Slightly off topic, but fatboy, you seem infinitely more aggressive, irritable, and just *********gy in general than I ever remembered you. Not that that should really bother you, because I do respect your posting, and I'm not the nicest/best poster here either, but it's just surprising to me because I don't recollect you like this on the old ISH at all.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]While I won't dispute that I'm an a$$hole, who that was trying to have a [I]decent [/I]conversation with me did I call stupid?
Are you talking about Heretik? I assume so since you quoted my response to him. I was merely responding to a challenge and I didn't call him stupid.[/QUOTE]
"People actually think this Jazz team is capable of winning a championship? Incredible. We have some dumb people here."
"3. Bring the Rockets in and I have my blinders on? Uh, you brought them in, man. Jesus, are you THAT stupid?"
"Shut your fu*king mouth until you get a clue as to what the fu*k you're talking about."
"if you want to learn a thing or two about me before you starting posting nonsense."
"Because you're a punk"
"You clearly lack the mental intelligence to grasp this."
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A*S*S*H*O*L*E... Have a half-way respectful conversation and you and/or the other person might learn something.
First off, anything could happen and the Jazz have a very slim outside shot, second off the promise land doesn't have to be this year as THIS team is young and are very likely to get much better, but without AK it would be that much more of a narrow chance. But I don't even want to get into it with you... You're not worth trying to have a conversation with.
[QUOTE=Chalkmaze]"People actually think this Jazz team is capable of winning a championship? Incredible. We have some dumb people here."
"3. Bring the Rockets in and I have my blinders on? Uh, you brought them in, man. Jesus, are you THAT stupid?"
"Shut your fu*king mouth until you get a clue as to what the fu*k you're talking about."
"if you want to learn a thing or two about me before you starting posting nonsense."
"Because you're a punk"
"You clearly lack the mental intelligence to grasp this."
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A*S*S*H*O*L*E... Have a half-way respectful conversation and you and/or the other person might learn something.
First off, anything could happen and the Jazz have a very slim outside shot, second off the promise land doesn't have to be this year as THIS team is young and are very likely to get much better, but without AK it would be that much more of a narrow chance. But I don't even want to get into it with you... You're not worth trying to have a conversation with.[/QUOTE]First quote was to no one in particular, just a general statement.
The other quotes were directed at someone who was trying to offend me, not someone who was "trying to make decent conversation".
Now I think the difference is quite clear. Obviously, not to you. Of course, I had to break it down for you just like I have to do with many of these other idiots.
^^^ That is why I'm infinitely more irritable, Icemanfan. The stupidity just gets to me. I don't have the patient to deal with it at work and then again on this message board. Sue me, fu*kers. I could honestly care less what most of you think.
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^^^ That is why I'm infinitely more irritable, Icemanfan. The stupidity just gets to me. I don't have the patient to deal with it at work and then again on this message board. Sue me, fu*kers. I could honestly care less what most of you think.[/QUOTE]
If it makes any difference, I love you..... John! I forgot to call you John ages ago, but my memory never seizes to amaze me.
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]You're my boy too, Ryan.[/QUOTE]
I'm smiling all the way from the bottom of my Seoul.
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I love all my vets. Except for Real Men Wear Green. Fu*k that guy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he's a w@nk. No one likes him except for @sswipes.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]First quote was to no one in particular, just a general statement.
The other quotes were directed at someone who was trying to offend me, not someone who was "trying to make decent conversation".
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Yet in a previous post
"2. I know what this thread was about. However, I CLEARLY quoted someone and RESPONDED to something THEY SAID. What they said was about the Jazz going to "the promised land". Do you understand now?"
And I wasnt trying to offend you (though clearly I have). I was simply making a comparison with a team you follow closely and I think is in a similar position to the jazz.
[QUOTE=boozehound]Yet in a previous post
"2. I know what this thread was about. However, I CLEARLY quoted someone and RESPONDED to something THEY SAID. What they said was about the Jazz going to "the promised land". Do you understand now?"
[/QUOTE]I didn't directly call that person stupid. It was implied, but not a direct shot. I said "people" because I've seen others make the same claim. Far too many people on this board don't know the difference between an average playoff team and a contender.
Technicality, I know. Oh well.
so who in your esteemed opinion is a contender? I would venture that it is awfully hard to say this far from the playoffs. Momentum shifts, players get injured or come back from injury....
All it takes is one good series from the nuggs or utah, etc and the suns or dallas could be watching from home.
Dallas, Phoenix, and San Antonio. That's it right now.
Maybe Houston, Denver, or the Lakers. Maybe Detroit if they continue to make positive moves. Maybe Miami if they get everyone back and on the same page.
But just those 3 out West right now. In my opinion.
you do9nt think Utah (which has beaten the Suns twice already) could take them in a 7 gamer? I do, if they can play their game and not get caught up in the run and gun. I would also put Utah right about where the lakers and nuggs are as well. Each of tehse teams has some weaknesses, but can play at a very high level. Booz and Okur will be the highest scoring starting 4/5 tandem in the league this year (now granter, the 2 and 3 leave something to be desired).
San Antonio
Dallas
Phoenix
Detroit
HEALTHY Houston
HEALTHY Miami
Those are the contenders, if you ask me. Since those two teams aren't healthy right now, there are currently only four teams I can see winning the championship.
You think Detroit has the juice, as is, to win the championship?
I think they need to make a move or two first. The Webber pickup was huge, though.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]You think Detroit has the juice, as is, to win the championship?
I think they need to make a move or two first. The Webber pickup was huge, though.[/QUOTE]
I think they're good enough.
I think Rasheed has to change the way he plays a little, though. More post-oriented in order to better compliment Webber when Webber's out there.
They play together, move the ball, have great team defense. They just need to be on the same page and committed and to peak at the right time, as with any championship team.
They might need to upgrade one of their bench guards, though. They just need one really solid one.
I heard that they're looking at Jaric. Don't know if he would be considered "solid" or not.
As for the original topic, if Kirilenko isn't working out, then Miller is being a freaking idiot by being so overt with all of this feuding. Just driving his value way down.
If he needs to go, shut up and get the move done. Don't make it less profitable by fighting with him.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]I heard that they're looking at Jaric. Don't know if he would be considered "solid" or not.[/QUOTE]
Not "really solid," but I really do think Jaric is pretty good this year. Detroit fans, after asking me for descriptions, say he's the same as Carlos Delfino, but I really think Jaric's a useful combo guard off the bench.
Kirilenko/Giricek/Miles for Miller/Warrick.
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Kirilenko/Giricek/Miles for Miller/Warrick.[/QUOTE]
The money's not even close, and Memphis likely doesn't want Kirilenko.
sheed has been incredibly inconsistent and unmotivated this season. I almost want him to get T's cause he plays harder :hammerhead: . Clearly he needs to step it up (along with Dice). We need to unload flip murray for a better point guard or combo (I am concerned with using lindey too much). Jaric sounds like a slightly better version fo delfino with better handles and not as good a rebounder. Although I don't think he'd be terrible for us, he makes way too much for what he would bring to the court vs. delfino. Brevin Knight is reportedly unhappy.
I agree SAKF, Larry Miller is frequently a little too candid.
I can't believe no one's pointed out yet that AK made a pretty sick rhyme. Some label needs to sign him.
I feel sorry for you if me and me = sick rhyme. It doesnt even have a cadence or meter.
[QUOTE=funkylikemonkey]I'm a little out of the loop...which Miller is he talking about?[/QUOTE]
Cheryl
for-ignore.
For those of you that don't remember or don't know, last year and a part of the year before that, Boozer was in the same boat as AK. Larry Miller was complaining about boozer too and there were talks about him being traded. Now look at him. He is an all-star and the jazz wont even dream of trading him. I think kirilenko will be just fine if he plays like he has played the last 3 games. I think that miller was doing this as a challenge to AK, not exactly a threat of being traded. Larry Miller is an :hammerhead: but i don't think he would trade AK. The Jazz need him in the playoffs.
[QUOTE=Mewwem22]I think kirilenko will be just fine if he plays like he has played the last 3 games.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, people seem to have missed that he's on the upswing again.
[quote]I think Rasheed has to change the way he plays a little, though. More post-oriented [/quote]
Rasheed Wallace is one of the best two-way post players in the NBA. He knows it. I know it. You know it. It's been said for years. Unfortunately, he hasn't given a damn about playing in the post consistently for years now.
[QUOTE=braden.]Rasheed Wallace is one of the best two-way post players in the NBA. He knows it. I know it. You know it. It's been said for years. Unfortunately, he hasn't given a damn about playing in the post consistently for years now.[/QUOTE]
exactly, so he needs to start giving a damn or this team is not in it for this title hunt.
[QUOTE=Heretik32]Agreed, people seem to have missed that he's on the upswing again.[/QUOTE]
Upswing? You mean posting 5 x 3's? :roll:
AK is a idiot if he stands for that. He has enuff game/rep where he doesnt have to put up with **** like that from a owner. i'd be like "then trade me *****". every other team in the league would be happy to have him.
playing in Utah has got to suck between the owner calling his players out and the coach giving no respect to anyone but boozer.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Upswing? You mean posting 5 x 3's? :roll:[/QUOTE]
If that's what it takes for the Jazz to win games, I'll gladly take it.
This fued will end shortly. Larry H. Miller has a history of shoving his foot in his fat mouth. He and Karl had a love hate relationship for years.
[QUOTE=Rab]This fued will end shortly. Larry H. Miller has a history of shoving his foot in his fat mouth. He and Karl had a love hate relationship for years.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations for including truth in your 1000th post. Mine was "You got mail".
[QUOTE=Heretik32]Congratulations for including truth in your 1000th post. Mine was "You got mail".[/QUOTE]
I remember that, but that was actually my 999th post.
[QUOTE=Rab]I remember that, but that was actually my 999th post.[/QUOTE]
So you instantly jumped over and opened a celebration thread with your 1000th post? Man, that's like Ricky Davis shooting at his own basket, that shouldn't even count:lol:
Just kidding:cheers:
[QUOTE=Heretik32]So you instantly jumped over and opened a celebration thread with your 1000th post? Man, that's like Ricky Davis shooting at his own basket, that shouldn't even count:lol:
Just kidding:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Well, it did take me from when the Suns got bounced from the playoffs last season, to now to get to 1,000 so I guess I decided to be a stat whore for once. :D
hi