Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

[QUOTE=LBJDW305]Riley would've gotten him for 3mill a year :yaohappy: but the dude is seriously underrated and hated because he was fooled into a fake marriage...that's how pathetic ppl are while americas slut is running around being famous for getting fcked on camera[/QUOTE]
again, dude started 62 games for one of the worst teams in the league last year.

Any contract where people almost instantly say (like the Lin one would be for Knicks) and the last year will be a great expirer pretty much is overpaying, no?

Its a 2 Year Deal. Can become a good expirer.

Niko it is an over pay, but it is for 2 years. im not complaining. We needed a guy like him next to Lopez.

[QUOTE=boozehound]then, pray tell, what is the worst contract this offseason? I cant think of one worse than this. Maybe Crash? Lin and Asik are about 8 mil per and both much more impactful than this dude, despite his statline. Besides, they had to be structured that way to pry them as RFA away from their former teams. People seem to forget how terrible this team was last year, and they are returning three of the starters but are now playoff bound?[/QUOTE]
They are returning two starters. Dwill and hump. Brook Lopez missed 61 games and Wallace played half a season. Then they are adding a Perenial 18 ppg scorer. And if the nets let hump escape they won't fill his shoes. And Asik is a scrub. Yeah he's a hard worker but hump is too and he can score and rebound 100x better then Asik. Asik won't get better. All he can do is hustle and play defense. He will never learn to put the ball in the basket.

[QUOTE=D12"Magic"]Its a 2 Year Deal. Can become a good expirer.

Niko it is an over pay, but it is for 2 years. im not complaining. We needed a guy like him next to Lopez.[/QUOTE]

The two are not mutually exclusive. It's an overpay and a good signing. You know i've always pushed for Nets to resign. Same with Lin.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]They are returning two starters. Dwill and hump. Brook Lopez missed 61 games and Wallace played half a season. Then they are adding a Perenial 18 ppg scorer. And if the nets let hump escape they won't fill his shoes. And Asik is a scrub. Yeah he's a hard worker but hump is too and he can score and rebound 100x better then Asik. Asik won't get better. All he can do is hustle and play defense. He will never learn to put the ball in the basket.[/QUOTE]
you do realize that there is a whole half of the game that is defense? and that asik was basically the best defender, statistically, in the entire league last year? he played quite a few 4th quarter minutes over noah. Dude is a potential game changer on the right team. and hes signing at about the right level for a solid true center. Who cares if he doesnt demand the ball on offense? As long as he sets screens and knows his limited role, hes worth it.

[QUOTE=boozehound]then, pray tell, what is the worst contract this offseason? I cant think of one worse than this. Maybe Crash? Lin and Asik are about 8 mil per and both much more impactful than this dude, despite his statline. Besides, they had to be structured that way to pry them as RFA away from their former teams. People seem to forget how terrible this team was last year, and they are returning three of the starters but are now playoff bound?[/QUOTE]
I'd say Jeff Green's contract is worse. A 5 mil increase for a non starter who didn't even play last season and didn't even play well before then.

Humphries' contract is only a two year one so it can be a valuable trade asset quickly.

[QUOTE=ballup]I'd say Jeff Green's contract is worse. A 5 mil increase for a non starter who didn't even play last season and didn't even play well before then.

Humphries' contract is only a two year one so it can be a valuable trade asset quickly.[/QUOTE]
forgot about green. probably worse. same with fields.

[QUOTE=boozehound]you do realize that there is a whole half of the game that is defense? and that asik was basically the best defender, statistically, in the entire league last year? he played quite a few 4th quarter minutes over noah. Dude is a potential game changer on the right team. and hes signing at about the right level for a solid true center. Who cares if he doesnt demand the ball on offense? As long as he sets screens and knows his limited role, hes worth it.[/QUOTE]
I like how Net fans say "Brook Lopez missed 61 games" like it's a good thing. He missed with a stress fracture of his foot. Missing a season with an injury that is a structural problem and not a "i fell and hurt something" problem is not a positive.

[QUOTE=niko]I like how Net fans say "Brook Lopez missed 61 games" like it's a good thing. He missed with a stress fracture of his foot. Missing a season with an injury that is a structural problem and not a "i fell and hurt something" problem is not a positive.[/QUOTE]
what are you talking about? Yao was fine with his feet after that first stress fracture. oh wait.


and, yes, nyets fans, I do understand why they signed this deal (to be able to take more shit back from the magic in january), but it doesnt make it any better of a deal.

[QUOTE=boozehound]you do realize that there is a whole half of the game that is defense? and that asik was basically the best defender, statistically, in the entire league last year? he played quite a few 4th quarter minutes over noah. Dude is a potential game changer on the right team. and hes signing at about the right level for a solid true center. Who cares if he doesnt demand the ball on offense? As long as he sets screens and knows his limited role, hes worth it.[/QUOTE]
And hump was 5th in rebounding overall. As a PF.. To go along with his marvelous rebounding he averaged 13 points per game. hump is a much better player then Asik. Hump is a gritty tough player that never backs down. The only thing Asik has on him is moving quicker on his feet.

[QUOTE=boozehound]what are you talking about? Yao was fine with his feet after that first stress fracture. oh wait.


and, yes, nyets fans, I do understand why they signed this deal (to be able to take more shit back from the magic in january), but it doesnt make it any better of a deal.[/QUOTE]
Because in January Lopez and Humphries will leave the Magic with $15M in cap room two years from now instead of only $5M. :facepalm Because that was the big issue. Not recreating the Nets kick ass team from 2 years ago sans Deron.

[QUOTE=niko]I like how Net fans say "Brook Lopez missed 61 games" like it's a good thing. He missed with a stress fracture of his foot. Missing a season with an injury that is a structural problem and not a "i fell and hurt something" problem is not a positive.[/QUOTE]
Highlight the part where you believe I implied Lopez being injured was a positive... I said that the nets had a huge void with him being gone and will be ecstatic to have him back.. If he's injured it's terrible obviously.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Highlight the part where you believe I implied Lopez being injured was a positive... I said that the nets had a huge void with him being gone and will be ecstatic to have him back.. If he's injured it's terrible obviously.[/QUOTE]
Not you, every analysis of the Nets assumes Lopez not only being back but being awesome. It's as likely his foot snaps as he becomes a 20-10 force. It's ignored completely. To me it's like when people say "if Amare is the old Amare", yes IF. That's a huge freaking if. Lopez coming off that injury grabbing board, defending, moving like crazy - that's an IF.

Niko, your displeasure in the nets succeeding demonstrates a huge weakness. Do you hear net fans ragging on the Knicks. Did you hear me criticize not signing Lin and signing Felton? I praised the Felton signing. The way you comment on every move the nets make with negativity is extremely annoying. The Knicks history is shame should not open a path of hate for you aimed toasted the nets.

A big heavy guy like Lopez out the whole season with a foot injury? That is generally bad news for the future of a player like that.

We all hope it's an isolated incident, but the history of big men with foot injuries gives us the right to be skeptical about his health.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Niko, your displeasure in the nets succeeding demonstrates a huge weakness. Do you hear net fans ragging on the Knicks. Did you hear me criticize not signing Lin and signing Felton? I praised the Felton signing. The way you comment on every move the nets make with negativity is extremely annoying. The Knicks history is shame should not open a path of hate for you aimed toasted the nets.[/QUOTE]
I've said for like five weeks the Nets should sign Humphries and i said in this thread that while it's overvalued (it is) it's a good signing. So go away.

You are a total homer thus you cannot accept Humphries is overpaid albeit necessary. Like i want Lin to be. But i'm not a homer, so i can say he will be overpaid. :applause:

Let me rephrase, i am a bit of a homer, but not delusional like you.

[QUOTE=niko]I've said for like five weeks the Nets should sign Humphries and i said in this thread that while it's overvalued (it is) it's a good signing. So go away.

You are a total homer thus you cannot accept Humphries is overpaid albeit necessary. Like i want Lin to be. But i'm not a homer, so i can say he will be overpaid. :applause:

Let me rephrase, i am a bit of a homer, but not delusional like you.[/QUOTE]

He isn't overpaid though. He earned 10 million last season. He is earning a couple million more this season. Overpaid is going from a rookie contract to 10 million a year. (Lin, others) He has earned this money. He played on consecutive one year deals and proved that he can be a double double machine. Joe Johnson is overpaid though. He earned 10 million last year and nobody said he was overpaid. He earned 2 million more and all of a sudden he is the most overpaid player. Even though he finished 5th in rebounding in the NBA. He 27 and will continue to polish other parts of his game and get better.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]He isn't overpaid though. He earned 10 million last season. He is earning a couple million more this season. Overpaid is going from a rookie contract to 10 million a year. (Lin, others) He has earned this money. He played on consecutive one year deals and proved that he can be a double double machine. Joe Johnson is overpaid though. He earned 10 million last year and nobody said he was overpaid. He earned 2 million more and all of a sudden he is the most overpaid player. Even though he finished 5th in rebounding in the NBA. He 27 and will continue to polish other parts of his game and get better.[/QUOTE]
No other team would pony up $8M a year but the Nets gave him $12M a year. Why is that?

[QUOTE=niko]No other team would pony up $8M a year but the Nets gave him $12M a year. Why is that?[/QUOTE]
Bobcats offered him 28/3. That's 9 mill a year. I heard NOONE saying he was overpaid last year at 10 million so nobody has the right to say he's overpaid at 2 million more.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Bobcats offered him 28/3. That's 9 mill a year. I heard [B]NOONE saying he was overpaid last year at 10 million [/B]so nobody has the right to say he's overpaid at 2 million more.[/QUOTE]

False. Even at 8 million I thought he was overpaid. You can insert somewhere around 30-40 rebounders in the league today to do Humphries job who wouldn't do worse.

[QUOTE=LJJ]False. Even at 8 million I thought he was overpaid. You can insert somewhere around 30-40 PFs in the league today to do Humphries job who wouldn't do worse.[/QUOTE]
False. He was 5th in rebounding and averaged 14 Ppg. You can't name me "30-40" power forwards who can match that. Feel free to loom stupid and attempt naming me the supposed list.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]False. He was 5th in rebounding and averaged 14 Ppg. You can't name me "30-40" power forwards who can match that. Feel free to loom stupid and attempt naming me the supposed list.[/QUOTE]

His rivals for those garbage points and rebounds were Johan Petro and Shelden Williams. Ridiculous.

So Humphries gets 10 rebounds and 13 points playing next to absolute dog shit, while the Nets get outhustled and outscored on the block every single game. There are definitely 40 bigs in the league who would do at least as good when put in Humphries position. Easily.

wow. not sure what to say.

If the money is coming from Russia who cares?

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Bobcats offered him 28/3. That's 9 mill a year. I heard NOONE saying he was overpaid last year at 10 million so nobody has the right to say he's overpaid at 2 million more.[/QUOTE]
:lol It was a nice signing regardless. Not sure why this bothers you so much. I love Melo, but he's overpaid. I want Lin back but he will be overpaid. Amare is overpaid. Chandler, considering big man contracts, that one is ok. Novak, love him, had to do it, overpaid.

Welcome to the NBA.

So this becomes what, the second highest paid front-court in the league? And you're getting 34/17 with no defense out of it.

Funny offseason.

1. Players get overpaid
2. Fans of teams that overpaid players say "good deal"

:roll:

What happened to the fans that just told the truth? Come on.

As far as Kris Kardashian I thought $10mil per was too much (over 4yrs). $12mil per? Ouch. What does the BK Nets payroll look like, they gotta be close to luxary tax.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]And hump was 5th in rebounding overall. As a PF.. To go along with his marvelous rebounding he averaged 13 points per game. hump is a much better player then Asik. Hump is a gritty tough player that never backs down. The only thing Asik has on him is moving quicker on his feet.[/QUOTE]

Asik, statistically, was the best defender on the best defensive team in the league.

Hump was 5th in rebounding playing for....the Nets. As the only legitimate big in the starting lineup, and really on the team in general.

Big difference.

[QUOTE=GOBB]Funny offseason.

1. Players get overpaid
2. Fans of teams that overpaid players say "good deal"

:roll:

What happened to the fans that just told the truth? Come on.

As far as Kris Kardashian I thought $10mil per was too much (over 4yrs). $12mil per? Ouch. What does the BK Nets payroll look like, they gotta be close to luxary tax.[/QUOTE]
They are over. I know because next year the Nets cannot receive Howard in a S&T because they are more than $4M over the tax line.

[QUOTE=GOBB]Funny offseason.

1. Players get overpaid
2. Fans of teams that overpaid players say "good deal"

:roll:

What happened to the fans that just told the truth? Come on.

As far as Kris Kardashian I thought $10mil per was too much (over 4yrs). $12mil per? Ouch. What does the BK Nets payroll look like, they gotta be close to luxary tax.[/QUOTE]

He's overpaid, but I think it's fine. We're trying to become a force for the ECF here. Either you commit to that goal or you're just wasting everyone's time. IF we decided to give him this contract when we were BAD and destined to be BAD, like the previous two seasons, I'd be inflamed. But if we're trying to get to the ECF and he's the best option to help us do that? Go ahead spend the money. Two years will go by and if he's not worth it, he can moved as an expirer the way Rashard was moved this year.

It's more illegitimate when bystanders are arguing that there are 30-40 people who can do what Kris did the last two seasons. There were 10 other teams that had less than 30 wins last year, and only two of them averaged anything close to a double double, the Kings (Cousins) and Pistons (Monroe). Thinking anyone can average a double double on a bad team is laughable and inane.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]He isn't overpaid though. He earned 10 million last season. He is earning a couple million more this season. Overpaid is going from a rookie contract to 10 million a year. (Lin, others) He has earned this money. He played on consecutive one year deals and proved that he can be a double double machine. Joe Johnson is overpaid though. He earned 10 million last year and nobody said he was overpaid. He earned 2 million more and all of a sudden he is the most overpaid player. Even though he finished 5th in rebounding in the NBA. He 27 and will continue to polish other parts of his game and get better.[/QUOTE]
at least get your facts straight. lin will make 5 mil next year

[QUOTE=LJJ]His rivals for those garbage points and rebounds were Johan Petro and Shelden Williams. Ridiculous.

So Humphries gets 10 rebounds and 13 points playing next to absolute dog shit, while the Nets get outhustled and outscored on the block every single game. There are definitely 40 bigs in the league who would do at least as good when put in Humphries position. Easily.[/QUOTE]
Wow your so dumb and uninformed. So averaging a double double is based on your team rather then your skill? Why didn't petro average 8 rebounds when playing alongside sheldan? Geez how naive haters are. He is still due to average around 10 rebounds a game. He's not going to stop rebounding just because he has a good team around him.

[QUOTE=boozehound]at least get your facts straight. lin will make 5 mil next year[/QUOTE]
And the season prior he made 800k. That's a 530% increase in salary from one season to the next. Hump went from 10 million to 12 million. That's a 20% increase. You do the math.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]And the season prior he made 800k. That's a 530% increase in salary from one season to the next. Hump went from 10 million to 12 million. That's a 20% increase. You do the math.[/QUOTE]
as usual, its a vc3 is a moron.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Wow your so dumb and uninformed. So averaging a double double is based on your team rather then your skill? Why didn't petro average 8 rebounds when playing alongside sheldan? Geez how naive haters are. He is still due to average around 10 rebounds a game. He's not going to stop rebounding just because he has a good team around him.[/QUOTE]

Yes. When no other person on your team tries to get rebounds and you are the only person playing close to the basket: it is easier to get rebounds. Elementary basketball.

Johan Petro and Shelden Williams don't belong on an NBA roster, period. Humphries is a solid rotation big, worth about 4 million per year. He's not even that much better than he was during his Toronto days, but back in those days there were studs on his roster like Rasho Nesterovic, who provided superior impact to Humphries in every single way.

[QUOTE=wang4three]He's overpaid, but I think it's fine. We're trying to become a force for the ECF here. Either you commit to that goal or you're just wasting everyone's time. IF we decided to give him this contract when we were BAD and destined to be BAD, like the previous two seasons, I'd be inflamed. But if we're trying to get to the ECF and he's the best option to help us do that? Go ahead spend the money. Two years will go by and if he's not worth it, he can moved as an expirer the way Rashard was moved this year.

It's more illegitimate when bystanders are arguing that there are 30-40 people who can do what Kris did the last two seasons. There were 10 other teams that had less than 30 wins last year, and only two of them averaged anything close to a double double, the Kings (Cousins) and Pistons (Monroe). Thinking anyone can average a double double on a bad team is laughable and inane.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Nets appear to be pushing all the chips in. I guess when you step back and see how much money they've shelled out this offseason, Kris at $12mil over 2yrs is right on par. I laughed at them considerably when they struck out on clearing all that cap space for the prize winner Travis Outlaw only to get rid of him a year later. Having Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace, Joe Johnson as your big 3, resigning Brook Shields and Kris Kardashian? Not bad. Ton of cash being dished out and owed, but this was the team that put up the Blueprint for a Dynasty mural. :oldlol: Cant talk about it and not be about it.

[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Wow your so dumb and uninformed. So averaging a double double is based on your team rather then your skill? Why didn't petro average 8 rebounds when playing alongside sheldan? Geez how naive haters are. He is still due to average around 10 rebounds a game. He's not going to stop rebounding just because he has a good team around him.[/QUOTE]

Listen, anyone with eyes and half a brain who has watched Hump (like you know, last season) is going to think this is an overpay, by the way if you want to call a person 'dumb' maybe get 'you're' correct, before the irony gets too heavy.

Was it a bad move? We'll see, knee jerk reactions especially without quality information and context, such as what the FO is planning to do with this, are pretty useless.

Carry on :hammerhead:

Prok reminds me of the old Mark Cuban. Spend to spend.

[QUOTE=LJJ]Yes. When no other person on your team tries to get rebounds and you are the only person playing close to the basket: it is easier to get rebounds. Elementary basketball.

Johan Petro and Shelden Williams don't belong on an NBA roster, period. Humphries is a solid rotation big, worth about 4 million per year. He's not even that much better than he was during his Toronto days, but back in those days there were studs on his roster like Rasho Nesterovic, who provided superior impact to Humphries in every single way.[/QUOTE]

There were 11 teams under 30 wins this year. Only two of those teams had a guy that averaged a double-double: The Nets with Kris and the Kings with Cousins. Then you had the Pistons and Warriors who had Greg Monroe and David Lee that were very close to a double-double.

If it was so easy, then how come all the other bad teams don't have guys that do it, if there are 30-40 options available to them?