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[QUOTE=RaininThrees]I think these people have always existed, it's just that the internet gives them the power to voice their opinions, and more people to connect to to re-affirm their messed up ideas.
Before the internet you'd have to tune into some late night Sci-Fi channel conspiracy show to get your fix. Now you can log on to any number of websites and get re-affirmation at any moment.[/QUOTE]
This is very true also. But it is revealing that conspiracy theories usually attract the far-left or far-right, and hard economic times often give rise to these movements in themselves. To expand on the point about the internet, the wealth of information is also extremely valuable to conspiracy theorists. As they have mountains of documents to misconstrue, people to misrepresent, statistics to manipulate for their own agenda.
I'll close my thoughts on this matter by uttering some words of wisdom from one of my favorite characters.
"Well, I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie. There is no system, the universe is indifferent." - Don Draper
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seriously, people who believe this are ****ing stupid. first off, with the dark knight conspiracy thing, what would they POSSIBLY gain from putting "Sandy Hook" on a map that nobody was really even able to read? like, what's the purpose? to let the world know what's going to happen? no, because it doesn't explain anything and it's there for like a second in extremely small writing. that and the fact that it's a ****ing BATMAN movie for christ's sake :facepalm
and about the people being actors and the fact that there are pictures of people smiling at the scene as somehow being proof that it's a setup: have you never tried to comfort a child? if so, you'd know the best way to do that is to try to make them smile or laugh, and it's not hard to make a child smile or laugh. and if they WERE actors and it was all a "photo op" like on a "movie set" why in the entire **** would they make them smile? how's that a good photo op for this tragic event? that's nonsensical.
wanna hear a pretty good theory? i ****ed up kid who was extremely shy, a little mentally ill and played too many video games knew his mom had an impressive gun collection and decided to take some of her guns and go on a rampage. UNFORTUNATELY that's not hard to believe. at all.
i know it might be comforting for some of you to believe that there's a reason everything happens but there are some ****ed up people and things just happen
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You conspiracy theorists fascinate me! Really honestly you do. I'd like to maybe write an alternate history book someday exploring conspiracies, their origins, and the mind state of those who push them. Almost like a history of conspiracies, you'd be surprised at how prevalent they have been throughout history, even if the logic is often busted. It's an interesting subject to me.
Add it to my list of great book ideas I will probably never get around to exploring in my life.
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[QUOTE=Quizno]seriously, people who believe this are ****ing stupid. first off, with the dark knight conspiracy thing, what would they POSSIBLY gain from putting "Sandy Hook" on a map that nobody was really even able to read? like, what's the purpose? to let the world know what's going to happen? no, because it doesn't explain anything and it's there for like a second in extremely small writing. that and the fact that it's a ****ing BATMAN movie for christ's sake :facepalm
and about the people being actors and the fact that there are pictures of people smiling at the scene as somehow being proof that it's a setup: have you never tried to comfort a child? if so, you'd know the best way to do that is to try to make them smile or laugh, and it's not hard to make a child smile or laugh. and if they WERE actors and it was all a "photo op" like on a "movie set" why in the entire **** would they make them smile? how's that a good photo op for this tragic event? that's nonsensical.
wanna hear a pretty good theory? i ****ed up kid who was extremely shy, a little mentally ill and played too many video games knew his mom had an impressive gun collection and decided to take some of her guns and go on a rampage. UNFORTUNATELY that's not hard to believe. at all.
i know it might be comforting for some of you to believe that there's a reason everything happens but there are some ****ed up people and things just happen[/QUOTE]
a) Absolutely. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume everyone grieves the same. I have been to two funerals, one very somber for someone I didn't really even know, and one that was quite jovial for a funeral. That one was for my own grandfather who was a beloved man. According to their logic, that one would seem more likely to be a set up? No. That's how we dealt with it.
b) What the f[I]u[/I]ck do video games have to do with anything?
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Do I think it was a hoax? not at all.
Do I think that video of the guy laughing before starting to talk to the camera was weird? Definitely, but it doesn't really prove anything other than it was just weird.
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]"You're a detective now. ... You don't have room to believe in coincidence"[/QUOTE]
I've given out too much rep, but i'll get you tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]Do I think it was a hoax? not at all.
Do I think that video of the guy laughing before starting to talk to the camera was weird? Definitely, but it doesn't really prove anything other than it was just weird.[/QUOTE]
This.
Bizarre stuff. Not saying there is a conspiracy, but seriously, WTF?!
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the guy laughing before starting to talk to the camera :eek: :confusedshrug:
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This is what I get when I google his name....
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these conspiracy theories are lame.
so we were were hit by a false flag attack so Halliburton and other weapons manufacturers could make tons of profit but now we are attacking our own civilians to take weapons that come nowhere close to being as powerful as what they sell our military out of willing buyers hands?
is that it?
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[QUOTE=kentatm]these conspiracy theories are lame.
so we were were hit by a false flag attack so Halliburton and other weapons manufacturers could make tons of profit but now we are attacking our own civilians to take weapons that come nowhere close to being as powerful as what they sell our military out of willing buyers hands?
is that it?[/QUOTE]
Can't have a police state and an armed state at the same time?
If someone can correct me I heard that the department of homeland security purchased 1.6billion rounds of ammo for domestic purposes.. I know someone is going to scream it's for security purposes but that is just frightening.
But you're right about Halliburton.
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[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]Do I think it was a hoax? not at all.
Do I think that video of the guy laughing before starting to talk to the camera was weird? Definitely, but it doesn't really prove anything other than it was just weird.[/QUOTE]
People deal with grief in different ways. He was about to speak in front of about 100 TV reporters being broadcast all over the world. He was probably nervous.
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Piers Morgan will be interviewing another Dad tonight from Sandy Hook. You conspiracy ph@ggots can tune in if you'd like.
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[QUOTE=RaininThrees]People deal with grief in different ways. He was about to speak in front of about 100 TV reporters being broadcast all over the world. He was probably nervous.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it kind of strange to speak to 100 TV reporters immediately after your child is gunned down in school?
and on top of that...
Laugh and Smile.
I couldn't sleep very well last night because of that damn video... I was literally sick to my stomach. Not only because of the video, but because so many people are willing to write this off as "people deal with grief differently".
Yea,... I don't think I'll ever speak of anything conspiracy related again.
Apparently there are two types of people in the world... Conspiracy Nuts & Sheep.
You're either one or the other.
I'll play along and be a sheep...
Probably start a new account here too:
My new name will be Cypher.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7BuQFUhsRM[/url]
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[QUOTE=Riddler]Isn't it kind of strange to speak to 100 TV reporters immediately after your child is gunned down in school?
and on top of that...
Laugh and Smile.
I couldn't sleep very well last night because of that damn video... I was literally sick to my stomach. Not only because of the video, but because so many people are willing to write this off as "people deal with grief differently".
Yea,... I don't think I'll ever speak of anything conspiracy related again.
Apparently there are two types of people in the world... Conspiracy Nuts & Sheep.
You're either one or the other.
I'll play along and be a sheep...
Probably start a new account here too:
My new name will be Cypher.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7BuQFUhsRM[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes, its strange. But people do strange things in moments of high stress, and that doesn't mean he's an actor.
People do stuff like this to dissociate themselves with the grief that their feeling. How many funerals have you been to? Is everyone there acting exactly the same way? Is everyone bawling and crying? The answer is no, they aren't.
I also enjoy that people who don't instantly fall for a conspiracy are 'sheep', as if those who believe such things aren't also following a mob mentality.
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Only one way to find out, dig up the bodies.
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Before seeing this video of him earlier smiling, I figured he was fishy. I said this guy seems strange like he's faking it. After seeing the video I realized it was even more strange. But, were ALL human beings. We ALL cope with shit in different ways. Who are WE to tell others how to act or behave to deal with stress and in grief? We can't.
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[QUOTE=knickballer]I wouldn't doubt that the government is pushing hard for gun control as you can't have a police state with an armed population..[/QUOTE]
Saddam Hussein did pretty well in Iraq despite virtually every house having an AK-47.
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although i saw that robbie parker interview on the day and thought wTF are u even talking to the media? was REALLY weird
put it down to being a typical yank craving attention, even in that circumstance
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The latest conspiracy theory, I see... Can't say I'm surprised.
Conspiracy people, ask yourselves a question... Why, if this whole thing was faked, why would whoever is behind it (the government, I presume) send an actor to speak to the media and act weirdly when it would be completely appropriate and, frankly, expected for the parents not to talk to the media at all following a horrific event like this one? Why not just dodge this potential bullet and even save the hassle of hiring some bad actor when no one even expects this kind of half-assed speech in the first place?
As usual with these concocted theories, it doesn't pass the smell test.
As for the parent, I can't say I'm shocked that such a random tragedy resulted in relatives acting strangely. I doubt the thing had even sunk in on him at this stage of the grieving process. The fact that some people's first reaction to an odd aside in a situation like this one is to conclude the government is the puppet master is far stranger than the way this guy is acting. It can't just be something strange without a deeper meaning.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]The latest conspiracy theory, I see... Can't say I'm surprised.
Conspiracy people, ask yourselves a question... Why, if this whole thing was faked, why would whoever is behind it (the government, I presume) send an actor to speak to the media and act weirdly when it would be completely appropriate and, frankly, expected for the parents not to talk to the media at all following a horrific event like this one? Why not just dodge this potential bullet and even save the hassle of hiring some bad actor when no one even expects this kind of half-assed speech in the first place?
As usual with these concocted theories, it doesn't pass the smell test.
As for the parent, I can't say I'm shocked that such a random tragedy resulted in relatives acting strangely. I doubt the thing had even sunk in on him at this stage of the grieving process. The fact that some people's first reaction to an odd aside in a situation like this one is to conclude the government is the puppet master. It can't just be something strange without a deeper meaning.[/QUOTE]
But, The Dark Knight! And the cars parked funny! And coincidences that require the most complicated, convoluted explanation ever!
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[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]But, The Dark Knight! And the cars parked funny! And coincidences that require the most complicated, convoluted explanation ever![/QUOTE]
And most importantly... This:
[img]http://s2.postimage.org/6u696rjll/20121219184724134.jpg[/img]
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So, what do you wanna say, Riddler?
Those are Devil Horns or whatever, and what does it mean?
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[QUOTE=kaiteng]:rockon:[/QUOTE]
What if I stick my thumb out?
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[IMG]http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/Doomsday2036/Screenshot2012-12-17at73833AM.png[/IMG]
Am I still doing the hand gesture the right way?
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[QUOTE=CeltsGarlic]So, what do you wanna say, Riddler?
Those are Devil Horns or whatever, and what does it mean?[/QUOTE]
Nothing... I just saw somebody post this in another forum.
Thought you guys might like it.
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[QUOTE=CeltsGarlic]So, what do you wanna say, Riddler?
Those are Devil Horns or whatever, and what does it mean?[/QUOTE]
Hook em Horns???
NWO???
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[URL="http://xdisciple.blogspot.ca/2012/08/today-is-1st-of-august-in-year-2012.html"]http://xdisciple.blogspot.ca/2012/08/today-is-1st-of-august-in-year-2012.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]a) Absolutely. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume everyone grieves the same. I have been to two funerals, one very somber for someone I didn't really even know, and one that was quite jovial for a funeral. That one was for my own grandfather who was a beloved man. According to their logic, that one would seem more likely to be a set up? No. That's how we dealt with it.
b) [b]What the f[I]u[/I]ck do video games have to do with anything?[/b][/QUOTE]
all i really meant by that is that the kid probably stayed in too much doing his own thing instead of going out and socializing and making friends
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Oh also, the Denver International Airport is built on top of a secret underground complex from which the Illuminati/Free Masons/NWO/Lizard People (?) rule the world. And there are neat little clues in the murals at the airport! So that people on the internet could figure it out!! Because this sinister organization wants people to know about them?
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SANDY HOOK HOAX
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJLIqdFRHg0&feature=player_detailpage[/url]
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Donation pages of deceased made days before shooting.
[url]http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/01/sandy-hook-ripdonation-webpages-created-before-the-massacre-2555326.html[/url]
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"TAKE THE LIFE OF ADAM"
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PTXGYm02L4&feature=player_detailpage[/url]