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Re: Chris Paul is starting to test my patience
He's always been overrated to me... His games is too reliant on the PnR and teams are defending it better, also the cheap flopping techniques he used to draw fouls on offense have been cracked down on. thats 2 big parts of his games that are being taken away from him...
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Re: Chris Paul is starting to test my patience
Chris Paul is hella overrated.... dude is not a superstar caliber player, I don't care what anyone says. Every time I see him play I'm trying to figure out what people see in him. He doesn't have a killer mentality, doesn't look to score enough even when he has good open shots, he's a poor defender, and I haven't been impressed with him as a playmaker.
I still don't think I've seen him play one game since being on the Clippers and thinking "Wowwwwwww the Clippers were really lucky to get that guy... he's been a HUGE factor" etc. Half of the Clippers games I see I forget Paul is even on the floor...
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[QUOTE=notatop29pg]I hope they trade him just so i can laugh when Bledsoe starts running around putting up 10pts on 4/17, 7 rebs, 2 blocks, 3 steals and 11 turnovers a game. But at least he's aggressive and and gets some cool blocks right?
Im not sure how much a player like CP3 really gives a rats about regular season, so long as they make playoffs its all good. You know your gonna get close to a triple double during the playoffs.
The regular season is for blokes like Blake Griffin to find some game, soon as his brain can make a decision to score or pass in less than 8 seconds they'll be fine.
Yeah we all know CP3 can score whenever he wants, but he's done that before. 2 seasons of 22/12/5/2 (rough) has proven that. Regular season is for the other guys to step up and find their spots and learn how they can step up if/when needed come playoffs. Tim Duncan has pretty much done it the past 5 years (not so much currently). He sleepwalks through the regular season.
You say CP3 is hampering Blakes development... have CP3 take an extra 10 shots per game and then see how Blake develops.
Stop being a spoilt bi*@h. you've got the best pg in the game, he makes others better. Its not his fault Blake thinks the basket is gonna bite him. Go back and watch the game from OKC or tonight and count how many time BG gets an open look in rhythm only to get all confused and brick it or pass out.
Yes i agree CP3 could score more, but he's not gonna carry the team all season. An extra 5 shots per game from CP3 isnt going to help.[/QUOTE]
You clearly haven't been following CP3 this year. Stop being a dickhead.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]You clearly haven't been following CP3 this year. Stop being a dickhead.[/QUOTE]
Ive watched every single game. Just like i watched all of his games as a hornet. He's been this way the last 5 years. Get everyone else involved 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Step up if needed. Of course there are gonna be times when it doesnt work out.
Your teams pretty muched got a revamped 2nd 5 and youre crying how many games into the season?
You moan about players (generally paul) through every single game thread, then disappear when he turns it around in the 4th, which happens far more often than it doesnt.
Just remember where the clippers would be without him. They wouldnt even be in sight of playoffs. You can have Gorden back, Davis and Aminu and you wouldnt win 35 games.
But i think what your really after is someone to have cool stats.
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No way you trade Chris Paul hes just to good and the Clippers are way above 500. they had 2 losses straight but thats gonna happend to everyone, hell if the Clips wanna trade the Kings would gladly give up 3/4 of the roster to get him:bowdown:
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[QUOTE=notatop29pg]Ive watched every single game. Just like i watched all of his games as a hornet. He's been this way the last 5 years. Get everyone else involved 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Step up if needed. Of course there are gonna be times when it doesnt work out.
Your teams pretty muched got a revamped 2nd 5 and youre crying how many games into the season?
You moan about players (generally paul) through every single game thread, then disappear when he turns it around in the 4th, which happens far more often than it doesnt.
Just remember where the clippers would be without him. They wouldnt even be in sight of playoffs. You can have Gorden back, Davis and Aminu and you wouldnt win 35 games.
But i think what your really after is someone to have cool stats.[/QUOTE]
Chris Paul also never had a championship caliber supporting cast. This team is WAY too loaded to make excuses for CP3. CP3 has had 5 good games out of 12 this year and I expected him to potentially have a career year with the weapons around him. He's in terrible shape, he's getting burned on defense by everybody, he's airballing and bricking open shots left and right, he's waiting WAY too long to shoot the ball and having more turnovers than usual.
I don't care if CP3's been this way for 5 years, it's not going to work with this team and the Clippers roster is nothing like the Hornets ones.
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Honestly though I watched the game tonight beginning til end and Chris Paul wasn't your problem at all. The clippers biggest problems were:
-Lopez shitting on Ryan Hollins and deandre in iso sets over and over.
-Joe Johnson shooting the ball well
- much better hustle plays by Gerald Wallace and especially reggie Evans who grabbed a bunch of offensive rebounds in the 4th that allowed us to finally get some separation right before the starters came back in.
Dwill honestly didn't play that great. He wasn't controlling the game that we'll, he was missing crucial wide open threes, and in general he couldn't really break down the clips d that we'll.
Paul was running circles around our defense all game getting mismatches with our big men and making our players scramble to rotate to whoever it is was left wide open in the process. It wasn't til the end when he didn't convert on 2 or 3 critical opportunities that I was a little surprised. But you can't expect cp to dominate and make every play every time. No one else on the team was doing shit. Jamal Crawford is easy to guard when you have two big men who can't shoot. Defend for the shot let him drive and hard help or just soft double. And that's what bk did.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Chris Paul also never had a championship caliber supporting cast. This team is WAY too loaded to make excuses for CP3. CP3 has had 5 good games out of 12 this year and I expected him to potentially have a career year with the weapons around him. He's in terrible shape, he's getting burned on defense by everybody, he's airballing and bricking open shots left and right, he's waiting WAY too long to shoot the ball and having more turnovers than usual.
I don't care if CP3's been this way for 5 years, it's not going to work with this team and the Clippers roster is nothing like the Hornets ones.[/QUOTE]
Theres only one player on the roster that IS playing up to expectations, or above. And thats Crawford.
When youve got one player who is a 9 out of 10 guy and the rest are 5/6/7 out of 10 guys, do you push the 9 to be a 10? Or should you expect the other guys to lift?
When you see how easy he can score when he wants its frustrating to see him play passive, but you KNOW it changes come playoffs. What you dont know, is how DJ, Griff, JC and CB are going to react when CP3 is shut down or out.
Yes you do have a championship calibre team, thats right.. TEAM. Youve got two franchise builders. Why isnt BG scoring 25 when CP3 his having a down night? its not like Paul shoots a lot? Does the most athletic PF of the last 15 years need someone to constantly feed him? Why cant this championship calibre TEAM seem to pull out a win when Paul is playing bad?
Also dont forget Vinny is playing them almost 4 minutes per game less than normal.
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[QUOTE=tpols]Honestly though I watched the game tonight beginning til end and Chris Paul wasn't your problem at all. The clippers biggest problems were:
-Lopez shitting on Ryan Hollins and deandre in iso sets over and over.
-Joe Johnson shooting the ball well
- much better hustle plays by Gerald Wallace and especially reggie Evans who grabbed a bunch of offensive rebounds in the 4th that allowed us to finally get some separation right before the starters came back in.
Dwill honestly didn't play that great. He wasn't controlling the game that we'll, he was missing crucial wide open threes, and in general he couldn't really break down the clips d that we'll.
Paul was running circles around our defense all game getting mismatches with our big men and making our players scramble to rotate to whoever it is was left wide open in the process. It wasn't til the end when he didn't convert on 2 or 3 critical opportunities that I was a little surprised. But you can't expect cp to dominate and make every play every time. No one else on the team was doing shit. Jamal Crawford is easy to guard when you have two big men who can't shoot. Defend for the shot let him drive and hard help or just soft double. And that's what bk did.[/QUOTE]
Well said.
Count the dropped lobs, dribbles of feet, brain explosions by Barnes/Bledsoe, Butler and Green bricking open J's..
In the whole game the only thing i was disappointed with from CP3 was the missed layup towards the end.
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[QUOTE=notatop29pg]Theres only one player on the roster that IS playing up to expectations, or above. And thats Crawford.
When youve got one player who is a 9 out of 10 guy and the rest are 5/6/7 out of 10 guys, do you push the 9 to be a 10? Or should you expect the other guys to lift?
When you see how easy he can score when he wants its frustrating to see him play passive, but you KNOW it changes come playoffs. What you dont know, is how DJ, Griff, JC and CB are going to react when CP3 is shut down or out.
Yes you do have a championship calibre team, thats right.. TEAM. Youve got two franchise builders. Why isnt BG scoring 25 when CP3 his having a down night? its not like Paul shoots a lot? Does the most athletic PF of the last 15 years need someone to constantly feed him? Why cant this championship calibre TEAM seem to pull out a win when Paul is playing bad?
Also dont forget Vinny is playing them almost 4 minutes per game less than normal.[/QUOTE]
Paul is the teams undisputed best clutch player and closer. The burden of finishing games is rightfully on his shoulders. Everybody knows Blake hasn't proven sh** yet as a young player in taking over in the clutch. All 4 Clippers loses had CP3 folding in the clutch in what were tied games with multiple chances to win and CP3 let the team down.
Last year I knew he would make SOMETHING good happen, even if it was a pass, a steal or a game winning shot. This year he just looks broken to me. Griffin has been the 2nd biggest problem on the team but as I said in the OP Griffin is in the beginning of his 3rd season, isn't a top 5 player and a superstar. The expectations I have for the players will obviously be different.
I've criticized Griffin a bunch lately for being passive as shit and looking mentally weak but CP3's play is more important to the team than Griffin's.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]What's unrealistic about expecting a superstar to perform like one? LOL at you still being angry at me about your sensitive racism card and personally attacking me.[/QUOTE]
No, as a baller who has the utmost respect for CP3 and any pro really because I know my max potential was D1 benchwarmer It's insulting to see someone so out of shape and lame when it comes to hoops attack a gem like Paul.
A few games go by and you whine and moan....CP3 is as good as it gets, and you couldn't even last five minutes physically in an NBA game and youre calling him fat and lazy....smh
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[QUOTE=tpols]Honestly though I watched the game tonight beginning til end and Chris Paul wasn't your problem at all. The clippers biggest problems were:
-Lopez shitting on Ryan Hollins and deandre in iso sets over and over.
-Joe Johnson shooting the ball well
- much better hustle plays by Gerald Wallace and especially reggie Evans who grabbed a bunch of offensive rebounds in the 4th that allowed us to finally get some separation right before the starters came back in.
Dwill honestly didn't play that great. He wasn't controlling the game that we'll, he was missing crucial wide open threes, and in general he couldn't really break down the clips d that we'll.
Paul was running circles around our defense all game getting mismatches with our big men and making our players scramble to rotate to whoever it is was left wide open in the process. It wasn't til the end when he didn't convert on 2 or 3 critical opportunities that I was a little surprised. But you can't expect cp to dominate and make every play every time. No one else on the team was doing shit. Jamal Crawford is easy to guard when you have two big men who can't shoot. Defend for the shot let him drive and hard help or just soft double. And that's what bk did.[/QUOTE]
DJ did fine and had 12 and 13 in only 24 minutes. Didn't shoot well, stupid fouls etc but Lopez didn't "shit" on a player that only got to play half the game. Lopez is a great scoring center but didn't do much else so that isn't the main reason the Clippers lost.
Joe Johnson had it easy playing against a 6'3 200 pound SG most of the night and that was definitely a big factor.
Haven't been keeping up with D Will this year and frankly don't care enough about his play to criticize it. This is supposed to be CP3's year to finally get something significant done where he has zero excuses and so far I'm hating what I'm seeing. Last year he looked so incredible, this year he looks so average and easy to stop at times that it worries me.
I just get this bad feeling that he's not going to be able to just suddenly flip it around.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Paul is the teams undisputed best clutch player and closer. The burden of finishing games is rightfully on his shoulders. Everybody knows Blake hasn't proven sh** yet as a young player in taking over in the clutch. All 4 Clippers loses had CP3 folding in the clutch in what were tied games with multiple chances to win and CP3 let the team down.
Last year I knew he would make SOMETHING good happen, even if it was a pass, a steal or a game winning shot. This year he just looks broken to me. Griffin has been the 2nd biggest problem on the team but as I said in the OP Griffin is in the beginning of his 3rd season, isn't a top 5 player and a superstar. The expectations I have for the players will obviously be different.
I've criticized Griffin a bunch lately for being passive as shit and looking mentally weak but [B]CP3's play is more important to the team than Griffin's[/B].[/QUOTE]
Thats where your problem lies, who is easier to close out in a physical hard hitting playoff game? a 6 foot 27yr old who isnt as quick as he used to be? or a hyper athletic 6"10 powerhouse? Its time for Blake to step up and stamp his name on this team. I'd much prefer to be relying on someone who can jump over anyone from 10 feet out in a playoff game, rather than a barely 6" pg who needs every single trick in the book to just get a shot off, let alone make one.
Come playoffs Paul will sit on around 20/10/4/2 as usual, but when lebron/kobe/sefolosha/Kawhi are guarding him on the perimeter and there is a mismatch somewhere... who is gonna step up? Thats what the regular season is there for, to find out.
Blake needs to assert himself and get active, its not all on him, but he sets his pick then watches... doesnt roll or do anything else. He's either shotting 18 footers or backing down for that little hook. The hook is great, but the rest is pretty average, especially considering some of the space he is given, he just needs to stop hesitating. Then the whole floor opens up for everyone.
And for what its worth...
The Hornets team with D.West, Chandler, Peja and Paul would spit this Clippers team out.
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[QUOTE=notatop29pg]Thats where your problem lies, who is easier to close out in a physical hard hitting playoff game? a 6 foot 27yr old who isnt as quick as he used to be? or a hyper athletic 6"10 powerhouse? Its time for Blake to step up and stamp his name on this team. I'd much prefer to be relying on someone who can jump over anyone from 10 feet out in a playoff game, rather than a barely 6" pg who needs every single trick in the book to just get a shot off, let alone make one.
Come playoffs Paul will sit on around 20/10/4/2 as usual, but when lebron/kobe/sefolosha/Kawhi are guarding him on the perimeter and there is a mismatch somewhere... who is gonna step up? Thats what the regular season is there for, to find out.
Blake needs to assert himself and get active, its not all on him, but he sets his pick then watches... doesnt roll or do anything else. He's either shotting 18 footers or backing down for that little hook. The hook is great, but the rest is pretty average, especially considering some of the space he is given, he just needs to stop hesitating. Then the whole floor opens up for everyone.
And for what its worth...
The Hornets team with D.West, Chandler, Peja and Paul would spit this Clippers team out.[/QUOTE]
Lol this Clippers squad would beat those Hornets in 5 if you take CP3 off both teams, stop it. Remember CP3 was at his peak at that time.... his supporting cast now is much better. Hornets supporting pieces were respectable, these ones are very good.
Blake isn't doing all he can either. I think both deserve a majority of the blame for the losses this year. As I said though naturally the better player, the highest paid player and the proven SUPERSTAR is going to take more blame than the 3rd year all star PF.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]DJ did fine and had 12 and 13 in only 24 minutes. Didn't shoot well, stupid fouls etc but Lopez didn't "shit" on a player that only got to play half the game. Lopez is a great scoring center but didn't do much else so that isn't the main reason the Clippers lost.
Joe Johnson had it easy playing against a 6'3 200 pound SG most of the night and that was definitely a big factor.
Haven't been keeping up with D Will this year and frankly don't care enough about his play to criticize it. This is supposed to be CP3's year to finally get something significant done where he has zero excuses and so far I'm hating what I'm seeing. Last year he looked so incredible, this year he looks so average and easy to stop at times that it worries me.
I just get this bad feeling that he's not going to be able to just suddenly flip it around.[/QUOTE]
Yes lopez did shit on dj and Hollins. On top of his game leading 26 points he had two back to back plays with under 3 minutes against dj where he slid past him and got two layups. Dj played a good game but he couldn't really guard lopez that we'll. And Hollins couldn't guard him at all.
And Joe Johnson has a size advantage on every two guard in the league. He's the biggest shooting guard by a lot and has that advantage in nearly every game he plays. Despite that he's been in a shooting funk but he really got up for this one.
And cp3 wasn't average at all this game. He was creating mismatches at will and hitting his big men in great spots.. Not his fault Blake is gonna dribble the ball off his foot in a tight game down the stretch.. Or one of his centers is going to mishandled pages in the paint and cough the ball up.. Or none of his perimeter players could make a long range shot when he needed them to besides Crawford.
Like I said there were a two or three plays where he missed a critical shot and made a shitty pass. That one bunny from ten feet away where our guard got trapped under a screen.. A layup.. That offensive foul that dwill sold 100 percent.. He didn't convert on a few crucial possessions but that won't be the case evry game. What will be the case however is that he will continue to break down defenses and give his team a ton of high quality looks. So you have to settle down sometimes when he makes a mistake or two in a regular season game
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Which Tpols is why it's a bad idea for you to form an opinion of CP3 based on this game when my thread is about 7 out of 12 games this year where he's been mediocre. I wouldn't make such a lengthy rant about one bad game man :lol . Even so I disagree that CP3 played well, at least nowhere near CP3 standards. All the mistake plays you're mentioning were so so costly. Don't forget his attempt to scoop a pass to DJ in the paint in what could have made it a 1 or 3 point game and he passed it right to a Nets player instead.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Lol this Clippers squad would beat those Hornets in 5 if you take CP3 off both teams, stop it. Remember CP3 was at his peak at that time.... his supporting cast now is much better. Hornets supporting pieces were respectable, these ones are very good.
Blake isn't doing all he can either. I think both deserve a majority of the blame for the losses this year. As I said though naturally the better player, the highest paid player and the proven SUPERSTAR is going to take more blame than the 3rd year all star PF.[/QUOTE]
On paper Clippers win.
But the Hornets were a team where every player had an IQ that was higher than this current (healthy) Clippers squad combined.
D-West would sit 20 feet out and bury everything, leaving about 15 feet of empty space behind him for Chandler to catch lobs, Peja wouldnt miss open J's like Caron and Willie, and CP3 would have a paddock of free space to do what he wanted. Bench would bring the clippers back in it, but hack'a'Blake/DJ would seal the win.
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[QUOTE=notatop29pg]On paper Clippers win.
But the Hornets were a team where every player had an IQ that was higher than this current (healthy) Clippers squad combined.
D-West would sit 20 feet out and bury everything, leaving about 15 feet of empty space behind him for Chandler to catch lobs, Peja wouldnt miss open J's like Caron and Willie, and CP3 would have a paddock of free space to do what he wanted. Bench would bring the clippers back in it, but hack'a'Blake/DJ would seal the win.[/QUOTE]
I agree Hornets were more cohesive and intelligent as a team. Either way I agree it's not all on CP3. In other threads I've ripped Griffin, Vinny and other players. This is just more thread worthy because CP3 is so polarizing on ISH and I know a lot will chime in.
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Re: Chris Paul is starting to test my patience
Cut him some slack, he'll be fine comes the playoffs.
And of all people, Jamal Crawford being the best player on this team:lol
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[QUOTE=SyRyanYang]Cut him some slack, he'll be fine comes the playoffs.
And of all people, Jamal Crawford being the best player on this team:lol[/QUOTE]
This is what pisses me off the most. How is a dude most people thought was done... gonna come on a team and be the best player right off the bat? Let alone a team with two all star starters :facepalm . CP3 and Blake need to wake the fu** up fast before they are at a .500 record. CP3 constantly deferring to Crawford in the 4th quarter makes me wanna puke. Sure he's very clutch and capable but CP3 is THAT DUDE or is supposed to be.
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Wow. Yet another retarded thread. The Clippers had 2 straight losses inwhich Chris Paul had 2 bad games in. Big effin deal. Let's move back to reality.
- Chris Paul is a human being. Not a SuperGod.
- There is a reason why the season doesn't end in 12 games. Basketball is a very high paced sport and everyone is gonna look retarded. I'm sure MJ him self; the GOAT had horrible games too.
<fallen over drunk>
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Cp played ok today certainly better then dwill and no clipper really stepd up, no need to stress bout the clipps they had a lot of tough games to start the season but their schedule for the rest of nov and dec is way easier theyll be fine
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he's distraught that hostess has gone under, and now his fat ass can't enjoy eating his favorite snacks.
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Who's that hot bitch that he had a photo shoot with?
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[QUOTE=clipps]Wow. Yet another retarded thread. The Clippers had 2 straight losses inwhich Chris Paul had 2 bad games in. Big effin deal. Let's move back to reality.
- Chris Paul is a human being. Not a SuperGod.
- There is a reason why the season doesn't end in 12 games. Basketball is a very high paced sport and everyone is gonna look retarded. I'm sure MJ him self; the GOAT had horrible games too.
<fallen over drunk>[/QUOTE]
:bowdown:
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How cool were the "overrated" chants that blake received last night from the entire crowd? those chants would have never happened in nj.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]I'd do it for sure. Because I know that when Griffin gets all passive... Westbrook will have no problem being THE guy and jacking up 30 shots. He may not take them but at least he won't back down from it.
Westbrook and Rondo are two PG's I'd take right now for CP3 straight up. I think both might be a better fit for the team for different reasons. Westbrook because he would be fearless go to player who has clutch game as well and stay aggressive every time down the floor. Rondo because he would make Blake explode as the 1st option and get the 3 point shooters better looks.[/QUOTE]
I'll call you up on this when Paul leads the Clips to the WCF in around 6 months time (As long as he's healthy). Stop overreacting.
Btw, Westbrook would be a horrible, horrible, horrible 'point guard' to have on ur team. You need a playmaker with all those weapons, not a dumb as shit shot jacking egomaniac.
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[QUOTE=quartwarier]Who's that hot bitch that he had a photo shoot with?[/QUOTE]
Bar Refaeli.
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Contact your sources in the front office and demand a trade. Go as far as threatening to stop posting about them on InsideHoops if he isn't dealt.
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[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]How cool were the "overrated" chants that blake received last night from the entire crowd? those chants would have never happened in nj.[/QUOTE]
They were awesome because Blake bricked both freethrows after them.:oldlol: They very clearly got in his head. dudes soft.
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[QUOTE=tpols]They were awesome because Blake bricked both freethrows after them.:oldlol: They very clearly got in his head. dudes soft.[/QUOTE]
Almost as soft as your center who can't average more than 6 rebounds a game as a 7 footer. Griffin may be mentally fragile at times and seems to let people get inside his head way too easy but that's not the same thing as "soft".
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Almost as soft as your center who can't average more than 6 rebounds a game as a 7 footer. Griffin may be mentally fragile at times and seems to let people get inside his head way too easy but that's not the same thing as "soft".[/QUOTE]
Lopez is physically slow/soft. He isnt as aggressive or coordinated at throwing around his weight as Blake, but hes a much more cerebral and mentally composed player. Blake likes to play the tough guy role but hell never open his mouth and actually say or do anything.. just whine and b[I]i[/I]tch and stare at the refs. And then when people bark and fight back he folds like a chair.
Blake's talent>> but hes too stupid to utilize it like he should. I wouldnt even care about his mental fragility if he didnt try to display the complete opposite in a totally fake manner.
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[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]How cool were the "overrated" chants that blake received last night from the entire crowd? those chants would have never happened in nj.[/QUOTE]
lol ... best crowd
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Okay so.... you guys know I've defended him to a fault. Even prior to him being on the Clippers I loved his game and defended him from people underrating him. That being said what we've seen from him this season is completely unacceptable.
Chris Paul should be BETTER this year with more weapons around him and an offseason with the team. Yet he is worse in every way, literally. Blake has his own problems but in Blake's defense he's barely starting his third season and hasn't had good coaching or big men mentors.
I know Blake is still inexperienced and raw. Chris on the other hand doesn't have that excuse. In his 7th season now, extremely cerebral and intelligent player yet continues to make poor decisions. Somehow came into the season out of shape despite being in impeccable shape just a month or two earlier.
I never thought I'd mention low IQ in a sentence with CP3 but the last few games he's made multiple low IQ plays that had me yelling at the TV "WTF are you doing!?".
Every player is allowed to have bad games but to have relatively low impact in 12 games now? I feel like Bledsoe has a larger positive impact on the team 75 percent of this season so far. Superstars and top 5 players shouldn't be pulling this kind of crap.
Lazy defense, more turnovers than usual, poor shooting compared to last year, looks slow as sh** on offense and can't hit shots. I feel like his idea of creating shots this year is bowling into players and getting called for a charge.[/QUOTE]
Blake Griffin is an unskilled super athlete who will never be an elite big man. That's just the simple and plain truth.
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[QUOTE=tpols]Lopez is physically slow/soft. He isnt as aggressive or coordinated at throwing around his weight as Blake, but hes a much more cerebral and mentally composed player. Blake likes to play the tough guy role but hell never open his mouth and actually say or do anything.. just whine and b[I]i[/I]tch and stare at the refs. And then when people bark and fight back he folds like a chair.
Blake's talent>> but hes too stupid to utilize it like he should. I wouldnt even care about his mental fragility if he didnt try to display the complete opposite in a totally fake manner.[/QUOTE]
This is so misinformed. Blake doesn't play the tough guy role at all. Staring at a player after a poster dunk is common in this league. The only times he's gotten into anything is when he gets cheapshotted so not sure how you can be a fake tough guy when all you're doing is losing your cool. He's not trying to bully or instigate anybody and never has.
The only thing he can realistically do when people fu** with him is punch somebody but he doesn't seem to have that mentality. I know if I was him I would do it.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]This is so misinformed. Blake doesn't play the tough guy role at all. Staring at a player after a poster dunk is common in this league. The only times he's gotten into anything is when he gets cheapshotted so not sure how you can be a fake tough guy when all you're doing is losing your cool. He's not trying to bully or instigate anybody and never has.
The only thing he can realistically do when people fu** with him is punch somebody but he doesn't seem to have that mentality. I know if I was him I would do it.[/QUOTE]
idk.. blake looks like he has that younger brother syndrome look on his face at all times.. staring blankly and hardly at all times always trying to prove everyone wrong. He needs to mellow out and compose himself.
And Im not saying to stop being aggressive. I'm saying when he dunks on somebody, instead of staring at them and giving a indirect, passive aggressive taunt actually SAY something. If you're going to have the balls to punk or embarass someone after you dunk on them you have to go Shawn Kemp all in and actually do it. Point at them yell at them go gary payton on them. Stop tippy toeing around what you're trying to do and people will respect you more.
And if he doesnt want to do that then just run back to the other side of the court and celebrate with your teammates without giving any notice to the guy you just dunked on.
There's a reason players have problems with the guy. They know he wont ever follow through on his displayed attitude.
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Re: Chris Paul is starting to test my patience
[QUOTE=tpols]idk.. blake looks like he has that younger brother syndrome look on his face at all times.. staring blankly and hardly at all times always trying to prove everyone wrong. He needs to mellow out and compose himself.
And Im not saying to stop being aggressive. I'm saying when he dunks on somebody, instead of staring at them and giving a indirect, passive aggressive taunt actually SAY something. If you're going to have the balls to punk or embarass someone after you dunk on them you have to go Shawn Kemp all in and actually do it. Point at them yell at them go gary payton on them. Stop tippy toeing around what you're trying to do and people will respect you more.
And if he doesnt want to do that then just run back to the other side of the court and celebrate with your teammates without giving any notice to the guy you just dunked on.
There's a reason players have problems with the guy. They know he wont ever follow through on his displayed attitude.[/QUOTE]
People have problems with him because he's dunking on them left and right and gives staredowns. They also don't like how physical he is in the paint. It has nothing to do with him randomly being a dick or bully because he's not. Besides the "antics" we are talking about haven't been seen from Blake since the end of season last year. Starting with the playoffs last year the staredowns, flops and trash talk are almost completely gone from his game.
Which quite frankly I hate. I feel like he's conformed to what people want him to be rather than playing the game his way. Trying to go the Amare route of becoming a jumpshooting big who plays passive often times is NOT what Blake should be doing. He needs to tell everybody to fu** off and man up. You can tell the criticism has gotten to him because dude doesn't even attempt dunks anymore. It's disappointing as sh**.
This isn't the 90's anymore. If Blake pulls the Liston move he gets techs. You're expecting him to play like 90's Kemp when a lot of the grit is outlawed now.
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Re: Chris Paul is starting to test my patience
2-8 shooting tonight with only 11 points going into the 4th :facepalm . When will this bullsh** fu**ing end?