[/QUOTE]
You can't compare Ray Allen to any of those guys. Ray Allen would easily be the 4th best player on the Heat. Those other guys are not Ray Allen material.

Bibby, House are already scrubs when they signed.

Battier was important part in the championship team, dude started and played many minutes. What you on about?

Mike Miller is injured while James Jones is a reserve with guys like Lebron and Battier ahead of him.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]I thought KG and Ray Allen got traded to the Celtics?[/QUOTE]
He is a LeBronyte who started watching basketball 2 years ago don't expect much from him.

[QUOTE=BallsOut]As a long time Ray Allen fan, I ask him to take some time to consider before going to Miami. Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:

[B]Eddie House[/B] - once an incredible knock down 3pt shooter for Boston making clutch shots against the Lakers, is this guy still in the league?
[B]Mike Bibby[/B] - quality starter for Atlanta, but used by Miami and thrown under the bus after Heat lose to Mavs in the finals
[B]Shane Battier[/B] - hard defensive minded worker, but received immense ridicule and labeled scrub throughout the season for missing shots
[B]Mike Miller[/B] - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
[B]James Jones[/B] - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat

Ray Allen has to ask himself. Does he want to be the next scapegoat when the Miami Heat lose? Does he want to end his career that way? Does Ray Allen want to go out like that?[/QUOTE]
Dumbest post ever. Congrats. Lol comparing a hall of famer to this group who has like one all star appearance combined ??

[QUOTE=50inchvertical]none, he isn't LeBron[/QUOTE]

hahaha so true.

You guys watch too much TV. Allen can sign with any team. He's a free agent. End of story.

I wont hate him, he did what he could in boston(won us a ring :)) and he decided to get a better chance at another one

I wouldn't hate him..I would just feel shocked. Like he bitch slapped every Boston fan in the face. Especially considering KG is coming back and the Celtics made an offer that is twice as good as Miami's. But I wouldn't hate him.

Not much. Not like he's a superstar nowadays

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Put him on the choppin block multiple times. Only reason he's still there now is cause KG decided to go beast mode the later half of the year. Doc moving KG to C saved Ray.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: Because Ray Allen is too good to be in trade discussions.

Pierce and KG were involved in just as many trade rumors as Ray, and NOBODY was involved in more than Rondo. If Ray's gonna bitch about that he should just leave, because no doubt he'll continue to be in trade discussions, as everyone else in the Big 4 will be.

No need to hate he gave the Celtics 5 good years and moved on. I appreciate what he did for the Celtics franchise no matter what jersey he may wear in the future except if it is a Laker jersey.

Celtics were trying their best to trade him. He owes them absolutely nothing. Say he goes to another team and they win next year, why isn't that going to the "dark side". Let's be real the Heat don't have a rivalry with the Celts, Lebron does. The only rivalry as a team for them is the Lakers.

He will do more harm then good in Boston honestly...your not winning a Chamionship with a "big 3" of old crippled guys that can't play heavy minutes. In Miami he will play 20 minutes a game and not be expected to do anything but stand and make 3s

[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]Celtics were trying their best to trade him..[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: If they were trying their best to trade him, why wasn't he traded? Surely if they wanted him gone so bad they could've shipped him away for scrubs or draft picks, right?

I swear some people on here are completely clueless.

not much. superstars garner the most hate. we also don't know what's going on behind the scenes. rumors are that he has a tense relationship with rondo and he also didn't like the idea of starting behind bradley. that and i think he wants more overall touches (don't see how he can get much more in miami but whatever).