The Lakers Are Looking For A Free Agent PG - They Should Sign Theo Papaloukas

[QUOTE=Euroleague]I liked him to. [B]However, he was never "a top player in Europe"[/B]. Get a freaking clue and stop being a dumb ass.

In European basket, Papaloukas is Magic Johnson, and El-Amin is poor man's Derek Fisher.

You sound like a total imbecile to even compare the two.[/QUOTE]



"El-Amin signed with Strasbourg (France) in January 2002. He then joined Maccabi Ironi Ramat Gan (Israel) in November 2002.

He joined Besiktas Istanbul of the Turkish league in August 2003. Dominating the league for two seasons, El-Amin was second in scoring (20.9) and third in assists (5.2) in his first season. In 2005, he led the league in assists and averaged 20.4 points a game. He was named MVP of the Turkish League All-Star Game in 2005 and was a member of the World Team at the 2005 FIBA Europe All-Star Game."

:kobe:

[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]GUYS! I have the perfect solution to the Lakers problem.

You know how everyone is in panic right? Waiting for Steve Nash? They need a point guard who for sure can come in NOW or else everything goes nuclear right? Lets get a player who we have no idea if he'll be able to play in the NBA! Lets ignore the veterans we know what we will get from! We HAVE to get an over seas player even though the track record for them coming over successfully like this is not very good. Brilliant![/QUOTE]

Not a chance in hell that you have ever seen Papaloukas play. None of the other point guards available are even remotely in his class. This isn't "some guy from overseas". This is one of the greatest European players of all time. The lack of basic basketball knowledge in this site is truly disturbing.

I'm a big Lakers fan, but no doubt that the Lakers have the dumbest and least knowledgeable about the game fan base of any NBA team.

[QUOTE=kNicKz]"El-Amin signed with Strasbourg (France) in January 2002. He then joined Maccabi Ironi Ramat Gan (Israel) in November 2002.

He joined Besiktas Istanbul of the Turkish league in August 2003. Dominating the league for two seasons, El-Amin was second in scoring (20.9) and third in assists (5.2) in his first season. In 2005, he led the league in assists and averaged 20.4 points a game. He was named MVP of the Turkish League All-Star Game in 2005 and was a member of the World Team at the 2005 FIBA Europe All-Star Game."

:kobe:[/QUOTE]

You really are a colossal idiot. You are too ****ing stupid to even describe. IGNORE LIST. I'm not wasting time arguing with a retard like you.

so being 2nd in scoring and leading the league in assists doesn't constitute someone as a "top player" in a league? What does? I'm slightly curious

[QUOTE=kNicKz]so being 2nd in scoring and leading the league in assists doesn't constitute someone as a "top player" in a league? What does? I'm slightly curious[/QUOTE]

What the **** is wrong with you? Nothing you cited would make him a "top player in Europe", nor anything even in the remote discussion for that. It's a joke how pathetic the basketball knowledge is at ISH.

They should sign Spanoulis-then it is game over NBA:bowdown:

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[quote=AirTupac]Career 5 ppg on 30% in the Euroleague (Euroleague.net). [U][B]Meaning that he would probably average decimal points in ppg in the NBA.[/B][/U][/quote]

:roll:

Here is a YouTube of Papaloukas.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtTCCd3lBMU[/url]
[B]

Complete owning of Team USA and Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Paul, Howard, and Melo starts at the 2:10 mark.[/B]

Yeah, clearly "just some guy from overseas that is a scrub in Euroleague, that could not be on the same floor with Kobe, that has no skills, and that is no better than Khalid El-Amin", who spent most of his career as a journeyman in lower level teams and leagues in Europe...........

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=Nick Young]They should sign Spanoulis-then it is game over NBA:bowdown:[/QUOTE]

Spanoulis isn't a free agent you ****ing moron.

[quote=Euroleague][B]Papaloukas is considered to be one of the greatest European ballers that ever lived.[/B][/quote]

V-Span is also one of the greatest European ballers that ever lived. Look what happened to him in the NBA.

Euro =/= NBA

One is more talented than the other...

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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Spanoulis isn't a free agent you ****ing moron.[/QUOTE]
What is he paid, $300,000, $500,000 a year?

Lakers can buy out his contract and sign him for the veterans minimum, which is probably double to his euroleague contract anyway.

GET IT DONE MITCH

I'm sure Theo's deeply in thought quote would make major difference for the Lakers

"life is like basketball sometime there shot miss and sometime there shot make sometime there dribble and fall to the ground of to the court but if you alway have a patient then you will alway make more then you miss"

[QUOTE=swi7ch]V-Span is also one of the greatest European ballers that ever lived. Look what happened to him in the NBA.

Euro =/= NBA

One is more talented than the other...[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's much higher level of competition at the PG spot in Euroleague. That's why all the guys that sucked in Euroleague:

Gary Neal
Ricky Rubio
Goran Dragic
Ty Lawson
Brandon Jennings

Suddenly become good players playing against the awful NBA point guards. It's why Pablo Prigioni plays for the Knicks, despite being washed up 3 years ago at Euroleague level.

[B]It's because the NBA has much worse point guards than the Euroleague does. So yeah, you are right, the NBA point guard position is definitely much lower in level than the Euroleague point guard position.[/B]

[QUOTE=Nick Young]What is he paid, $300,000, $500,000 a year?

Lakers can buy out his contract and sign him for the veterans minimum, which is probably double to his euroleague contract anyway.

GET IT DONE MITCH[/QUOTE]

Spanoulis makes over $7 million a year currently. His asking price for the NBA is 3 years $25 million. His current contract has no buyout option.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Yes, it's much higher level of competition at the PG spot in Euroleague. That's why all the guys that sucked in Euroleague:

Gary Neal
Ricky Rubio
Goran Dragic
Ty Lawson
Brandon Jennings

Suddenly become good players playing against the awful NBA point guards. It's why Pablo Prigioni plays for the Knicks, despite being washed up 3 years ago at Euroleague level.

[B]It's because the NBA has much worse point guards than the Euroleague does. So yeah, you are right, the NBA point guard position is definitely much lower in level than the Euroleague point guard position.[/B][/QUOTE]
Tyus Edney, Euroleague champion:bowdown:

Trajan Langdon, Euroleague final 4 MVP:bowdown:

[QUOTE=Euroleague]

[B]It's because the NBA has much worse point guards than the Euroleague does. So yeah, you are right, the NBA point guard position is definitely much lower in level than the Euroleague point guard position.[/B][/QUOTE]

Spanoulis on the Houston Rockets:

2.7 points and 0.9 assists per game

31.9% field goal shooting

:bowdown:

[QUOTE=Nick Young]Tyus Edney, Euroleague champion:bowdown:

Trajan Langdon, Euroleague final 4 MVP:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:roll: who!?

Theres a reason he is a free agent , he isn't that good anymore he's old now .

I am having to agree with Euroleague that the PG position is much more sound in Europe than it is in the NBA. A lot of PG's today are combo guards who can score.

The traditional PG is almost extinct in the NBA and a lot of Euro's are great post players, something that is lost in the NBA.

So it comes as no surprise that European leagues would have true PG that the Lakers would need. Lakers don't need another scoring PG, they need traditional PG's. A good example of a traditional PG is Nash and Rondo and Kidd.

Who the flippity f*ck is Theo Pukeyloukis? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Fiba basketball]Theres a reason he is a free agent , he isn't that good anymore he's old now .[/QUOTE]

Prigioni wasn't good by Euroleague standards 3 years ago. He looks great with the Knicks.

West please.....

In 2001, Prigioni joined the Spanish club Lucentum Alicante, and he played there until 2003. In 2003, Prigioni joined the Euroleague team Saski Baskonia. With Baskonia he won several titles, including: 3 Spanish King's Cups in the years 2004, 2006, 2009, 4 Spanish Supercups in the years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and the Spanish Championship in 2008

:biggums:

According to this, Papaloukas has career averages of 7.2 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 2.4 RPG, and 1.4 SPG in his Euroleague career.

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=ATW[/url]

Scroll down a little bit to see his Euroleague career stats. It's towards the bottom of the page, but it's there in black and white. I'm sure Euroleague will call me a racist liar who doesn't know shit about basketball, but it's right there for everyone to see.

One of the most dominant Euroleague guards ever? The European Magic Johnson? Are you f***ing kidding me?

[QUOTE=kNicKz]In 2001, Prigioni joined the Spanish club Lucentum Alicante, and he played there until 2003. In 2003, Prigioni joined the Euroleague team Saski Baskonia. With Baskonia he won several titles, including: 3 Spanish King's Cups in the years 2004, 2006, 2009, 4 Spanish Supercups in the years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and the Spanish Championship in 2008

:biggums:[/QUOTE]

What the **** does that have to do with the Euroleague?

What the **** does that have to do with the last three years?

Yeah, you definitely are a crackhead.

[QUOTE=KG215]According to this, Papaloukas has career averages of 7.2 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 2.4 RPG, and 1.4 SPG in his Euroleague career.

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=ATW[/url]

Scroll down a little bit to see his Euroleague career stats. It's towards the bottom of the page, but it's there in black and white. I'm sure Euroleague will call me a racist liar who doesn't know shit about basketball, but it's right there for everyone to see.

One of the most dominant Euroleague guards ever? The European Magic Johnson? Are you f***ing kidding me?[/QUOTE]

Yes, he is considered the Magic Johnson of Euroleague. You are a ****ing IDIOT that knows NOTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL.

This has been established ages ago.

Ricky Rubio, who you worship.........got look up his Euroleague numbers you ****ing stupid bastard.

There is something called YouTube.

Use it:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=theo+papaloukas&oq=theo+papaloukas&gs_l=youtube.12..35i39l2.1891.1891.0.2936.1.1.0.0.0.0.110.110.0j1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1._y5snGaBaoA[/url]

My god, the level of ****ing idiocy in this forum is beyond belief. You mofos are beyond pathetic. No way has any of you ever played basketball.

[IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/jdbudget/TheoPapaloukas.png[/IMG]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=ATW[/url]

There, that's what this Theo Papaloukas dude averaged for his career in Euroleague competition. That's what the European Magic Johnson was able to accomplish in his "brilliant" career: [B]7 PPG, 4 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG.[/B]

[QUOTE=KG215][IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/jdbudget/TheoPapaloukas.png[/IMG]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=ATW[/url]

There, that's what this Theo Papaloukas dude averaged for his career in Euroleague competition. That's what the European Magic Johnson was able to accomplish in his "brilliant" career: [B]7 PPG, 4 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG.[/B][/QUOTE]

You are absolutely insane. It turns out that you are actually 100 times a bigger troll than gabepizza.............

It's even beyond pathetic, that you would not even look at a YouTube video, when others probably are.......meaning you can't even grasp what a ****ing fool you look like right now. Damn, you really are the biggest clown of this whole site.
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Never heard of Ukic, never heard of Papaloukas............you are obviously about 12 years old.[/B]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Yes, he is considered the Magic Johnson of Euroleague. You are a ****ing IDIOT that knows NOTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL.

This has been established ages ago.

Ricky Rubio, who you worship.........got look up his Euroleague numbers you ****ing stupid bastard.

My god, the level of ****ing idiocy in this forum is beyond belief. You mofos are beyond pathetic. No way has any of you ever played basketball.[/QUOTE]
I don't worship Ricky Rubio. To be honest I don't give a shit about Ricky Rubio. I just know you blatantly embellish how bad Rubio was in Euroleague to fit your "Euroleague >>>> NBA agenda."

And I did look up Rubio's Euroleague stats. He began his Euroleague career at [B]16[/B] years old. So you'll have to excuse me if I'm not going to get too upset about a f**ing 16 year old not putting up great numbers in that league. His numbers would've been even worse in the NBA at [B]16[/B] years old. Actually, that's not true, because he'd never get a chance to even sniff an NBA roster at 16 or 17 years old.

Papaloukas began his career at 24 years old, and played what was considered his athletic prime in the Euroleague, and peaked as with 10 PPG, 5 APG, and 2 SPG. I will give him credit for his ridiculous 2P FG percentages, though.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]You are absolutely insane. It turns out that you are actually 100 times a bigger troll than gabepizza.............

It's even beyond pathetic, that you would not even look at a YouTube video, when others probably are.......meaning you can't even grasp what a ****ing fool you look like right now. Damn, you really are the biggest clown of this whole site.
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Never heard of Ukic, never heard of Papaloukas............you are obviously about 12 years old.[/B][/QUOTE]
I posted [U][B]facts.[/B][/U] Indisputable, black-and-white, [B][U]facts.[/U][/B] There's absolutely nothing "trollish" about my post. I presented to you [B][U]facts[/U][/B] and you resort to name-calling. I don't need to look at f***ing Youtube highlight videos. You could make almost any professional basketball player in the world, event he scrubbiest of the scrubs, look like a stud in a highlight video.

Please, refute my [U][B]facts[/B][/U] with something other then irrational insults. You say I'm 12 years old and the only way you know how to argue, when someone attempts to engage in a mature argument with you, is with name-calling and insults.

KG215 and gabepizza are the same person.

:lol at this thread
Paplikus, the LA Lakers

[QUOTE=Euroleague]KG215 and gabepizza are the same person.[/QUOTE]
Sure, we're the same person in the sense that we both use things like stats to form our argument. You've yet to tell me why the "European Magic Johnson" who averaged 7-4-2-1 in his Euroleague career is as great as you claim him to be.

I've presented you with facts and all you've done is call me names and sent me a PM saying "you need to stop, you're embarrassing yourself."

The European Magic had a career high of 14 assists? :biggums:

[QUOTE=KG215]Sure, we're the same person in the sense that we both use things like stats to form our argument. You've yet to tell me why the "European Magic Johnson" who averaged 7-4-2-1 in his Euroleague career is as great as you claim him to be.

I've presented you with facts and all you've done is call me names and sent me a PM saying "you need to stop, you're embarrassing yourself."[/QUOTE]

You call "facts" anything that is a bunch of total bullshit. You lie endlessly. You are the same person.

[QUOTE=Noof]The European Magic had a career high of 14 assists? :biggums:[/QUOTE]

The highest total in Euroleague is 15. [B]News flash genius, they count assists differently there.[/B]

Jose Calderon averaged 2.6 assists in his career high in Euroleague. Obviously, if Calderon's career high was 2.6 assists per game, then averaging 4 over a decade would be outstanding. An enormous number. But you people are so ****ing retarded beyond description that you actually act like 4 assists average for a long career is a low number in Euroleague.

When in fact, that's a huge number.


[B]Jose Calderon's career Euroleague assist average = 2.1[/B]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BDG&seasoncode=E2002[/url]

(add the 3 seasons of 2002-03, 2003-04, 2004-05 together)


[B]Jose Calderon's career best Euroleague assist average = 2.6[/B]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BDG&seasoncode=E2004[/url]


[B]Jose Calderon's career NBA assist average = 7.2[/B]

[url]http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2806/jose-calderon[/url]

[B]
Jose Calderon's career best NBA assist average = 8.9 (2 times)[/B]

[url]http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2806/jose-calderon[/url]

[B]
Theo Papaloukas is the career leader in both assists and steals.[/B]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=All&cat=Assistances&agg=Accumulated[/url]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=All&cat=Steals&agg=Accumulated[/url]


Clearly, this thread is full of 10 year olds. Just how ****ing STUPID are you ******s? Do your I.Q.'s even reach into the low 70s? [B]I seriously doubt it.[/B]

So yeah, you colossal ****ing morons, 4 assists average for a career in Euroleague is a ****ing HUGE NUMBER. KG215, you are so stupid it is amazing that your brain can even tell your lungs to breathe in air. You can take your "facts" and shove them up your ass, because you are the biggest ****ing idiot ever in this forum.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Prigioni wasn't good by Euroleague standards 3 years ago. He looks great with the Knicks.[/QUOTE]
Last year Prigioni was a lot better than Papaloukas . Papaloukas should just retire .

[QUOTE=Euroleague]You call "facts" anything that is a bunch of total bullshit. You lie endlessly. You are the same person.[/QUOTE]
How is what I posted bullshit? It's his exact stats that I got from Euroleague.net. I provided a link and a screnshot. Nothing about that is "bullshit." I didn't create a fake Euroleague.net page or a fake stats screenshot. It's all 100% real.