He loves Nash so much he would rather make threats about Heat/Bron then to post on a Nash related threat! Priceless
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He loves Nash so much he would rather make threats about Heat/Bron then to post on a Nash related threat! Priceless
[QUOTE=Nash]I want Lebron to win so I obviously want his team to win. Doesn't make me a real Heat fan. I'm not even American and have no natural connections to any teams.[/QUOTE]
Ah okay, just checking.
Nothing wrong with that.
[QUOTE=HiphopRelated]backing up a future 1st ballot HOFer vs backing up the combo guard version of Ronnie Brewer?
decisions decisions[/QUOTE]
Play the 6th man role for tactical reasons, behind someone who will never be ahead of him at the end of the game vs backing up a future 1st ballot HOFer who he will never get in ahead of when it counts.
Yes, decisions decisions.
[QUOTE=Nash]I don't support Lakers and I am a Lebron fan, its no secret and I am not acting like I'm not a Bron fan.[/QUOTE]
What's up pauk?
[QUOTE=Nash]I want Lebron to win so I obviously want his team to win. Doesn't make me a real Heat fan. I'm not even American and have no natural connections to any teams.[/QUOTE]
U love Nash so much ur rooting 4 him to lose against Lebron
[QUOTE=Nash]I want Lebron to win so I obviously want his team to win. Doesn't make me a real Heat fan. I'm not even American and have no natural connections to any teams.[/QUOTE]
I think what he's trying to ask is, why isn't your name Lebron?
[QUOTE=G-Funk]He loves Nash so much he would rather make threats about Heat/Bron then to post on a Nash related threat! Priceless[/QUOTE]
Lol exactly.
[QUOTE=G-Funk]U love Nash so much ur rooting 4 him to lose against Lebron[/QUOTE]
Nash was the first player I started to support, Lebron is the player I'm currently more invested in.
I have no idea why this discussions is interesting though because its not like I'm acting as if I'm not a Lebron fan, I'm saying it all the time.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Play the 6th man role for tactical reasons, [B]behind someone who will never be ahead of him at the end of the game[/B] vs backing up a future 1st ballot HOFer who he will never get in ahead of when it counts.
Yes, decisions decisions.[/QUOTE]
he'll be on the floor at the end of games, Miami has closed games out without a pg many times
Wade/Bron handle down the stretch
and where was the bold promised?
At the end of the day, what is Ray Allen going to be for the Heat at this point in his career? A potentially more consistent Mike Miller? If you think he's going to come off the bench and NOT have a career low scoring wise, then you need to go back and watch last season. He's not getting younger and, until he shows otherwise, I'm going to continue to believe most nights his feet/ankles/heels, or whatever it was that was bothering him last year will slow him down another step or two.
Sure, occasionally he'll have a "Ray Allen" type night where he drops 18+ and makes several threes, and that'll cause the Heat fans to flood the board and go on-and-on about how unstoppable they are, but they need to reserve themselves to wait and see how he's playing in March and April leading into the playofs
[QUOTE=HiphopRelated]he'll be on the floor at the end of games, Miami has closed games out without a pg many times
Wade/Bron handle down the stretch
and where was the bold promised?[/QUOTE]
The best clutch shooter on that team is going to be on the bench at the end of the game?
An yes, Avery Bradley was going to on the floor ahead of Ray at the end of the games The point of what Rivers was trying to do was, instead of coming up with good offense, he told Rondo to get as many assists as possible and for Ray to come in with the 2nd unit. At the end of games, Bradley was not going to be on the floor ahead of Allen, unless Allen was just too ass.
Wade is still elite. Even if his minutes are limited, he'll still be playing over 30MPG and be on the floor in the most important stretches.
[QUOTE=Nash][B][U]I want Lebron to win so I obviously want his team to win. This makes me a standard heat fan on ISH. Also im Pauk, LeBrons #1 stan[/U][/B][/QUOTE]
Well said Pauk:applause:
[QUOTE=coin24]Well said Pauk:applause:[/QUOTE]
How about we ask the mods to compare my IP to Pauk's and if we're from the same place I'll leave this place forever and if not you leave? Wanna make that bet?
Ok, I'm have ask the reasonable members of ISH to stop underrating Ray Allen and overrating Battier/Miller/etc...those guys are not and I don't remember a time where they have ever been near Ray Allen's level of shooting....ever.
I honestly think dude will average over 11 ppg with ease. He's going to get the most space he's ever had and it will be up to him, the greatest three point shooter of all time, to hit relatively easy shots. Now I am not saying that he's going to be wide open in the corner camping, but I don't how defenses are going to keep a man on him while keeping Bosh/Bron and Wade in check. That's just too much in my opinion. You have to give up something and Ray shooting with late contests will be a regular thing.
Realistically, he will have slumps, but what's yin without the yang? Dude will also have moments, not just singular games mind you, where he will be unstoppable. A couple of 20+,25+ nights where he will remind of his past days and how great of a shooter he is and was.
Great pickup and if I was Spo, I'm definitely playing lineups with Bosh at center and Bron at PF in the 4th quarter.
I cannot wait to see a lineup like this:
Wade
Allen
Battier
Bron
Bosh
down the stretch. That would be SICK.
[QUOTE=Nash]How about we ask the mods to compare my IP to Pauk's and if we're from the same place I'll leave this place forever and if not you leave? Wanna make that bet?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=coin24]Well said Pauk:applause:[/QUOTE]
I'm Pauk. I might as well be since you think anyone who likes LeBron is Pauk. Anyways, the guy already said he started off liking Nash when he started watching basketball. What's the problem with him liking LeBron too? It's not like he's denying it.
[QUOTE=ihoopallday]I'm Pauk. I might as well be since you think anyone who likes LeBron is Pauk. Anyways, the guy already said he started off liking Nash when he started watching basketball. What's the problem with him liking LeBron too? It's not like he's denying it.[/QUOTE]
Who just "likes" players anyway? This is a team sport.
Welcome to ISH, dedicated Miami LeBrons supporters:rockon:
If anything, Nash should take it as an insult that he comes across as similar to Pauk:lol
[QUOTE=coin24][B]Who just "likes" players anyway[/B]? This is a team sport.
Welcome to ISH, dedicated Miami LeBrons supporters:rockon:
If anything, Nash should take it as an insult that he comes across as similar to Pauk:lol[/QUOTE]
:lol So you're saying if I like Kobe, I have to be a Lakers fan?
Ray Allen is going to do what Mike Miller did in game 5 of last years Finals, about 20 times next year. :oldlol: Despite his advanced age and ankle issue, he's still more dependable health wise.
James, Wade, Bosh + the greatest floor spacer of all time in Ray as part of a crunch time lineup? Feelsgoodman.
[QUOTE=ihoopallday]:lol So you're saying if I like Kobe, I have to be a Lakers fan?[/QUOTE]
How can you not like Godbe?:confusedshrug: :oldlol:
Theres a difference between liking a player and enjoying watching them play, and being a blind stan that makes tons of threads about shit...
You guys act like he can't be a fan of both Nash and Lebron :hammerhead:
[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Ray Allen wasn't comfortable as a 6th man.
Glad we replaced him with Terry and Lee.[/QUOTE]
I like how you act as if you're the one that doesn't have to be concerned with us when we bumped your ass out of the playoffs the last two seasons. :oldlol:
Its okay. We're comfortable with where we're at. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=plowking]I like how you act as if you're the one that doesn't have to be concerned with us when we bumped your ass out of the playoffs the last two seasons. :oldlol:
Its okay. We're comfortable with where we're at. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I didn't even see that, is he at it AGAIN? :facepalm
this dude is SHOOK.
[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Ok, I'm have ask the reasonable members of ISH to stop underrating Ray Allen and overrating Battier/Miller/etc...those guys are not and I don't remember a time where they have ever been near Ray Allen's level of shooting....ever.
I honestly think dude will average over 11 ppg with ease. He's going to get the most space he's ever had and it will be up to him, the greatest three point shooter of all time, to hit relatively easy shots. Now I am not saying that he's going to be wide open in the corner camping, but I don't how defenses are going to keep a man on him while keeping Bosh/Bron and Wade in check. That's just too much in my opinion. You have to give up something and Ray shooting with late contests will be a regular thing.
Realistically, he will have slumps, but what's yin without the yang? Dude will also have moments, not just singular games mind you, where he will be unstoppable. A couple of 20+,25+ nights where he will remind of his past days and how great of a shooter he is and was.
Great pickup and if I was Spo, I'm definitely playing lineups with Bosh at center and Bron at PF in the 4th quarter.
I cannot wait to see a lineup like this:
Wade
Allen
Battier
Bron
Bosh
down the stretch. That would be SICK.[/QUOTE]
Asking if anyone has had a season comparable to Allen in terms of 3 point shooting will leave you coming up short, but Miller more so than Battier has had some amazing shooting seasons himself. Mainly going unnoticed due to the team he was doing it on, but that makes it impressive enough as there was no one to take pressure off him either.
Obviously not as good as Allen, but very good none the less.
EDIT: It'd be interesting to see if he can crack 50% from 3pt land. Although with the way they've been playing him, it seems as though hes handling the ball quite a bit in our system... Either way...
[QUOTE=Nash]How about we ask the mods to compare my IP to Pauk's and if we're from the same place I'll leave this place forever and if not you leave? Wanna make that bet?[/QUOTE]
Please. Love it how ISH posters say stuff like that, only cuz they already know mods don't have the ability to check IP's, the admin does. Wanna impress people? Challenge Jeff to do an IP check on you then? But my guess is, you won't:no:
[QUOTE=plowking]Asking if anyone has had a season comparable to Allen in terms of 3 point shooting will leave you coming up short, but Miller more so than Battier has had some amazing shooting seasons himself. Mainly going unnoticed due to the team he was doing it on, but that makes it impressive enough as there was no one to take pressure off him either.
Obviously not as good as Allen, but very good none the less.
EDIT: It'd be interesting to see if he can crack 50% from 3pt land. Although with the way they've been playing him, it seems as though hes handling the ball quite a bit in our system... Either way...[/QUOTE]
I do understand that Miller has had some great shooting seasons while playing for crappy teams which is impressive in it's own right, but he's been so inconsistent for so long that it's hard for me to even picture him healthy and consistently productive in a Heat uniform. Before his back got destroyed, he broke both of his thumbs or some other life altering injury. (seriously, how do you break both of your thumbs?)
With Ray, a legendary player who still has some left in the tank. You guys have a person that can make collapsing or unaware defenses pay more often. I definitely think that he will give them a dimension that they haven't had outside of the end of the Finals when everyone caught fire.
We'll see though.
Jesus Shuttlesworth is gonna have the easiest season of his career. No more running through sets trying to get fed on the perimeter. Its gonna be like gym practice out there with Lebron kicking him open looks all day. I hate The Heat...
[QUOTE=PJR]Ray Allen is going to do what Mike Miller did in game 5 of last years Finals, about 20 times next year. :oldlol: Despite his advanced age and ankle issue, he's still more dependable health wise.
James, Wade, Bosh + the greatest floor spacer of all time in Ray as part of a crunch time lineup? Feelsgoodman.[/QUOTE]
this. even though he's got some health issues, Allen still is more reliable than any other Heat 3point shooter imo. And we all know that Lebron is going to find him on the floor. I think Allen and Battier will contribute the most. Ever since his shots started to fall Battier has been a great addition to this team. Miller is a good rebounder, but besides that I don't see how he's gonna get more than a couple of minutes every now and then. They say his back is better but I'm not really buying it.
Put Lebron as a PG in the 3rdQ, bench Wade for a couple minutes to rest.
Bron, Allen, Mike Miller, Battier, Bosh.
Iso Lebron, and release them triples!!!
Ray is key this year as for Miami to repeat they will need him and others to hit their outside shots at a high clip.
[QUOTE=Jax]
Iso Lebron, and release them triples!!![/QUOTE]
I would do Bron, Allen, Battier, Haslem, Bosh ... but yea, I agree.
Haslem and Bosh can execute high pick and rolls, as well as rebound, Battier and Haslem bring better defense.
But yes, LeBron will have space to drive, and have snipers on the outside for the kick out.
Ray Allen really covers the shooting woes, and holes in D-Wade's game.
Lebron
Allen
Battier
Lewis
Bosh
Lebron + four 3 point shooters. They should try it sometimes.
[QUOTE=Nash]Lebron
Allen
Battier
Lewis
Bosh
Lebron + four 3 point shooters. They should try it sometimes.[/QUOTE]
They tried it for a few years in Cleavland.
Worked pretty well, b2b 60 + win seasons
[QUOTE=Nash]Lebron
Allen
Battier
Lewis
Bosh
Lebron + four 3 point shooters. They should try it sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Chalmers
Wade
Allen
James
Bosh
:bowdown:
In order for Miami to be even better than they were in the last year's finals, Lebron will have to make his shots, not their shooters.
Miller, Battier, and Chalmers hit their 3-point shots at a ridiculous rate anyway, and Ray will only help them maintain that kind of shooting, but I don't think as a unit they can shoot any better than that.
Lebron, on the other hand, will have to shoot better than 20%, which was his FG % outside the paint last year.
[QUOTE=pegasus]
Lebron, on the other hand, will have to shoot better than 20%, which was his FG % outside the paint last year.[/QUOTE]
This sentence you produced has 0% truth to it.
[QUOTE=plowking]I like how you act as if you're the one that doesn't have to be concerned with us when we bumped your ass out of the playoffs the last two seasons. :oldlol:
Its okay. We're comfortable with where we're at. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, I'm not the least bit concerned. So Ray Allen will take minutes away from Battier and Miller and Cole. You're gonna see that at this point there really isn't much difference.
Yes LeBron needs to step up because he really underperformed last year :rolleyes:
Another gem from Pegasus, ISH's GOAT comedian! :bowdown:
[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Believe it or not, I'm not the least bit concerned. So Ray Allen will take minutes away from Battier and Miller and Cole. You're gonna see that at this point there really isn't much difference.[/QUOTE]
Cole is horrible and can't shoot. Miller is erratic and always hurt.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Believe it or not, I'm not the least bit concerned. So Ray Allen will take minutes away from Battier and Miller and Cole. You're gonna see that at this point there really isn't much difference.[/QUOTE]
Considering hes a better player than all three of them, yes, there will be a difference.