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[QUOTE=raiderfan19]get a membership at a gym. its easier than getting a whole weight set. Anyway, if you want to get your bench up work really hard on your triceps since they have to do with whether or not you can finish(lock out) a rep. Pyramid up in weights and then make yourself pyramid back down. Also try some negative reps since it helps your wrists get used to heavier weight. Just a few ideas. Though to be honest if you are just trying to get "cut" you need different kinds of workouts then the kind that are done to make you stronger.[/QUOTE]
I usually go to my college's gym, and I was running about 2-3 miles 3 times a week, but ever since the break, I think I gained all the weight I might of lost. I think I'm going to try to lose some weight and work on reps more then say weight. I would like to get down to 175 or so, but I don't know if I have the mental toughness to do so.
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if you want to lose weight drink ALOT of water. It will do the same thing that taking diet pills do. It makes water run through your system quickly. Also try drinking a glass of water before you eat, one while your eating and one after you eat. It helps your digestion which is a big part of your weight.
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I was told to strength your core when you want to bench. All i want to do is add 10 maybe 15lbs (nothing more!) of muscle and I'm good at my size. 10 is doable if I really want it. Just go all out. 4 days a week, step up diet and within a year I should be able to get 10.
Screw a vert. I play ball but I dont care about dunkin. Too old. Those hoop dreams/days are gone.
[QUOTE=raiderfan19]yeah. Like i said you can google me and find me on an old crappy recruiting site but it will at least show that i was close to what i am now coming out of hs. Ive grown an inch and gained some weight since then but like i said there is at least some evidence that im tellin the truth.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: I'm not googling you. Pix? Sure. Info? Sure. Raiderfan from Tulskalusca Texas? No way!
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ht: 5-10/5-11
weight: 165
vertical leap: idk but i can do 2 handed jam
max bench: not a gym guy
standing reach: don't know
wingspan: average, i think
40 yard dash: 4-5
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Or ALB can wait for ISH Victor Conte (hateraid) to sell him some "clear" :lol:
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[QUOTE=raiderfan19]if you want to lose weight drink ALOT of water. It will do the same thing that taking diet pills do. It makes water run through your system quickly. Also try drinking a glass of water before you eat, one while your eating and one after you eat. It helps your digestion which is a big part of your weight.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice. I've heard drinking water helps you lose weight, and I might just try drinking it excessively to help lose weight.
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haha gobb, i meant my actual name and im from corsicana not tulskala or whatever you said.
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[QUOTE=raiderfan19]haha gobb, i meant my actual name and im from corsicana not tulskala or whatever you said.[/QUOTE]
:lol: I know.
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I bench normally around 370-380 but I don't really train much anymore. When I was at Texas I did alot of weight lifting but now I have a full time job and family. I don't really have the time anymore.
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ht: 6-1
weight: 147 lb
vertical leap: 29-30
max bench: 155lb
standing reach: ?
wingspan: ?
40 yard dash: Idk but it is probably around 4.7-4.8
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ht: 6'0"
weight:160-165 lbs
vertical leap: 26, about 31 with approach
max bench: 210
standing reach: 7'7"
wingspan: 6'0"
40 yard dash: IDk but pretty fast
I can only get two knuckles over the rim so I need about 6 more inches to dunk. So, the question is, what part of the body is the most influential in allowing one to dunk? There's been calf talk here and I've always thought the lower back was a big factor.
So, from your experience what would you vote on?:
calves, hams, quads, back, midsection, butt, upper body ??
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[QUOTE=Erick]ht: 6'0"
weight:160-165 lbs
vertical leap: 26, about 31 with approach
max bench: 210
standing reach: 7'7"
wingspan: 6'0"
40 yard dash: IDk but pretty fast
I can only get two knuckles over the rim so I need about 6 more inches to dunk. So, the question is, what part of the body is the most influential in allowing one to dunk? There's been calf talk here and I've always thought the lower back was a big factor.
So, from your experience what would you vote on?:
calves, hams, quads, back, midsection, butt, upper body ??[/QUOTE]
Posterior chain: back, hamstrings, glutes, calves. Don't sleep on the quads, abs, and even upper body though. I'd just recommend some plyometrics. If you don't mind working hard for about an hr 3x a week and probably cut back on any ballin for the first 2wks, I bet you can be dunking after 2 weeks of Scott's Creation vertical leap program. Google it, they used to sell it in Slam then it got all over the internet.
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why would you cut back on the ballin datz? Im trying to get my vert up a little too so i may end up doing that too im just curious why you would do that?
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Just while you're doing the program, because you don't want to end up overtraining and open yourself up to knee tendinitis, or possibly more serious injuries. You probably won't have enough legs left to hoop after it anyways, that program is serious especially the quad supersets at the end.
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Age: 15
height: 6'1
weight: 185 lbs
vert: 32
I haven't checked my wingspan, reach, max bench, in a while. My first dunk was when I was 14
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[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]ht: 6-1
weight: 147 lb
vertical leap: 29-30
max bench: 155lb
standing reach: ?
wingspan: ?
40 yard dash: Idk but it is probably around 4.7-4.8[/QUOTE]
147 ?? you muscle or bones?
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Height 6'1
Weight 255
Vertical leap:don't know but I can grab the rim with 2 hands but cant dunk
Bench Press: 425
Squat: 650
40 time: these days probably 4.9
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age: 17
ht: 6'
wt: 150
wingspan: 6'4
can anybody estimate my vert? with a one step gather I can barely get rim. on a good day I can get a little past my first knuckle on the rim.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBravo5]Height 6'1
Weight 255
Vertical leap:don't know but I can grab the rim with 2 hands but cant dunk
Bench Press: 425
Squat: 650
40 time: these days probably 4.9[/QUOTE]
what nfl team do you play for?:roll:
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Actually I am a bodybuilder (and a lawyer), and I am actually going to enter my first show in April, the NPC Atlanta. I have been a big guy since college, which is how I got the nickname Johnny Bravo...which is kind of funny since I am a black man.
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[QUOTE=geeWiz15]age: 17
ht: 6'
wt: 150
wingspan: 6'4
can anybody estimate my vert? with a one step gather I can barely get rim. on a good day I can get a little past my first knuckle on the rim.[/QUOTE]29-31
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[QUOTE=HALLandOATES]147 ?? you muscle or bones?[/QUOTE]
Im fit and am pretty strong i just think i have a high metabolism or something. I plan on lifting to gain weight and eating healthier than i do now.
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[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Im fit and am pretty strong i just think i have a high metabolism or something. I plan on lifting to gain weight and eating healthier than i do now.[/QUOTE]
Read some of the articles at [url]www.bodybuilding.com[/url]. You should up your protein intake to about 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight. In your case you should eat about 150-200 grams of protein per day..assuming of course you aren't 12.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBravo5]Read some of the articles at [url]www.bodybuilding.com[/url]. You should up your protein intake to about 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight. In your case you should eat about 150-200 grams of protein per day..assuming of course you aren't 12.[/QUOTE]
Yeah thanks and no im not 12 im 16.
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[quote]29-31[/quote]
that cant be right can it? 2 and a half feet in the air? don't most NBA players we consider athletic only get like 35?
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most athletic nba players get 37-45
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBravo5]Actually I am a bodybuilder (and a lawyer), and I am actually going to enter my first show in April, the NPC Atlanta. I have been a big guy since college, which is how I got the nickname Johnny Bravo...which is kind of funny since I am a black man.[/QUOTE]
:roll: A black bodybuilder/lawyer. Who woulda thought.
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[B]Height:[/B] 6'1"
[B]Weight:[/B] 205-220 (varies with the season)
[B]Vertical:[/B] around 33" with an approach (I can usually get my whole or most of my hand above the rim)
[b]Wingspan:[/b] I think the one time I checked this out of curiosity it was about 6'7"-6'8".
[B]Standing Reach:[/B] around 7'8" or so
[B]Max Bench[/B]: Never tried to max out; I never lifted weights until recently (last several months) and haven't bought a bench yet. I will say that when I was 17, my best friend and I went to the gym every day at 6 AM for about a month before we fizzled out and I was doing 3 sets of 10-12 reps @ 185 pounds right off the bat, with no prior weightlifting experience, so take that as you will. I have a naturally broad chest and shoulders.
[B]40 yard time:[/B] Don't know, but I routinely outran guys on the track team who were doing mid-high 4's in college. I have an odd running technique (never thought about it, it just developed this way growing up) that I now realize cuts down on my time to cover distance: I run only on the balls of my feet; my arch and heel literally [b]never[/b] touch the ground. This minimizes the time that my feet are in contact with the ground, increasing my speed. It wreaks havoc on your shins if you do any sort of distance (which is why I run in the normal heel-to-toe fashion for anything distance-related), but it's [i]great[/i] for short-burst speed since it allows for faster leg turnover.
I remember playing ball in college with the school team (they'd come down after practice to the rec center and play for a while sometimes) and there was a loose ball that was about 25 feet away from me, but only about 12-15 feet away from the starting PG (a [i]really[/i] quick 5'8" kid, weighed about 150, if that). We both saw it and at first were just gonna let it roll out of bounds. Then, at the same moment, we must have both decided to go get it. We end up reaching the ball at the same time and knocking into each other and knocking the ball out of bounds. He was shocked, because he saw that I had covered roughly twice the distance he did in the same time. He goes "daaaaamn boy, you just turned on the jets!" :D Suffice it to say that I have natural speed. I've always maintained that I could have run track had I wanted to, because I've ran against track athletes and football/basketball players, and even where they were marginally faster than me, they were in [b]much[/b] better shape. In the incident recalled above, for instance (which was about 5-6 years ago), I was up to 235 pounds -- about 35-40 pounds over my ideal weight, with a good deal of fat (it was a particularly bad winter phase :D; I gain and take off weight very easily). And I still outran someone who was in the best shape possible. And that's far from the only time that's happened.
The best part? I'm white. :D :banana:
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[QUOTE=geeWiz15]that cant be right can it? 2 and a half feet in the air? don't most NBA players we consider athletic only get like 35?[/QUOTE]
35 is probably the lower threshhold of being athletic, someone like Dorrel Wright or Quis Daniels. I assume we're all talking about the max hops we can get and not standing vertical as well otherwise that changes everything.
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[quote]most athletic nba players get 37-45[/quote]
standing vert? then how come when your read about some dude with a 40-42 inch vert people go crazy over it? if that's normal?
I always thought it was prime Francis, etc, special guys who were in the low 40s, while guys like current Kobe, Gilbert, etc were in the high to mid 30s.
to think I'm only a few inches away from guys like that is crazy.
heres another estimation for you guys.
5'11 with a normal wingspan and can do a one handed dunk pretty consistently. can grip the rim with one step gather.
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[quote]35 is probably the lower threshhold of being athletic, someone like Dorrel Wright or Quis Daniels. I assume we're all talking about the max hops we can get and not standing vertical as well otherwise that changes everything.[/quote]
the thing is one step gather and running max are about the same for me. no matter how much momentum I got I can't get any higher than one knuckle on the rim.
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I'm sorry guys, but most of you are lying; or we have a statistical anomaly in here.
According to most websites I've seen, Kobe Bryant has a 38" vertical, Iverson having a 41", Odom having a 32", Prime Malone 28". To see 3/4ths of ISH seem to be above Odom, I sense a lot of bullsh*t in here.
I'm 6'3 215 now.
Black mind you
Max bench 250ish
Vert is probably 28 now, was 32" in prime, and I was scouted in high school.
and :oldlol: at johnnybravo's 525 bench press. :bowdown:
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here's one a just googled
[url]http://kalenm69.tripod.com/nbaverticals[/url]
Although I do think Dr.J's is too low.
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i posted my running vert. My standing vert is about 25-26
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[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]I'm sorry guys, but most of you are lying; or we have a statistical anomaly in here.
According to most websites I've seen, Kobe Bryant has a 38" vertical, Iverson having a 41", Odom having a 32", Prime Malone 28". To see 3/4ths of ISH seem to be above Odom, I sense a lot of bullsh*t in here.
I'm 6'3 215 now.
Black mind you
Max bench 250ish
Vert is probably 28 now, was 32" in prime, and I was scouted in high school.
and :oldlol: at johnnybravo's 525 bench press. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Its 425...although I think I could get close if I had one of those powerlifting bench shirts....lol
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Kobe gets higher than 38 easily, and do you think Odom jumps high? He's 6'10
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBravo5]Its 425...although I think I could get close if I had one of those powerlifting bench shirts....lol[/QUOTE]
What made you want to become a bodybuilder?
Are you obsessed with your looks? Meaning your eye sees something different from another persons eye? Like you could look in the mirror and say "I could use a lil more muscle" when to others you are a walkin piece of filet mignon. Always wondered if muscle bound freakazoids had the same complex that an anorexic chick would have.
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age: 17
ht: 6'0
weight: 162 lbs
vertical leap: Don't know
max bench: Don't know
standing reach: Don't know but everyone tells me I have really long arms
wingspan: (see standing reach)
40 yard dash: Don't know
Ummmm yeah..that wasn't helpful.
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[QUOTE]I'm sorry guys, but most of you are lying; or we have a statistical anomaly in here.
According to most websites I've seen, Kobe Bryant has a 38" vertical, Iverson having a 41", Odom having a 32", Prime Malone 28". To see 3/4ths of ISH seem to be above Odom, I sense a lot of bullsh*t in here.[/QUOTE]
I can buy most of these. The range for even decently athletic people vertical wise isnt going to be huge. Doesnt take a crazy standing vert to look athletic in the NBA. Other things factor in. Andre Iguodala for example recorded a 34 inch vertical at the predrft camp. I did that. And I promise you that you could go to any playground in america and most of the people who can dunk will be in the 31-35 range. Doesnt mean they can dunk like Iggy. I sure as hell cant and never could.
Things like size, arm length, how much more you can get up off the run than standing, and how flexible you are in the air all factor in. Plus what kind of jumper you are 1 or 2 footed.
How good a dunker you are and the athletic plays you make is n issue not as related to vert as many think. Most of my HS team ws around 33 with the highest in the 38-40 range once you got to the short guys. Little guy I knew named Jarvis was about 5'6'' getting up a legit 42 inches given a step.
There isnt that big a difference between a normal athletic person and an NBA level athletic person vertical wise even if there is a big difference in what they can do with it. The Gerald Greens, Travis Outlaws, and Josh smiths of the world who are tall and get up a legit 39-40 inches off a step are rare. Once you get over a certian height legit 40 inch verts are often just unmeasured claims to make guys look good. 31-35 is gonna be the norm for a decent dunker in the nba or not.