[QUOTE=DTreats]Top 15 SF
Top 10 PF
Top 5 C
Big 3:roll:[/QUOTE]
LMFAO:applause:
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[QUOTE=DTreats]Top 15 SF
Top 10 PF
Top 5 C
Big 3:roll:[/QUOTE]
LMFAO:applause:
when will people start to see Jeremy Lin is not that awesome
[QUOTE=livingby3's]when will people start to see Jeremy Lin is not that awesome[/QUOTE]
october 31
[QUOTE=LosBulls]Melo Top 5 SF
Amare Top 5 PF
Chandler Top 5 C[/QUOTE]
Just a sample of how bad their big 3 is.
Howard
Bryant
Melo
Gasol
Nash
Amare
Chandler
LA's 4th best player is better then NY's 2nd best player, heck I can make an argument that both Pau and Nash are technically more impactful then Melo.
Eh, media can hype 'em all they want. They'll be good, but not great, probably a 2nd round exit. Nothing wrong with a player talking big about his team. I mean, it's a definite case of hubris or wishful thinking or whatever, but that's to be expected.
The only player I'd want from the Knicks is Tyson Chandler. He's actually been a pivotal player on a championship team.
IF NY get to have a big 3, then here is more so called "big 3's".
Deron Williams, Joe Johnson and Khris Humphries
Hibbert, West, Granger
Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Kemba Walker
In terms of impact, the two bigs stars are actually the ones who used to be overrated (no longer though since being on the Knicks has put a target sign on their back, they're clearly elite players...) while Tyson Chandler was the underrated one.
His play may not be as eye-pleasing, but it is extremely meaningful. He rebounds, anchors a defense, doesn't fumble passes, and brings tons of intangibles to the table like good communication, energy, leadership, and a team first attitude.
Not only do advanced stats paint him as a top center in the NBA, but he is immensely respected around the league, which is why he was selected as part of the US Olympic Team and why Dirk mainly credited his presence for his championship.
[QUOTE=RoseCity07]The only player I'd want from the Knicks is Tyson Chandler. He's actually been a pivotal player on a championship team.[/QUOTE]
You should focus more on passing on MJ's and choosing cripple players in the draft.
[QUOTE=BoutPractice]In terms of impact, the two bigs stars are actually the ones who used to be overrated (no longer though since being on the Knicks has put a target sign on their back, they're clearly elite players...) while Tyson Chandler was the underrated one.
His play may not be as eye-pleasing, but it is extremely meaningful. He rebounds, anchors a defense, doesn't fumble passes, and brings tons of intangibles to the table like good communication, energy, leadership, and a team first attitude.
Not only do advanced stats paint him as a top center in the NBA, but he is immensely respected around the league, which is why he was selected as part of the US Olympic Team and why Dirk mainly credited his presence for his championship.[/QUOTE]
Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C
All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3
[QUOTE=Niquesports]Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C
All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3[/QUOTE]
Amare ain't top 20 anymore, Melo is top ten and being top ten C doesn't mean much.
If NY has a big 3, then like 15 teams have a big 3. Lol
[QUOTE=Story Up]Amare ain't top 20 anymore, Melo is top ten and being top ten C doesn't mean much.
If NY has a big 3, then like 15 teams have a big 3. Lol[/QUOTE]
Name 15 teams that have that.
This big 3 crap is stupid. It's just another lame-assed Stern-era marketing ploy that doesn't have any real validity.
It's the same nonsense as adding a third All-Nba team.
The same nonsense as rewarding mediocrity by having an extra round of playoffs with undeserving 7th and 8th seeds, and sometimes undeserving 6th seeds.
Any true contender is going to have positive-sum players who successfully mesh their skills.
Do the Knicks have that? What teams do?
Bryant, Nash, Howard
James, Wade, Bosh
Westbrook, Durant, Harden
Parker, Duncan, Manu
Johnson, Williams, Lopez
Bynum, Holiday, Turner
Granger, Hibbert, West
Rose, Deng, Noah
Paul, Griffin, Butler
Garnett, Pierce, Rondo
Randolph, Gay, Gasol
That's 11 I'd take over NY's trio any day. Quit overrating your shit team, they haven't done shit with that trio.
[QUOTE=Story Up]Bryant, Nash, Howard
James, Wade, Bosh
Westbrook, Durant, Harden
Parker, Duncan, Manu
Johnson, Williams, Lopez
Bynum, Holiday, Turner
Granger, Hibbert, West
Rose, Deng, Noah
Paul, Griffin, Butler
Garnett, Pierce, Rondo
Randolph, Gay, Gasol
That's 11 I'd take over NY's trio any day. Quit overrating your shit team, they haven't done shit with that trio.[/QUOTE]
Some of these are a joke. Did you really list Evan Turner? :roll:
Derrick Rose is about to miss the whole season as well.
And what about the other 4 teams? You said 15 teams at least.
[QUOTE=Story Up]Bryant, Nash, Howard, [B]Gasol - Big 4[/B]
James, Wade, Bosh -[B] Big 3[/B]
Westbrook, Durant, Harden - [B]3 but not one is big[/B] :D
Parker, Duncan, Manu - [B]Old 3[/B]
Johnson, Williams, Lopez -[B] 2 and a half[/B]
Bynum, Holiday, Turner - [B]Big 1[/B]
Granger, Hibbert, West - [B]No one[/B]
Rose, Deng, Noah - [B]Big injuries[/B]
Paul, Griffin, Butler - [B]Big Flop[/B]
Garnett, Pierce, Rondo - [B]Big 2 old and 1 new [/B]
Randolph, Gay, Gasol - [B]Big 2 and a Gay[/B]
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[QUOTE=Story Up]Amare ain't top 20 anymore, Melo is top ten and being top ten C doesn't mean much.
If NY has a big 3, then like 15 teams have a big 3. Lol[/QUOTE]
I would say Amare is still boardline TOP 20. THe mix of Mello,Amare just hasn't completely evolved yet.IF you say there are 10 PF over Amare I'm finished talking.
Some would say Mello is TOp 5.
I would say its a wash between Chandler and Bosh
[QUOTE=QuebecBaller]Fixed[/QUOTE]
K? Why can't you idiots realize those trios were far more succesful then the dysfunctional garbage that's Melo/Amare/Chandler. Just a terrible combo. A ball hog PF and SF, and offensively difficient center; none are great play makers, Melo/amare are terrible defenders, amare is a garbage rebounder and shot blocker who also has injury problems and most importantly, this trio hasn't achieved anything worth speaking about.
Yet you dipshit have the audacity to insult other trios who are far more cohesive and have achieved more.
K ****** ass knick fans.
[QUOTE=Niquesports]Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C
All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3[/QUOTE]
LMAO
Half of the posters on here have such worthless lives that they spend their time ripping on a team 'they don't care about', on an online forum, gutless ****s.
The 'Big 3 term' was given to them by the media, not self appointed. But anyway keep wasting time of your pointless existence hating on the Knicks:lol
[QUOTE=Niquesports]Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C
All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3[/QUOTE]
Chandler has never played in an all star game.
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Muck Felo
[QUOTE=TheeBeast]Chandler is a role plyer, not a top 5 center. [/QUOTE]
He plays the role of USA Olympic team's starting center. :pimp:
I get ragging on Amare now, but people are straight hating if you are down on Chandler. He's a great player, makes a huge impact on defense. he rebounds, and he scores enough that he's not a liability. That's a center's job, no?
Wow people need to get off the Knicks. Calling Melo, Chandler and Amare a big 3 is truly laughable, but they can surprise a lot of teams if their 2 all star players decide to take their head outta their ass and give consistent effort.
[QUOTE=niko]I get ragging on Amare now, but people are straight hating if you are down on Chandler. He's a great player, makes a huge impact on defense. he rebounds, and he scores enough that he's not a liability. That's a center's job, no?[/QUOTE]
Yup. And, he was a glue piece to a championship team, per all the notable players on that team.
Sadly, Amare's failings nullify so much of what that frontcourt truly [I]could[/I] be.
[QUOTE=Smoke117]Howard, Bynum, Garnett, Jefferson, M. Gasol, Bogut, Horford, Noah. There's a few right there.[/QUOTE]
wait seriously? horford, noah, bogut? Please stop embarrassing yourself.
[QUOTE=Knicksfever2010]wait seriously? horford, noah, bogut? Please stop embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE]
Embarrassing yourself? Please tell me what Chandler can do offensively besides an alley oop or dunk. I watched all 66 of the knicks games and his offensively highlights include one post up play where he hit a sky hook and 2 cross overs where he took his man off the dribble. He probably got off his own shot about 5 times this season.
[QUOTE=Story Up]K? Why can't you idiots realize those trios were far more succesful then the dysfunctional garbage that's Melo/Amare/Chandler. Just a terrible combo. A ball hog PF and SF, and offensively difficient center; none are great play makers, Melo/amare are terrible defenders, amare is a garbage rebounder and shot blocker who also has injury problems and most importantly, this trio hasn't achieved anything worth speaking about.
Yet you dipshit have the audacity to insult other trios who are far more cohesive and have achieved more.
K ****** ass knick fans.[/QUOTE]
Where did I say that the Knicks trio is better than the others? I just put other names than "Big 3". The Knicks players were not in the list so I didn't wrote anything about them
idiot :lol
By the way, I'm not a knicks fan Mr. Know-it-All. I don't have a favorite team since 2008. (The Sonics were my favorite team)
[QUOTE=FreezingTsmoove]Embarrassing yourself? Please tell me what Chandler can do offensively besides an alley oop or dunk. I watched all 66 of the knicks games and his offensively highlights include one post up play where he hit a sky hook and 2 cross overs where he took his man off the dribble. He probably got off his own shot about 5 times this season.[/QUOTE]
please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint. I would suggest that you go play in traffic.
[QUOTE=Knicksfever2010]please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint. I would suggest that you go play in traffic.[/QUOTE]
This, the only reason Chandler isn't a top 5 center is if we are "assuming" everyone is fully healthy, which half the center's aren't and playing to their full potential. For a player that has 'no offensive game' 11ppg from solely feeding of Melo & Stat's leftovers is pretty darn good.
[QUOTE=Knicksfever2010]please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, [B]bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint.[/B] I would suggest that you go play in traffic.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. Bogut is the 2nd best REAL (as Kevin Garnett is playing out of position) defensive center in the league after Dwight Howard. The 2011 Bucks were one of the top defensive teams in the league and the main reason was Andrew Bogut. An healthy Bogut is easily better than Chandler. He's better defensively and he's far better offensively when he's confident and not worried about getting hurt. Hopefully this upcoming the 2012-2013 season we'll see a turn in luck for him as far as his health goes because he can easily be the 3rd best center in the league after Howard and Bynum if healthy and confident.
[QUOTE=Smoke117]You're an idiot. Bogut is the 2nd best REAL (as Kevin Garnett is playing out of position) defensive center in the league after Dwight Howard. The 2011 Bucks were one of the top defensive teams in the league and the main reason was Andrew Bogut. An healthy Bogut is easily better than Chandler. He's better defensively and he's far better offensively when he's confident and not worried about getting hurt. Hopefully this upcoming the 2012-2013 season we'll see a turn in luck for him as far as his health goes because he can easily be the 3rd best center in the league after Howard and Bynum if healthy and confident.[/QUOTE]
why arent you playing traffic like I instructed you to do? GO ON-GET!!!
btw bogut averaged 11.3 points per game in 2011, tyson chandler averaged THE SAME, AND chandler averaged ONE MORE REBOUND per game.
*I dont understand your hatred for NYC. Did you go there once and get mugged? Maybe you hit on another man and he turned you down? Or is it that after a one night stand w/ another man, you woke up handcuffed to the bed w/ your watch and wallet GONE - like your pride and dignity?
[QUOTE=Knicksfever2010]why arent you playing traffic like I instructed you to do? GO ON-GET!!!
btw bogut averaged 11.3 points per game in 2011, tyson chandler averaged THE SAME, AND chandler averaged ONE MORE REBOUND per game.
*I dont understand your hatred for NYC. Did you go there once and get mugged? Maybe you hit on another man and he turned you down? Or is it that after a one night stand w/ another man, you woke up handcuffed to the bed w/ your watch and wallet GONE - like your pride and dignity?[/QUOTE]
I think a robber from NYC entered his house and stole nothing but his virginity and dignity. :roll:
[QUOTE=Trentknicks]I think a robber from NYC entered his house and stole nothing but his virginity and dignity. :roll:[/QUOTE]
you might be right, who knows. I just know he couldnt hang in the city for more than a few minutes without getting fidgety and antsy. I love watching people new to the city act tough at the start but at the end they crying for they mommies. NYC is tough and unforgiving, if you cant hack it here, GO HOME!
[QUOTE=Knicksfever2010]you might be right, who knows. I just know he couldnt hang in the city for more than a few minutes without getting fidgety and antsy. I love watching people new to the city act tough at the start but at the end they crying for they mommies. NYC is tough and unforgiving, if you cant hack it here, GO HOME![/QUOTE]
No doubt his sister was keeping the bed warm waiting for him when he got back :cheers:
Knicks fans trolling at their best.
You're not a Big 3 until you make it past the 1st Round.
[QUOTE=AK47DR91]You're not a Big 3 until you make it past the 1st Round.[/QUOTE]
WHY DO YOU CARE??
[QUOTE=Knicksfever2010]why arent you playing traffic like I instructed you to do? GO ON-GET!!!
btw bogut averaged 11.3 points per game in 2011, tyson chandler averaged THE SAME, AND chandler averaged ONE MORE REBOUND per game.
*I dont understand your hatred for NYC. Did you go there once and get mugged? Maybe you hit on another man and he turned you down? Or is it that after a one night stand w/ another man, you woke up handcuffed to the bed w/ your watch and wallet GONE - like your pride and dignity?[/QUOTE]
Bogut averaged 12.8ppg/11.1rpg in 2011 (so wtf are you talking about?) and 15.9ppg the year before when he broke his arm. The reason his offense fell so much is he wasn't using the arm during the season he came back not trusting in it. Either way you don't even have your seasons correct you moron. You are talking about stats he averaged through this last 2012 season in which he played 12 games before he broke his ankle.