Get so annoyed when people thank military people for their service

[QUOTE=bmulls]Keeping the US' pimp hand strong in the middle east.

Nobody wants to say it out loud, but military and economic power are the only true powers in the human world. People get so caught up in whether something is "right" or "wrong" that they fail to realize that morality is subjective.

Liberals will whine that we are only in the middle east to protect the flow of oil. I say yeah, so the fck what? We don't do things because they are right or wrong, we do things to protect and grow our power.

The world is not a nice place, and you need to constantly stay one step ahead of everyone else. Your allies today will be your enemies the moment you let your guard down and become vulnerable. The people at the top of our government have always understood this. The CIA has always understood this.[/QUOTE]
You agree that US are pests. Fine. All I wanted

[QUOTE=kNIOKAS]You agree that US are pests. Fine. All I wanted[/QUOTE]

So what? Iran is a pest to us. Everyone is a pest to someone else.

[QUOTE=Meticode]
The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck yourself...honestly.[/QUOTE]
this is a complete farce. While there is some truth in the protection of our freedoms with military force, the last actual war where that was the case was either WWII or the Civil War. Such a bunch of bullshit.

[QUOTE=Math2]Anyone who really disrespects soldiers should just be sent to die in Afghanistan. They are the ones who risk their lives for you, and you show them no respect. ****ing assholes.[/QUOTE]

Afghanistan and Iraq are no threat to my freedom. hth

Wow, some of the views in this thread about our military service members are shocking and disgusting, if we were ever invaded you all would be on their nuts. and a lot of them do drop bigger and better things to defend us (and are college educated). Our military is the reason that you all have the luxury to be ungrateful pricks in the first place (never any immediate danger, etc.)

[QUOTE=kNicKz]Wow, some of the views in this thread about our military service members are shocking and disgusting, [B]if we were ever invaded you all would be on their nuts. and a lot of them do drop bigger and better things to defend us (and are college educated). [/B]Our military is the reason that you all have the luxury to be ungrateful pricks in the first place (never any immediate danger, etc.)[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:

I understand your view point, but get the **** outta here....the military has historically been filled with the poor and uneducated.

research/intel/security/cyber warfare systems take up a lot more of our military then you think. It's the 21st century not WWI

[QUOTE=kNicKz]research/intel/security/cyber warfare systems take up a lot more of our military then you think. It's the 21st century not WWI[/QUOTE]
So you think the majority of the military is well educated and could be making more elsewhere?

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]So you think the majority of the military is well educated and could be making more elsewhere?[/QUOTE]

hey premed, why did you get banned bro?

[QUOTE=Meticode]I thank our military veterans all the time and I also thank police officers I chat with sometimes for their service.

Do military vets sign up for it because they have no better option? Absolutely, but it doesn't change the fact that they are called onto duty to help protect this country you live in.

The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck yourself...honestly.[/QUOTE]


they don't get paid much because they get amazing benefits. free family healthcare, free housing, free meals, discounted everything else that everyone pays full price for, and great retirement benefits once they've served their time. and once they work their way up in rank they can make quite a bit of money, and then going into the private sector after that if they made it to a high rank can net them some really good money these days.

i agree with the OP that it is annoying because they're doing what their job has entailed all along, and when its time to put up people act like they're going above and beyond their job when in fact thats the main reason why they're being trained for so long to fulfill that duty. that said i don't agree at all with him about blaming them for killing innocents by accident which is retarded since thats a part of war that every soldieer around the world has to do, and its not intentional. its more retard to think soldiers are intentionally trying to kill innocent people, and its just so naive for people to really think that way but the way so many of the weak country sympathizers think fall along those distorted lines because it fits their agenda.

the funny thing is i see some random people say stuff like that to military people every so often and i think those military are more annoyed and embarrassed with it than me. i'd imagine its like someone constantly creating some serious atmosphere they have to acknowledge out of the blue when they're out and about doing random things constantly, and pretend they're so thankful even tho they've heard it a billion times already.

[QUOTE=boozehound]this is a complete farce. While there is some truth in the protection of our freedoms with military force, the last actual war where that was the case was either WWII or the Civil War. Such a bunch of bullshit.[/QUOTE]
maybe that is what he was reffering to....WWII

it isn't like another WW is out fof the question...

we have what we have today because people FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IT...that is truth

[QUOTE=kNicKz]research/intel/security/cyber warfare systems take up a lot more of our military then you think. It's the 21st century not WWI[/QUOTE]
your alot statement is way off.

Also, when was the last time we were invaded? the war of 1812? The examples you and meticode put forth are not based in the reality of the modern world. Sure, military force is a necessary component of the economic empire controlled by US-led corporate entities. But it hardly plays a role in the daily freedoms you and I enjoy. We could reduce our military expenditure by half and most US citizens wouldnt be able to see an impact.

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]maybe that is what he was reffering to....WWII

it isn't like another WW is out fof the question...

we have what we have today because people FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IT...that is truth[/QUOTE]
in 1776. A WW is completely out of the question. There will never be a massive ground combat based war of that nature again.

[QUOTE=boozehound]your alot statement is way off.

Also, when was the last time we were invaded? the war of 1812? The examples you and meticode put forth are not based in the reality of the modern world. Sure, military force is a necessary component of the economic empire controlled by US-led corporate entities. But it hardly plays a role in the daily freedoms you and I enjoy. We could reduce our military expenditure by half and most US citizens wouldnt be able to see an impact.[/QUOTE]
Pearl Harbor

[QUOTE=boozehound]in 1776. A WW is completely out of the question. There will never be a massive ground combat based war of that nature again.[/QUOTE]
we just got done with a massive ground war that is still going :confusedshrug:

of course, we gave Iraq the freedom and not ourselves...still makes for a better world in the long run

Thats not an invasion. If thats an invasion, then so is 9.11


To be clear, I am thankful for the service provided by our soldiers (even while I recognize that the massively bloated DOD budget is basically a profiteering system for private companies). I thank individual service members all the time.

But the over the top hyperbole promulgated by Meticode and others in this thread is unwarranted jingoism thats not based in reality.

[QUOTE=boozehound]Thats not an invasion. If thats an invasion, then so is 9.11


To be clear, I am thankful for the service provided by our soldiers (even while I recognize that the massively bloated DOD budget is basically a profiteering system for private companies). I thank individual service members all the time.

But the over the top hyperbole promulgated by Meticode and others in this thread is unwarranted jingoism thats not based in reality.[/QUOTE]
if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom[/QUOTE]
I think we can all agree on that.

[QUOTE=boozehound] military force is a necessary component of the economic empire controlled by US-led corporate entities. [/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/1164.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom[/QUOTE]

you can't keep citing history and where we're at now with our freedoms like its some guilt triip to what everyone does for a living today. its a completely different world. if we were a still developing country everyone would be trained in combat. our job emphasis would be to fight and defend the country because obviously there would be a lot more threats to us than today. i'm not saying people shouldn't be somewhat thankful but the constant guilt trip of being so thankful is extremely flawed in the sense that most that have made the country to what it is today are dead, and soldiers these days have had nothing to do with it. our nukes, military might mostly thru technology keep us more safe and give us our freedoms today than actual troops. thank the techies more than any individual troop enlisted right now if you value your freedom from outside threats of today.

and like i said if it were WW1/2 we'd all very likely be leading very different lives more contributory to fighting for our freedoms/rights. we'd be those people who fought and died. its just a flawed way of praising them and guilt tripping the rest imo. maybe thank the taxpayers for supporting their lives and families while they train and fight too?

It's part of the marketing scheme for the military, you know, that they're fighting for your freedom and all that blablabla nonsense.

[QUOTE=Math2]So what? Iran is a pest to us. Everyone is a pest to someone else.[/QUOTE]
Iran? What exactly does it do, have the oil you are ready to kill people for?

Iraq? They were supposed to have weapons of mass destruction. Invade another country > kill people > rob their wealth >oops, no weapons of mass destructions, but... but we were fighting for our freedom! >
Pass.


:coleman:

[QUOTE=ZenMaster]It's part of the marketing scheme for the military, you know, that they're fighting for your freedom and all that blablabla nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Yeah its a marketing scheme lol...like their selling cars

I guess I missed that commercial

[QUOTE=kNicKz][IMG]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/1164.jpg[/IMG]

:roll:[/QUOTE]
Nice comeback. try learning your history. You could start with statement by former secretary of states on the role of the US military in protecting US corporate holdings in other countries or the creation of banana republics or any number of topics. The US international military presence, particularly prior to the cold war, was primarily used to protect the economic interests of US corporations abroad.

It's of my opinion that two times you've been saved, some of us three..

1. Christ
2. MLK Jr
3. Men/women who die for this country

Not to have them on the same platform, but..you get it

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom[/QUOTE]
Is that even a real point? If I had a home with no locks I would be afraid of losing my possessions and my life as well...that's obvious though.Every country has a military to protect themselves:oldlol:

There is a difference between a normal military and what the united states has.

A huge one.

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]
There is a difference between a normal [B]economy[/B] and what the united states has.

A huge one.[/QUOTE]

Fixed that for you. Think it's just a coincidence?

I wouldn't say it annoys me, it's just really unnecessary.

Bleed past your tampon much, OP?

[QUOTE=bagelred]I get annoyed with it too, because I want the military personnel to stand up to the establishment and arrest them for starting fake wars, killing millions of people, and stealing trillions of dollars....instead of carrying out the orders to "protect us" from phantom enemies.

When they do that, I'll thank them.....[/QUOTE]


:facepalm

So what if they signed up for it? What's so bad about just saying thank you to someone that has made your life better, keeps you safe, etc? Would you not thank your doctor if they performed life saving surgery on you? Even your garbage man, try saying thank you once in awhile it might make you and others happier.

Seriously, is this what's it's come to? Complaining about people appreciating other people's work?

Wait garbage man makes $80k a year? Wtf sign me up

Ironically op has said before he was from pakistan

Sorta off topic, but on topic, there's military people who do it out of pride and because it is what they like doing, others just do it because they can't find a better and quicker way to provide a decent monetary income their family and that's why they sign up.

Reiterating what a bunch of people have already said; there are other people who deserve our thanks, but people in the military risk their lives to protect us. The fact that you get annoyed by this makes you a douchebag.

[QUOTE=BrickingStar]Ironically op has said before he was from pakistan[/QUOTE]
Palestine

NO. You WANNA KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF?

Divorce lawyers getting paid more than farmers and teachers.

[QUOTE=Edwin]Sorta off topic, but on topic, there's military people who do it out of pride and because it is what they like doing, others just do it because they can't find a better and quicker way to provide a decent monetary income their family and that's why they sign up.[/QUOTE]


- There are doctors who don't give a **** about health or helping the sick...they just want to get paid. There are priests who don't give a **** about humanity...just want to **** **** in the ***. There are police who don't care about public safety they just want to get paid...

at least in the Military you can join for whatever reason you want....you still gonna have to chew the same dirt.

[QUOTE=Umad101]Guess what? They signed up for it...most likely because they didn't have many better options. I don't go around thanking police officers in Chicago, which is probably more dangerous, and I don't thank my garbage man. They do these things out of self-interest and it just happens to benefit society.[/QUOTE]


So if a doctor saves your life you wouldn't thank him because its his job? Let me guess you also don't tip anyone because its their job?

I was brought up in a different culture with a different mentality. I was shocked when I first heard/saw how disrespected the American military personnel were over here in their own country. My thought process was, it doesn't matter whether you agree with the war or not or whether what they're actually doing out there is what they should be doing or not, the fact is that they are going out there with the purpose of protecting your asses. At the very least you need to show them respect for that.

Over the years though, I hear stories of soldiers raping women, killing children, creating mass graves of civilians, and I feel differently. Having researched how the military acts when hailed as infallible and having seen my nation's army act the way they did after all the respect they got over the decades, my perspective has been changed. I had an ex-marine acquaintance who was super racist towards Arabs and eventually ended up in Iraq. How did his racist views affect his day-to-day? I mean I still respect the folks who sign up for the military for the same reasons, but it is important to realize that they're humans like us and we can't turn a blind eye to their actions.

To summarize my ramblings, do I randomly thank soldiers I meet or anyone I know on FB? No, because I don't know if I'm thanking a true soldier or a dip****. Do I show them respect for taking a difficult job that could get them killed? Absolutely.