10 seconds left, tied up, ball in Jordans hands. Who do you chose to defend him?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AhmLH6eJPk[/url]

Payton.

[QUOTE=andgar923]Are you serious?

Mj was getting mostly open looks and beating him with the first step, while Kobe was shooting mostly contested jumpers.[/QUOTE]


Kobe was splitting MJ and Pippen....blowing past both of em'...teenage Koas doppin 33 n limited minutes

deoyed PIP in Portland as a 20 year old....and dopped 42 on MJ in 1 hlf quarters

[QUOTE=scm5]Pippen or Kobe.

Pippen was the better overall defender, but Kobe is probably one of the best single possession defenders.[/QUOTE]

yep kobe might not be the best defender all game but in any single possession that he puts every ounce of effort into he will make his opposing player look like a scrub

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4[/url]

many people use this video to support kobe as good defender, but got to say its those dedicated single possession of intense defense that gives him the edge in this kind of situation.

lol lebron is not as good a 1 on 1 defender as kobe ( when he wants to go 100% )

lebron just does chase down blocks and passing lane steals

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4[/url]

Johnnie Cochran

[QUOTE=bballnoob1192]yep kobe might not be the best defender all game but in any single possession that he puts every ounce of effort into he will make his opposing player look like a scrub

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4[/url]

many people use this video to support kobe as good defender, but got to say its those dedicated single possession of intense defense that gives him the edge in this kind of situation.[/QUOTE]


go back and watch the 2000's Finals...Kobe played D like that on Jackson/miller nearly the whole game...90' of h3ll

[QUOTE=bballnoob1192]yep kobe might not be the best defender all game but in any single possession that he puts every ounce of effort into he will make his opposing player look like a scrub

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4[/url]

many people use this video to support kobe as good defender, but got to say its those dedicated single possession of intense defense that gives him the edge in this kind of situation.[/QUOTE]

You can just as easily go find videos of Wade crossing him up. I particularly remember a youtube video of Gilbert Arenas crossing him up multiple times in highlight reel fashion.


Not saying he's not a great defender, but to say something like "those dedicated single possessions are what amazes me" is basically just giving his other plays a weak excuse, chalking it up to "Eh, he wasn't trying". And that exposes faulty logic.

[QUOTE=Dragonyeuw]Pippen. Moreso than other elite perimeter players, he has the most experience guarding MJ on a day to day basis and would be more familiar with his tendencies than anyone else.[/QUOTE]

Jordan would also be more familar with Pippen's defensive strategy than anyone else. With that said, I still think that Pippen would be the best option. Even he would have a slim chance of stopping Jordan even if Phil Jackson himself drew up the defensive scheme for Pippen and the defense.

LeBron / Wade?

[QUOTE=LBJFTW]Jordan would also be more familar with Pippen's defensive strategy than anyone else. [/QUOTE]

Maybe, but Pippen would still have an advantage over other elite defenders because of that familiarity. So yeah, I suppose they'd be familiar with each other, but Pippen gives you as good a chance defensively as anyone else.

Pippen or Lebron, they have the correct size/athleticism/IQ to make it more tougher for MJ than anybody... if Jordan blows by then especially Lebron has this amazing closeout blocking ability from any distance, against any player, including Jordan... hell you will see Lebron sometimes just for the fun of it bait you to "blow by" so he can run, takeof and block your shot from behind into the 5th row...

Pippen

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Why not the guy that actually gave Jordan more trouble?? John Starks

Hmm...I'm surprised there are not more people saying Gary Payton.

He held MJ to .414 FG in the 1996 Finals. In the closing game, MJ went 5-23 on FG, and had 7 assists and 5 turnovers.

That was probably MJ's worst Finals Performance out of his 6 appearances. Looks like Payton did a good job.

If there is no screen than Jordan will have a tough time even just recieving the ball with Lebron on him, he is extremly quick & much bigger & stronger than MJ was... he ragdolls even the likes of Dwight or Gasol in that department [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3O94yv4vc[/url]

Pistons Rodman

Michael Cooper

1. Pippen
2. Shutdownbe

MJ is too savvy for Kobe......scores easily. MJ knew he was the best, accepted the challenge, and had not one ounce of fear.

Alphawolf24 accept it.

obv Lebron

Prime Payton.

Bill Russell :pimp:

Not as fast, but fast enough to keep up with him...and any speed difference might be nullified by Bills Length...GOAT clutch offense vs GOAT clutch Defense

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[QUOTE=DuMa]I'll go with Kevin Durant. his length is just too crazy[/QUOTE]


So you didn't watch the finals last season?

bowen

[QUOTE=Mach_3]Michael Cooper was the first thought in my head, then it went to Pippen, prime KG for some reason (i guess was thinking ridiculous length plus the extremely high Defensive IQ he has) then i went to Bowen, and for some other reason Moncrief. Then i started thinking about Frazier and a couple others.

Truthfully i don't even think i have an answer to this question now that i think about it :lol[/QUOTE]

Prime KG is VERY INTERESTING! KG back in the day was a guy in my opinion that was capable of defending SG-C. In terms of SG, I always thought more specifically bigger swingmen in that 6'8 to 6'9 range. But MJ early in career was known as a swingman at 6'6. If any 7 footer EVER could defend MJ good it would KG. KG had the lateral quickness and game of a swingman anyway. And let's not forget he played a ton of SF early in his career. His first All Star nod came as a SF.

This is how dumb you kids are...

NOBODY MENTION SOMETHING ALREADY PROVEN AND FACTUAL.
SOMEBODY JORDAN HIMSELF SAID GAVE HIM PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME.

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Gah damn time is passing and the legend of Jordan is surpassing truth. And who ever says LeBron or Wade don't know sh*t about b-ball. Both of them are NOT lock down defenders.

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]Hmm...I'm surprised there are not more people saying Gary Payton.

He held MJ to .414 FG in the 1996 Finals. In the closing game, MJ went 5-23 on FG, and had 7 assists and 5 turnovers.

That was probably MJ's worst Finals Performance out of his 6 appearances. Looks like Payton did a good job.[/QUOTE]

To an extent I think Jordan was worn down by the end of that season, his first full campaign in two years. Payton's defense was only part of the reason he had a subpar series, he managed to get looks but missed shots he'd normally hit.

[QUOTE=LikeABosh]For me it's either Pippen or Lebron[/QUOTE]
Throw a double team and hope Jordan passes the ball, rather have someone else beat me:lol

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Stupid kids know your history!!!

Again who ever say LeBron or Wade don't know sh*t about ball.

Durant ? :oldlol:

Did you not watch the Finals?

For each position
PG - The Glove. I'd like to put Fraizer, but he gambled too much on defense
SG - Dumars. Him and the Pistons gave him the most trouble ever.
SF - Pippen. Great defender, added bonus he knew Jordan's game more than his competitors
PF - Pistons Rodman. The guy was ferocious on defense in his heyday
C - Russell. His competitive spirit would make sure Jordan would have to work for every single point.

Of all those, I'd say Pippen. Dumars is a close second for all the misery the Pistons gave young MJ, but the Pistons system didn't rely on just Dumars getting to Jordan, it relied on everybody. With Pippen, he'd have the most knowledge on what Jordan could and would do. Plus he's one of the great one on one defenders.

How is this even a question? How about we let the greatest defender of all time guard him...

Scottie would give him a ton of problems.

Other players I would let guard him would be LeBron from '10, Prime KG, Artest, and prime Rodman.

[QUOTE=bdreason]Prime Payton.[/QUOTE]
As close as it gets.:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]Artest was pretty quick in Chicago and early Indiana. And i believe there was a quote where MJ said that he wished he could have gone up against Artest's defense when he was in his prime (and MJ played with Artest a lot over the summers when he was making his Wizards comeback).

Also, not saying Lebron could guard MJ, but dismissing him as a defender and using [U]one instance[/U] as evidence is ridiculous. Fine, go ahead and say that he didn't cover Marion that well, but he locked down [b]Rose,[/b] Pierce, and Igoudala that year. This year he played great against Melo and Granger, and did better than Battier could do against Durant. So, I win 5-1 or 6-1.[/QUOTE]
A couple of things, Rose was on a gimpy ankle that took away some of his explosiveness ( Rose had no trouble smoking past LBJ in the 2010 first round series), all LBJ was doing against Rose in the ECFs was play off Rose, inviting him to shoot and funneling Rose to his help D, it was a team effort and LBJ wasn't on Rose except a few possessions at the end of games where he could play off him and force him into jumpshots.

This crap about LBJ "locking down" Rose needs to stop, it's a myth like LBJ being able to defend all 5 positions:facepalm

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Judging by watching tapes of teenage Kobe vs Prime MJ...and Young Kobe vs old MJ...


no doubt Prime Kobe would be able to guard MJ.

Kobe had the foot speed/desire to make[b] MJ take a ill advised shot.[/b]

and on the other side...[b]no way MJ could guard Prime Kobe....Kobe by basically anything he wants.[/b][/QUOTE]


OTOH, Kobe takes "ill advised shots" no matter who's on him:lol

the second bolded part is just a retarded kobe stan spewing his usual ignorant crap:facepalm ,congrats idiot.

[QUOTE=TheMan]A couple of things, Rose was on a gimpy ankle that took away some of his explosiveness ( Rose had no trouble smoking past LBJ in the 2010 first round series), all LBJ was doing against Rose in the ECFs was play off Rose, inviting him to shoot and funneling Rose to his help D, it was a team effort and LBJ wasn't on Rose except a few possessions at the end of games where he could play off him and force him into jumpshots.

This crap about LBJ "locking down" Rose needs to stop, it's a myth like LBJ being able to defend all 5 positions:facepalm[/QUOTE]

Yet Rose himself said "It's pretty hard for me when I'm being guarded by a guy who is 6 inches taller than me yet can keep up with my every move" (not the exact quote, but it was similar).

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]Hmm...I'm surprised there are not more people saying Gary Payton.

He held MJ to .414 FG in the 1996 Finals. In the closing game, MJ went 5-23 on FG, and had 7 assists and 5 turnovers.

That was probably MJ's worst Finals Performance out of his 6 appearances. Looks like Payton did a good job.[/QUOTE]

That whole shit is a myth. I dislike MJ more than anyone, but frankly Payton didn't even defend MJ the first couple of games. He started out on Pippen who was ailing from various injuries and wasn't moved onto Jordan till they were down 0-2 or 0-3. He didn't hold Jordan to anything either, Jordan was just missing shots he usually makes. Go watch that series again and it's clear as day that Gary Payton was not containing anyone, but Michael Jordan was just missing shots he would usually make.

Kobe Bryant
Scottie Pippen
John Starks

Edit: Forgot about Joe Dumars. Thanks for posting a ton of pictures though. :\

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