ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Sry kids, but.... no.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSOHMtPvz8[/url]

No matter what way you try to slice it those guys peaks do not in any way shape or form touch Wilt's. Prime? Perhaps it's debatable due to rings if they are that important to you. But actual individual peak performance? GTFOH the guy owns the record book and nobody has ever even come close to rewriting it. Seriously some of these poll results are flat out embarrassing.[/QUOTE]
Do you not realize MOST of his blocks were ****ing GOALTENDS?

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][IMG]http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/37/3798/XCJIF00Z.jpg[/IMG]
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4 inches shorter, 60 pounds lighter.[/QUOTE]
And just think, Ben Wallace measured over 2 inches shorter than Russell w/o shoes and weighed [I]over 100lbs less than Shaq[/I] - stop reaching Deuce, cherry picking pics isn't going to change the fact that Wilt's peak is the Everest of NBA peaks. Your going on ignore list if you keep sidebarring my thread. I don't feel like hearing your bullshit, once people go on my ignore list they never get removed.

[QUOTE=DatAsh]I'm pretty sure Bill Russell had a higher vertical than Dwight. He was an Olympic caliber high jumper at the time.[/QUOTE]
Prove it.

Here's Dwight

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[IMG]http://everyjoe.com/files/2007/11/dwight-howard-kissing-rim.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://dogandponyshowwebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dwighthowardsupermandunk.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=DatAsh]I'm pretty sure Bill Russell had a higher vertical than Dwight. He was an Olympic caliber high jumper at the time.[/QUOTE]
You do realize High Jumping records from back then don't come close to what they are now?

Imagine Wilt Chamberlain with modern fitness training and steroid usage.

:bowdown:

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]And just think, Ben Wallace measured over 2 inches shorter than Russell w/o shoes and weighed [I]over 100lbs less than Shaq[/I] - stop reaching Deuce, cherry picking pics isn't going to change the fact that Wilt's peak is the Everest of NBA peaks. Your going on ignore list if you keep sidebarring my thread. I don't feel like hearing your bullshit, once people go on my ignore list they never get removed.[/QUOTE]
You think Wilt could just do whatever he wanted and get any post position he wants against this guy?

[IMG]http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/athletes/00016f.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://detroitsportsnation.com/pistons24seconds/files/2012/01/Ben-Wallace11.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/ben_wallace2.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=PHILA]He went toe to toe with Wilt Chamberlain, who had unprecedented physical abilities. :no:




[B]Height:[/B] 7-1
[B]Weight:[/B] Varied from 265 to 320 lbs
[B]Vertical:[/B] 40+ inches
[B]Wingspan:[/B] 7-8
[B]Standing Reach:[/B] 9-6
[B]Hand Length:[/B] 9.5"
[B]Hand Spread:[/B] 11.5"
[B]Bench Press:[/B] 500 lbs
[B]Deadlift:[/B] 625 lbs
[B]Clean & Jerk:[/B] 435 lbs
[B]Shoulder Press:[/B] 400 lbs
[B]40 yard dash:[/B] 4.6 seconds (Barefoot & wearing a suit/tie)
[B]440 yard dash:[/B] 49.0 seconds
[B]880 yard dash:[/B] 1:58.3
[B]High Jump:[/B] 6-6
[B]Broad Jump:[/B] 22 feet
[B]Shot Put:[/B] 53 feet, 4 inches[/QUOTE]

Correction on high jump 6-6.75 and broad jump 22 feet 8 inches

also 46 feet 2.5 inch triple jump

shot put / 880 / 440 is likely not 100% solid figures - (it isn't verifiable as he didn't compete in them in the NCAA)

And Bill Russell had a 6-9.25 high jump and a 23 foot broad jump. :D

[QUOTE=PHILA]
[B]Vertical:[/B] 40+ inches
[B]Bench Press:[/B] 500 lbs
[B]Deadlift:[/B] 625 lbs
[B]Clean & Jerk:[/B] 435 lbs
[B]Shoulder Press:[/B] 400 lbs
[/QUOTE]
:roll:

[quote]high jump 6-6.75 and broad jump 22 feet 8 inches

also 46 feet 2.5 inch triple jump

And Bill Russell had a 6-9.25 high jump and a 23 foot broad jump. [/quote]

:applause:

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]You think Wilt could just do whatever he wanted and get any post position he wants against this guy?

[IMG]http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/athletes/00016f.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://detroitsportsnation.com/pistons24seconds/files/2012/01/Ben-Wallace11.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/ben_wallace2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Look at a picture of Lakers Wilt. Then add steroids and modern fitness training.

He'd eat Ben Wallace for lunch.

[quote=Deuce Bigalow]:roll:[/quote]


As a skinny rookie in '59, Chamberlain could clean & jerk 265 lbs & military press 210 lbs. By the mid 60's those numbers increased to 435 lbs & 400 lbs. According to esteemed author Gary M. Pomerantz in Wilt, 1962: The Night of 100 Points And the Dawn of a New Era, Chamberlain could deadlift 625 lbs. Today his playing weight would likely be around 315-320 lbs, which was not as suited for the up & down style of the era. Remember he did report to camp 315.


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[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CqxIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xwANAAAAIBAJ&pg=3715,469887&dq"]Meriden Journal - Sep 6, 1963[/URL]

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[I]Sports Illustrated - October 26, 1959

Consider the following: he has run the quarter mile in 49 seconds flat, bettered 6 feet 7 in the high jump, put the shot 51 feet, can lift 265 pounds in the clean-and-jerk and 210 in the military press. For none of these feats did Chamberlain prepare himself through normal training; they were casual, offhand achievements by an athlete who has always devoted his free time and effort to basketball.[/I]





[I]The Miami News - Nov 7, 1962

'He can clean and jerk a 375-lb. weight, run the quarter mile in 47s, and high-jump over 6-11.'[/I]




[I]November 29, 1965

NEW YORK (NEA)

This is what a real 40+" vertical looks like


[IMG]http://dallaspenn.com/pics/albums/album02/spudwebb1.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE]Don't see a difference[/QUOTE]

So your just going to bail on the videos you posted ? Okay.

[QUOTE=M.Bustly15A5RU8]Look at a picture of Lakers Wilt. Then add steroids and modern fitness training.

He'd eat Ben Wallace for lunch.[/QUOTE]
And keep in mind Wallace - no matter how buff - is 6-7 listed 240 (prob topped out closer to 255, 260)

Wilt is 7'1 w/o shoes and when he lifted with Arnie weighed 327. Sh*t, even as a scrawny rookie Wilt weighed 258.

Reenactment of Wilt's 100 point game

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFxzqt8Gr6I&feature=related[/url]

[QUOTE]Wilt is 7'1 w/o shoes and when he lifted with Arnie weighed 327.[/QUOTE]

Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?[/QUOTE]
Not sure if "with" he actually might have just lifted on his own for most of the period he was working with him for a movie (though friends of Wilt's do suggest he lifted in the gym with Arnie at least once) - I just know that he weight trained pretty much his whole life but was particularly active for / during the production of Conan the Destroyer - and at the time he was weighed at a very trim looking 327lbs

[IMG]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Wilt-Chamberlain-Arnold-Schwarzenegger-and-Andre-the-Giant.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE]Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-10/sports/30612013_1_elevator-sixers-new-appreciation[/url]

[I]January 10, 2012

I will be 55 in a few months, the age he was when I interviewed him. This gives me a whole new appreciation for that interview. It is natural at this age to reflect on one's decisions in life, to contemplate making the most of the good years that remain.

Wilt seemed in far better shape then than I am now, absolutely no gut, sculpted in his tight T-shirt. The world never fully appreciated what an athlete he was. During the filming of Conan the Destroyer, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, [B][SIZE="4"]Wilt said he put five 50-pound weights on his rib cage, elevated his feet on an incline board, and did 30 sit-ups.

"Arnold couldn't believe it," Wilt said. "He wouldn't even try it."
[/SIZE][/B]
When I met him that day in 1991, the Sixers had just retired his number, and he told me that was "the most moving day of my life." So many fans thanking him. "I should have been the one saying 'Thank you,' " he said.

Wilt died in 1999.

He would have loved the video homage to him the Sixers showed Monday night and will again many times this season to reconnect the team with its legacy.

The man was undeniably Philadelphia's greatest homegrown athlete. He was large, and he was larger than life. And thanks, Wilt, for sharing one day with me.[/I]

[QUOTE=LosBulls]You do realize High Jumping records from back then don't come close to what they are now?[/QUOTE]
You do realize the technique changed don't you? (The fosbury flop adds a foot of potential height).

Damn guys, your quick on this. Thanks. :cheers:

I had watched Conan the Destroyer not too long ago, actually, and thought Wilt was in great shape at the time. Hard to imagine he was in his 50's.

Trench Richardson can bench press [B]475[/B]: [IMG]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trent_richardson.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/Browns/trent-richardson-beast.jpg[/IMG]

Michael Pittman: 485 lbs: [IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/michaelpittman.jpg[/IMG]

Vernon Davis: bench-pressed 465 pounds, power-cleaned 365 pounds -[IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/vernondavis.jpg[/IMG]



And this guy can do 500?....[IMG]http://g.cdn.mersap.com/basquetbol/files/2010/07/wilt2.jpg[/IMG]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwS6dxlR6g[/url]

Oh look, here's the weak un-athletic 6 foot white center Wilt faced his MVP / Ring season in the NBA Finals :oldlol:

[QUOTE=PHILA][url]http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-10/sports/30612013_1_elevator-sixers-new-appreciation[/url]

[I]January 10, 2012

I will be 55 in a few months, the age he was when I interviewed him. This gives me a whole new appreciation for that interview. It is natural at this age to reflect on one's decisions in life, to contemplate making the most of the good years that remain.

Wilt seemed in far better shape then than I am now, absolutely no gut, sculpted in his tight T-shirt. The world never fully appreciated what an athlete he was. During the filming of Conan the Destroyer, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, [B][SIZE="4"]Wilt said he put five 50-pound weights on his rib cage, elevated his feet on an incline board, and did 30 sit-ups.

"Arnold couldn't believe it," Wilt said. "He wouldn't even try it."
[/SIZE][/B]
When I met him that day in 1991, the Sixers had just retired his number, and he told me that was "the most moving day of my life." So many fans thanking him. "I should have been the one saying 'Thank you,' " he said.

Wilt died in 1999.

He would have loved the video homage to him the Sixers showed Monday night and will again many times this season to reconnect the team with its legacy.

The man was undeniably Philadelphia's greatest homegrown athlete. He was large, and he was larger than life. And thanks, Wilt, for sharing one day with me.[/I][/QUOTE]
You think Wilt was as strong as Arnold?

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Trench Richardson can bench press [B]475[/B]: [IMG]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trent_richardson.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/Browns/trent-richardson-beast.jpg[/IMG]

Michael Pittman: 485 lbs: [IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/michaelpittman.jpg[/IMG]

[B]Vernon Davis:[/B] bench-pressed 465 pounds, power-cleaned 365 pounds -[IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/vernondavis.jpg[/IMG]



And this guy can do 500?....[IMG]http://g.cdn.mersap.com/basquetbol/files/2010/07/wilt2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
And out of curiosity I just looked up he only weighs 250lbs? :lol

300+ Wilt >>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't care how jacked a guy looks, if Wilt is a much bigger guy than all of those guys he is very plausibly able to be stronger than them by simple scaling of his muscle mass alone let alone unforseen physical gifts he may have such as high-twitch muscle fiber. He is proportioned like a solid strong athlete except he is upscaled to gargantuan proportions. The rules of physics that apply to these smaller guys don't apply to Wilt, he's naturally got a bigger frame than they do. Can't understand how your so dense that you don't understand this. U seriously must be trolling :oldlol:

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]And out of curiosity I just looked up he only weighs 250lbs? :lol

300+ Wilt >>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't care how jacked a guy looks, if Wilt is a much bigger guy than all of those guys he is very plausibly able to be stronger than them by simple scaling of his muscle mass alone let alone unforseen physical gifts he may have such as high-twitch muscle fiber. He is proportioned like a solid strong athlete except he is upscaled to gargantuan proportions. The rules of physics that apply to these small but jacked guys don't apply to Wilt, he's naturally got a bigger frame than they do. Can't understand how your so dense that you don't understand this. U seriously must be trolling :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Coming from someone who has obviously never benched shit in his life.... zero chance Wilt benched 500 pounds.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]And out of curiosity I just looked up he only weighs 250lbs? :lol

300+ Wilt >>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't care how jacked a guy looks, Wilt is a much bigger guy than all of those guys. He is proportioned like a solid strong athlete except he is upscaled to gargantuan proportions. The rules of physics that apply to these small but jacked guys don't apply to Wilt, he's naturally got a bigger frame than they do. Can't understand how your so dense that you don't understand this. U seriously must be trolling :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:facepalm

The longer and taller you are, the more range of motion.

You seriously are an idiot, you and your old delusional dementia Wilt buddies.
400 pound shoulder press? :facepalm 500 pouund bench press:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
40-50" vert :facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=LosBulls]You do realize High Jumping records from back then don't come close to what they are now?[/QUOTE]

They used a completely different technique.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]You think Wilt could just do whatever he wanted and get any post position he wants against this guy?

[IMG]http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/athletes/00016f.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://detroitsportsnation.com/pistons24seconds/files/2012/01/Ben-Wallace11.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/ben_wallace2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Shaq had his way. 20+ points in 20/23 regular season head-to-head match ups.

I'm sure Wilt would do just fine.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:facepalm

The longer and taller you are, the more range of motion.

You seriously are an idiot, you and your old delusional dementia Wilt buddies.
400 pound shoulder press? :facepalm 500 pouund bench press:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
40-50" vert :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
:roll: mad as hell

all his apparent physical disadvantages he should have had due to leverage never stopped him from doing anything - such as:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSOHMtPvz8&t=1m3s[/url]
(note the full rack on his lat-pulldowns)

Wilt didn't move like he was long... he moved like a genuine athlete. That's what people like you can't accept, - that he wasn't an ordinary big man - he was an [I]incredible[/I] [I]athlete[/I]. The [I]exception[/I] to all of the rules. Not an example of your average joe bound by them. What you think big tall people should be like, isn't what he was like that's why people were so amazed with him. That's why he does sh*t in his highlights that even Shaq didn't do. That's why his peak >>>>>>>>> any other players.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wilt fanboys:lol Your mountain lion wrestling, 20000 women fu*king hero would be a scrub in todays league... JaVale McGee at best:lol

Better than MJ or Shaq??? :roll: You have got to be fu*king joking!!!!

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:facepalm

The longer and taller you are, the more range of motion.

You seriously are an idiot, you and your old delusional dementia Wilt buddies.
400 pound shoulder press? :facepalm 500 pouund bench press:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
40-50" vert :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]


THIS....


I love when people who have never lifted weights bullshit about figures like that...
If you're taller/long armed, you have a much longer range of motion. Its WAY easier for shorter/stockier guys to lift heavier on presses...

500 pound bench? No chance. 400 pound shoulder press?:roll:

Whats with all the stupid old farts coming out this offseason and crapping on about Wilt everyday???:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=coin24]THIS....


I love when people who have never lifted weights bullshit about figures like that...
If you're taller/long armed, you have a much longer range of motion. Its WAY easier for shorter/stockier guys to lift heavier on presses...

500 pound bench? No chance. 400 pound shoulder press?:roll:

Whats with all the stupid old farts coming out this offseason and crapping on about Wilt everyday???:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Right, every person who ever witnessed Wilt do something or other is a liar because a 20 year old couch expert like yourself "knows" about lifting :oldlol:

315lbs in this pic, 327lbs when he was working out in the 80's - and yall think he can't lift as much weight as 250lb people cause you sit on your pc's and look at pics of how much more "buff" the 6-3 250lb dudes looked in their professional photo shoots and football gear

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8LHD3s7-w48/UEa4VWs1xuI/AAAAAAAADlo/vYimbewa8TE/s640/Sequence%252001.Still001.jpg[/IMG]

Side by side Wilt would dwarf those people. Not just in height - but in stature and ever other dimension due to his significantly greater body mass.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]:roll: mad as hell

all his apparent physical disadvantages he should have had due to leverage never stopped him from doing anything - such as:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSOHMtPvz8&t=1m3s[/url]
(note the full rack on his lat-pulldowns)

Wilt didn't move like he was long... he moved like a genuine athlete. That's what people like you can't accept, - that he wasn't an ordinary big man - he was an [I]incredible[/I] [I]athlete[/I]. The [I]exception[/I] to all of the rules. Not an example of your average joe bound by them. What you think big tall people should be like, isn't what he was like that's why people were so amazed with him. That's why he does sh*t in his highlights that even Shaq didn't do. That's why his peak >>>>>>>>> any other players.[/QUOTE]

Cavs.. what do you say to people who say that the # of possessions per game and pace of the 60s/70s was much faster than the 90s or 00s and also the fact that there were much less games to play during the season and especially in the playoffs, where you only had to win 2 playoff seasons for a championship :facepalm

Also just because wilt has the best peak as far as numbers makes him the superior peak player. It's a little fishy that Wilt's peak was 5 years apart (you said his peak was in 62 and 67) while Jordan had essentially a decade long peak and Shaq a little less (7-8 years).

Also both Jordan and Shaq had much more impressive playoff and finals peaks than wilt, showing up big when it really mattered. Both were also forced to play much more playoff games to win their champions (16 games to 8).

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Right, every person who ever witnessed Wilt do something or other is a liar because a 20 year old couch expert like yourself "knows" about lifting :oldlol:

315lbs in this pic, 327lbs when he was working out in the 80's - and yall think he can't lift as much weight as 250lb people cause you sit on your pc's and look at pics of how much more "buff" the 6-3 250lb dudes looked in their professional photo shoots and football gear

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8LHD3s7-w48/UEa4VWs1xuI/AAAAAAAADlo/vYimbewa8TE/s640/Sequence%252001.Still001.jpg[/IMG]

Side by side Wilt would dwarf those people. Not just in height - but in stature and ever other dimension due to his significant amount of greater body mass.[/QUOTE]
No one is saying he isn't strong.

And no he would not dwarf people that are stronger than him. He would just be taller.

[URL="http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm"]http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm[/URL]


[I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97

Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs [B][SIZE=4]l[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=4]i[/SIZE]ke it was a match stick[/B][/SIZE] at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.[/FONT][/I]

[QUOTE=PHILA][URL="http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm"]http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm[/URL]


[I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97

Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs [B][SIZE=4]l[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=4]i[/SIZE]ke it was a match stick[/B][/SIZE] at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, [B][COLOR="Red"]but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/I][/QUOTE]
So 2 years before he died he could bench press more than 465 pounds?

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]So 2 years before he died he could bench press more than 465 pounds?[/QUOTE]
He thinks he can - that doesn't mean he actually could. What comes out of his mouth wasn't the important bit, he's always exaggerated or been over-confident in his own abilities to some extent. But it's what the other person says is the important bit. I like how you glossed right over it lol

Ok, you guys can stick to your high amount of weight Wilt could pick up.

But, lets talk about vertical because we actually have picture of Wilt.

40"+ vertical looks like

[IMG]http://dallaspenn.com/pics/albums/album02/spudwebb1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2345247.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens9187791module81279371photo_1264468455vince_carter_vertical.jpg[/IMG]

Please no bullshit quotes, or that one video that makes me lol everytime cavs or jlolber uses

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Right, every person who ever witnessed Wilt do something or other is a liar because a 20 year old couch expert like yourself "knows" about lifting :oldlol:

315lbs in this pic, 327lbs when he was working out in the 80's - and yall think he can't lift as much weight as 250lb people cause you sit on your pc's and look at pics of how much more "buff" the 6-3 250lb dudes looked in their professional photo shoots and football gear

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8LHD3s7-w48/UEa4VWs1xuI/AAAAAAAADlo/vYimbewa8TE/s640/Sequence%252001.Still001.jpg[/IMG]

Side by side Wilt would dwarf those people. Not just in height - but in stature and ever other dimension due to his significantly greater body mass.[/QUOTE]


Actually i've been lifting for close to 10 years now, obviously you never have as you believe bullshit figures like those:lol
I think its you who sits behind his PC watching shitty old footage of Wilt and fapping. Telling all of us how much he weighed and how great he was:lol


Worse than a LeBron stan...