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[QUOTE=Nick Young]it's true, smush parker cost Kobe valuble championship years and MVP years.
In other words Kobe was playing all-time great level basketball and should have been contending for trophies but was surrounded by scrubs like Mihm, Brown, Walton and Smush Parker.
If it wasn't for smush parker, Kobe could have had 7 rings by now and 2 more MVPs.[/QUOTE]Stop typing.
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I don't really know what the F Kobe is talking about. He wasn't the runner up, or even second runner up, to Nash for MVP in 2006.
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2006.html[/url]
1. Nash: 924
2. Lebron: 688
3. Dirk: 544
4. Kobe: 483
5. Billups: 430
...he was barely ahead of Chauncey Billups. LOL.
I'm not going to post any more links, but the point is that Kobe's consistently brought up Smush as a reference for his horrendous supporting cast. It's a dick move and one that he should be above.
Damn Kobe hates Smush, i wonder what happened between the two. Smush probably sonned him in practice or something for Kobe to keep bringing him up like that :lol
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Here's one from 2011:
[url]http://gotemcoach.com/post/14220866075/the-realest-kobe-is-the-kobe-that-swears-kobes[/url][/QUOTE]
lol at Kobe arguing with that dipshit reporter.
Kobe: And you know more about basketball than I do?
Reporter: I can argue that. You may know how to play better.
Kobe :rolleyes:
only two people who know what the deal is, are Kobe and Smush, and they probably both see it differently as well.
Kobe obviously has a thing against him. Has to be something personal. He's played with plenty of bad players who he doesn't bring up. We'll never know.
He is very much as garbage as Kobe says he is. It's one thing to suck but it's another not to care and let yourself get into that shape.
He's a supposed a professional athlete?
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[QUOTE=Mach_3]Damn Kobe hates Smush,[B] i wonder what happened between the two[/B]. Smush probably sonned him in practice or something for Kobe to keep bringing him up like that :lol[/QUOTE]
smush started bad mouthing kobe to the media a while ago, so you can put your retarded assumptions to rest.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]He is very much as garbage as Kobe says he is. It's one thing to suck but it's another not to care and let yourself get into that shape.
He's a supposed a professional athlete?
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wow.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]He is very much as garbage as Kobe says he is. It's one thing to suck but it's another not to care and let yourself get into that shape.
He's a supposed a professional athlete?
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/534233/Smush_Parker.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He looks like a WNBA player now, bitchtits and all :lol
But, in fairness, he went from a pro athlete to a depressed semi-pro. That explains the weight gain.
[QUOTE=hipballinjigga]Former LA Lakers point guard Smush Parker is calling out Kobe Bryant for being a diva who treated his teammates like crap -- and it comes just hours after Kobe blamed Parker for costing him a huge trophy 7 years ago.
Parker played with Kobe during the 2005-06 season, and tells TMZ the Lakers great is only lashing out because he once dared to say Kobe was "overrated" as a teammate.
Parker's never explained what he meant by that, but now tells us ... Kobe "told me out his own mouth that I couldn't talk to him. That my accolades under my belt weren't deserving enough for me to talk to him." He also says Kobe didn't talk to most of his teammates.
Parker says he's opening up about Kobe's diss because Kobe told reporters earlier today ... he lost the '05-'06 NBA MVP trophy to Steve Nash because he was surrounded with no-talent players that season.
Kobe said, "I tell Steve, you won MVP, but I was playing with Smush Parker."
Kobe piled on more, saying ... "He shouldn't have been in the NBA but we were too cheap to pay for a point guard. So we let him walk on."
Parker, who's currently hooping overseas, says his stats prove he was far from "the worst" ... as Kobe claims ... and adds, "People lie, numbers don't."
Read more: [url]http://www.tmz.com#ixzz292JiguJ3[/url]
Link: [URL="http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/11/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-smush-parker/"]http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/11/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-smush-parker/[/URL][/QUOTE]
A team should hire Smush Parker and have him beat the crap out of Kobe when they play the Lakers. It would be a good thing.
So...enough about S Parker...what about Kwame Brown and C. Mihm?
You guys have to remember that Smush was a nobody and basically was given a chance by basketball royalty.
He got the chance to play with a legend of this game, Kobe, and he got to play for Riley.
If those two have nothing good to say about him, it just shows you who he truly is as a professional ball player.
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]smush started bad mouthing kobe to the media a while ago, so you can put your retarded assumptions to rest.[/QUOTE]
Aww someone is visibly upset. isn't that cute
why did smush bad mouth him in the first place?
I think it's also nature for superstar to feel the need to talk back more trash about another players who is inferior to him...
This isn't just basketball, but other sports too. I've seen it in soccer, cricket, basketball, hockey, football (god damn, it's crazy how much trash they talk) etc... Kobe's always been an ass, but I don't really blame him for this when Parker started it.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I think it's also nature for superstar to feel the need to talk back more trash about another players who is inferior to him...
This isn't just basketball, but other sports too. I've seen it in soccer, cricket, basketball, hockey, football (god damn, it's crazy how much trash they talk) etc... Kobe's always been an ass, but I don't really blame him for this when Parker started it.[/QUOTE]
Even if you feel that way, lying isn't acceptable. Smush is not the worst player he's ever played with. Kobe's the same dude that played with Slava Mevendenko and Samaki Walker:rolleyes:
C'mon son. He shouldn't have even responded.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I think it's also nature for superstar to feel the need to talk back more trash about another players who is inferior to him...
This isn't just basketball, but other sports too. I've seen it in soccer, cricket, basketball, hockey, football (god damn, it's crazy how much trash they talk) etc[/QUOTE]
Well yea, it's pro sports. Alphas of the alphas, all going at it. For money no less. The teeth will come out. Verbal blows will be thrown. I wouldn't want it any other way, though. That's what makes it entertainment.
I don't know what came first in this, the chicken or the egg. I do know Smush was a capable NBA player in 2006, worse in 2007, and gone from the league by 2008 or 2009.
He was a solid defender, who could hit the open 3 ball. But I also know he made a lot of bone head plays, had a visible bad attitude with the Jay Cutler-esque faces he'd make on the sidelines or with teammates on the court.
Smush started all this back in 2008 or 2009 taking shots at Kobe through a Rucker interview. Was what he said true? Yes, I'm sure Kobe's quite an egotistical dick when it comes to basketball. Specifically with those 2006 and 2007 Laker teams, where the only truly competent teammates were Lamar Odom and Luke Walton, of all people.
Kobe, since that interview has gone extra hard on Smush. Sometimes for no reason at all, he will willingly bring him into the conversation in order to throw him under the bus.
Now, with players like Kobe / MJ ... I don't mind if you do this stuff behind closed doors, but to take it to the media is asinine. Kobe only makes himself look bad. At 33 / 34 years he old, he should be way more mature than this by this point in his life and career.
That man Smush couldn't hack it in the league, he probably feels terrible about it. And he's now rotting in Euroleague somewhere, as a lard ass combo guard.
No need to rub it in Mamba, you're a legend in the business. An all-time great, we don't need you stomping an NBA nobody when he's down. Even if he tried to engage you with verbal back talk.
And seriously, it isn't Smush fault you didn't win MVPs in 2006 and 2007. What's with the insecurity lately from Kobe? It's reaching Shaq like levels. He's still visibly bitter he only has one MVP trophy. Even engaging now teammate Steve Nash to get into verbal combat over it.
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Chillbe
As for Smush, he needs to shut his mouth too. He should just say he wasn't the ideal teammate as it pertains to personality / chemistry issues, but then say it was great to rub elbows with greatness in his career, call it a day and move on from the subject.
As for the statement about Kobe not willing to talk to him? It depends on the context. If he literally means as a teammate, and man to man as human beings he wouldn't engage him given his lack of a quality NBA resume? That's down right cruel.
But I tend to believe it was actually Kobe not willing to take on court basketball advice from Smush, given his overall worth / experience in comparison to Kobe as a player. That sounds more believable.
Either way, it's entertaining. Albeit embarrassing for both parties involved.
Smush Parker is like Meg from family guy.
Shut up meg...
[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Even if you feel that way, lying isn't acceptable. Smush is not the worst player he's ever played with. Kobe's the same dude that played with Slava Mevendenko and Samaki Walker:rolleyes:
C'mon son. He shouldn't have even responded.[/QUOTE]
It's Kobe.
What's the first thing popped out from his mouth when he won a 5th ring ? "I got 1 more than Shaq".
If he's going to keep grudge about a player like Shaq, he's going to keep a grudge about a bum like Parker.
As for the worst player thing, I don't think at times players keep things in context... doubt Kobe would when he's pissed at someone. He forgot about dudes like Kwame Brown, Laron Profit, Brian Cook etc.. I'm sure not on purpose (or he just forget they exist).
[QUOTE=The Mamba]Well yea, it's pro sports. Alphas of the alphas, all going at it. For money no less. The teeth will come out. Verbal blows will be thrown. I wouldn't want it any other way, though. That's what makes it entertainment.
I don't know what came first in this, the chicken or the egg. I do know Smush was a capable NBA player in 2006, worse in 2007, and gone from the league by 2008 or 2009.
He was a solid defender, who could hit the open 3 ball. But I also know he made a lot of bone head plays, had a visible bad attitude with the Jay Cutler-esque faces he'd make on the sidelines or with teammates on the court.
Smush started all this back in 2008 or 2009 taking shots at Kobe through a Rucker interview. Was what he said true? Yes, I'm sure Kobe's quite an egotistical dick when it comes to basketball. Specifically with those 2006 and 2007 Laker teams, where the only truly competent teammates were Lamar Odom and Luke Walton, of all people.
Kobe, since that interview has gone extra hard on Smush. Sometimes for no reason at all, he will willingly bring him into the conversation in order to throw him under the bus.
Now, with players like Kobe / MJ ... I don't mind if you do this stuff behind closed doors, but to take it to the media is asinine. Kobe only makes himself look bad. At 33 / 34 years he old, he should be way more mature than this by this point in his life and career.
That man Smush couldn't hack it in the league, he probably feels terrible about it. And he's now rotting in Euroleague somewhere, as a lard ass combo guard.
No need to rub it in Mamba, you're a legend in the business. An all-time great, we don't need you stomping an NBA nobody when he's down. Even if he tried to engage you with verbal back talk.
And seriously, it isn't Smush fault you didn't win MVPs in 2006 and 2007. What's with the insecurity lately from Kobe? It's reaching Shaq like levels. He's still visibly bitter he only has one MVP trophy. Even engaging now teammate Steve Nash to get into verbal combat over it.
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Chillbe
As for Smush, he needs to shut his mouth too. He should just say he wasn't the ideal teammate as it pertains to personality / chemistry issues, but then say it was great to rub elbows with greatness in his career, call it a day and move on from the subject.
As for the statement about Kobe not willing to talk to him? It depends on the context. If he literally means as a teammate, and man to man as human beings he wouldn't engage him given his lack of a quality NBA resume? That's down right cruel.
But I tend to believe it was actually Kobe not willing to take on court basketball advice from Smush, given his overall worth / experience in comparison to Kobe as a player. That sounds more believable.
Either way, it's entertaining. Albeit embarrassing for both parties involved.[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of what you said, but that's the thing... I don't think Kobe does care about being PC. The man is human and not you, me, or someone on here is him. We don't know how he feels about these things no matter how professional he's been in the past.
I'm not even surprised one bit about these things. Sooner or later, things just come out in the open... My view point is "what took so long ?".
[QUOTE=Heavincent]lol at Kobe arguing with that dipshit reporter.
Kobe: And you know more about basketball than I do?
Reporter: I can argue that. You may know how to play better.
Kobe :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Kobe got pwned.
kobes being real blunt these days but the things he says are true. its not out of his ass.
Yea... Kobe doesn't talk to his teammates. :rolleyes:
What about Ariza? When he came to the Lakers, Ariza was pretty much a scrub. Kobe took him under his wing and taught him how to shoot. Ariza and Kobe had a little bromance thing going on for a while, even after Ariza left LA.
this guys a ****ing scrub who cares. kobe has earned the right to say whatever he wants about whoever whenever, when smush wins 5 rings he can chirp kobe to the media all day
[QUOTE=hipballinjigga]Former LA Lakers point guard Smush Parker is calling out Kobe Bryant for being a diva who treated his teammates like crap -- and it comes just hours after Kobe blamed Parker for costing him a huge trophy 7 years ago.
Parker played with Kobe during the 2005-06 season, and tells TMZ the Lakers great is only lashing out because he once dared to say Kobe was "overrated" as a teammate.
Parker's never explained what he meant by that, but now tells us ... Kobe "told me out his own mouth that I couldn't talk to him. That my accolades under my belt weren't deserving enough for me to talk to him." He also says Kobe didn't talk to most of his teammates.
Parker says he's opening up about Kobe's diss because Kobe told reporters earlier today ... he lost the '05-'06 NBA MVP trophy to Steve Nash because he was surrounded with no-talent players that season.
Kobe said, "I tell Steve, you won MVP, but I was playing with Smush Parker."
Kobe piled on more, saying ... "He shouldn't have been in the NBA but we were too cheap to pay for a point guard. So we let him walk on."
Parker, who's currently hooping overseas, says his stats prove he was far from "the worst" ... as Kobe claims ... and adds, "People lie, numbers don't."
Read more: [url]http://www.tmz.com#ixzz292JiguJ3[/url]
Link: [URL="http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/11/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-smush-parker/"]http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/11/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-smush-parker/[/URL][/QUOTE]
since NBA contracts are guaranteed, I would've decked Kobe if he pulled this crap on me... (if it were true)
[QUOTE=hipballinjigga]I think the whole "hating" on Smush Parker as a basketball player and not being good is kind of tough.
He actually averaged pretty decent numbers while he played on those teams. I understand that numbers do not show the number of bone headed plays he made,[B] but he was a very serviceable NBA player.[/B]
There is a lot of serviceable basketball players that come and go. He is just one of them. However he does not deserve the hate from Kobe Bryant.
Don't blame your own faults as a basketball player on other players. If you are truly as great as you say, you need to back it up with your playing and not your cocky mouth.[/QUOTE]
compare his numbers with LA and without. Kobe made him. He was never serviceable. just utter trash.
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]wow.[/QUOTE]
holy shit he got fat as ****. jesus ****ing christ. omg.
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]It's no secret at all that Kobe's a dickhead. Always has been, always will be.
It's also no secret that Smush wasn't a good player. However, he has every right to air his own dirty laundry. I'd love Smush to just come out at some point and talk about exactly what was going on on that Lakers team.[/QUOTE]
Kobe's not a dickhead at all.
Smush is a complete scrub who has no right saying anyone is overrated, much less Kobe. Kobe is right.....Kwame, Smush.....are you kidding me? The team wasted years of his career with those losers.
[QUOTE]Kobe "told me out his own mouth that I couldn't talk to him. That my accolades under my belt weren't deserving enough for me to talk to him."[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Gawdbe :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
[QUOTE=hipballinjigga]
Parker, who's currently working at Chucky Cheese, says his stats prove he was far from "the worst" ... as Kobe claims ... and adds, "People lie, numbers don't."[/QUOTE]
fixed
Who's this Scrub Parker? :confusedshrug:
Smush Parker? Don't recall the name.
Kobe was a big time diva back then, so Smush isn't inaccurate with what he's saying. Kobe was very difficult to deal with. In regards to Smush's play, playing with Kobe made him look relevant. He got open looks because Kobe was double teamed almost the second he touched the ball, sometimes even triple teamed. His point production more or less doubled. He never averaged more than 6 PPG at any other point and the season after he left the Lakers was his last.
Chris Mihm went through the same thing before he went down. He averaged around 10 PPG with Kobe while averaging 7 and change at best without him. His increased production isn't as noticable, but he too got open looks because of the attention Kobe commanded. Luke Walton was another one. Several players looked relevant because they played alongside Kobe at his offensive peak.
i woudnt want smush talking to me either.
funny even scrub ass kwame is his boy even though kobe rags on him so much
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]It's Kobe.
What's the first thing popped out from his mouth when he won a 5th ring ? "I got 1 more than Shaq".
If he's going to keep grudge about a player like Shaq, he's going to keep a grudge about a bum like Parker.
As for the worst player thing, I don't think at times players keep things in context... doubt Kobe would when he's pissed at someone. He forgot about dudes like Kwame Brown, Laron Profit, Brian Cook etc.. I'm sure not on purpose (or he just forget they exist).
I agree with most of what you said, but that's the thing... I don't think Kobe does care about being PC. The man is human and not you, me, or someone on here is him. We don't know how he feels about these things no matter how professional he's been in the past.
[B]I'm not even surprised one bit about these things. Sooner or later, things just come out in the open... My view point is "what took so long ?".[/B][/QUOTE]
Reality is finally setting in for Kobe that he was never as good as he thought he was, so the bitterness is setting in. Peeps here at ISH keep bringing out the cold hard facts on how he never measured up to the hype (voted behind Billups in MVP voting. Damn....) and Kobe, now looking [I]back[/I] on his career and not really foward as much, simply can't handle it.
He now has a teammate ranked higher than him league wide, and another one with more MVPs than him, one of which Kobe implied should have been won by him, had he had better teammates. N!gga, you wasn't winning them with [I]great[/I] teammates, so why whine about not winning some with Smush?
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this is why i cant respect kobe.
Yet another reason why athletes are getting too much special treatment.
Imagine having a co worker like Kobe in your office, never talking to you because he thinks he is too good to talk to you. Or throwing another co worker under the bus for whatever politics going on between them two.
Seriously, if he wasn't a basketball player, Kobe would be perpetually unemployed with his attitude.
[QUOTE=Nevaeh]Reality is finally setting in for Kobe that he was never as good as he thought he was, so the bitterness is setting in. Peeps here at ISH keep bringing out the cold hard facts on how he never measured up to the hype (voted behind Billups in MVP voting. Damn....) and Kobe, now looking [I]back[/I] on his career and not really foward as much, simply can't handle it.
He now has a teammate ranked higher than him league wide, and another one with more MVPs than him, one of which Kobe implied should have been won by him, had he had better teammates. N!gga, you wasn't winning them with [I]great[/I] teammates, so why whine about not winning some with Smush?
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And if anyone knows about bitterness its this guy. So much butthurt in this thread over Smush frickin Parker. Its obvious there's a beef between him and Kobe cuz Kobe singled him out despite having many terrible teammates those years. Besides Kobe isn't saying anything that every media outlet and fan aside from irrational haters wasn't saying. The man needed more help and was playing with a roster of hot garbage.
So Smush is mad at Kobe for telling the truth? :confusedshrug: Kobe was trying to elevate his teammates to play better, try harder, think and play beyond just being average, and Smush is mad? If Kobe is wrong about Smush, why is Smush playing overseas? Why couldn't he get any time anywhere else in the league?
[QUOTE=JellyBean]So Smush is mad at Kobe for telling the truth? :confusedshrug: Kobe was trying to elevate his teammates to play better, try harder, think and play beyond just being average, and Smush is mad? [B]If Kobe is wrong about Smush, why is Smush playing overseas? Why couldn't he get any time anywhere else in the league?[/B][/QUOTE]
Maybe he just realized overseas players aren't selfish shot jacking jagg-offs who only seek personal glory, at the expense of their teammates?
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Oh snap, I just realized I threw poster Euroleague some love with this post.
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Ah f@ck it, it's almost the weekend right?
:cheers: